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12:00 AM
(although the caret package / step is not needed)
 
 
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6:58 AM
@SymbolixAU I like the keras package as well
with MNIST example right here keras.rstudio.com
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7:45 AM
good morning good people :-)
 
Hello
@SymbolixAU Thank you!
 
Hello :)
 
morning all
 
 
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10:45 AM
Heya
 
hi @Tens :-)
 
11:18 AM
No Shit Sherlock: We found that regardless of user reputation, successful questions are short, contain code snippets, and do not abuse with uppercase characters. As regards affect, successful questions adopt a neutral emotional style.
 
11:34 AM
The last is not that obvious, positive affect could well be more successful.
 
12:19 PM
I find it a bit surprising that questions with less tags do better. But that's probably correlation instead of causation.
 
12:32 PM
@Roland less tags maybe mean Q is more focused, and attract the right type of users? Like when post is tagged with "A,B,C,X,Y" it is usually bad and closed as too broad.
 
12:47 PM
@zx8754 I think the problem is rather that people asking bad questions tend to use as many tags as they can come up with, most of them not related to the question. See this example.
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@Jaap FWIW it looks like maybe the purrr/lapply question has been re-worded to be primarily performance / structure based. That doesn't mean that opinion won't seep into the answers though.
 
They've got the answer they want/need, don't see the point of re-opening.
 
Who ever thought that I'd miss Slack emoji's as a means of communication? I've been ruined. All of which is to say 'okay'. =)
 
1:11 PM
 
@zx8754 Didn't read the question, but a question on SO is for a knowledge base, not just to help the question author, maybe in few weeks someone will come with a better approach or a new package simplifying it and could add an answer
That's the point about keeping questions open, closing them means they are not to be answered at all (either duplicate or won't be of real use on mid/long term)
 
this type of questions mainly triggers opiniated answers, so it should be closed
as I said earlier, the question can stay online and doesn't have to be deleted
but then again, that's my opinion ;-)
 
@russellpierce You can always copy paste 👍. Also curious if shortcode is supported :+1:.
Shortcode not supported...
 
 
 
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2:46 PM
This is new to me, split by columns: split.default
 
@zx8754 and that would be winner for "function of the day"
I guess it's like lapply(df, [[, grep(pattern, colnames(df)))
backticks don't disply for [[ and I cannot remember how to make them do :-/
 
I can never remember :) but I see what you mean
 
@zx8754 That's just the default method. It disregards the data.frame class and treats it as a list.
@Cath lapply(df, `[[`, grep(pattern, colnames(df)))
Just use double backticks to start and end the code markup.
 
@Roland thanks :-). I'll try and remember for next time!
 
3:13 PM
@zx8754 as I thought: it's lmo who used it in an answer; I've only seen him using it a couple of times before
@Cath you've said that before ;-)
 
@Jaap yeah, I thought so... ;-)
 
So... I've got fired today
 
huh? how come?
that's bad news
 
they closed the part of the business I was part of
so they fired a bunch of guys in a bulk
but this is common in startups I guess
no job security whatsoever
 
3:30 PM
@DavidArenburg I'm very sorry for you, this is terrible, did you get a warning at least or does it come out of the blue
 
@Cath out of the blue pretty much
 
wow, sorry to hear that, any plan b?
 
I have a month to look for a new job
 
that makes things even worse
 
I hope a month will be enough
 
3:32 PM
I hope so too and for a better job closer to your home
 
amen to that ^
though we don't have jobs in Jerusalem
 
4:01 PM
@DavidArenburg Good luck. That sucks.
 
4:32 PM
@DavidArenburg good luck in finding a new job
is moving an option? (because the jobs aren't in Jerusalem)
 
@Jaap Thanks, already working on it
@Jaap for now, no. Unless it will be nessacery
 
can imagine that; how is the job market in Israel?
over here we are starting to get serious shortages for some occupations
 
@Jaap Data Science has a very high demand
the problem is that the interview process are usually are also long and you eventually get very tired if you don't find something real quick
 
5:08 PM
 
5:39 PM
^ one more vote
hm, that sucks, good luck David
 
6:05 PM
i see the shinyapps tag here, isn't it redundant/a dupe with ? stackoverflow.com/questions/47288374/…
 
It is, but 1300 posts...
There are so many not r but shinyapps and not r but shiny, shouldn't all these have an R tag?
 
6:24 PM
weird, dunno enough about shiny to say. (i only noticed this since i block the shiny tag but then still saw a shinyapps post)
@zx8754 they seem to routinely get <= 1 answers, so probably in the OP's interest to have R there, anyway...
i guess the 2k tag followers aren't bothering...
 
Anyway automatically adding R tag to those? or is it Mods only
 
i'm not sure even mods can do it
i mean, maybe they can write a script to, but they aren't provided tools to do so, i guess
too late for those OPs and for future OPs even if these were fixed, we'd want the rule to still be applied... need better tag watchers or some strict dependency rule (not sure if SO uses those at all)
i'd like to point out that 'verse grammar (in this case overwriting setdiff) is creating problems for its users who land on SO stackoverflow.com/questions/47292705/… as anticipated and discussed eg here chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/35057480#35057480 ... but hey, are we still allowed to discuss the issue, possibly in a way that is critical of 'verse design decisions and principles?
also, any dupe for that?
 
6:49 PM
Is it not "code no work" instead of "dupe"?
 
@zx8754 "code no work" == "please give a reproducible example", but we don't need an example since we can answer the q just from the code given, no? maybe i'm getting my closed reasons mixed up
 
Agreed, your comment matches with answer from above link, using ::
 
ok, thanks gonna dupe with that, even though the OP knows about :: (since it's in their post)
 
So according to above, we should be able to stop libs masking some functions. I fail to understand how, anyone? Or is it to do with the order which libs are loaded first?
 
7:26 PM
@zx8754 I think this is exclusively for use within package namespaces. So in my package, I could do import(dplyr, except(c(lag, filter))). I don't think this actually addresses the question.
 
@lionel you should have access now
 
thanks
 
Hi @lionel. Welcome.
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np, welcome
 
hi everyone
 
7:28 PM
@lionel Hello and welcome
 
I have added an answer on the issue of managing imports
 
nice
not sure i agree with "More generally a good rule is to rely on a single attached package and selectively import the rest." since plenty of packages are careful not to conflict with each other or base and so can be safely attached together, eh
 
it's mainly a suggestion for packages. Most of the times things work out indeed so it's not as important for scripts.
 
7:44 PM
oh, sounds reasonable, yeah
 
 
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9:36 PM
heh, new discourse user doesn't realize edits are public community.rstudio.com/t/…
"it's not for school" just after editing title from something like "help! for school!"
also, interestingly, that question cannot be answered
 
 
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11:52 PM
@Frank Absolutely. setdiff is particularly puzzling because it should probably be set_diff in order to be consistent. In all the chaos over the last couple of days I don't think anyone has objected to providing specific criticisms of the tidyverse.
And if they had then they wouldn't have much to stand on.
Actually, the situation with setdiff is a little different.
dplyr defines a new generic, and uses base::setdiff as the default, so it's not as bad as the lag / filter business.
 
@BrodieG well, there was alternation between "these two comments are offensive if you read them my way!" and "anti-'verse discussion in these rooms is toxic"
@BrodieG yeah, not sure if there's a situation in which it'd be harmful, the way it's handled in dplyr
 

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