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3:01 AM
@CaptainObvious it that a paid signing?
 
 
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7:13 AM
Morning o/
 
Hii
 
Morning
 
how u doing guys?
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan did you watch anything @Blizzcon? They opened the free-access panel with a public apology exactly for the reasons we were discussing the other day. And quote J. Allen Brack: "We didn't stand up to the standards we created for ourselves".
Diablo 4 looks awesome thus far, but still 2-3 years ahead for development are very likely so we'll have to wait and see what this is all about.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez It was only cynematics, too soon to say "looks awesome thus far"
 
7:19 AM
No, there was gameplay
 
Agree on the estimate
I have only seen a youtube video with no gameplay
 
Not only gameplay as in "we did some small cuts of gameplay" but actually streamers could play the demo and were showcasing it live.
Rhykker for example (the streamer I watch from time to time) has some gameplay
 
Nice, should check it. Played D3 and liked it
 
also when they presented the features and systems panel they said according to statistics from people playing the demo at Blizzcon, many of them found a world boss.
They showed how you could stagged the boss like a Bloodborne one, so you could for example break their arms and they would no longer use one particular ability.
Stagger*
@bradbury9 Yesterday I started a hardcore character xD
But the game's very casual now, hit level 70 and paragon 300 in 1 afternoon
 
Diablo 4 looks like a Diablo 3 DLC... I'll wait and see how it turns out in terms of gameplay and monetization; let's see if a new cycle of lootboxes and real-life auction house is introduced by the little greedy ActiBlizzard.
 
7:40 AM
love xamarin
apparently
the measurement units
are expressed in units per inch
 
good morning
 
@RoelvanUden I don't think it looks like Diablo 3 at all. No shiny bullshit, bye overpowered items, and welcome back customization.
 
in D2 you could not survive 20 enemy surrounding you.
 
Too soon to tell, but from what I see, I expect to get a Diablo 2 with the combat dynamics of Diablo 3, and the open world events. MTX for cosmetics like in PoE and we're all golden.
 
but the graphics is D3 without modification
 
7:50 AM
And please, sell stash size.
 
@ntohl you could if you were barbarian with enough health
but you'd have to have a tank build specifically for that
 
@ntohl What do you mean? It has about... nothing to do between D3 and D4
Oh and I'm playing Torment 11 at the moment, I keep running into packs of 20 and... well I oneshot them, so obviously there are no chances.
 
@Neil that's one special case. In D3 a witchdoctor would love 20 packs everywhere
 
@Developer00 You will have serious headache on compatibility if px is used over mobile phone app
 
But D2 also had that. I remember having about 70% dodge chance and capped 75% block chance on my amazon, I would get stunlocked in dodge/parry animations to death, mauled by a group of those.
 
7:52 AM
D2 you need a full set, and carefully playing till that
 
stun lock was a real problem
 
Wut
Sets aren't top tier.
 
you couldn't tank without other players
 
@nyconing yeah but % are much better
 
In D2 you want the exact opposite, legendaries, very specific set items, and yellows
 
7:53 AM
I don't really know how to position an image correctly
 
full set is "legendaries, very specific set items, and yellows"
 
I thought dimensions were in DIP
 
Oh I thought you meant something like IK full items.
 
you had to be able to do a baal run with a sorceress with full topaz gear on to be worth your salt
 
7:55 AM
if you had that, you probably had decent items
 
Now, 320upi are 2 inches but what if a device is smaller
 
to be honest, I preferred farming the pits
I got a Tyrael's might once.
low rolls, but still
 
there was something genuinely magical about finding uniques in d2
 
sold it for a BotD weapon
 
I tried to build a decent druid 2-3 times. Couldn't do it. I'm building one at home now
 
7:57 AM
yeeeee
D2 had this feeling of "niiiiice a legendary!!!", in D3 those fall from the sky
 
yeah, I can't put my finger on it but D3 isn't the same
maybe it's because "uniques" are kind of trash in D3
unless they're like top tier
 
D3 is much less hardcore
 
worst thing about D3 is that you can basically switch out your skills at any point
Part of the reward was making a dedicated sorceress or amazon with a specific build in mind
 
Not so sure about that. I mean, D2 you have a sense of commitment, but that also meant a lot of bots to power level your characters, and eventually added a token to respec the character.
 
before the synergy update in d2, it was legit hard af
 
8:00 AM
Because we'd get bored of running all 5 acts, 3 times in a row, the legit way. Eventually it gets too boring, so D3's respec makes testing stuff actually possible.
Heh, true
 
you saw sorceresses with level 1 fireballs at level 29 because they legit didn't want to dedicate more points to anything they wouldn't use later
 
Although I took the easiest path: I had a poison doggo, and then made a meteorb sorc.
 
@Neil Its the RPG part of a so called ARPG
 
because frozen orb was OP pre-synergies.
 
frozen orb was a level 30 spell too
 
8:02 AM
ohayou
 
and yeah, a well-placed frozen orb did a lot of damage
if you could lower spell recharge time, then you could just spam those frozen orbs
 
But then again, that thing wasn't really good online, because people would power level themselves afterwards. First character was designed for fast autoclearing, second character had very delayed spell assignments.
 
personally I was a big fan of the meteor
 
V.7
Hey all
o/
 
Hi, proxy & v7
 
8:05 AM
meteor, frozen orb, hydra, fire mastery, and cold mastery. Boom, easy mode.
10 extra points for prerreqs at level 99
 
hi guys
im new to ASP.NET MVC ... just trying to learn about Entity Framework
 
@HéctorÁlvarez you had to do that for end game runs
 
im using the Database first approach and i have created an EDMX Diagram and related classes
i have learned how to add a new entity to the database.
but im confused about querying the database
there are some code examples that uses ApplicationDbContext ..
but upon trying to use the same .. class could not be found
I have added reference to using System.Data.Entity;
 
or whatever you have called your instance of the datacontext class
 
back then they were selling accounts with like level 99 players with literally none of the skills placed. That was pretty impressive, even considering they had all the muscle they required to level a player up that way
 
8:09 AM
@bradbury9 where is the class created ?
 
goood morning.
 
GM
 
morning
 
Diablo is wrote in C#
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Haven't watched it (haven't played any Blizzard game since 2007), but what does that change, except "we know our rabid fanbase likes hating on Diablo 3, so we'll say that this sin't going to be like Diablo 3"?
 
8:11 AM
Dont think it is, but recently Diablo 4 was anounced
IMHO no game should have the RPG sufix if only has fantasy and character evolution
MMORPG, ARPG
 
@bradbury9 Why not?
 
Those aint real RPG's, one is a cool MMO fantasy game, the other is hack-&-slash
 
So what? As a table-top RPG player, I can make an equally valid claim that games such as Mass Effect, say, or Pillars of Eternity, are certainly not RPGs.
 
A RPG must be linked to a history, and character actions should be able to alter it
 
Using "RPG" to describe computer RPGs is as arbitrary as using it to describe ARPGs.
And MMOs like WoW can certainly be claimed to be more roleplaying oriented than any single-player game.
@bradbury9 An entirely arbitrary definition.
In WoW I play a role, a character I invented, and whose interactions I control and customize much more than in Pillars of Eternity and its prescripted interactions.
 
8:15 AM
The interacion between a plot and the character is key to a RPG
Plus the obvious role playing of a character
 
That's a nice definition, but far from being the only one.
 
"You guys don't have phones?!" -Blizzard
 
Hello! :)
 
Hi Shad
 
And yes, you can say that saying "an RPG is any game in which you control a character and gain levels in a fantasy setting" is a very reductive way to define RPGs, and I agree, but no more reductive than "interaction between plot and character". They all refer to different aspects of that nebulous term called "RPG".
 
8:17 AM
mmoarpg
 
And again, I've often heard the claim that any CRPG isn't really an RPG and should find a different definition. I don't agree with that sort of exclusive definition either.
And inside the tabletop community, I've had any number of discussions where people wanted to insist that game X or game Y "aren't really RPGs" either. *shrug*.
 
When I read the A in a game acronym I translate it into hack-and-slash
Played Diablo3, and liked it, but I would not call it RPG
 
Sure, that's exactly what the A is there for.
ARPG is a sub-genre that's focused on the action, meaning on the twitchy action, the hacking and the slashing.
But hack'n'slash is also part of RPGs. Always has been.
The term RPG doesn't describe just one thing, that's true.
 
D3 NPC have no interaction, only tell the plot. Dont allow the player to role play
 
And it's big enough so you can have two things that fall under "RPG" and are entirely unrelated - say, a turn-based sci-fi JRPG vs. Diablo 3.
 
8:22 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan The problem wasn't Diablo 3 per se, it was the direction the company was taking. Diablo 3 was a big pile of poo, Diablo Immortal being focused as the major game announcement of 2018, the fanbase was spitting on them, period.
 
@bradbury9 Which single-player games do allow you to roleplay? Because choosing from a handful of pre-scripted responses, as I said, can easily be said to not be roleplaying.
 
I have played email based RPG, table RPG, computer RPG
 
And as I said last time, it's not that one game is bad, but rather that they had set a very high standard, and had to comply.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Oh, here, let me point to your fallacy right there -------------------------------------------/
The set a high standard. That's it. They didn't "have to comply". They could try, they could fail. But this phrasing, implying they "owed" the fanbase something, that's where the toxicity leaks in.
 
The mobile version of Diablo anouncement made me laught
 
8:24 AM
Not owed, but a poor release would have consequences.
 
They could have released Diablo 2, won accolades, and then moved on to release only crappy mobile tennis games. They didn't have to do anything.
 
And they couldn't have handled it worse.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez That's fine. Consequences are fine. Losing popularity is fine.
 
Consequences aren't just becoming less notorious, but also earning disrespect.
 
But the reactions of a sizable chunk of the internet are so ridiculously out of proportion. Saying "betrayal" and "a knife in the back" and "spit in the eye" aren't in the realms of "I'm not going to buy a product that doesn't deliver on its promise", but "My entire reason for existing is to play DIablo and you robbed me of my life".
This isn't disrespect. This is insane.
 
8:26 AM
I think you're overreacting xD
 
Agree
 
I mean, if your only reason to live is playing a game you've got bigger issues.
 
Of course that's an exaggeration. You know what also is an exaggeration? When a company decides to publish a product you don't like geared towards a different market segment and you say they betrayed you.
 
only reason to live is playing a many many of game
 
I don't think it's bad to be passionate about what you love, and showing your anger when you're let down is good. As long as it doesn't become harmful for others.
 
8:28 AM
I am thrilled with Cyberpunk 2077, it will release on april, but if does not meet my hype, I will try to get the juice out of it and keep moving
 
My hype derives from really fun table sessions
so could be very different
 
Saying that a company releasing a game that isn't the Diablo you demand is stabbing you in the back is deep into the realm of abusive relationships. Where you say "I love you so much, how dare you not do what I tell you?"
 
15.11.19
 
I'm never hyped for games anymore. Probably because 95% of them fail to deliver.
 
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8:29 AM
What do you think about:

    public static object ShowDialog<T>(string title) where T : BaseViewModel
    {
        var dialog = new Views.DialogWindow
        {
            Title = title,
            DataContext = (BaseViewModel)Activator.CreateInstance(typeof(T))
        };

        return dialog.ShowDialog();
    }

    // Called via ShowDialog<ViewModels.DialogFooViewModel>("Foo");
 
I am hyped for Last Of Us II, so there's that one I'm looking forward to.
 
@bradbury9 I love Cyberpunk as a genre, but I think that it's undergone a huge transition about... 10-15 years ago. When reality caught up and moved on. Now it's no longer a dystopian future, but a dystopian alternate-retro-future, like steampunk.
So I hope that they can do something interesting with the cyberpunk elements that doesn't feel like rehashing 80's gloom, or, alternately, they can lean in to the 80's gloom and retro-futuristic flavor.
@V.7 Please edit the code and use Ctrl-K to format it.
 
@V.7 Generic related dialogs have the problem of different content needing to resize the form
 
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@AvnerShahar-Kashtan I've tried, but it doesn't make it a code for some reason
 
@V.7 Works fine now.
 
8:31 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan It's in the realm of building hype for years and eventually advertising it as "the sequel you always wanted", grabbing people's money, and when the game's released it turns out to be mediocre, and the few good things the game had, they decided to nerf every single one of them until the game was no longer playable. It needed a new director and a whole new expansion to fix that mess, and went so bad as to cancel all further expansions.
 
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@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Are you sure?
 
@V.7 I've written similar functions before many times. It's a good idea to abstract away a lot of the common code that goes into dialogs, including returning dialog results, resizing, etc.
 
V.7
@bradbury9 What about SizeToContent="WidthAndHeight" ?
 
Chances are, though, you'll want an overload that can pass in a pre-instantiated viewmodel. Sometimes you need to pass in parameters to the VM.
 
@V.7 Could work, if you are careful with the layout of the form
 
V.7
8:34 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan You mean something like ShowDialog("Foo", new DialogFoo("Test"))?
 
@V.7 Yeah. You can add it as an optional parameter that will be instantiated if not passed in.
public static object ShowDialog<T>(string title, T viewModel = null) where T : BaseViewModel
{
   viewModel ??= Activator.CreateInstance<T>();
   .
   .
   .
}
 
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@AvnerShahar-Kashtan In my own opinion, they went to far from 80's and did something different than retro.
For example, this is cyberpank for me, imho
 
@V.7 I haven't watched the trailers and cinematics yet. I'll have to see.
 
@V.7 That's very retro 80's, yes. Neuromancer's conception of cyberspace as a three-dimensional intersection of neon lights. A future that... never came to me, was passed by.
 
V.7
8:38 AM
These are something about the creation of electronics and so which was something really new and doesn't need anything more in addition.
 
(Not least because it never made sense, and Gibson wrote Neuromancer on a typewriter and never really understood computers)
 
The Neuromancer book was pretty good, I liked it
 
It's fantastic. I love it, and its sequels. I love the cyberpunk aesthetic and can rant for hours about cyberpunk, the steampunk reaction to it and the families of genres that spawned from both into parallel and unrelated, though confusing, family trees.
 
V.7
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Yup, but he saw the future which might occur. Its pros and cons.
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan +1
 
@V.7 I don't think so. Science fiction isn't really about prediction, and cyberpunk even more so. It's about the present, specifically the 80's in the USA and it's influx of information technology on one hand, decline of industry after the oil crisis and with Japan gaining prominence. It's not about the future, it's about the present, extrapolated. As good sci fi usually is.,
 
V.7
8:43 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Unfortunately, not available in 7.3#
 
@V.7 Simply replace it with viewModel = viewModel ?? Activator.CreateInstance<T>().
 
V.7
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Unexceptional
Why would viewModel = viewModel ?? Activator.CreateInstance(typeof(T)); doesn't work?
Cannot convert object to T
Isn't Activator.CreateInstance(typeof(T)) is the same as Activator.CreateInstance<T>()
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan I love that scifi that does critic abot the actual society.
 
scifi is about how people change to fit the technology
in that sense, it isn't really about the technology, but about the people who live in this world and have to adapt to it
it wouldn't exactly be fair to call it a genre, because it could be any type of story (mystery, action, horror), but just in a future setting
 
There was a short tale from Ray Bradbury about a dude walking on the street, was not about tech, but was an awesome scifi short tale
 
8:52 AM
personally I don't care for scifi where technology is just a prop for lazy writing ("Oh no, we're doomed!" "But wait! I have a teleport button! Let me press it, quickly!")
 
@V.7 The same, exact that it also returns it as T, not as object - you'll have to cast it.
 
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@Neil Reminds me something called "Black mirror" or like that.
 
@bradbury9 he wrote fahrenheit 451 afterall
 
@Neil I strongly disagree. Sci-fi can be in a completely non-future setting but with an element (technology, science, society) changed in an interesting way.
 
I think he knows scifi :P
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan you know what I meant by "future setting".
 
8:54 AM
Despite my nickname, I embraced scifi not with BRadbury, but with A.C. Clarke
 
Star wars is scifi, even if technically it is in the past and in a galaxy far far away
 
Take for instance something like Miracle Day, the fourth season of Torchwood. There's an event, following which nobody dies. Good sci-fi will take that event and extrapolate its effects on society (and it can be as part of a thriller, a mystery, etc, as you say).
@Neil I can make the claim for Star Wars being both scifi and fantasy. And have, before, in front of an audience, at a party, when drunk. :)
 
But I have also read a lot from other scifi golder era authors
 
is there a significant difference betwen scifi and fantasy?
 
I've read a lot of golden/silver age authors. They have a lot of good ideas. Many aren't very good authors. I think the general level of writing has improved drastically when the New Wave writers joined in the late 60's.
 
8:56 AM
My impression is that the only significant difference is that fantasy generally doesn't have technology in it, or it'd be scifi
 
@Neil Usually, yes, especially as it relates to what the story is trying to be.
 
for example?
 
@Neil Not necessarily. Take Urban Fantasy, for instance, a popular subgenre of fantasy that usually takes place in our contemporary world, but with magical elements (think a hidden vampire society, or Hogwarts, etc).
 
Fantasy and scify are close related, there are many books that mix them. Scify has a fantasy component, but it also has more
 
It's certainly fantasy, not sci fi. It doesn't try to take our existing concepts of society and reimagine them with X added or removed. It tries to create an alternative world with different rules.
 
8:57 AM
For example: Theodore Sturgeon in his "I dont have a mouth but I must scream"
 
an "alternative world with different rules" could be an adequate description of a scifi story though
 
Epic/high fantasy, naturally, doesn't try to be applicable to our society at all. It might borrow from medieval/ancient civilizations, but the point is to distance the story from reality.
 
Bad name for sure, in spanish was "No tengo boca I debo gritar"
 
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You should definitely check out "Black mirror" series
 
@bradbury9 Harlan Ellison.
@Neil Only if the different rules were still based on familiar ones, otherwise it isn't very interesting as an exploration of the idea.
 
8:58 AM
Whatever, it is a master`piece
 
I think what makes Harry Potter a fantasy type story is because it has concepts like magic which aren't explained away by technology
 
Yeah, it's a fantastic story. Ellison has many like that, very troubling and unsettling pieces.
 
I ask myself if Harry Potter had been reimagined as a sort of underground cybernetics society using technology to achieve the same things as magic, would it be scifi and not fantasy, and I think the answer to that is yes
 
The revenge of the super powerful AI
 
Not only "not explained away", but also not trying to explain it. Not trying to construct a coherent world and answering "what would happen if we had magic instead of technology". The magic isn't there inthe same role that technology is in scifi.
 
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9:00 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan :47746334 I didn't see all of that "Black mirror" stuff, but read about and that's definitely about sci-fy.
 
But also, just like my earlier comments on RPGs, genres are more than one thing. An action-adventure story that happens to be set in space with lasers is still a sci-fi story, even if it doesn't try to examine the role of technology in society.
 
well nobody expects a detailed explanation of how lasers work in a scifi story
 
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@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Doesn't that depend on time of the action? I.e. current or future(2219)?
 
@Neil There are scifi authors that write books that do match existing science, like Clarke
 
Clarke does a good job at trying to make it seem realistic, like it is something which could very well be a future tech
 
9:04 AM
Why am I downvoted here
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A: Cannot perform runtime binding on a null reference in mvc

ShadThis error happens when you have a ViewBag property being nonexistent in your view. See if there is a typo? or just check for null @if ((ViewBag.DynamicFields == null)

:/
 
I thought the Algebraist had a cool idea on warp gates. Supposedly you couldn't create a warp gate where gravity affects it, and as such, warp gates were always far away from planets and are very difficult to setup
 
I would add your clause to the existing conditions
 
It is kind of the basis for the entire book where space travel is a bit clunky and impractical in many ways
Interestingly, a villain in the book literally charges a warp gate with a ship so massive, that its gravity would destroy the warp gate
 
V.7
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Interesting.
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Although, very much for above suggestion
 
@V.7 That's because you're casting to BaseViewModel but assigning to T.
Why use BaseViewModel? It's a T. You know it's a T. It can't be anything but a T, and a T is a BaseViewModel. Just use T.
 
V.7
9:12 AM
But T is too BaseViewModel
 
@V.7 Sure, you can take the exact same story, set it in the present and have it a techno-thriller, set it in the future, and it's scifi. That's fine.
@V.7 But not the other way around. BaseViewModel isn't T.
 
V.7
Roger that: viewModel = viewModel ?? (T)Activator.CreateInstance(typeof(T));
 
@V.7 Yes, but why not just use CreateInstance<T> which already returns a typed response?
 
lol
 
I'm facing some issues with CachedImage
It always display a small image even after setting WIdthRequest & downsamplewidth
 
V.7
9:21 AM
@Developer00 Try adding ViewBox
 
Does it exists?
 
9:37 AM
\o
 
V.7
o/
 
thanks @bradbury9 :0
 
sorry for the delay I was doing the certification test
Gotta add this to my CV now
 
V.7
Is it possible to set WPF window and some class to be disposable?
 
9:51 AM
By using some work around
I think so
 
V.7
For example, using(viewModel = viewModel ?? (T)Activator.CreateInstance(typeof(T)))
 
@nyconing I didn't notice the sauce thing because I was busy looking at that naming convention
 
Buenos dias
 
Waaait what are you doing
 
You're in for trouble
@V.7 If you implement IDisposable you probably can, but the question is, do you want to?
 
9:54 AM
I mean it looks like he's trying to use reflection to open windows....
 
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@HéctorÁlvarez Why not? The dialog window is just to ask one question and then it might be freed
 
Are you hungry ?
 
@V.7 What do you want the dispose operation to do?
 
@V.7 My guess is your dialog already implements this behavior in its own way, so instead of trying to invent a way to do what you think would be cool, I suggest you try to understand how the control's lifecycle was designed.
 
ahoy in 3
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@CaptainSquirrel
 
9:57 AM
503 Conflicts
 
In simple terms, I don't really believe someone would design a control with a flaw as major as being a memory leak itself.
 
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@AvnerShahar-Kashtan To free up the space of created instances of ViewModel and Window
For example, current is pastecode.xyz/view/26ab8728
 
@V.7 IDisposable is for unmanaged resources. By default, a Window and a ViewModel class don't need to be disposed - they'll be taken care of by the GC.
 
V.7
If we'd added IDisposable to BaseViewModel and wrapped everything to using() in ShowDialog method would that work?
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Is it possible to not rely on GC, but free it manually?
 

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