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V.7
12:46 AM
Oh dear ...
GIMP is so ... "awesome"
 
V.7
12:59 AM
A loop story "Tried creating GIF" ...:

1. Ok, here's an image. I need to put in it other GIF.
2. Imported.
3. Ok, how to move this imported now(all 350 frames of an imported GIF)?
4. Googlin': says, you can not select them all, but put them into layer group.
5. No problem. How put them all without selecting them all? ...
6. Ended up with creating a group and dragging a GIF into this group ...
7. IT WORKED. I moved a GIF(all its frames) inside a project.
8. How to export?(GIF export process says can export only Grayed or Indexed projects).
 
 
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4:28 AM
 
5:11 AM
yo yo yo
 
6:01 AM
GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOd Mornin' neglecterinos!
 
 
1 hour later…
7:09 AM
Just wondering but, I have Class A with property 1 and Class B with property 2. I want Class B's property to always be the same as class A But without having to set it constantly... I believe it would be similar to using a pointer in C++. Should I do it this way or should I update the value of Class B every time Class A's value has changed.
 
Hello :)
 
Implement class A : IObservable<TypeOf_A_Property1> {} and class B : IObserver<TypeOf_A_Property1> {}
 
Thanks DK
 
You're welcome :)
 
jw but does it have much overhead if the value is changing rapidly?
actually nvm it should have a small enough access rate that it wont matter
 
7:21 AM
It should be good enough for 99% cases
 
My plan is to use it for gui binding.
basically just a few gui things will need it, HP Bars, Buff displays, etc. hoping it will be fine for that. Just started to plan out the Gui Control classes, so still got quite a bit to go :). Thanks again
 
It is basically works similar to WPF INotifyPropertyChanged
 
Oh excellent =)
 
@JasonBrown It'll be fast enough for that. Besides, game GUIs traditionally render at the framerate refreshing the whole damn thing each time. Yours will do far less work.
 
ya im not a fan of refreshing everything all at once if the data hasnt changed :)...learned from working on a vb6 game about making a gui that didnt have to grab the data for all the controls every frame... lol
 
7:35 AM
Eh, it's fine either way. It doesn't really matter in the grand scope of things, i.e. rendering your game world takes far, far, far more resources than that UI
 
2d game world so not much more :)
 
Still far more than a UI :D
 
true I guess all depends on whats rendering
 
Hello all
 
Hi o/
 
7:39 AM
I included a master page into my UI page but when I debug master page is not loading at all
any solution for this
 
Buenos dias CeSharp! I'm back from vacation o/
*Vacation in this case means at home trying to build something with blazor
 
@Squirrelkiller welcome back
 
7:55 AM
@Squirrelkiller yeahy wb
Will you be in altona today?
 
8:51 AM
ahoy mateys o/
 
user1254844
Hello All, I am looking for Working example of workflowengine.io workflow engine
 
yo yo yo
I smell a squirrel
 
squirrels are the natural enemy of cups of coffee
it goes back thousands of years
 
morning
 
9:06 AM
sup guys?
 
anyone has used swagger?
 
should I cry?
 
Once upon a time there was a village of CupsOfJavas. They were a peace porcelain. They could often be found minding their own business, solving no such method found Error. One day everything changed when the squirrels arrived. It drank of one of the CupsOfJavas and went nuts, the rest of the story is too graphic to tell ....
 
is there a way to set multiple responsetypes?
 
9:08 AM
@Shad Yes
no
 
okay
:(
 
Why would you want it to respond with different types?
 
yeah, I've used swagger. Whats the question?
nvm
@Shad are you talking about a complex schemas?
 
does this mean that those 3 (2nd, 3rd and 5th) applications reserve about 6GB of ram but dont use it?
preventing other applications of using that ram
 
Are you using it for something else?
 
9:16 AM
I am at 85% memory all the time and I see a lot of "Hard Faults"
 
Why do you use so much memory
 
google says that the "Hard Faults" are the cause of low available memory
 
You have 32gb don't you/
 
I have 16 on this machine
I have 3 machines, one 32GB, two 16GB
 
9:17 AM
the one with 32GB never has memory issues
not even when I debug my compiler with some weird debugging shit
 
9:29 AM
O_O
 
9:40 AM
turns out debugger is using toString to display the text for each object in the stack frame....
turns out that that particular stack frame had the source code, lex token lists, abstract syntax tree, program instruction declaration and the entire pipeline in its memory...
and I redirect toString to toJsonString... which gives you the json of the entire tree
 
removing the pipeline toString stuff reduced the memory to 2.5GB
because those had the references to the trees
 
Official: Wiet's a fucking moron
 
Good morning guys, is there a realistic / straightforward way for me to convert a ASP.net core MVC project I've written to a vb.net windows form app?
 
@CaptainObvious Lee, did you just say the f word?
 
9:55 AM
@zadders no
 
@Hozuki Could it not be done at all? or any approaches I can take to recreate it in a similar way?
 
@zadders There is no way. The two are very different platforms and languages.
You'll essentially start from scratch. You can share business logic tho, but that's about it.
 
So like my Model classes' logic can be the same,but the rest would differ right?
 
yep
 
ahhh, I don't even know where to start with this. I finally got the project working in asp.net mvc and now my boss wants me to convert it to a desktop app so it can work with his vb.net app that he has
I can't even find any modern documentations lmaooo this is hell
 
10:01 AM
I like how the two newest memebrs on the starboard are baisically insults. Tells allot about this room :D
 
I have two/three weeks for advanced/further training at home. But what to learn now?
Any recommendations?
 
10:14 AM
what kind of "advanced"?
 
I work as a IT consultant.
@Wietlol Last week my project finished.
So I want to improve my skills. I thought you could give me some suggestions. :)
 
I can give suggestions, but while being oblivious to the degree of skills in your reservoir, my suggestions would be shooting in the dark
I can suggest you learn looping and classes, but I assume you already know how to use those
I could suggest Single Level of Abstraction and Separation of Concerns, but they might be too high level for you
 
Single Level of Abstraction and Separation of Concerns sounds interessting :D
 
they are software engineering principles, guidelines to software engineering to help you make maintainable and clean code
 
@Wietlol What do you think about TDD. Is this the way programmers work today?
 
10:24 AM
I dont work with TDD myself, but I hear quite a few people do
I do still have the mindset of TDD tho, making expectations of what will happen, validating that what happened was what I expected or finding out why my expectations were wrong
 
@Wietlol using TDD sounds like clean code
 
I even do this for other applications
TDD does not mean clean code
TDD means that your desired output is defined before you write the code
 
but TDD improves the quality of the programm
 
and it means that you have unit tests to assert that the code is what you desired
TDD improves the integrity of the program, not the quality
 
Is clean code more about readability and maintainability then?
 
10:26 AM
hugs
 
ye, clean code is more like making the code being easy to read, understand and maintain
and following guidelines everywhere
 
@Wietlol So very important if code is bigger than 1000-10000 lines.
 
naming conventions, formatting conventions, etc
I would say that clean code is important for every single line of code for projects ranging from 1 to Int64.MaxValue lines
 
@Wietlol Almost all of my about 100-500 "projects" have about 100-5000 lines of code. So nothing bigger yet
@Wietlol Clean code sound like a very good topic for further training and hone my skills. :D
 
clean code is especially important when you work in a team
code that I write should be readable and understandable by my colleagues
this is why we focus a lot on SLA and SOC
which help a lot in being able to understand the logic
 
10:36 AM
@Wietlol how do you know when to write a program asynchronously as opposed to synchronously?
 
oh, that is easy, I just avoid at all cost
but I am a rebel
 
@Wietlol why?
 
I avoid it because it has literally no benefit for me
 
Anyone know how to do wildcards in WIndows Credential Manager?
 
10:37 AM
This says it basically "jsut works", but it doesn't.
 
@Wietlol so are you totally unfamiliar with asynchronous programming?
 
I am very familiar with it
 
If not, I could still get some tips.
 
10:39 AM
@MyWrathAcademia what do you want to know mote about?
 
@Wietlol lolol :D hilarious
 
@Wietlol For example, I wrote a program to calculate the minimum tax I could pay. This program is synchronous but I'm wondering if I could make it asynchronous, just to practice.
 
do you mean like an actual asynchronous procedure (with message queues and shit) or like with async/await?
 
@Wietlol I might learn about queueing tasks today which is one way to handle reentrancy in async apps. But for now I want to practice using async and await.
 
@Hans1984 youtube.com/watch?v=-j_CxQFziFU this also got stuck in my head since yesterday (when a repost was posted on imgur)
 
10:45 AM
@Wietlol lool thats also funny ;D
I like boris for the hook
he sounds like kermit
 
10:57 AM
@MyWrathAcademia async/await is just used to do thread management in your application
for example, if you invoke some web request to a service that takes 30 seconds to respond, you dont want to hold the thread hostage for those 30 seconds
you want it to be available for other incoming requests or be able to update your ui (preventing it from freezing)
callbacks are usually the solution to those issues
but callbacks are a hell for your source code
async/await "solves" that
truly asynchronous procedures (with queues and shit) need a whole different design
the returns to the client/caller are simply information of that the request is accepted and will be handled by the system
the client would have an api to check for the status of the request, upload additional information for it or retrieve the result of the process
it often involves multiple different projects/applications working together
which is far beyond async/await's capabilities
 
@Wietlol interesting, I thought that when awaiting a task since a thread can only do one thing at a time. A new thread is created to execute the task that is being awaited while the old thread returns to the caller of the async method in which the await statement was executed to continue executing?
@Wietlol What are callbacks and why are they hell for your code?
 
the advantage of tasks/async/await is that the runtime doesnt have to make new threads
as for callbacks, callbacks are basically a way of telling the runtime what to do after a specific task is completed
for example
UpdateDatabase(callback: (result) => {
    DoTheThingWithTheResult(result)
})
instead of
var result = UpdateDatabase();
DoTheThingWithTheResult(result);
the more async calls you have, the more callbacks you have to pass over
and this leads your code to indentation hell
with async, the equivalent would be
var result = await UpdateDatabaseAsync();
DoTheThingWithTheResult(result);
 
11:18 AM
@Wietlol So static async Task GiveMeAnInteger() {await anAsyncMethod(); return;} does not create a new thread at the await statement? If a thread can only do one thing at a time and we are awaiting a Task to be returned by the async method anAsyncMethod when it is called, how is the method anAsyncMethod executed at the same time control returns to the caller of GiveMeAnInteger to continue executing without having two threads to execute the two async methods concurrently?
 
indeed, it wont create a new thread
anAsyncMethod can be running at the same time as the caller is running if your application is running in a thread pool
 
Hi folks, do you have any idea to solve my problem below? almost 7 days without answer.
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Q: How to avoid tracking conflict when recreate a database?

Money Oriented Programmerclass Todo { public int Id { get; private set; } public string Description { get; set; } } class AppDbContext : DbContext { public DbSet<Todo> Todos { get; private set; } protected override void OnConfiguring(DbContextOptionsBuilder options) { options.UseSqlite("Data ...

 
however, on a single threaded application, (and in most cases in a multithreaded application), your functions wont run at the same time
your thread will start invoking the method, but when it reaches an await operation, it stops and returns to the caller, continuing that function, until that one reaches an await operation
this all falls back down to the root of the invocation
at that point, the thread is freed and can be used to continue where it first stopped at the await
 
Another nice explanation about async/await can be found here. My answer is also available there.
 
mr5
o/
 
11:28 AM
@Wietlol I'll respond after a meeting I have now
 
\0
!~shiba
 
11:55 AM
Oh damn
I do some work and there's 5 stars on my comment
 
what did you expect?
 
12:31 PM
silence
 
SILENCE
@nyconing lol
 
> Remember, this can have copyright claims, so don’t use it.
 
@nyconing ah the sound of silence, I love that song
 
What is the music of life?
 
12:44 PM
Hello darkness, my o... WHAT THE HECK IS THAT DOT DOING IN MY PRECIOUS DARKNESS?!
 
@nyconing Heart beats
 
@DKDhilip You are not worthy
 
@nyconing Why?
 
unworthy one !
hehe
!~shiba
 
12:52 PM
silent shiba
 
obviously who didnt played skyrim
 
hes about to bark I think
 
@nyconing XD
I was too poor to play that :(
 
@nyconing I also dont get the reference... and I played a lot of skyrim
 
because you killed astrid
 
12:58 PM
Ba-dum tishh
@nyconing What else do you play?
 
anyone else hyped about the latest satisfactory update?
 
bark bark
 
taiko no tatsujin nintendo switch bajon
 
hmm... it is a long time since I did the dark brotherhood quest
 
I didn't play video games for a whole month already
 
1:10 PM
That was one of the first things I did in skyrim was the dark brotherhood storyline
 
No life...
 
I think the first was the thieves guild
 
suppu?
 
I think the system works lads
 
Year 2008
Full Windows XP running on DVD
 
1:23 PM
I've got back into playing csgo
and my computer is currently deconstructed in my parents dining room
I HAVE THE ITCH
I WISH TO PLAY THE VIDYA
 
V.7
@CaptainSquirrel They have nice video optimization I think ... comparing others ...
 
it runs silky smooth on my 4th gen i7 and 1070
 
V.7
@CaptainObvious He/She is nice. What are you talkin' about :3
 
A person can be nice and a moron at the same time
@Wietlol is the perfect example of that
 
V.7
@CaptainSquirrel IMHO They have to add a woman to T agents.
 
1:37 PM
@CaptainSquirrel ohai
 
@CaptainSquirrel have you considered constructing it
 
@V.7 why do you think that?
@CaptainObvious well yes, but considering we moved back in yesterday, I didn't really have time
I think i might construct it tonight as i'll have bugger all to do otherwise
 
Whered you move to
PLAY VIDYA
 
@CaptainObvious back to mah parents
 
I bought satisfactory on the weekend
Excellent gamew
 
1:42 PM
Stupid Windows WebView, you can't overlay UI element on top of it.
 
@dk you're doing it wrong
probably
 
CEF worked fine
 
V.7
@CaptainSquirrel Because they have only one girl withing 22 agents
 
Yeah but is the 12gb of ram requirement worth using CEF
 
As long as it gets the job done lol
 
V.7
1:44 PM
@V.7 For me this looks like a sexual discrimination :3
 
You are the absolute worst
 
lol
But the CEF broke the WPF design view
Shitty software...
 
guess who's here and extremely annoyed?? :D
 
me
 
No you?
 
1:49 PM
my boss
but also me
traveling over half an hour to work and then realizing you left your laptop at home is not fun
 
ugh
 
I have the luxury of not having that problem
I just dont forget my laptop
 
@V.7 ....there's a female agent?
and how is it sexual discrimination, tis a game good sir
 
I now have a plan to prevent me ever leaving the laptop behind
 
V.7
@CaptainSquirrel Eva
 
1:58 PM
I'm not playing said game to be a guy or a girl, i'm playing to get my rank up
 
I also have the luxury of when I do find myself in the situation of having left something at home, I can just travel to home and back to work again within 25 minutes
 
V.7
@CaptainSquirrel Of course ... although, I am mainly playing to catch some fun with cheerful mates and I would love playing with a girl character on both sides.
 
hey
what game are you talking about
finally some non c# stuff
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Satisfactory
meanwhile all I did this weekend was get 91 fletch
 
haven't played that game
heard it was a 3D version of Factorio
do you know what I've been playing last 3 weeks?
 
2:12 PM
pacman?
 
Factorio?
 
;)
 
Minesweeper?
 
it's a very cool game where you basically go to places, look around for cars, and run away after they tell you the actual price
 
GTA IRL?
 
2:13 PM
I think they call it "Waste my time and eventually pay 2 years of salary to buy something that would allow me to go places.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Jewish car swappers?
 
why jewish though
 
"run away after they tell you the actual price"
 
Oh oh oh, and I also played Some Dawn of War Ultimate Apocalypse
@MwBakker I think anyone would run away from a place where a 200HP car with worse-than-others features sits at 60k cash
 
what car is that
 
2:16 PM
there are many along those lines
let's go with one, Alfa Romeo Giulia
 
Alfa Romeo's aluminium would be as crusty as the pizza's they make in that country
 
why dont you just buy a Tesla Cybertruck?
I mean... it is technically a batmobile
 
because life is not a 1998 Sega game
 
My budget and sense of fashion stop me buying that.
 
Don't get an alfa
 
2:19 PM
I am not getting an Alfa, it was just one of the joke cars
 
then just buy a Jaguar XF
 
I am most likely getting an MX5
It's a shame there are no links to this car yet
 
I recently bought a '87 thunderbird turbo coupe and I am so in love
 
That car looks so '80s
 
@HéctorÁlvarez exactly what I wished for
 
2:28 PM
Well then you might want to look into John Wick's car
 
I wouldn't purchase that car imo
 
@CaptainSquirrel which one
 
@CaptainSquirrel You wouldn't steal a bike?
 
excuse me, watafak
!~wtf
 
Piracy is a crime!
 
@HéctorÁlvarez this is pure porn right there
 
it is, and you can buy it
dude this is some car
if I had the money...
 
@HéctorÁlvarez no I can't :(
 
> The base price for the vehicle is $169,000
I spat my liver
 
2:31 PM
He could have me as a slave
I wouldn't care as long as I own such car
 
count me in
 
@MwBakker Yours
I'm a fan of el classico cars but i'm not a fan of the look of the thunderbird
@HéctorÁlvarez thats very very very noice
 
2:48 PM
Hans
You should change your pic to a squirrel
you post more squirrel stuff than everyone else combined
join the gang
 
no, hansuru is a cat
 
mr5
 
@mr5 The veracity of this post is the product of all its facts
since "Feline eggs" has a factor of 0%, then the final product is always zero
 
mr5
@HéctorÁlvarez what does this sentence means?
 
2:51 PM
@CaptainSquirrel why not
 
mr5
 
@MwBakker i dunno, just not a fan of the look of it
 
mr5
why did hector wrote veracity instead of accuracy?
 
@CaptainSquirrel you don't like 80's cars?
 
@mr5 it means felines are mammals
!~define veracity
 
2:54 PM
@HéctorÁlvarez veracity (uncountable, of a person) The quality of speaking or stating the truth; truthfulness.
 
that car is nsfw
 
what car
 
the one hector posted above
 
@HéctorÁlvarez never
I'm a cat
I despise those dirty rodents
 
I hate rodents, too, but I was foamy the squirrel for awhile
omfg though that reminds me...went to see my mom and brother this weekend and my om was really excited to get a new pet cat
 
2:55 PM
its only topped by harrys hairy roach a.ss
 
Ryan Donovan on March 02, 2020
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my brother was acting weird the whole time and said he'd rather get a dog, despite the apt not allowing it and the fact that we had a cat for 3 years when he was like 14
 
what about this one?
 
so then once he realized we were getting the cat, he started breaking down and I'm just standing there like wtaf
 
2:56 PM
@MwBakker nah, i think its the front of the car
 
mr5
I can't relate to the car thing
I'm so poor
 
OH OH guys gotta show you what I did to my rig
 
@mr5 me too, but i still got a lovely golf tho :D
not overly expensive or very nice
but it's got all the bells and whistles I want & goes like shit off a shovel when you put your foot down
 
"it goes like shit off a shovel" is that good or bad
Are you German?
 
mr5
@CaptainSquirrel do you play in golf field?
 
2:59 PM
 
mr5
Why is it called "golf course" instead of "golf field"?
@Freerey is this yours?
 
yus
 
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