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12:00 AM
 
@meagar Same.
 
@meagar: don't confuse the edit suggestions rate depicted in the graph with the revisions rate.
Ah, you are not :-)
 
@MartijnPieters Yeah; it was the revision rate graph that I was trying to link to
 
I'm not even a top editor on SO. See stackoverflow.com/users?tab=editors&filter=all
 
I know
I'm way down in the lower right corner of that screen :p
@MartijnPieters Did you ever know/bump into Jon Seigel?
 
12:11 AM
I don't, no. Should I?
 
Probably not. He was way up in the top page of editors at one point.
And is still near the top on meta.SE: meta.stackexchange.com/users?tab=Editors&filter=all
Despite not really having done anything in several years
All of his ~5000 edits took place in like a year, in 2009-2010
Man, he's still on the second page of meta.SE with 32,000 rep, again, having not done anything significant since 2010
Anyways, during that period in 2009-2010 when he rocketed up on meta, we were roommates :p
He introduced me to Stack Overflow
He was actually #3 on meta in 2010, and now he's all but forgotten
 
Yeah; people come and go as life takes different turns. I don't show up in those tables until 2012, really.
 
12:38 AM
Seems like I am in a right place, the Javascript room
Ok, I have a question
Guys, I have a problem with my face texture
it's just little bit gross to look at
how do you fix it?
 
@EnglishMaster The JavaScript room is thataway; this is the election discussion room.
 
Ok, I don't care, they are all same
 
@EnglishMaster Not exactly the same; the JS room has people who have a good knowledge of JavaScript in it, and who are there specifically wanting to talk about it. You'll get a much more useful reply if you ask in the correct room. :) You probably won't get any answers in here.
 
right
 
@JasonC he's a troll - we have to kick him out of the Python room on a regular basis (and I believe the Javascript room likewise).
 
12:59 AM
Just put him on ignore; it is easier that way.
 
@meagar I remember
 
I'm considering withdrawing from the election. Something happened in the past 24 hours that means I'm probably going to have a lot less time on my hands.
 
@AlexisKing: that's unfortunate, how much time do you think you'd have?
 
@AlexisKing Hope everything is OK
 
@Qantas94Heavy That's the trouble—I can't really gauge how much time I'll have until things settle down.
@meagar I've been better, but nothing awful. I'll be alright.
 
1:09 AM
Oh, doesn't seem too good then. Hopefully things resolve themselves soon.
 
1:22 AM
@AlexisKing I'm very sorry to hear that!
 
 
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2:44 AM
@AlexisKing: I see you withdrew. Sorry to see you go, good luck with whatever you have to deal with at the moment!
 
@MartijnPieters Thanks. It's nothing terrible, but probably not the best time to be making any new commitments.
 
 
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5:00 AM
In terms of moderation, can't help but think of Shel Silverstein:
 
 
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6:31 AM
So I have plots generated for SO, MSO, MSE, and the three combined now. The meta post still shows SO only. I'm thinking of switching it to all three combined. That makes sense, right? It makes a decent difference for certain users. I'd love to make a summary of SO and MSO+MSE only, but adding another 62 graphs to that page is a bit much. Have to settle for one (the rest are on github).
 
@JasonC Sounds like you need to enlist the help of UX.SE.
 
Heh; well in any case, I'm not going to put multiple sets on the meta post. The option is pretty much SO (like it is now), or change to SO+MSO+MSE combined.
 
6:47 AM
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 8 mins ago, by Alexis King
Psst, @bjb. Spin it as you being "qualified to handle users who use poor English."
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 25 secs ago, by Alexis King
Psst, @bjb. Spin it as you "aren't like the other candidates because you don't blindly conform."
 
 
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8:15 AM
Does moderator undeletion prevent re-deletion by users?
I'd guess no.
 
@JasonC are those on teh same scale as the ones on meta.so?
(Also, Thanks!)
 
Yeah
 
Wow that's actually more activity than a lot of candidates o_0
 
@JeremyBanks No it doesn't prevent.
 
8:21 AM
Good. Thanks! :)
 
That's, pretty surprising
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum are you referring the dropbox or Jermy's question? ;)
 
The dropbox
 
 
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9:30 AM
@JasonC when you scrapped all the data, did you save it in a more raw form or just by weekly sums? Was just thinking it might be interesting to do some grouping of the data on smaller timescales. In particular, I was thinking of looking at the activity as a function of time-of-day, so you'd be able to see that CandidateX is active during the day UTC but CandidateY is active at night.
 
 
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11:50 AM
In a comment on your moderator election nomination, you said that answering questions which were obvious duplicates was a one-off case in the past. Do you believe answering this question goes against your moderation philosophy? — Qantas 94 Heavy 12 mins ago
Do you guys think I was right to ask about this?
 
12:50 PM
@Qantas94Heavy Yes.
Though it might have its proper exposure if asked on the nomination post itself.
 
1:37 PM
is this type of comments are allowed?
 Can this nomination please be deleted again? –  yellowantphil yesterday
This will definitely hurt the nominee.
 
@AvinashRaj: where was this?
 
Below the Jeremy Banks's post.
 
Oh
He's deleted and undeleted it multiple times for some reason
 
so what?
 
earlier he said that he was there just to avoid "poor quality" candidates getting in
I'm not justifying the comment, just stating the background behind it.
 
1:44 PM
hmm. But i think no one has the right to ask an user to delete his nomination post..
 
@AvinashRaj I see it as humor than an insult, but I agree that it's not constructive.
 
For a first-timer like me it seems rude.
 
2:11 PM
I can't remember; do the comments below nominations carry over to the primary, or does the primary start without comments?
 
2:22 PM
@meagar I cannot remember too
 
@AvinashRaj my comment made sense in the previous context. I'll delete it now.
 
@meagar I don't think primary has comments at all.
 
@Unihedro primary has comments.
I think it starts with the same comments. Only you can vote on them.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum That's weird, I can't find any in the previous elections. Are they gone afterwards?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum No, I don't think primary has comments
 
2:36 PM
Astro passed hichris. It’s a three-way deathmatch now.
 
oh, odd, last year you could vote on comments in the nomination phase
 
@yellowantphil FFA Deathmatch
 
@Unihedro Future Farmers of America?
 
@yellowantphil Free for all
Deathmatch or Free-For-All (FFA, also called DM or Player vs All) is a widely used gameplay mode integrated into many shooter and real-time strategy (RTS) video games. Normally the goal of a deathmatch game is to kill (or "frag", from the military term) as many other players as possible until a certain condition or limit is reached, commonly being a frag limit or time limit. Once one of these conditions is met, the match is over and the winner is the player that accumulated the greatest number of frags. It is an evolution of the competitive multiplayer modes found in genres such as fighting games...
 
Astro might even catch up with Shree
 
2:39 PM
This is intense. xD
I should start gathering rep before I get in danger. :P
 
@Unihedro none can escape the deathmatch. It is coming for you
 
except you don't get eliminated immediately; this is a deathmarch, not a deathmatch
 
... That makes it even scarier.
 
You can escape the deachmarch. Denominate yourself.
 
I'm concerned at Martijn's lack of activity in December 2013 for a brief period of time - do we really want a moderator that does that? — Benjamin Gruenbaum 17 hours ago
LOL
 
2:44 PM
This makes me look bad. :p
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum: the 2013 eggnog my wife made is still being talked about in hushed tones. It was an epic Christmas. I can now see there was a downside to that! — Martijn Pieters 16 hours ago
@BenjaminGruenbaum I like how someone took your comment seriously :D
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum: wasn't it you can vote on comments in primary, but not add any new ones?
 
From the sidebar on the primary phase:

> There is no commenting in this phase, only one up or down vote per candidate.
It doesn’t say whether nomination comments remain.
 
It doesn't show comments for last year's primaries, so I don't think so. You can still click the nomination tab to see them though.
Oh, it's a deliberate change to disable comment upvoting during elections
 
@SecondRikudo I replied
 
2:52 PM
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A: Can *too* upvote comments under an election nomination

Geoff DalgasVoting for comments has been disabled during the nomination phase for now. We want to make sure that we are at consistent when it comes to elections.

 
@Qantas94Heavy eh, maybe?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I saw :D
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum: no, you were right
 
 
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3:55 PM
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Q: Who can vote in the elections?

shapiro.yaacovHow much reputation does one need in order to vote? I have read through the election page, and I have either missed it completely, or it is not mentioned there.

 
@Ffisegydd A list of individual events is in seactivity.db(.gz), on github; it's an SQLite database. sqlitebrowser.org is a good tool for quick browsing.
 
@JasonC awesome mate. I'll have a look through and see what I can make of it.
 
4:18 PM
@rlemon Thanks again.
I'm still planning on adding that Node example when I get the chance.
 
4:55 PM
@Ffisegydd Data updated to include jeremy just now.
I need to stop using the current time as the right edge of the graphs; it means every file changes every time then I end up with these huge commits.
 
> My SO moderator nomination. If you don't vote for me, vote for meagar, Martijn Pieters, and Raghav Sood! Undo, too! (Well, pick 3.)
Nice way to promote, @JasonC :p
 
5:56 PM
> In the nomination phase, any community member in good standing with more than 4,896 reputation may nominate themselves to be a community moderator.
That's an... oddly specific number...
 
@SecondRikudo It's @bjb's rep.
 
lol
Of course it is
 
I sort of want to get to exactly 3000 rep and nominate myself next time, and then ask for a downvote. The world needs to know what happens when someone with < 3000 rep is on the list
and a demonstration would be more fun than asking meta
 
6:14 PM
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Q: Can we use something other than reputation as the bottleneck for election primaries?

AstroCBWe recently began the sixth moderator election on Stack Overflow. There is a huge number of highly qualified candidates, and there are 23 overall at the time of this writing. That's great, but there's this to consider: After 7 days, the top 30 nominees, ordered by reputation, advance to the ...

^^^ how about scoring candidates in milliMartijns?
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picoMartijns
 
6:35 PM
@gnat After looking at these, I think that might actually be viable.
 
7:18 PM
@gnat @AstroCB Martijn has an average of 49.7 events per day on so+mso+mse since his first event. I propose that 1 Martijn = 49.7 events per day, between the times of a user's first and last event. To that end:
     user           username events   days eventsperday millimartijn
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    35417    Martijn Pieters 105266 2117.9        49.70      1000.00
  4101518            AstroCB  14689  407.7        36.03       724.79
  1703573               Undo  14212  857.1        16.58       333.60
  3597478          Amit Joki   7133  510.5        13.97       281.14
  1424245 Benjamin Gruenbaum  13699 1086.2        12.61       253.73
      378             deceze  28954 2437.3        11.88       239.00
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And yes, I totally support scoring candidates in milliMartijns. We just need a good unit symbol for it.
^ @MartijnPieters
 
@JasonC You should seriously pull your socks if you want to be in the race :P
 
@JasonC Would millininja make a good unit?
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@JasonC It actually works.
Wow.
 
@ItachiUchiha I know, right. I'm still really curious about how much data is missing due to deleted posts not being available.
 
AstroCB == 725 millininijas.
 
7:23 PM
^
 
@MartijnPieters If the unit doesn't have your name in it, it totally defeats the purpose. Now, pick your favorite unicode character (... OR ELSE)
 
@JasonC Live Long and Prosper. From Unicode 7.0..
 
@MartijnPieters Dammit, Chrome.
Heh, "RAISED HAND WITH PART BETWEEN MIDDLE AND RING FINGERS"
 
U+1F596 🖖 raised hand with part between middle and ring fingers.
Yup, that one.
 
It's settled, then. The official symbol for the unit, Martijn, is the undefined character square.
At least you didn't pick the rtl mark.
 
7:29 PM
@JasonC Now you can add 🖖™ score to the Meta question.
 
@JasonC damn! I should've though of that.
 
I object to milliMartijns.... we should have picoPuppies... but that's going to break the Y axis (again) big time for Martijn :p
 
I object to picoPuppies, in favor of picoKittens.
 
shouldn't that be kiloKittens?
 
Why no crabs
 
7:40 PM
Anyways, I need to re-stress this: All of this data is missing data on deleted posts and is fundamentally flawed. Please take it all with a grain of salt, the milliMartijns thing is for humor value; the general data is only partially complete.
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@JonClements milliMonkeys?
 
Add flags to the scale plz ;(
 
@Unihedro flags aren't public record though
 
My late activity histogram looks really bad cuz I didn't do more than flagging and voting :p
true
 
@Unihedro I would if I could. I pulled every bit of public data possible. Votes, flags, and deleted post data is missing.
 
There should be a thing where you can request SE to run a query on private data.
 
7:42 PM
Just do so some freehand line drawing on the stats post - no one will notice :p
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Ha
 
If @JasonC doesn't object for the possible vandalism I'll sketch on my box ;)
 
@JasonC regardless of some missing data (which isn't your problem) - I think it's a great effort and really quite enlightening... thanks for taking your time to do it
 
@Unihedro Most of the post is autogenerated. Changes will be lost, mwahaha.
 
@MartijnPieters That renders in Chrome, btw @JasonC. Wait for 43.
 
7:54 PM
@bjb568 I believe there is such a thing, but it's mainly (only?) for academic purposes, and of course you need to sign an NDA.
 
I was thinking of more like a these people are running for mod, we can make some graphs public type of thing.
 
And @Shog9, on that note, I think the information density of these blurbs should be high. If a user is nominating him/herself for this position, they should be willing to display their laundry. If they're not proud of their actions and stats, they shouldn't be running. — AstroCB Apr 7 at 6:01
 
 
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9:08 PM
@JasonC: I can only underscore Jon's words here: thanks for the work you put into these graphs!
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