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12:00 PM
That's true
that's what i've been trying to do tbh
 
I've written some horrific regex patterns before
But I like it <3
 
Don't get me wrong
it's amazing at what it does
but it melts my head sometimes
God damn im hungry
 
Well I've got a sammich in the fridge
 
hm should i risk it for a biscuit and finish writing this app before i test any of it?
I think I might
It's a good way to see if I've actually progressed as a developer huehuehue
 
Finiish writing it, push it to prod and then go out for lunch. WCGW
 
12:04 PM
saweet
Imma do it
I mean this is only ever going to be ran by me so
and always through visual studio lmao
 
Oh boo
Should have done it with business critical apps
 
impossibru
We have a build and deployment process that's essentially impossible to bypass, even if i wanted to
No more cowboy deployments like at my last place
although to be fair, the deployment itself always went smoothly (because i was the one doing it and always backed up everything), it was the code itself that would go wrong lmao
Software & Release Engineer Devops boi i was
Although my job title was Web Developer lmao
 
we have a formal schedule for when you can push to production
except for when, you know, there are emergencies, which there are often, so really it's like there was no schedule
 
lmao
Every deployment is emergency!!
Tell you what i don't miss from that job
is people who don't know how to fucking read what's infront of them
We had a maintenance page that would display when the system was undergoing updates etc
And i used to get emails and phonecalls even though we'd put an alert at the top of the fucking pages & send an email saying we are doing updates etc at a certain time
And it would always be "is the system down, has it broke etc etc etc"
Rubbed me the wrong way it did
 
here what they want is to establish ground rules like, "no! you can't deploy but once every week or so!" and then these same douchebags show up saying, "Hey, you know that modification I asked you for? Think you could ask around and get it put into production tomorrow?"
like wtf.. either we follow this thing or we don't. don't ask me to bend rules if the rules were important enough to create in the first place
 
12:12 PM
Yeah we had that to
Boss: No Deployments on a Friday
Also Boss: You need to deploy this on a Friday
 
yep
 
I'd always get it in the neck for reminding him of his friday rule too
Well, i say that
but only when he was stressed
Which he generally was if we were breaking the friday rule
cuz game breaking bugs
 
oh yay the profile pics work again
 
My old boss moved the water cooler because it was "a fire hazard"
 
seems legit
 
12:22 PM
nevermind that it had been there for 20+ years and that was our favorite place to gather
 
lmao
He didn't want you's to spend all day gathered around it talking
 
A water cooler being a fire hazard. How?
 
The back of them gets warm in fairness
Only warm though
 
Well I suppose you could argue that it blocks traffic in case of a fire
but that wasn't really the case, the boss was kind of an ass
 
mr5
Cuz water + fire = 🔥
 
12:25 PM
Sounds like he was on a power trip
 
Yuuuuuuuuuuuup
Ok, my app is done
now to test it and find all the stupid bugs i've put in there
 
mr5
In case the fire is coming from a gas stove, you don't actually want to spill it with water though
@CaptainSquirrel is it on Google Play store already!
 
@Neil how many people got fired near the water cooler?
 
mr5
Time to eat evening lunch
 
Booo don't test it
 
12:27 PM
fuck
failed
 
all the stars are from last week. this week sucks.
 
Just have faith it will work and all will be good
Should have had faith. Would have worked
 
oh wow
i should have seen that coming
 
mr5
You need a virgin sacrifice. Quick, grab wirtlol
 
although i would like to know why adding an object into a string didn't give me an error before compiling
aka $"{site}{s}"
 
12:28 PM
@mr5 you mean @harry?
 
site is a string
s is an object
 
mr5
Yeah add harry too
 
sacrifices @mr5 instead
 
But the interpolation should just ToStrign() your object
 
if that's the only issue with this, i'll be happy
it looks that way
 
12:28 PM
@Wietlol to my knowledge, no one
 
mr5
@CaptainSquirrel grabs squirrelcaptains hands instead
 
OH GOD NOOOOOOOOO-
 
mr5
Oops wrong hand
 
mr5
I grabbed avnirs hand
Now hes gone :(
 
12:30 PM
Where is anver :(
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan pls don't die
 
mr5
Abducted by Google
Along with mike+madara+rob
 
hooray I finally got my program to show a much worse, but at least different, error
 
mr5
@CaptainSquirrel the compiler would sneak a .ToString() for every non string interpolation
 
The compiler is a clever boi
 
@AlRey \o/
 
mr5
12:35 PM
Everytime you concatenate a non string to a string, it will be deducted to your social credit
 
oh boy though does anyone else find those Enron commercials super hypnotic? they're clearly ripping off "think different," but they're still amazing
 
mr5
Compiler: this guy is dumb, -1
 
Who is Enron/?
@mr5 thank mr jinping
 
@CaptainObvious they were one of the biggest companies in the US who specialized in electricity and (for like 2 days) broadband
 
Literally never heard of them
 
mr5
12:37 PM
@CaptainObvious Doitashimaishite
 
but they were also run by major accounting frauds and their stock plummeted from $80 to 50 cents in the span of a few months
the only reason you would've heard of them is if you were investing in energy companies in the late 90s or you followed their collapse
or if you lived in California in 2000 during those power outages
 
@AlRey what is a commercial?
 
@CaptainObvious So my app basically works
I just forgot to make the spreadsheet copy if newer
 
"Basically"
So what you mean is
 
hey man, there's no broken code
 
12:42 PM
It doesn't work
 
So to me, that's a win
Just this sneaky devil
 
to the average person, it's probably unusable :D
 
Why does your application have a spreadsheet in it
 
spreadsheet ALL THE THINGS!
 
12:43 PM
because i'm using it as a template so i can make the columns a set width
 
I ahve an application with a spreadsheet in it but it's just to be downloaded as a template for people to upload data into my application
ew
 
without having to piss around with other stupid settings
 
Although at the same time, not a bad plan
 
tbh, i'm just trying to make things easier for the guy who asked me to build this
 
Doing mad formatting in code is a pain in the arse
 
12:44 PM
I'm not even doing any of that
 
What I'll typically do is have a smart interface for inserting data, and I'll wrap that in a dumb and impossible-to-mess-up interface
 
the most amount of formatting i'm doing is this
                int cellCount = 1;
                foreach(var d in data.pages)
                {
                    cellCount = cellCount + 1;
                    sheet.Cells[$"A{cellCount}"].Value = d;
                }
 
that way, improving said interface is simply lending more to the smart interface
 
OH FUCK YOU INDENTS
fixed it :D
 
12:47 PM
stonks?
 
Get on my level
No template used
 
Luckily all im doing is taking sitemap data and putting it into a spreadsheet
 
(mainly because I didn't even think about using a template
 
this proj doesn't need that level of stoof
Using a template is so much easier lmao
what do you use to generate it?
SSPlus (OfficeOpenXML)?
 
Epplus
With just 150 lines I have populated a 4 sheet excel document with data and formatting and all sorts of magical shit
 
12:50 PM
 
Enron in a nutshell
 
And that's 150 lines of VB
 
you still doin vb??
 
I used EPPlus... it is great... I ditched it obviously :D
 
12:54 PM
Aye
 
what did you say this vb project was for?
 
WietPPlus, coming soon
 
nah
I dont give a shit about spreadsheets
I needed the formula parser from it
 
This is (unfortunately) one of the most important applications in the business
 
because some shit 3rd party sends us excel sheets with their calculations
 
12:55 PM
Oh I remember you doing that
 
I use the formula parsing from EPPlus, then generate a special compute model that gets loaded at runtime and does the calculations
 
some client wanted to give us an excel spreadsheet to use as the basis for a batch insertion and I nipped that in the bud real quick
 
I do want to try to use T4 templates (or my own template stuff if T4 appears to be shit) and generate code instead of data... might be a bit faster
 
It's ez
That's what I use it for now
 
12:57 PM
you know how many different variations of the excel format there are?
 
As long as Epplus can read it I don't care
 
if one day they use xls 1998 and then switch to xls 2003, it may no longer work.. or xls and xlsx
also you can merge cells, you can have multiple sheets, you can use formulas
 
@CaptainObvious however, I did clone EPPlus and changed some stuff
it didnt parse everything correctly
 
it is very possible to create a spreadsheet that isn't compatible with what you wrote
 
and it doesnt know about some date functions
 
12:58 PM
@Neil anyone who still uses the binary excel formats should be shot
 
anyone who uses xml excel formats should also be shot
 
@CaptainObvious hey, but you said you accept excel spreadsheets ;)
 
why dont we just shoot every excel user?
 
you've opened that can of worms
 
Yeah, current generation ones
 
1:00 PM
most users don't understand that distinction. hell most users wouldn't understand even if you sat them down and tried to explain it to them
 
We use office2016 or higher, people would have to try to make a binary one
 
@Neil which is why you give them a template and say use this
And reject ANYTHING that doesn't match it
 
fair enough
if microsoft provides a means to do it, then fine
 
Granted, your users will likely still find a way to fuck it up
Like ours did
In that they'd give us a broken spreadsheet
 
1:01 PM
we just eliminate users from the picture
 
If it doesn't import, that's not my problem. If you manage to import a garbage spreadsheet, it won't pass validation so it won't actually be processed
 
....you shoot, kill & bury your users? @Wietlol
 
@Wietlol what do you use for that? glock? semi-automatic?
 
mr5
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@CaptainObvious except for when they pull the "I'm too busy to fix it, can't you just do it?"
I love that
It's like they think we just sit around all day
 
1:02 PM
@CaptainObvious heh, how much of that "isn't your problem" depends very much on how desperate your company is to have that client and how many people there are between you and the client
 
I just say "Look at the instructions screen" or "look at the validation errors"
@Neil luckily for us, we are our only client
 
@Neil That's why working for a company that is it's own client is the best
however it does mean that you have to deal with office politics
 
as in the case with my previous company, I'd have to spend the better half of the day trying to justify why the file they provided doesn't work, which is why I didn't allow spreadsheets at all
 
Since i've been using actual spreadsheets instead of CSVs I'vem had basically no issues
 
oh boy, more regex
this time in powershell
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
1:03 PM
post pattern
or kick
 
@CaptainSquirrel I once had a request to make an overview of all our users, (which is basically a 3-months repeating task), but I got that request on the day they wanted to send out mails to everyone and I was in a few meetings during the morning, so I replied "ye, I will take a look at it this afternoon" and they responded "oh, that is too late, we will do it ourselves then"
I am like "WHY THE ACTUAL FERP DID YOU THEN EVEN ASK ME?!"
 
@Wietlol lmao i love tasks like that
 
@mr5 (g|a|t|c)*a+
 
Can you do this?
Yeah sure, i'll get to it tomorrow
Oh, we need it in an hour and its 3 days work
 
oh it isnt much work
but you cant expect me to be sitting here all day waiting until you send me a request to do something
 
1:05 PM
We can't?
 
but we're programmers.. aren't we all sitting around twiddling our thumbs all day reading e-mail? That's what my mom thinks I do at least
to be fair, we are in a chatroom right now..
 
I spend my days doign regualrly scheduled work until somebody comes along with WAAAAAA MY {x} IS BROKEN
 
But wietlol, this problem i have that isn't documented anywhere needs to be solved right now and is much more important than the work your actual boss has assigned to you
 
Aww there's some nice easy regex in this little section: ([a-zA-z][0-9]{2}-?[0-9]{2})
 
@CaptainSquirrel if I expect something to take more than 5 minutes, I just send them to my lead
:D
I still have to do it eventually, but people think twice before asking me to do something
 
1:08 PM
@Wietlol But it needs to be done right now and i don't have time to go see your lead
Can't you just do it?!
 
no
 
Fine!!!! storms away
 
bye
hehehe
if I always say no, people stop asking me
 
Not sure what [A-z] matches, but probably not what you'd think
 
Ofh fuck
Nice spot
 
1:15 PM
that is what it matches
 
Well it's unlikely it would have been an issue but hey it's fixed nowe
 
1:26 PM
commit comment = "lee is a stupid stupid"
😉
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
pastrami and cheese
 
Bad hans
 
A savage unprovoked attack on a fellow squirrel
 
:D
 
1:32 PM
such atrocities cannot go un-punished!!!
 
Bad hans => bans =>
 
I like having my hmmms back
ALL HAIL JAMESBOT
 
YOU BETRAY ME?!
 
o/
 
1:33 PM
You're shit mate
 
o/
oh no tons of disasters
 
You can't even list commands
Jack, commands
 
seeing as i'm off thursday and friday i'll take a look at jack
and see if i can fix him
 
I'm sure you said that LITERALLY LAST DECADE
 
1:35 PM
in 2010? I doubt that
 
stfu
YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE REPO
YOU COULD FIX HIM
BUT YOU DON'T
 
I have more important things to do though
Like make my house liveable
And watch gossip girl
 
wows
so rood
 
I'm about half way through season 3, and I've been wayching for about 2 weeks so i'll be done soon
 
gdi thinking about pastrami got me hungry and my blood sugar was already going down
 
1:45 PM
Do you somehow feel the sugar in your blood?
 
I feel the sugar crystals hitting each other
scraping together like glass
 
Probably got a monitor for diabeted or somethimgn
 
i just ate a kitkat from japan which our japanese teacher brought with her
with sake taste
it tasted interesting
the kitkat was pink
 
I ate green, which were not wasabi, but something sweet
 
:o
 
1:55 PM
I read about that. Apparently there are all sorts of flavors of kitkats out there
@ntohl I'm guessing that was green tea
 
@Neil yeah. Probably
 
"green" has another meaning here
 
"inexperienced" tea
 
@CaptainObvious yes I have a monitor
I'm seriously gonna have to cut out all sweet stuff that isn't fruit from my diet soon; my bsl is fine, but I'm sick of this gut
 
1:57 PM
 
just drinking water isn't doing it
and going to the gym isn't doing it, either
 
Take drugs. It will solve all of your problems. Or introduce more.
 

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