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12:02 PM
@bradbury9 But ahe wasn't in the MCU. The API is for my MCWhoDb, not a general purpose IMDB proxy.
 
OK, I missread, sorry
 
why would you not make a general purpose IMDB proxy after which you filter MCU related content?
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan How did you scrape? HTTP request + HTML parser or browser automation?
 
@CaptainSquirrel good response
 
@Harry I thought so :D
 
12:10 PM
@RoelvanUden HTTP+Parse. They're simple pages, no scripts or any funny business necessary.
 
also appreciate the move to trash rather than the friendly bin
 
I like websites that use react for example, since you can easily just do an http request and get some content from the html /s
 
@Wietlol First of all, because with the IMDB search quality, the API quality would be crap as well. Secondly, if I made a more general-purpose proxy and then, well, used it more, the chances of being noticed and blocked by IMDB, as well as costing more on my Azure service, are higher.
 
@Harry if it went to the friendly bin, my response wouldn't have made any sense
the whole point of it being in the trash, is that's where the conservatives belong
 
precisely
 
12:14 PM
:D
 
hmm... good point
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Ah right.
 
What if you scraped the actor list of all the mcu movies
stored that data seperately
and then did your searching that way
 
yah but you have to download and extra that
 
12:22 PM
Would it be reasonable doing web scraping to get a google translate service in .netcore or use google cluod translation service?
 
and that takes effort
silly j.doe
 
It would be located on a linux server, poor resources, but I dont want to link it to a specific api key
 
@CaptainSquirrel That's what I do. I have a Load function that scans the "search by keyword" page and loads all actors in movies tagged "marvel cinematic universe".
 
ah i see
 
The query part just queries IMDB to resolve the actor ID, and then searches the internal DB which is keyed by actor ID.
 
12:27 PM
@bradbury9 Use Google Cloud Translation Services. That's the way Google wants you do the interface, scraping is a bannable offense via their TOS.
 
Didnt check the TOS, thanks for the warning
 
Yeah they get super pissy about people abusing the translation service (and some other services)
Protip: If it's a useful service it's probably not actually free
 
@J.Doe Just static downloadable datasets. I can periodically take them and parse them, but A) it's a million times bigger than what I need, and B) only contains the principal actors, not the whole cast list.
I would gladly use a published API for IMDB. I wouldn't even mind paying for it as long as it's reasonable (as in, a couple of bucks a months, for my usage pattern).
But nope.
 
Interestingly it is free up to 500k characters
Even after the 500k characters it's only $20 per million characters
 
It's weird how terrible IMDB is, technologically. I mean, yeah, it started a a bunch of people on Usenet in 1991, and became one of the first meaningful internet companies in 1995, but it's part of freakin' Amazon now. They can improve the search, at least.
But apparently that's not really their main concern.
 
12:30 PM
IMDB has never changed and probably never will
It's probably built on so much legacy code nobody there knows how it works anymore
eBay is the same
 
But what IMDB really has is data. Gigabytes upon gigabytes of yummy, yummy data. If you have their entire dataset, and with Amazon's resources, it really shouldn't be very hard to rebuild the database on top of it.
Hmm. That's actually a pretty good test-case. I'm currently sitting and learning Spark and all sorts of big-data frameworks. The IMDB data sets can be quite a good set of test data to play with.
 
IMDB is one of those services which has an incredible play dataset
 
this heat is unbearable, the clock is not moving
i wonder if the clock died due to the heat
!!Is the clock alive ?
 
@Hans1984 Not a chance
 
damn
 
12:37 PM
One good thing I can say about the heat over here in Israel - you have air-conditioning everywhere.
And good air-conditioning, that can easily handle the heat.
 
we have no Ac, no fan and its a Roof office
no shadow ether
 
You're physically out in the open?
 
hell cant be worse
well atleast not hotter
ye
 
@Hans are you in the UK
 
no, germany
 
12:39 PM
Oh
 
it is too warm
do not like
 
germany,france and spain turned into hell
 
I just saw a lovely tweet from the met office saying tomorrow will be warmer
And thursday warmer again
 
i want to die
 
Thursday is expected to break the July temperature record
And possibly the overall record
 
12:40 PM
i don't even have any shorts i can wear
 
we will all die very soon
hell is coming for us
thats why its getting hotter
 
Grab a laptop and go to work at the nearest shopping mall.
 
devil likes hot weather
 
That's the best place to find air-conditioning, isn't it?
 
all i can ask is
who touched the damn theromostat
 
12:41 PM
I wonder what's happening today
 
What's Gordon Brown doing there?
 
He was a better pm that boris will ever be
 
Apparently he's been chatting shit about Bojo?
Oh wait no
Boris railed Brown for becoming PM in 2007 without a GE
 
im sweating so much , im glued to this desk
it frkng sucks
 
@CaptainObvious LOL
 
12:43 PM
 
We've seen it with Trump, and I've seen it with Netanyahu for years, and Johnson is no different - attempting to catch them at an inconsistency, hypocrisy or outright lies does no good because they don't care, and they're basing their popularity on evoking visceral emotions that aren't affected by any such revelations.
Anyone who would be alarmed by Johnson's hypocrisy there probably already doesn't trust him.
 
Yeah but I don't think we've seen anything like this next level hypocrisy before from one of our leaders
 
Well, you're welcome to join the club. :(
 
unless you count may referring to herself as strong & stable
 
12:46 PM
Yeah but that was just memes
 
Netanyahu in 2008: "[then-PM Olmert] cannot continue as PM when he's under investigation for corruption, even if he hasn't been convicted yet".
Netanyahu in 2018: "So what if I'm under 3 separate investigations for corruption? Only convictions matter".
 
politicians in a nutshell
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Now that's some next level hypocrisy
 
@Hans1984 No, not really. It doesn't have to be. But whenever politicians do that, and people shrug and say "that's politics" and vote for them anyway (or avoid voting for the ones that aren't like that), then yes, they're implicitly approving of this behavior.
 
I dont vote for them
I just blame them
 
12:56 PM
2 hours them home time
!!weather liverpool
 
@CaptainSquirrel Liverpool: 26.34C (299.49K), scattered clouds
 
BUT I HAVE TO WALK IN 26C HEAT
FML
 
lol 26
thats nothing
well maybe for you guys in the UK
UK is not known for hot weather
so I guess 26 is alot
 
i want to die
 
hmmm
just eat harry
hes a poisoned roach
you ll die
 
12:59 PM
that will work
 
!!weather tel aviv
 
26 degree weather is hot now?
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Sorry, I couldn't get the data: city not found
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Tel Aviv: 25C (298.15K), broken clouds
 
Hey, that's... not too bad. What's going on here?
 
!!weather turin
 
1:00 PM
@Neil Turin: 32.2C (305.35K), scattered clouds
 
Weird that other sites say 31C
 
what 298? that is way too cold
 
@Neil 26c is hot for the uk
its 10 more than normal
 
!!weather Utrecht
(ofc, cap is blocking me)
 
well welcome to italy, where not only are the summers scorching hot, THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN AIR CONDITIONING!
 
1:01 PM
Anyone here use Asp.Net identity?
 
Not sure where Cap gets her data. Google, WUnderground and the Israeli meterological service all agree it's 30-31.
!!weather Utrecht
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Utrecht: 31.26C (304.41K), clear sky
 
hmm... I guess ill retry thursday
 
I have a problem because I can't get identity to scaffold with Bootstrap 4. The pages are emitted with glyphicons no matter what I do.
 
Ah, of course. When I search for Tel Aviv, Cap gives me weather data for Rivas, Nicaragua
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan I have a question for you
What is your opinion on the whole israel-palestine situation
 
Apparently because of this place, a hotel in Nicaragua called "Tel Aviv": google.com/maps/place/Tel+Aviv,+Nicaragua/…
@CaptainSquirrel How long have you got? An hour? Five hours? A week?
 
if you had to sum it up in a short sentence/a small paragraph
 
@CaptainSquirrel Everything is terrible and doesn't look like it's getting better.
 
I tried tagging you last night, @CaptainSquirrel
 
1:04 PM
@SeaCharp I saw someone tagged me last night, but i didn't think it was you
 
Twas
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan fair assessment
huh, could have sworn the name was different
@SeaCharp so to elaborate more on what we were talking about yesterday
Can you show me your layout?
 
So @CaptainSquirrel , I open a new project, use Identity for authentication. Scaffold the pages. BAM. They contain glyphicons. No matter what I do.
 
Even weirder, when I downgrade to BS 3, the home page is wacky, and the rest of the pages look fine. Weird because they are the same layout. But that's an aside...
Supposedly the templates were upgraded earlier this year.
 
1:09 PM
bootstrap 4 isn't backwards compatible with bootstrap 3 iirc
Glyphicons just come with Bootstrap
 
That's fine, I don't want to go down that road, it was just an aside..
Bootstrap 4 doesn't come with glyphicons.
It should be using FontAwesome
 
To use fontawesome (iirc you were talking about this yesterday too), you'd need to reference the css file and then try adding the icons via the <i class="fa fa-eye"></i>
for example
huh wierd
oo actually
 
None of the scaffolded pages contain fa classes, they contain glyphicons. So have the scaffold templates been updated or no?
 
iirc the asp.net projects come with bootstrap & glyphicons
I wouldn't think so now that i think more about it
@CaptainObvious next time you are in tesco, get the shortbread chocolate cookies
they are amaze
Same goes for you wizard boi @Harry
 
im on a diet
 
1:13 PM
treat yoself
have one a day
or half a one a day
 
bootstrap already requires so many dependencies and the whole point is ease of use.. why would they not include glyphicons
 
or whatever
 
it just strikes me as a little silly
 
Just get the damn cookies @Harry
 
Supposedly they were updated to BS 4.
https://github.com/aspnet/Scaffolding/pull/856
 
1:15 PM
maybe you have to explicitly select bs4?
 
"There is a new command line flag "bootstrapVersion" (short version "b") which can be used to specify the bootstrap version. If not specified, the default version is used - currently bootstrap 4."
 
wierd
do you have any of the glyphicons files in your project?
 
i dont want the damn cookies
 
Also have you tried directly specifying 4 when you scaffold?
@Harry what kind of 12 year old doesn't like cookies
 
one that wants to lose weight
 
1:19 PM
I use the GUI to scaffold, not command line. There's no option.
I have tried the command line too, but not with the switch. It's supposed to default to BS 4 anyway.
I have made sure to update the emitter tool.
 
@Harry i do too, but get the cookies
 
This seems like such a poor oversight on MS part.
 
they are little square's of deliciousness
 
Furthermore, adding FontAwesome using LibMan (built into VS) and it didn't work at all. Didn't offer me the latest version of FA, and just... failed. I dunno why. Sorry to be vague. Maybe because I installed it in the lib folder instead of the script root?
 
I DONT WANT COOKIES
 
1:23 PM
I've been using a lot of Azure services lately, and it's been a mixed bag of features only configurable in the portal, and features only configurable via the command-line.
 
FOR ONE I DONT LIKE SHORTBREAD
 
WHAT KIND OF MONSTER ARE YOU
 
For Databricks, for instance, the GUI only lets you create KeyVault-based secret scopes (via a page that you have to type the URL to, there's no link), while the CLI only allows you to create local DB-based secret scopes.
 
WHO DOESN'T LIKE SHORTBREAD
 
SHORTBREAD TASTES LIKE TALCUM POWDER WITH SUGAR IN
 
1:24 PM
But at least it lets you see the list of KeyVault scopes you created in the GUI, because the GUI has no option to list scopes.
But yeah, shortbread sucks. It's sweet compacted sand.
 
^^
 
im shocked and appalled
 
at least my taste buds work
 
So can someone try this? Create a new MVC web project, include Identity, scaffold all the identity pages, and check the Index page under profile to see if glyphicons are in there. If they are and you can't get rid of them, enable FontAwesome in the project and get it to work on that page with the checkbox showing for email-confirmed.
Should take 10 minutes, I don't know what I'm doing wrong! ugh.
I wonder if there's a project template I can download with everything done already?
Seems like there should be.
 
1:27 PM
I mean
is there a reason you are using identity?
 
Why not.
?
 
Do you need it for what you are doing?
 
Why recreate the wheel?
 
experience
knowledge
learning
and because you can
 
Yes, I want to start a project that requires authentication, email confirmation, two-factor. It's all built in.
I mean you could program the browser to emit your own dropdown lists if you want, for the knowledge, but that would probably be silly. If you need combobox support it would be better to use built-in support for it, yes? Just an example.
 
1:30 PM
I mean
If you want limited ability to style and manipulate it, sure
 
Actually I did combo-boxes with AJAX toolkit in webforms. I don't know how I'd do it in MVC at all, lol.
Is there an HTML5 thingy?
 
Identity, authentication and authorization are one of the most important places not to reinvent the wheel.
Frankly, I'm amazed at how terrible web security is... everywhere. At banks and Fortune 500 companies and everywhere.
 
Identity is a mess, do not reccomend it
 
I have a couple of acquaintances who started, in recent years, to do some serious work scanning for security vulnerabilities in the wild, so through them I have a glimpse at how terrible it all is: techcrunch.com/2019/03/14/gearbest-orders-exposed
 
user10864482
good morning ppl
 
1:54 PM
I'm standardizing auth at the moment here
it took weeks to make the skeleton code base, so different customers may add their specific needs for the auth
 
Your customers are gonna fuck it up beyond belief
 
Hi
Is there any site where I can get random data?
 
Jay
Not sure what you mean Shad
 
@Shad the classic is Northwind traders
 
@Shad random bits, or just large datasets?
 
1:59 PM
oh you mean northwind database. Don't want database :)
 
Jay
if you mean a database that has stuff in it so you can play, yes there's Northwind
 
large datasets
I just want to practice regex on them
 
Here, I've just taken this for practice: imdb.com/interfaces
Ah, regex. They're a bit big for regex, I think.
 
wow
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan have you ever tried to deny all GDPR thing except very basic here?
it's impossible. I can't open the link without selling my soul
@CaptainObvious I mean the need are coming from the customers, we gone implement them
 
2:18 PM
What i love are sites that are like
We have "Functional" cookies
And they've got like 120 of them and about 95% are tracking cookies
 
mmmm monad cookies
 
Jay
What's sarcasm?
 
That and the site's that give you the choice to accept or reject their cookies
and when you reject them
they continue to ask you
 
@Jay oh I'm sure you don't know what that is
 
every time you go back
 
2:27 PM
@CaptainSquirrel well. That I would expect. If they stored me with the setting what I clicked, it's stored. I don't want that
which I also would like is after rejecting storing everything I could restart any trial times...
I ask them to remove my email from the db, and reregister...
 
@CaptainSquirrel That sounds like all of the local news sites run by newsquest
Like the echo or the globe over here
 
2:56 PM
To be fair, that sounds about right @ntohl
The problem with the trial thing tho
they have to respond within 60 days
so they could remove you on the 59th day
 
Question: where can I find my project's Nuget.Config file, if it's not in any of the directories listed at docs.microsoft.com/en-us/nuget/consume-packages/…?
My project depends on MSTest.TestFramework, which I downloaded with the Nuget package manager. The project builds and runs properly on my local machine. But when I try to build on the remote Team Foundation Server, the build fails with The type or namespace name 'VisualStudio' does not exist in the namespace 'Microsoft' (are you missing an assembly reference?).
I suspect I can fix this by adding a Nuget restore step to the build process, but it wants me to specify the location of the Nuget.Config file.
There is no such file in my project directory, or in any directory up to the drive root, or in C:/program files(x86)/nuget. There is a Nuget.Config file in C:\Users\Kevin\AppData\Roaming\NuGet, but it hasn't been modified since 2016, and it contains no references to any of the nuget packages I've installed.
 
@CaptainSquirrel whenever they say I already expired my trial period I would ask them, than why are you asking for if I accept or reject cookies again.
 
Under GDPR you also have to store data for 5 years sooooooooooo
wait no
i think i have that wrong
 
I can see all of the packages' dlls in [project_root]/packages, but there's no .Config files in there.
 
@CaptainSquirrel is it not 2?
 
3:08 PM
purdy sure its 5
@Kevin are you looking for the packages.config?
 
OH
im thinking of home office regs
 
Or specifically Nuget.config
 
youre meant to store someones data for 2 years after they leave
 
user10864482
@Kevin on-premise tfs or azure devOps?
 
3:16 PM
I think I need nuget.config specifically. When I put packages.config in the text box, the nuget step fails with "you cannot call a method on a null-valued expression" and "the property DirectoryName does not exist or was not found"
 
user10864482
@Kevin what version of tfs are you using?
 
It's an on-premise server. I could walk over and play with it directly if I need to, but mgmt will hassle me if I make a habit of it.
It's tfs 2015, v 12.95.25122.0
 
user10864482
nvm the doc link; doesnt apply to you
 
user10864482
are you aware if your organization plan to upgrade it?
 
Yes, but it's forever trapped in the swamp of bureaucratic gridlock
 
user10864482
3:23 PM
you should see a VSTS task called "NuGet Installer". this should allows you to cjeck your NuGet.config and specify the different package source. You should run this task before you run MSBuild . If you are using the VSTS nuget feed you should need to add the build service account to the feed; docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/devops/artifacts/feeds/…
 
kOe
Hello, Please i want to set my textbox in gridview disabled and enabled when the user wants to edit
 
user10864482
@kOe hello. Could you provide more context?
 
kOe
Of course
I have a gridivew with Textbox, the textbox if loaded with values from database. The user can update this value when he press Edit button. I want to make the textbox Readonly and when he pressed the button Edit it becames editable
is loaded*
 
user10864482
96
A: How to disable textbox from editing?

Austin SalonenYou can set the ReadOnly property to true. Quoth the link: When this property is set to true, the contents of the control cannot be changed by the user at runtime. With this property set to true, you can still set the value of the Text property in code. You can use this feature instead...

 
user10864482
would that answer your question @kOe?
 
kOe
3:31 PM
Unfortunatly No
 
user10864482
@kOe why
 
kOe
i tried it but not working
i tried to do this in rowdatabound and rowediting
i made Textbox.enabled=true in editing and Textbox.enabled=false in rowdatabound
 
user10864482
@kOe it need to be Enabled
 
user10864482
with uppercased E
 
kOe
yes of course
 
user10864482
3:38 PM
@kOe I just ran a test in visual studio
 
user10864482
use tb_example.IsEnabled = false;
 
user10864482
and change tb_example to your textbox name
 
user10864482
my bad. I provided you wrong information in the first place
 
kOe
ok i will try
In GridviewEditing:

var TxtCle=(TextBox)GridviewEq.Rows[e.NewEditindex].FindControl("Cle");

TxtCle=new Textbox();

TxtCle.Enabled=true;



in my GridviewRowDatabound:

var TxtCle=(Textbox)e.Row.FindControl("Cle")

TxtCle=new Textbox();

TxtCle.Enabled=true;
this is not working
 
user10864482
well it's not TxtCle.Enabled=true; but TxtCle.IsEnabled =true;
 
kOe
3:43 PM
in my visual it's not giving me IsEnabled
just Enabled
 
@user23333 I'll keep that in mind. For the time being I found a quick solution. I checked in the packages directory, making sure to include the .dll files. I know it's not best practice to commit binary files to source control, but it's a drop of technical debt in an ocean, so I'm not going to sweat it.
 
user10864482
what is your .net version?
 
user10864482
@Kevin that's what we do to :) I didn't mention it as it feel dirty lol
 
Reminding me that my tfs is on a server physically accessible to me gave me the impetus to actually look at my project references on that box. Thanks for the nudge.
 
user10864482
@kOe what is your supported run time in App.config? I got version="v4.0" sku=".NETFramework,Version=v4.6.1"
 
user10864482
3:47 PM
@Kevin glad I could be of any help
 
The green check mark next to the automated build log is music to my eyes
 
4:06 PM
these last minutes are draggingggg
 
user10864482
4:47 PM
is anyone aware of when AzMan will shift from deprecated to impossible to use?
 
5:21 PM
what is AzMan
the power of google
@user23333 this seems like it might be helpful
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Q: Is Windows Authorization Manager (AzMan) Obsolete? Is it good to use in a new ASP.NET application?

JasonDoes anyone use Windows Authorization Manager (AzMan) anymore for "greenfield" projects? If so, are there any benefits to using the technology in an ASP.NET application as a membership/role provider?

 
user10864482
5:50 PM
@SamuelWakeman !
 
user10864482
we use azman however I'm trying to find tangible information as when will it really be impossible to use and everything I find is kind of vague
 
user10864482
thanks for the link
 
I'm pretty sure AzMan has been deprecated years ago.
> It is deprecated as of Windows Server 2012 R2 and may be removed in subsequent versions.
That's about 5 years ago.
 
user10864482
actually it was enterprise lib that got depreciated in azman. As of now I can confirm azman still work
 
user10864482
but it bother me not to be able to find a proper answer to a simple question
 
5:58 PM
"Works" and "deprecated" are two different things.
For instance, a technology that was deprecated years ago will, not surprisingly, not have many people answering questions about. :)
 
user10864482
well yes but depreciation is the first step toward 'not working anymore', isn't it?
 
Yes. If it works, it works by inertia.
And now, I have a lecture to translate, restructure and time.
 
user10864482
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan but it rely on ldap which attach to active directory, which is on a server, which ... I can't help it, I need to find an answer to that.
 
Xam
8:07 PM
Hello, is someone here?
 
user10864482
8:18 PM
yes, hello
 
Xam
@user23333 hello, do you know about WinForms?
 
user10864482
@Xam I do & enough to tell you to switch to wpf
 
Xam
@user23333 I wish I could :/
 
user10864482
@Xam I empathize your pain. What is the issue you are dealing with?
 
Xam
8:33 PM
@user23333 it's about a combobox. Is it posible to have different bakcolors for the edit control and the dropdown listbox? when I use the backcolor property it changes both inner controls to the same color.
 
user10864482
8:44 PM
@Xam most likely a 'hack' but if you change dropdownstyle to dropdown list, the default control inherit a background color of system (blue) and it have a contour of the specified color in backcolor
 
user10864482
i'm still looking
 
Xam
@user23333 the problem is that the combobox has to be editable.
@user23333 thanks!
Btw, I'm trying using the winapi. There is this message: WM_CTLCOLORLISTBOX, but I don't know exactly how to use it. I guess that I have to subclass the ComboBox control and override its WndProc method, then catch that message, but I don't know what to do next.
 
user10864482
 
user10864482
you could change backcolor on combobox and override DrawItemEvent with a different color when dropdown appear
 
Xam
9:11 PM
@user23333 I'm gonna give it a try. Thank you!
 
user10864482
@Xam no problem, let me know if you want, either way, I'm curious now :)
 
Xam
9:25 PM
@user23333 oh man, it worked. Well, there are a couple things to tweak, but it will help me a lot. Thank you again.
 
posted on July 18, 2019 by Scott Hanselman

I' m a huge fan of .NET Core global tools. I've done a podcast on Global Tools. Just like Node and other platform have globally tools that can be easily and quickly installed and then used in build scripts, CI/CD (Continuous Integration/Continuous Deployment) systems, or just general command line utilities, .NET Global Tools are easily made (by you!) and distributed via NuGet. Some cool exampl

 
user10864482
@Xam I'm glad the solution fitted your needs
 
user10864482
with linux it's possible to set file permission to 'nobody'. Is there an equivalent on windows?
 
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