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04:39
@LewsTherin @girl y'all around? quick GIS question
oh what's hername
redneck
@JLott ^
 
6 hours later…
10:52
Hello
Hey @codebrain
I saw on fb that yesterday was your birthday.. Is that right ?
@CCInc lol
@AndréSilva Yes Sir !
Congrats man
Thanks man, It was a good day.
Got any goods ?
10:57
Nope. I dont buy anything for a birthday. I was visiting friends and places.
Rock beach, Maamallapuram..
I... I can't see imgur from work :(
Thats poor.
11:01
Thats okay :)
Now, I want to ask a question related to pricing our work to clients.
Do you ever had that information in your hands before?:
If not, be prepared to get angry.
I am confused :P
Ah, you want to ask here? ._.
I am working on a startup web development company with a designer.
you know few guys in here have their own 'Private' Clients and companies.
There are some freelancers in here for sure.
11:05
yeah, I can be sure of the prices. but i want to know more on what basis the charges should be, maintenance charge, Invoice management , handling Client Requirements..
But the usual charge price people make for projects is, get your common hour pay + your coworker hour pay divide the sum by two, count the time you'll take to complete your project and add 5% to 10% in hours.
that 5-10% will cover up the hosting charges ? Cz i need to maintain the sites on a Shared hosting/VPS.
Ah, you're providing services not projects.
In India people are not paid in hours. They are paid some negotiated salary monthly. They dont talk "How much do you charge for an hour ? "
Yes, Service Too.
How many working hours do you have per day ?
Like, in Brazil we have 40 min and 44 max per week.
11:08
8
So it is the same
So in a month if you get 1k$
40-50 weeks per hour here
You make 4$ hour
11:09
yeah i can calculate for an hour..
I'd charge the sum of everyone involved divided by two and 10% to 15% per month ( count as maintenance )
But that depends the size and the requirements of the project
If you see you don't have much profit, you can charge more, but don't overcome 30%
so when i talk to client i can say the price until my work gets done. I thought i would quote approx 80$ excluding hosing
But check with the other dudes here, I'm not an expert in freelance.
yeah. I would keep that under 30.
yep i will check the other dudes.
Be right back, need to talk to some managers
11:14
go on ! Appraisal time.
 
1 hour later…
12:15
An hour with no comments? Wtf guys.
You're all playing with "You Need a Budget" aren't you?
Huh
Hey
Sorry, didn't mean to wake you.
Yeah thats okay, I wasnt sleeping.
Ugh. I'm not looking forward to the UI layer of this project.
Thanks for reminding me, Obama.
@Billdr Everyone in serious-mode.
Or lazy monday mode.
12:23
@Billdr Me neither. I just wanted to know the latest tools or whatever good there is might be helpful
@codebrain Go with bootstrap, really, it can't get easier than that.
Everyone seems to use bootstrap
It's easy, powerful, looks great out of the box, and is easily adjusted. That's why?
@RoelvanUden yes , wherever we go, ending up with bootstrap :P
Are any of you AC repairmen? I'm sticking to my chair. :(
12:34
@Billdr Don't sit :P
hey...does someone know a website where I can buy posters (as in pictures you put on your wall) about .NET (for example API reference) or a list of commands for bash/shell or anything like that? I googled a few times now but I only get stuff like 'new things in .NET 4' (which would be nice if it was for .NET 4.5).
13:00
@SteffenWinkler quicklycode.com ?
@KendallFrey yeah, nice :) thanks.
Now...where do I get a D/A converter for that?
digital/analog
aka someone who can print that stuff on poster material stuff
I guess a common copy shop won't do that...
like, vector fonts?
or whats the problem
no, like printing it.
13:05
Print shops around just print whatever you want here.
changing it from digital (internet, in this case) to analog (reallife)
i dont get what digital to analog has to do with it
Are you referring to a printer?
yes
it was a joke :/
13:06
It's Monday morning. Please don't say anything that requires cognitive processing.
TBA
TBA
Hi anyone plz help me with validation...
Hey everyone
just a basic socket question which happens to be done in C#
Hi @TBA plz help me with your question...
TBA
TBA
Thanks @ke
What is it called when you listen for a connection request but at the same time attempt a connection request elsewhere from the same code? I need to know what to google
13:08
@Chucky Sounds like using multiple ports
@Chucky Non-blocking.. or threading.. ? Is that what you are after?
TBA
TBA
@KendallFrey I have an MVC application, where I have given validation from Model. Now the problem is that I have two buttons, One Save and one Draft. For Save Button I need to validate all the controlls. However in Draft if no value in the fields I need to validate only one field that is Title. If other field the user enters any value need to check the usual validation like Reg ex and all.
@RoelvanUden I think threading. Basically I need two way communication between a program, and for multiple connections (1-3 at a time)
@TBA Sounds like you should have a bool field called Draft, and do validation based on that.
@Chucky Both will work then. Threading is easier.
13:12
So I should google two way socket connection using threading?
@TBA MVC has a valid/invalid state for the model instance in the controller action parameters. Then like @Kendall mentioned, when it is not a draft, check if the state is valid. Is that not enough?
i wanna to be strong in C# so please tell me which topics i have to study deeply
TBA
TBA
@Kendall @RoelvanUden Thanks that's exactly I was looking for. How exactly I should implement it. Currently I am trying to disable all fields in draft button click by this. $("#keywordId").attr("disableValidation", "true"); if($("#keywordId").val().trim()!="")
{
$("#keywordId").removeAttr("disableValidation");
} Looks like it is not doing anything.
@AzadChouhan Object Oriented principals for a start
@TBA Never ever rely on JS code for server operations
@TBA You can give a value to each submit button (draft/send?) and check which value is present in the post parameters..
TBA
TBA
13:18
@RoelvanUden but I would be needing this client side validation. Instead of server side.
@AzadChouhan Um, how about C#?
@KendallFrey hmm, do you know more sites like that? Or how did you find that one? (quicklycode)
I AM ASKING ABOUT C# NOT C @KendallFrey :p
@AzadChouhan What? I didn't say anything about C.
@SteffenWinkler I googled 'programming cheat sheets posters'
YAA I KNOW I AM SAYING THAT I ASK ABOUT C# NOT ABOUT C
13:20
thanks @KendallFrey
I'd start by studying English.
bye the how r u @KendallFrey :)
@AzadChouhan I KNOW THAT.
And maybe cultural sensitivity. Spamming all-caps is considered rude many places on the internet.
yooooo i think we also did chat before this @KendallFrey
13:21
What the hell @AzadChouhan, are you stoned?
@KendallFrey well, I just went full circle: refcardz.dzone.com/refcardz/coredotnet via cheat-sheets.org
@KendallFrey look at who made that...
not at all i am doing my work @RoelvanUden
That dude needs to get a new picture
WPF Question. In a DatePicker I have a DatePickerTextBox as default. The DatePicker has the name as dtpDe, how can I referente the DatePickerTextBox of the dtpDe in the Style properties ?
13:39
:(
can you not install tfs 2010 on a local machine and just run the repository locally?
TFS is not a DVCS
If you want to work on a local repo, you'll need to install the TFS server.
i have tfs 2010 object model - enu installed
starting to think thats not the right install
Is there a way to apply a style for a child element ?
What do you mean?
You want to apply a style to all controls of type X inside a certain control?
13:46
I have a DatePicker but I want to change the default text of the DatePickerTextBox that is nested insde.
You can make a Style with TargetType="DatePickerTextBox"
I misinformed you, sorry. I actually have two datepickers
And each should have different texts
or use Microsoft Expression Blend
you need two styles then
Huh ? Two with the same targettype ?
they are both the same type right?
13:49
Yes
<Style x:Key="style1" TargetType="DatePickerTextBox">
<Style x:Key="style2" TargetType="DatePickerTextBox">
You can't apply them then -_-
That won't work because the targettype won't match
<DatePickerTextBox Style="{StaticResource style1}">
just buy ms expression blend
<DatePicker Name="dpDe"/>
13:51
just don't buy ms expression blend
ohh you're talking the texts boxes in a single dpDe
Every DatePicker has a DatePickerTextBox
And some other element that I still don't know the name
Since I have two datepickers, each should have different texts
Any ideas ?
So...
Could you just set the text on the DatePicker itself?
It doesn't work.
what are you trying to change in the text box?
13:59
What do you mean, it doesn't work?
fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
@KendallFrey It doesn't change the inner value
What should it say?
@NETscape Every DatePicker has a DatePickerTextBox, and the default text value of the DatePickerTextBox is Select a date
So I want to change that
@KendallFrey One should say De and the other should say Até
okay got you
oo
Oh, I think you can put styles directly into the DatePicker.
14:01
?
Then set TargetType to make it automatically apply.
If there is already a style for it, you're screwed.
It changes when I do this:
<Style TargetType="{x:Type DatePickerTextBox}">
    <Setter Property="Text" Value="Até" />
</Style>
But I need one different to the other. :(
Yeah, make a different style in the other DatePicker.
But if I put the targettype to the datepicker, it won't work.
No, don't do that
Put the Style in the DatePicker
14:04
Oh
I see
Ok
Just.. how? ;X
Resources
Same as for a Window
HELL YEAH
Thanks @KendallFrey
amen brotha
@AndréSilva ideone.com/MaiO6h
should be xaml. whatever
where Custom is from xmlns:Custom="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wpf/2008/toolkit"
14:10
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howdy folks
Doing bad.
@AndréSilva Why?
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@AndréSilva did you look at that link?
you would create two of those styles
14:22
@NETscape No need, if you read what Kendall said, it worked perfectly, no need for third part ui element.
@ShotgunNinja Couldn't sleep at night. I started feeling sleepy around 3am and I wake up at 5:15am
I think thats just the way MSEB added it
@AndréSilva eugh
Exactly.
And I'm doing reports all day long.
Reports and WPF
And someone stole my headset from my desk and no one knows who did it so..
I can't hear any music.
This is going to be a long day.
here, some brainfood for you monday guys: xkcd.org/1208
@SteffenWinkler Shoot, the image is blocked...
14:38
Hi guys! Could you help me with the one question please? Thank you!
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Q: Can't catch file upload at server side using HTML5 File API and ASP.NET MVC4

Gelo VolroI'm using the HTML5 File API features to create beatiful file uploader for my website. But I've got some problems with the server side (where I use ASP.NET MVC 4). I couldn't see any file data at the breakpoint in VS, it's just always equaled to the null value. Breakpoint is firing (so by this ...

anyone know of the collapse all shortcut in editor window? (collapses all methods/#regions/ etc)
Hello everyone.
Hey hey :)
I'm very excited today because my offer for my house was accepted.
sfm
sfm
NETscape - I believe it's the chord Ctrl M, O
14:48
Did we get here at the same time @Greg... Creeepppyyy
@NETscape Ctrl+M, O
@Greg Nice!!
@JLott Hey. Um, literally within a minute of each other.
Well, would ya look at that :P
I wish someone on here worked at telerik so I could yell at them.
So, I have 1000 lines of code, and there is a syntax error somewhere in there, but I have no idea where.
14:55
Yeah, I'm not to fond of Telerik.
Okay, so I didn't have a syntax error?
@KendallFrey The debugger doesn't indicate or give you a glistening hopeful chance?
Copy and paste deployment is a bitch.
@Greg What debugger? mwahahaha
Who does know what is the default pattern for the iOS development?
and Android development too
the fuck?
14:58
Silverlight and WPF is the MVVM
wtf is a default pattern?
@GeloVolro Your grammar is the horrible.
this fuck means, the pattern which is implemeting by the default
in IDE
Dude, learn English.
when you are creating the new project
Your English is killing my brain cells.

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