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12:01
so, how do I add the reference of that toolkit in my WPF application. its not displaying in Add Reference Dialog->.NET Assembly /COM.
you don't need to use a MVVM framework. you can do it by hand. you implement INotifyPropertyChanged
on your view models
even after you successfully install/add reference, it doesn't just "work"
you have to know whats going on
12:21
in HTML / CSS / WebDesign, 7 mins ago, by Feeds
posted on February 16, 2015 by snoofle

SharePoint. What can you say about it? Among other things, it's designed to help you manage and present content. It's supposed to make things easy for you. If you want some customization, just write some code to do whatever and configure it to run at the appropriate time for the appropriate page(s). Of course, this leaves open the possibility that folks who may be something less than experts

I don't even ..
12:38
Hu guys
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Q: Detecting BPM in a Windows Phone 8.1 Application

Hi i'm RedaI'm here to hopefully get an answer/suggestion/help for this problem, I've been searching the entire week-end to find a solution, Yes I found some, but none really cover my needs, So let's get started. Some background: I'm in my 3rd year, I study computer science and in my free time I develop t...

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@Redaa Why do you have multiple accounts?
It's not mine
> Hi i'm Reda
sure looks like it
12:40
yes me and my friend have the same name
Kendall any suggestions about this ?
Either way, the question is off-topic for Stack Overflow
Oh, why ?
Where should I post it ?
> Questions asking us to recommend or find a book, tool, software library, tutorial or other off-site resource are off-topic for Stack Overflow as they tend to attract opinionated answers and spam. Instead, describe the problem and what has been done so far to solve it.
12:43
@Redaa I thought it was your friend posting it?
No it's me
nvm
@KendallFrey True detective work today!
But I need help people , can you Imagine yourself stuck with something all the week-end , I'll kill someone to make it work :D
@Redaa Yeah, that's called programming. Especially on windows phone ..
12:45
@BenjaminDiele speaking of detective work, one of my coworkers is currently lurking in this chat
@FrendallKey No problem
lol
It's odd seeing the same code in here and in VS
Okey, so i should delete the project I'm working on right now I guess
@Redaa You answered your own question.
"Third party libraries don't support WP..."
Make them support it, or build your own solution.
@Sippy I was just trying to convince my colleague the other day that competent devs who don't know XML exist :)
Not that I'm saying you're competent.
12:50
Lol
@TomW That's... rare.
TY TOM
@Sippy btw if it's T-SQL, FOR XML AUTO is what you need. 1-step solution.
I knew it existed, I have just never had any need to use it
It is T-SQL
I was parsing XML on Saturday
fml
12:51
But the XML structure I have to use is quite specific (n)
@Sippy XSLT, take what the database produces and run it through an XSL transform to your desired format
@RoelvanUden There are many apps in the windows store that do the same thing : bpm detection or visualization, do you think they all created their on solution to do this on Windows Phone ?
@TomW I will pretend I know what that means.
Google time!
Could get it done in about 10-15 lines of powershell IMHO.
Lel then I'd have to learn powershell as well
12:52
Or a C# console application, whatever
This is for an automated task btw
Was thinking I'd just get a windows service running to do it
executing SQL commands and transforming XML with XSLT are probably both pretty common tasks in powershell so samples should be easy to come by. It can call into .NET libs directly so the syntax is slightly different but it's fundamentally the same stuff
Ah cool
Could run that as a scheduled task, or yeah write a service, that would work. Is it something that needs to be done periodically?
Yeah once a day
12:55
Could implement directly in the database with a sql server scheduled job
;o
That'd be awesome
and for xml is fairly configurable so you might not even need an intermediate step
@Redaa Pretty sure there is a library you can use. Why not compile it yourself for WP?
@RoelvanUden I don't know how to ? I'm a beginner :/
12:57
So basically I need to compile a library that is doing this to work in WP ?
@Sippy and finally, there are several ways to write to a file directly from T-SQL :)
I assume it was a file output you wanted
Yap
I have so much to learn ;o
Fewer moving parts the better imho
Aye
@Redaa Or find one that already works. There is a lot of open source code out there; make use of it and streamline a library that works for you. I did the same thing years ago when HtmlAgilityPack didn't work on WP, I grabbed the code, removed the shit that I didn't need and wouldn't work on WP and off I went.
12:58
Would the solution you have in mind be transferrable to other projects of similar nature?
My thoughts on the windows service were to make it stand on its own
As the people we send this info to have a specific structure I figured if I made something that you throw a database at and it spits an XML file back would be pretty decent
RoelvanUden , HtmlAgilityPack I think it's more easy to do so, You imagine the code behind beat detection ? uuhhh
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@Sippy I would imagine you'd have basically a single .sql file, possibly parameterised, that would set up everything, that you'd just run against your database server. Obviously for different databases and different output schemas the query would be different
@TomW Hmm
That's true
@Redaa It's just DSP.
Nothing special about it.
13:02
thinking about it a standalone service wouldn't work anyway
@Sippy if you're integrating against a third-party system I do recommend committing some uninterrupted time to reading the XML spec thoroughly. There is nothing more annoying to devs who do know XML than to be given XML that is invalid by devs who don't
Cos the database is weird.
@TomW Yeah I've spent the last 5 hours reading it lol
And run your output through a validator
I think I know what they want now.
They given you a schema?
13:02
Alright am going in , wish me luck :) thanks @RoelvanUden
Sorta yeah
Good luck. :-)
@Sippy....sorta? They either have or they haven't
They have
It can be a really bad schema
13:03
I have a regex that matches valid XML and doesn't match invalid XML
Lots of explanation text in it
That's nice of them
• Attribute Name= "FirstName" type="xs:string" use="required"
o The customer’s first name
I had to read the spec for that
Like that
13:03
@KendallFrey Do you have one for HTML too :D
@RoelvanUden I have one for XHTML
@KendallFrey valid or well-formed?
@TomW Valid XML, not necessarily valid data
I dunno why this document is classified as strictly confidential
@RoelvanUden I didn't feel like putting in the effort for figuring out stuff like unclosed tags
I wonder if it's possible to generate a regex from a grammar
13:07
@Sippy you're skirting the edges of what's called Integration here. The whole discipline of munging data between different systems that have no knowledge of each other is pretty huge
@TomW Aye
I've done JSON stuff before
Just never XML
At the top end of that space you have BizTalk
Where you need a platform which can do absolutely anything. As a consequence it is a monstrosity
Haha
Oh so this isn't a huge amount of T-SQL*
:P
FOR XML EXPLICIT <- specify the exact structure you want for the output
first pass would be AUTO I reckon just to see what you're working with
Sure
^LOL
rekt
gosh darn it
It's nice and rainy in England today ..
Only in England can a day be "nice and rainy"
Hehehe
13:16
@Sippy Don't they just call that "weather"?
Yesterday the windchill was apparently below -40
jeebus
@KendallFrey I dislike it when the windchill is +5 :/
I dislike wind, really.
I dislike outdoors in general
Does not want to leave house -> Has party as his place
^ me yesterday
I think there are a bunch of girls still sleeping downstairs
unrelated though :P
Fresh and sunny here.
why does that sound like an ad for orange juice
Canadian problems: Look outside -> blind
13:49
@Steve
@KendallFrey
i made my own egg mc muffin
I made myself an omelette the other day
Turns out I make a good omelette
good :)
I want to write some REBEL, ideas pls
@Steve
@KendallFrey CMS!
13:53
@Sippy
Rewrite KSP!
nothing more than a weekend project pls
uh
@KendallFrey Did you mean REBOL?
then wtf is rebel
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Currency converters seem to be all the rage for weekend projects.
Unless you wanna do something that's not ultra boring.
yes pls
also, rebel is horrible at math, so no numbery things
lol
lets make an android app
@Steve it's not funny, you should see the code for incrementing an integer
Hello All
13:57
@KendallFrey Because you're a master
All of those :D
1 weekend
@KendallFrey you should take a compiler construction course
because i think you'd like it
Can anyone tell me if async can cause issue with session conflict
I tried learning executable binary formats
I don't think I'd like it
interpreters are elegant
@Neha No
You need to actually tell us what you're talking about
13:59
yeah
i think you would, lol
maybe if I compiled to asm
@KendallFrey Actually Whenever am trying to create a new account for my user from two different system simultaneously. I was getting conflicts. My details show to other and other to me.
@Sippy 5 is already done, except for the actual game part
Lol
@KendallFrey user account create uses a method from application manager called async.
14:01
I realized that there's no point to not collecting all items
so the drop command is useless
@Neha a race condition could be the problem then
overcast
@KendallFrey yeah, I understand this but how then I get out of it
i have a case of the mondays, not the normal mondays, the mondays where i'm like wtf am i doing with my life so i come in here and act retarded
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@Neha Do you expect me to know?
14:04
@KendallFrey Don't you :p
@Neha I can't magically debug code that I've never seen, what do you think I am?
lol, one good thing about REBEL is that the phrase (.)(.) occurs much more often than in other langauges
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/(.)(.)(?=.*;.*\2.*\1)/$2$1
lmao
wrote that this morning
nothing for this, am trying to debug the code but I can't be able to produce this to my local server
am just trying to identify which code may cause this issue
@Steve Isn't that every day? :/
14:08
lol
@KendallFrey That makes your language better than all others instantly. :D
learn it nao
@Steve JK STEVE
LOVE YOU STEVE
I mean what
:D
gave myself a papercut with a sushi knife the other day
it itches, bad
im shutting up
sushi is cut with paper?
14:18
@Steve wat even r u
i am a banana
(@KendallFrey)
your spoon is too big, my anus is bleeding
@KendallFrey I thought your co-worker was lurking here? :D
sweet, sweet, juxtaposition
@kendall really?
14:20
@BenjaminDiele lol
he posted a question earlier
I doubt he's still on his computer
@KendallFrey nice
@KendallFrey what kind of phone do you have?
BlackBerry
i hope you're kidding
lol
I'm not
It was free
14:29
why?
oh
I want to upgrade soon
iphone
Least hassle
to a flipphone?
I don't like any smartphones but iphones break less.
Read the reviews for Ubuntu Phone, think I'm going to go Samsung lol
14:30
Samsung r bad
lol no they're not
ur fac r bad
ye dey r
Every samsung I've ever had was shit
Slowed down to laggy piece of crap after 2 months
Girlfriend has one
my s4 is the nicest phone i've ever had
Same problem
14:30
Every iPhone I've ever had gave me cancer
I refuse to give Apple Corp. my money
@Sippy Hah! You've obviously never had a Lumia
@KendallFrey when you get your samsung you want to do some android apps together?
My dad has one and he hates it
I dislike android in general
I dislike ios as well
I dislike smartphones, they're all shit.
I got a Lumia 620 which bounced off the stairs more times than I can count
@Steve nu
14:31
ok
@RoelvanUden my blackberry is beat to shit, it's got a corner missing and scratches all over
blackberries are the best smartphone for durability
(except maybe the new ones)
thats because they have the functionality of a rock
Might be, but I'm not complaining about Lumias. They are as solid as Captain Americas shield.
@Steve what phone should i get
well, samsung rocks, but they're not pushing the phone market as much anymore as it's so saturated
so i'm not sure for how long their phones will rock
14:34
i mean specifically which
i'm going with the next galaxy
but i'm getting into android development, you aren't interested in mobile development, so does it really matter?
debating whether I want a phablet Note
I probably won't play much games anyway
if you get a phone with an IR blaster though, you can use it as a remote control :D
for what
Get a Windows Phone ;-)
14:37
my computer doesn't have a IR receiver
@RoelvanUden convince me
I need to get a large but cheap droid tablet to use as a chartplotter on the water this year
Installed Lollipop this morning, Facebook has gone to shit
messenger now so slow it's unusable
@KendallFrey It's not iOS. It doesn't need top of the line hardware to run semi-decently. They are durable. The budget ones (mine is less than 100 euro) are fine. No fragmentation with 10k versions. Simple file access, no external dependencies like iOS shit-cloud or Android shit access. Windows 10. :-)
does sony make good phones? The Xperia sounds nice
(And it serves as excellent offline navigation beast)
Did I kill the room or what?
14:46
you killed it with your phone
Anyone hosting their own CDN for internal web apps?

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