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14:00
I'm actually looking forward to Ragnarok. That's impressive, considering the fact that I consider both previous Thor movies to be terrible.
Yeah, it looks great. I liked that there were references for it in the credits of Guardians 2.
I choose to interpret Ragnarok in this context as the end of days of Norse mythology and not some shitty superhero movie.
Most of the MCU movies have been pretty good, with some exceptions.
@mikeTheLiar Yeah, kinda looking forward to that as well.
I loved Doctor Strange
Definitely looking forward to the next time he shows up.
14:03
@Hypersapien I think most of the MCU movies have been ok. Some were pretty good. But the overall MCU project, I think, is impressive, and has a alot of added value to each individual movie.
(Dr. Strange is what I call my penis)
I like fractals so I liked Doctor Strange but I probably would have liked it less if it didn't have fractals so that may say something about the quality of the nonfractal parts of the film
@Kevin That's... accurate.
I nodded off towards the end of the movie. Turns out, I missed the entire Dormommu fight scene.
It's worth seeing.
What's cool is that Cumberbatch did the acting for Dormommu too.
I do enjoy watching Bumbersnatch Cumperdink act like an A-hole though, that's fun for me
Same reason I watch Sherlock
He's really good at that. I wonder how he is IRL, if those roles rub off on him
@Kevin Bumblebee Crumplezone?
SOunds like Bumblebee is Kevins middle name :D
Benadryl Cummerbund
Beezlebub Crumplehorn
14:16
Benebatch Cumberdict
Benedict Cumberbun
Bendydick Thundercum
Blubberbutt Covergirl
Englebert Humperdink
wot
14:22
@KendallFrey how'd you know your mother's nickname for me?
That's her nickname for me too
Y'all are offending my delicate sensibilities
Does any one know how to send hash # symbols (part of a password) in Postman as a parameter?
14:26
@Dave %23
Wait, as a URL parameter?
I finished my concurrent collections study for now
I think so yes... If I want to log in to Jira, I have to send my username and password like data: { "username":"drook", "password":"password#1" },
*In sad Jeb Bush voice*

Please clap.
(this is actually part of hte javascript object
@Nathvi what have You learned?
14:27
@Dave Ah, so it's part of the POST data, not the GET URL.
In that case, # shouldn't be a problem inside strings.
yes, part of post
I think it's an issue with postman though
@ntohl, that everything is terrible and concurrency is there to hit you
when I type in # in the params field (under value), it won't accept any number after
@Nathvi how does concurrent bag work?
@Nathvi amen
so if I type in pass#1, it will only display pass1
14:29
@Nathvi my side project is to implement Conway's game of life in actor model to practice concurrent programming
@Dave Is it possible it's just a display error, but it sends the data properly?
Sadly I don't know... but I can test it! :)
I'm not sure the exact implementation, but I know for functions that rely on aggregate state within ConcurrentBag, it locks a bunch of elements... I think
I think that's true for concurrent bag as well as concurrent dictionary
@Nathvi Generally speaking, it attempts to lock as little as possible.
Right. IF I remember right concurrent dictionary locks all the buckets to get the count
14:32
@Nathvi Yeah, that seems to be the case.
(Just looked)
But otherwise, it locks only the relevant bucket.
right
Which means that a bad hash function can mess up your performance, too.
Oh, theoretically it can have fewer locks than buckets, it seems.
I learned that unless you are doing significant processing, whatever that means, that using concurrent collections can really slow down your code
also, that concurrency will kill you in your sleep, which is why I now have an alarm system
Sure, taking and releasing locks often adds overhead.
also, concurrent collections only offer protection for certain method calls, and don't protect you from race conditions
14:36
If you're doing more than one action that needs to happen in a certain sequence, then no. But that's not how you're supposed to use them.
I have to understand them in order to refactor some code I wrote that I don't understand how its fucking up
If, for instance, I have several threads producing data and pushing them into a single queue for processing, then a ConcurrentQueue is a good tool for me - I don't care about sequence, I just want several producers and/or consumers over a shared queue.
It's not a question of "significant" processing - just concurrent processing.
If you want to consume without polling, use the blockingcollection<T>, right?
Only works for IProducerConsumerCollection<T> implementors
which, Concurrent Q would be
I'm no longer calling it concurrent
It is now, CC
CCQ
see... what else did I learn
14:54
I learned that maybe the real concurrent collection type is the friends we made along the way
15:06
lol
Have a nice evening/day depending on where you are, bye guys!
what is the drama with node.js about?
Greetings everyone
Pray tell, how do I concatenate a variable to a verbatim string literal?
15:17
@"asldkfjasdf" + myVar;
like with +?
like if I have something like this
I built an Xamarin.Forms project. Got it all up and running. Now I bought a macbook air and I'm trying to get the ios project of the xamarin.forms project working. Would anyone be able to help me with jumping through these hoops?
var variable = modelview.units;
string form = @"a whole lotta text +variable+";
15:18
I need to add the variable within the string not outside
like string form = @"a whole lotta text +variable+ more text";
string myVar = "hello";
string form = $@"My String {myVar}";
I didn't know you could use the $ and @ together like that
@Nathvi let me do that
@Nathvi Watch me, @$$
Maybe you could ask it in a question and I could answer it for rep.
;)
15:21
My rep sucks @$$
Your rep ain't the only thing
oooooooooo
Why are we having a conversation about ass :/
because we are all 5
Are we ever not?
15:22
*scratches head
I'm confused, yes?
@gbade_, yes
Is my answer what you were looking for?
Lol, anyway, thanks @Nathvi
@gbade_, post as a question? lol
send the question link here ?
Yes, it was
Nah, your answer was what I was looking for
I mean, can you post your question that you asked here on SO, so I can answer it for shameless points
15:25
Oh. Lol, Okay. I'd do that and send the link.
Do it so I can downvote him.
@mikeTheLiar, don't be an anus.
impossible
I'm not anus, I'm many nus.
Is that seriously a bad question?
15:26
Jeezus, what is the obsession with a posterior?
You must be new here.
!!tell gbade panini
That's the link
Thanks once again
@mikeTheLiar just follow the bot's link - lol, you guys are something else...
What is the technical name for shipping a piece of software? Example, I created software, tested it, etc and it runs etc etc. Now it's time to create an installer and give it to customers etc.
@gbade_, thank you :)
15:32
@HappyCoding shipping
s/pp/tt/
Ok I'll try googling that more
Thank you
@HappyCoding release
tho I more like shipping
@Nathvi are you Hemisphera?
No
I am Nathvi
NH.
NH.
15:35
Okay, this is a very unimportant question, but is it "under the covers" or "under the hood" ?
@gbade_, just be sure to mark my answer as the answer. :)
@Nathvi I just did. Will be allowed to vote in 12 minutes
@NH. Context is extremely important here.
@gbade_, :)
"Under the covers" means "in private, most likely naked and up to something"
"Under the hood" means "hidden to most end users and you shouldn't need to worry about it much"
NH.
NH.
15:38
no keyboard-based autocomplete of handles, arg.
Yes there is.
Tab
NH.
NH.
@mikeTheLiar thanks I feel stupid. and your explanation was what I thought of, but Microsoft's documentation has "under the covers": msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa302290.aspx
which makes me laugh, because all Microsoft's code is in private, and probably naked
*serialization code
Well working with XMLSerializers is something only a dirty, dirty boy would do.
NH.
NH.
well, maybe I have dirty employment then.
but either way, I need to get this to work
and I need to vent once again at how annoying it is to track down the causes of exceptions in MicroSoft's code
note that they themselves admit "This message is annoying at best"
lol
15:48
#Legacy
The Legend Legacy Never Dies.
NH.
NH.
the legacy code never dies? you got that right! I spent 3 years of my professional life coming up with stupid workarounds because of legacy code.
lol
Legacy code only counts as quality If its above 500 lines pet method
Btw #1 trick to make your coding easier:
try {
// all your code here
}
catch (exception ex) {}
NH.
NH.
Also note this statement from that article: "This approach works very well in situations with strongly typed, rigidly structured XML formats that map well to programming objects. If a format is defined by a W3C Schema that consists of complexTypes without mixed content or an excessive use wildcards (xs:any and xs;anyAttribute), then XML serialization is a good approach to process that data." And if they aren't strongly-typed and rigidly structured we should use..........?
16:01
easier for like 20 minutes :D
NH.
NH.
yeah, but you actually need at least a noop with a breakpoint in the exception swallowing block so that you can debug and look at the exception.
No need
Anyways, where has me hearty @mikeTheLiar gone?
why is the mikeTheLiar always gone?
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I'm pretty sure there was a similar article like 2 months ago
Also spat out by mr. Feeds
16:06
I think it was like a week ago
If you actually read the article they talk about it.
NH.
NH.
that article is a pain to read
it is hard to tell which labels go with which dots, and the colors are inconsistently used.
UX nightmare
hey
anyone see your name within this list ??
Ctrl+F only appears to work for what's actually visible in the result set and I ain't looking through 30k results to find myself
hahahahahaha
the list is huge.
16:43
Anyone work with a Database where some tables linked to many other tables through a URN (single field) rather than a FK relationship?
For example: a notes table
ID
URN
NOte

Urn might be UserID:{guid} or AccountID:{Guid} or Document:{guid} (a URN).
ya I have worked on a project like that
@RyanTernier
What are your thoughts, versus traditional related db's?
We have a pretty normalized DB, but when it comes to things like Documents / Notes, it's anoying to have to have 5-10 linking tables for things like "notes/comments"
that was why we used the GUID because the records were so many
they did Title searches
for when you purchase a house
checking the tax/flood/liens data
it was annoying when you had to hunt down something and had to keep that GUID in a notepad to reference
All our ID's are guids - makes live easy
yep was how the code was
once you get use to it, it's not bad
speed wise, we never noticed a slowdown
searching by those in queries, think they were indexed on the weekends
@RoelvanUden you still here?
@SomdipDey you are enjoying that creator
Anyone know why MYSQL sucks on Windows?
16:56
@juanvan I am, buddy!
@SomdipDey you do Database admin stuff?
NH.
NH.
OK, I think I figured it out.
@juanvan by MySql do you mean the workbench sucks?? I agree. But apart from that, MySQL querying is actually faster than MS SQL
NH.
NH.
I think it was due to a MemoryStream being somewhere in the object, and you can't serialize a stream
@juanvan I work for a Startups and small companies, so technically I have to do everything....not just DB administration :P:X
16:58
I have 2 installs one on Centos (5.5) and one on WindowsS12 (5.7)
Ya that is me too every day is startup mode
Centos will insert 1500 tables in 2mins
Windows will insert 1500 tables in 41mins
it's something to do with how windows is treating the program
I have matched configs, I installed 5.5 on windows, all have the same result
The workbench for WindowsS12 runs over a wrapper for windows thats why it seems to run slower
but So Much slower
have you checked how is the RAM usage on Windows and compared it with the CentOS one?
those are Night and Day numbers
the centos server is 1/2 as powerful as the windows box
C: 1.6ghz 4gb
W: 2.6ghz 8gb
I did a centos VM on my machine here with 4gb of ram and it has similar results as the centos box
sometimes if RAM on the Windows is already used by other DB programs such as MS SQL (MS SQL buffer a lot), then the workbench might not have enough RAM for itself to execute stuff faster
17:02
I am using NaviCat to do the imports
hmmmmm
I have an object, lets call it, HardwareController that holds a tcp connection to a hardware device. If I initialize the HardwareController in a console app (create a tcp connection) and send some commands to some hardware, it works fine. However, if I put a while true loop at the end of my app, and then hit the exit button, it crashes. Any ideas?
Driving me CooCoo
I was up till 3am trying to figure it out
b/c I need it to work on the windows box
we do a LOT of full DB refreshes
how about restart the Server, pause all the services running in the background and then try importing again
the VM had nothing running on it
have a server12 vm with the same specs, no roles installed outside the base
17:04
because it is weird that the same operation takes so much time on windows server compared to CentOS. I have only come across such issues where some background programs are slowing down the operations of DB servers
who carries pager?
my one DB has 4500 tables, it will take the Windows box, 280mins to update that is too long
i know restarting your Server might not be an option but worth a try when the server load is not heavy, just in case to be sure
I have to do that all the time for EF to work getting the model changes
holly COW! 280 mins _
17:06
ya it's not going to be a good time
Going to download server 2016 see if that make a difference - tho it probably won't
it won't but still worth a try for the sake of your mind. Its not an issue with the Windows Server OS
17:32
I have this code:
class FilterObject
{
    public enum Operation {
        Equals = 0,
        NotEquals = 1,
        GreaterThan = 2,
        LessThan = 3,
        GreaterThanEq = 4,
        LessThanEq = 5,
        In = 6,
        Between = 7
    };
    public enum Field {
        Name = 0,
        NumberOfEmployees = 1,
        ZipCode = 2,
        Created = 3,
        SSOEnabled = 4
    };
    public List<string> Arguments { get; set; }
}
How do I set the enums?
Assume I'm doing inline addition of FilterObjects to a list, like so:
obj.Add(new FilterObject
{
    // Property assignment to enums here,
    Arguments = arguments
});
I'm trying to set the enums using integer values
NH.
NH.
@Teomanshipahi I used to carry a pager, why do you ask?
@Vap0r ? enum declares a type, if you want a field/property/variable of enumeration type, you need to declare it (like Operation operation; or sth)
user7480455
Hi guys... question about mvc and font sizes. how do you know what font to change if you wantto change the fonts in the visual studio wizard generated forums??
user7480455
I know there is the bootstraps css
user7480455
but I change a font size there it changes on screen but then for some reason it changes back
17:56
@NH. not that much important. I was just curious, if it was declared before you take the job or it might be introduced later on.
But probably it strictly depends on company policy
user7480455
using the browse's f12 option I can see a font size... does the wizard css override changes when you compile?
ok, another one for you guys
enjoy comparing yourself....or others
I feel like such a douchebag
data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/716207/… : Find A Stack Overflow User's (with user-links) Score For One Particular Tag - Globally
18:15
Admiral Douche
;-)
@juanvan That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: )
we got a new bot humm
; h
@juanvan That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: π, ), (
lol ok done with that
@juanvan That didn't make much sense. Maybe you mean: kek, lel, lulz, (.Y.)
18:17
(.Y.)
!!tell juan lenny
@juan ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
!!(.Y.)
@KendallFrey That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
18:18
bummer
there a way to add an extension to a RouteDictionary?
; (.Y.)
@juanvan That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
What do you want it to do?
user7480455
hey juanvan are you knowledgeable on the css and the bootstraps I am just looking to get pointed in the right direction
for SEO reasons the urls have to end with html
18:19
blinks wut
Aren't search engines smarter than that now?
@juanvan Says who?
Who told you that?
says the SEO guy
Fire him.
Like, right now.
Don't wait.
18:20
Do It Now!
And when I say "fire" I mean "light this asshole on fire because he's taking you for a ride"
Has the SEO guy learned anything new at all about his line of work in the past 10 years?
most of his sites get ranked first in 2-3 months or less pending
10 years is effectively forever in SEO
Not because of the file extension they don't.
18:21
http://oempartzone.com/Yamaha/Part/5BE-12241-00-00/GUIDE%20STOPPER%202
The page works but he wants the search result to have .html at the end
10 years? That's impossible, no one was alive back then!
Oh WTH am I thinking
I think the current common wisdom is that you don't want file extensions at all.
ya that page does not matter - the description is a filler, it does nothing for the page
I just added it
maybe..
@mikeTheLiar 007 was. He's older than God.
18:23
yep it works
I could say
http://oempartzone.com/Yamaha/Part/5BE-12241-00-00/failsafeisonaboat.html
@milleniumbug yeah I ended up getting confused by documentation but implementation cleared that all up
@KendallFrey are we entirely sure that he's not God?
@007 do you like skeeball?
@mikeTheLiar Are you kidding me?
I'm just sayin.
Have you seen Dogma?
No. Should I?
18:30
Yes.
Do you like Kevin Smith?
Jay and Silent Bob if you don't know who that is
@mikeTheLiar I don't know who any of those are
Oh Clerks
Heard of that a few times
user7480455
19:00
I don;t know what skeeball is
Skeeball
user7480455
oh my...
user7480455
no I have never used that contraption before... but I do recall seeing them at the coin ups
user7480455
you pass a bowling ball into the center...
Does this look like a CSS room
19:09
What tab are you on in the dev tools?
user7480455
oh there is a room
user7480455
sorry
Are you trying to edit the css?
@milleniumbug read this in Samuel L Jackson's voice
WHAT. DOES. C# CHAT. LOOK LIKE!?
@mikeTheLiar :D
user7480455
19:14
yeah I posted my question in that other room I did not realize that there was a room for that
user7480455
yes hyper I was trying to edit the bootstraping file
user7480455
yeah its very odd
user7480455
I am no fan of the style sheets
@mikeTheLiar Now that was a Great Gif
user7480455
19:21
back in '74 I use to play Jai alai... but stop after a near death mishap
Why don't you like CSS?
What would you rather use?
Black and White
Down with the Colors!!
Jai alai. That's the game they based the ball game from Tron off of.
90s chic?
user7480455
19:40
It a very old game
user7480455
I don;t like style sheets because they don;t make any sense... they are way too complex
user7480455
I know people don't like inline styles
user7480455
but so many lines
user7480455
its just overwhelming as they say
I there!
19:44
Inline styles make things even more complex. You're throwing style and structure into the same file.
I'm new to entity framework and I'm trying to wrap my head around row-level security for multi-tenant database (docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/app-service-web/…)
Separate CSS files are simpler because if you have the same style that needs to be done in multiple places, you only have to define it once. Change it there and it changes everywhere. Just give it a label.
user7480455
Yes I know the concept it maybe the way visual studio;s wizards make them that makes it a real horror show
Does someone of you knows if the "UserId" column need to be added in each table of the database?
Oh god. Wizards? Never touch them.
user7480455
19:46
I think if this was a user made file it would bake more sense
user7480455
ahh ok
Most likely
user7480455
I just read a post that writes... add a style.css import this file adter the bootstrap.css
user7480455
I am trying to understand their meaning of import after bootstrap.css
import, as in, add to the page
after means, after
add the style.css crap after you add the bootstrap.css crap

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