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22:00
The actual reason, I expect, is that they don't understand TPL
cant you just tell them that if they have 2k requests at one time it fucks up?
just because of this
and then you have other cases like this and it fucks up at around 500?
i did a presentation / dev meeting on tpl and async await a few months ago to bring people up to speed, 3 people showed up
resume up
i complained, now more people are showing up to the dev meetings, but still, if they don't understand it, thats on them, i gave them the opportunity
nah, this place i'm working at is awesome, i'm learning so much
I am just kidding
one day you'll be senior and it'll all be TPL
22:01
lol
and you'll refuse to listen about the new tech
!!google NFR
non functional something
I'm pretty sure it's not that.
22:02
idk
lol
Non-Functional Requirement
Performance, prettiness, etc.
i know nothing about NFR's and current requests
i looked into how many times it'll get hit a day roughly, and looked at our default threadpool count, and i'm pretty positive we'd be alright without async await, but, things like httpclient don't even offer a synchronous method, so then you're stuck trying to prevent it from spreading, and it'd just be 1000x easier to do it now than when the solution grows into a behemoth
I wonder if you can prove that thread handling would be much more difficult
Does .NET have anything similar to Jazelle?
+ when you start 1 thread to do something, the next time somebody comes in and has to do some work... what do they do? They look at how things are currently implemented and mimic it... so, 1 turns into 2, 2 turns into 10
etc
22:06
> Why do we leave material out of classes and then fail students who can’t figure out that material for themselves? Why do we make the first couple years of an engineering major some kind of hazing ritual, instead of simply teaching people what they need to know to be good engineers? For all the high-level talk about how we need to plug the leaks in our STEM education pipeline, not only are we not plugging the holes, we’re proud of how fast the pipeline is leaking.
Mike. Drop.
poor mike
by the way @SteveG I do believe async/await is making threads at some points if its too much to handle for a single thread
so instead of having 10 threads you'll have 5
theoretically speaking
nah, depends on your type of application
that is true
22:08
web api / mvc sync context runs the continuation on the same thread
Which is just as goddamn well
Otherwise it would be weird
oops.
yeah lol
your shanking spear seems to have a bug
well...
out of like, 6 months of trying to say something funny, i finally did and i get crickets, what the f.
22:10
apparently there is a bouldering wall hidden somewhere in my building
a coworker just went to show it to me... I did a route and one of the bolts was loose. I tightened it aaaaand... ^
haha aww
thats a business expense, be sure to write that off ;)
lol
I'm pretty sure I can get a free replacement
@Codeman Are you sure it was loose? The photo would indicate otherwise.
@KendallFrey screw you :)
well... it's not loose any more
unlike your mother.
22:14
hahahaha ohhhhh
ohhh snaaaap yaaaawn
@R593B lmao
jesus christ
22:16
you snapped pliers
where? I've heard they've been looking for him for a while now.
@TomW I am stronk
leatherman, too, lol. Not cheap
yeah those are nice
gerbers too
yeah, this is a skeletool
they have a punch for explosives so you can jam in the firing cap
22:18
you're a skeletool
<3
@Codeman you could have loosened it, taken it, and started to leave while saying "sorry, I gotta bolt!"
I have a Leatherman. Nice tool.
@MikeAsdf lolz
test? is my internet down?
22:19
@TomW yeah, I've had multiple throughout the years. Best every day carry there is
@SteveG yes
@SteveG that's for explosives technicians, lol
lol yea
also, I borrowed a Nexus 6P from our vending machine. Super nice so far
22:20
you did what
smart phone vending machines
lol
@SteveG there's a bunch of device vending machines around campus
thats crazy
> Question: Where is the Flugelhorn?
Answer: Right in between the warp drive and the creme brulee torch.
they have stuff like Acer Iconias, iPhone 6s, Lumia 950s, Nexus 6Ps
you buy them or borrow them?
22:21
also microcontrollers and random cords and cables
you can borrow them for a week or so
thats really cool
yeah
also did I mention they have a freaking bouldering wall in my building? lol
what is a bouldering wall, like bulging out?
> 3.0 out of 5 starsChanged my life
By Kristi on May 27, 2014
Received this knife as a gift for my 18th birthday. Wish I'd have known what it was because as soon as I touched it, I grew a mustache and became a Navy Seal. Mom fainted and my dad laughed and handed me a beer. I was born a girl.

Minus 2 stars because my breasts were really nice.
god, vanilla Android is so much better than HTC Sense UI
22:23
@TomW lmao
@SteveG like a climbing gym wall
gooodddd that sounds awesome
it's right next to the latte machine
free latte too?
life is hard
22:29
if i ever become homeless, i'm going to be homeless on MS campuses
well... the coffee was better at SBUX when I was there... but the work sucked :P
@SteveG you need a badge to get into any of the buildings :P
meh, i'll just let somebody else go first and open the door for me
god, way to try to shatter my hopes and dreams
what a dick
just copy someone's badge with an RFID scanner concealed on your person
activated by a hug
im bored, i need to find a life
@SteveG - Just make sure to enumerate the results.
22:42
hey again
ran into a null terminator pretty quickly
@SteveG - Sounds like you need to populate the dataset.
anyone want to help me with an SQLite question? Even a lil bit?
maybe, whats the questin
@SteveG - Ever look at meetup.com in your area?
22:43
yea, i never get responses lol
well, not that one specifically, but others
www.meetup.com
Responses? No it isn't for dates it is for events.
So I've attached a DB to a solution..it copies over the database fine all good..

But the results returned from a Select *
return null results
@SteveG Just like me when I do first aid
@TravisJ oh lmao
@BrianJ define "null results"
22:45
So my question is what is the reason for the result being null? Although I can see the data on the DB is there
I'll post a lil screenshot
Empty result set? Null values for all columns?
@SteveG - They post public events you can go to. Just find something interesting there is a lot of stuff on there. Good way to make friends and find people to have fun with.
i'll check it out, thanks man
they have a bunch of outdoorsy stuff, which is cool
@MikeAsdf
I posted a question earlier which will give more context on the mappings
@BrianJ looks like you have null values in columns in the DB
22:47
I've dealt with a variety of SQLite gotchas over the past year, but this is weird.
@ReedCopsey It seems like that but I can see in the db browser that it's not null
is it a simple "select * from someshittytable"?
*they're not null
im doing my first sqlite db in android, i haven't run a bit of code yet but have written quite a bit to manage it, excited to see why it fails
Are the record counts the same?
22:49
Are you getting an expected number of objects with null properties?
@MikeAsdf yeah it's just a Select *
like this:
List<ZoneInfo> zoneInfo = dbConn.Query<ZoneInfo>("select * from " + tableName).ToList<ZoneInfo>();
                ObservableCollection<ZoneInfo> zoneInfoCollection = new ObservableCollection<ZoneInfo>(zoneInfo);
why do you have an extra record?
5 in the browser, 6 while debugging?
are you sure tableName is correct?
ie: that it's "DublinCityCouncilTable" without spelling/punc errors?
I'm getting the expected number of records yes.
I'm not sure where the extra records is coming from though
that pair of sentences is oxymoronic
22:51
lol
lol
Totally contradicted myself there
anyways the table name is as follows, which is the same as the table name in the db
@MikeAsdf we use smartcards, not RFID. RFID is incredibly insecure :P
unless this is leaving like a trailing space or something?
"select * from " + tableName
I assume this is EF stuff? no IDataReader usage to debug?
subway jipped me 1 piece of ham on my sub, i'm a little upset by this
22:55
@MikeAsdf nope not EF, I'm just mapping the results to a POCO like in other examples I've seen
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Q: How to correct database field mappings in SQLite?

Brian JI've attached an SQLite database to my Windows Phone 8.1 project. The connection is working but the results returned from the database are null. Previously I posted a question on the null bindings of my query. But the answer suggested hasn't resolved the issue of a null result being returned, wh...

How are the column results being copied into properties?
this line
dbConn.Query<ZoneInfo>("select * from " + tableName).ToList<ZoneInfo>();
the SQLite class handles the mappings
also sweet lord, why do you have a DublinCityCouncilTable as a table name? Just call it City
Because I have multiple cities
I'm not familiar with that SQLite library I guess
22:58
but yeah I could have a better naming convention @Codeman
DublinCity2k15Table a better name?
Having "Table" in a table name is an affront to the Lord.
yeah I guess
bless me SQLLord for I have sinned
23:00
so where's the documentation for this SQLite library
looking for the docs
@SteveG Ain't nobody got time fo dat
haha
you've been quiet lately
are our mother jokes finally getting to you?
@BrianJ what namespace is the Column attribute in?
aka ColumnAttribute
23:06
be funnier
i can't, i'm an engineer
@MikeAsdf where is the ColumnAttribute?
@BrianJ you should have a CityCouncil table with a CityName foreign key to a City table
@BrianJ on your ZoneInfo
@SteveG good one
23:07
you should pretty much never have more than one adjective in a table name, and also pretty much never have proper nouns or numbers
@KendallFrey way to be a d
I do it well
yes you do
Also I just noticed the primary key is a string.
triggered
@Codeman good point, didn't think of that
23:08
it's a sqlite db, i doubt he's storing anything where a string key would make a diff
I guess performance isn't too much of a worry, yeah. There's still case sensitivity to possibly be concerned about.
it's called a natural key
@MikeAsdf does SQLite support collations?
@MikeAsdf you mean the collum attribute over each mapping prop?
[Column("tariff_ph")]
public float TariffPH { get; set; }
ewww
Only ordinal and simple latin-ascii-case-insensitive IIRC
23:10
why double the work
@BrianJ yes, what namespace has that?
The ns is SQLite.CollumnAttribute
@MikeAsdf
well the only documentation I can find isn't helpful: rbdocumentation.com/html/…
If your SQLiteConnection lets you CreateCommand and ExecuteQuery on that command, I'd maybe try debugging things that way. Just to confirm at a lower level that things are fucked up.
Also, you might be able to get a column list of the result set from that
I've seen before where SQLite was putting superfluous table alias prefixes on column names when selecting from a view
23:15
I'll try debugging the SQLite.cs class again that handles the query..but it scares me
:P
doing all kinds of funky shiz in there
when I step into "dbConn.Query<ZoneInfo>"
it should give me some sort if gleaning
if that's a word
ok so first thing I got from stepping into that class..the query
"select * from DublinCityCouncilTable"
ah, so the source of that is copied here? github.com/BrianJVarley/Parking-Tag-Sms-Sender/blob/master/…
so it goes right into SQLiteCommand.ExecuteQuery<T>
Yeah It's going into create new command when I step in
correct that's my repo above ^^
I'm stepping through the table mappings code now..
There definitely seems to be an issue with the collum mappings when I step through
Just not sure exactly what yet
is TableMapping.Columns empty when the TableMapping constructor is done?
The constructor seems to be where it reflects on the attributes you specified in ZoneInfo model
checking that now
there's also a TableMapping.FindColumn method I'd put a breakpoint in.
if that's returning null, then there's almost definitely a problem with the setup done by the TableMapping constructor
23:27
it seems to be mapping okay so far
I'm going down through the mappings here and they all seem to be mapping fine
so ExecuteDeferredQuery is where it makes use of that TableMapping
line 2051: map.FindColumn(name);
ok gonna have to get some sleep, I'll attack this tomorrow
thanks for the helpful tips Mike
Then later, as it's iterating over the reader, is where it calls ReadCol to actually read the "cell"
hopefully the Stackoverflow fairy will have some suggestions on my question

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