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Good gosh, room has been dead for 12 hours after Wietlol said bye
 
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mr5
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5:55 AM
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Morning
 
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Q: working with Areas in asp.net core

Ram SinghI am building a website in asp.net core MVC. I have added new area in it. now when i try to use "redirecttoaction" as below: return RedirectToAction("Index", "testing", new { area = "Employer" }, null); it is hitting to the action, but view is not loading. not sure what is changed in ASP.NET C...

please help me
 
Nobody can help you Ram :<
 
ohayou
 
why @Squirrelintraining :(
 
mr5
6:07 AM
@RamSingh if you "inspect element" to your index page, do you see the source code?
 
Hi, is there a need to have an older version of SQL server along with the newer version,
I see some developers install SQL 2008 with 2012, I prefer to have the latest only (2017)
 
@mr5 i got it.. thanks for you reply, i fixed it
 
coooooooooooooooooooooffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ._.
 
6:24 AM
Cornflakes?
 
uncomprehensible groaning nooooooooooooooooooo!
 
mr5
uncontrollable drumming rumbles
 
6:55 AM
indexes are so confusing
 
mr5
are you good at Math @Mathematics?
 
@mr5 I was in school, now I only count expenses
 
mr5
but you're still once was good at Math
so, how did you do it?
No one would ever name their account "Mathematics" confidently if they're not good at Math
 
@mr5 welcome to the internet. Nice to have you here.
 
!!tell Mathematics failsafe
 
7:05 AM
 
morno
 
mr5
What does that equation mean?
 
7:24 AM
it means that e^(i*pi) = -1
 
my manager asked me to make a web service bsed on... well... excel
 
mr5
what is the value of i?
 
is this actually a thing?
@mr5 something log*e*(-1)/pi
 
mr5
maybe he mean, the excel as the primary source of your data?
 
7:27 AM
i think
excel is the one that gets "executed"
there is an excel abomination with calculations in there
 
@mr5 The image URL says it's from Wikipedia, doesn't the page have explanation?
 
the service must put some input values in the excel "file" and make it do its calculations
 
any way how can e^(something) = -1
 
then, the service returns some values in some columns that are the result of those calculations
 
Sharepoint used to have an Excel Calculation Server.
Maybe it's still around.
 
7:29 AM
@mshwf that is pretty interesting...
something = 0? but then... -0?
i dont know... it doesnt look like it makes sense
 
mr5
it clearly says e ^ i x PI = 0 not -1
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan but is it common?
 
Probably not. But "make me a web service based on excel" is probably not the extent of the specifications.
 
mr5
@mshwf I just got it from random answers in math.se
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan the issue is that a third party delivers the excel file
 
7:30 AM
@mr5 it means that if you take 1 and rotate it around the origin by pi radians you get -1.
 
i would prefer some other thing that I can actually execute
but we have to either use that excel file or export it to something useful
 
You have an excel file that you want to programmatically launch, load data and perform its calculations?
 
basically... yes
but i feel the upcoming pain of having this tool run multiple times at the same time
 
mr5
@Linkgoron so is it the definition of cos,sin?
 
7:41 AM
It should be -1
 
or e^(i PI) + 1 = 0
 
For any1 who needs a gouda story
 
@Squirrelintraining I love comments like those
 
Good morning Sharperiños! How's your day?
 
7:44 AM
@Neil Ye, is gouda isnt it
@Squirrelkiller Late at work are we now?
 
Absolutely
 
@mr5 you can derive it from the definition of cos/sin yes.
 
I just gave a presentation about cloud services
in english
Was nice
 
mr5
@Linkgoron how did you know?
 
Finally an opportunity to actually talk in english
 
7:47 AM
@mr5 BSc in CS.
 
@Squirrelkiller I feel sorry for the listners :P
 
mr5
@Linkgoron nice
 
@Squirrel hey they now know what RAID is!
 
Improvements :D
 
Morning
 
mr5
7:56 AM
Redundant Array of Independent Disks?
 
Retarded Array of Independent Disks*
!!failsafe
 
@mr5 I tried goo.gl/6yN2Qu
assuming i is the complex number
 
mr5
@mshwf what's that?
I can't open the link
 
@mr5 Funny because RAID 0 means zero redundancy, for real.
and it has nothing to do with other RAID levels.
Aside from that
Good morning
@Neil WTF deja vu
we talked about this yesterday while you were all talking about →←↑↑ and other Konami codes
 
8:04 AM
@mr5 I tried to approve the equation, i must be the complex number
 
I almost had a breakdown, like how the hell does everyone know all this stuff and I'm here staring like an idiot trying not to look like one?
 
hi
I am trying to convert DateTime to a particular string format
DateTime.Now.ToString("MM/dd/yyyy")
but I get as MM-dd-yyyy
 
Are you sure?
 
I realize this is machine dependent.
 
Buenos dias Hector
 
mr5
8:12 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez I just Google it up lol
 
@Breathing It's not machine dependent. If you exlicitely state a format, you get that format.
 
Guten Morgen Eichhörnchen
 
mr5
@mshwf hmm maybe you can try in wolframalpha?
 
I am not getting lol
 
mr5
ohayou gozaimasu
 
8:13 AM
ganbare
xD
 
mr5
bakeru
 
watashiwa breathing desuka
 
May 5 '16 at 15:17, by BoltClock
THIS ROOM IS OUT OF CONTROL
 
8:14 AM
xD
 
@Breathing It should work...
 
hmm
 
mr5
@Breathing shouldn't it be anata wa?
i rike hotto doggu
 
that's all I learned from animes
 
mr5
all I learned from my GF is bakeru, nanji desuka, baka, bawa wa desu ka
 
8:18 AM
lol
How are you @Squirrelkiller?
 
Great, since my girlfriend woke me up with a cake today :D
 
Lmao, someone just passed some trending tv series, CSI or whatever, they are backtracing a live signal and one of the experts says "I'm going to build an interface in Visual Basic to see if I can find the IP".
 
mr5
Yeah I've seen that video in YT before
I'm not sure if I see it in this chat or in Android
or in C++
 
@Squirrelkiller I had a vision of her standing beside you, smashing a big, three-layer cream cake on your face as you're sleeping.
Might be just me, though.
 
"Let's just put a bunch of technical words together... there, doesn't it sound REALLY cool?!"
 
8:26 AM
hello
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Ok the 3-layer cream part was weird.
 
can someone please help me with a topshelf issue
 
Thank you, internet, for providing all of our visualization needs:
 
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Q: Topshelf - Service did not start in a timely manner

technoIm trying to create a windows service using topshelf.I have managed to successfully create what i want and debug it.I have also managed to install the service using myservice.exe install But upon attempting to launch the service using the service manager i keep getting the following error ...

 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Image not found. Is it me being proxied or did it break for everyone else?
 
8:28 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez or e^(i PI) + 1 = 0
 
haha
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Oddly went through for me..
When normally every image is filtered
 
Why would you start the FileSystemWatch in the constructor and not in the Start() method?
 
PI i = ln(-1) is where we arrived at, which apparently contains the beauty of math...
 
okay
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan i will move the code and check
should i keep the thread
 
8:30 AM
Yeah, that's how it usually works. Start() is called, launches a thread to do whatever it is that the service does, and finishes.
 
okay
also i have noticed that even if i remove the service using the uninstall command
it stays there in the service manager , i have to restart the system to refresh this
 
Have you tried simply closing the Service Manager and restarting it?
It used to be an issue that the ServiceManager itself would prevent the service from being deleted, but closing it would finish the service uninstall process automatically.
 
@Avner perfect morning
 
yes.. it fixes the issue
 
Still not fixed, eh? I last encountered it back in Windows 7.
 
8:35 AM
but i get the same error again
the service did not respond to ....
 
That usually means that hte Start() call never finishes.
 
okay....
well does it occur because of the file system watcher ?
 
Oh, maybe have the thread stored as a class member, not a local variable in the field.
 
okay...
 
Your thread doesn't actually do anything. You could just start the timer in Start().
 
8:41 AM
moving the variable does not fix the issue
is there a need for a separate configuration or something
 
is it possible to remove item from a list that acts as value in a dictionary?
This is how my Dictionary is like
Dictionary<int, List<string>>();
for each instance of int I want to remove an item from the List<string>()
 
@HéctorÁlvarez or e^(i PI) + 1 = 0
 
should I then add it back to the dictionary after removing?
 
:43200192 foreach (var pair in dictionary)
{
    pair.Value.Remove(blah);
}
 
the best way I can think of remove key and add it again
 
8:47 AM
There's no need to re-add, because you're not modifying the dictionary - you're only modifying the mutable list inside it.
 
oh
 
@Neil Is that what you've say the last 3 times?
 
What? No
You're imagining things
 
I believe copy-pasting doens't count as deja vu
 
it does.
Especially if you clipboarded something, then come back to your PC a few days later (because you stayed in bed for 3 days and only used a laptop) and you get nostalgic for whatever was in your clipboard
 
9:02 AM
Does to Mr. Álvarez!
 
> doens't
 
> Does to!
 
My right eyeball exploded
 
My left ballsack to!
 
I can't edit it, it's too late D:
I hate this keyboard.
Typical laptop 15€ shit
One day I'll buy a mechanical keyboard for my workplace.
A blue cherryMX mechanical keyboard.
 
9:04 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server
 
@Squirrelintraining Too*
 
sounds like we would need a dedicated server for this
 
> I never get it right :<
 
I was more looking for a more primitive approach
something you can just execute with code
 
@Squirrel in still remember my 7th grade english teacher. We had a dictation, and she pronounced it toooo to make it obvious. I thought it might be a trap, so I spelled it to. Afterwards I got my ass chewed out because how the hell could I miss such an obvious hint.
 
9:09 AM
> Feels DauT man.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan :) managed to solve the issue by creating separate classes
as documented here
 
mr5
I wish we could embed the clipboard in our thumb to ease sharing memes across devices
 
@Squirrelkiller I had that to
> We can solve any problem by introducing an extra class.
> Except the problem of too many classes.
 
mr5
9:28 AM
What is the proper English for "navigate back"?
 
navigate back
 
mr5
is there any other word?
 
back navigate
return navigate?
return statement?
return;
 
:)
 
mr5
:(
 
9:30 AM
I'm at the end of my fucking rag.
How the fuck do I contact MS support
the free one not the one you paid for.
Like uh
 
mr5
@Lemonade1947 how big is your rag?
 
the ticket thing.
@mr5 It's fucking huge but I've still lost it because I'm so fucked off.
I have unninstalled every one of my plugins. I have reinstalled Visual Studio twice.
 
mr5
why does losing a rag bothering you?
is it an expensive rag?
 
I have no fucking idea what to do at this point.
There is just no explanation for, or way of me conveying the pain of, what I'm currently experiencing with this horrible, cancerous, straight from hell piece of software.
 
mr5
you can play dota for a moment
 
9:32 AM
No I can't. I'm at work.
 
mr5
you can\
trust me
 
@Lemonade1947 So you've finally installed VS, eh?
welcome to the club
 
How do I do it Neil.
How do I live with this pain.
 
mr5
can you please answer this first?
2 mins ago, by mr5
why does losing a rag bothering you?
 
I feel a physical tenseness only previously caused by breaking up with a lover or a family member dying.
@mr5 fuck off I'm not in the mood it.
 
9:34 AM
@Lemonade1947 You can ofcourse... wait... nvm
 
@techno Cool. Not sure why it would fix it, but cool. :)
 
I don't understand what I did to this computer for it to subject me to this kind of fucking harassment.
Also why has no one on the entire fucking internet had the same problem as me.
 
I still have no idea what your pain is though...
 
Fucking tag helpers.
Why don't they work
There's no explanation for it.
 
ow... tag helpers again
 
9:35 AM
Not again
this is the same problem.
 
so what, like intellisense?
 
SO chat is getting angry at me for writing too much.
@Neil Yes
 
there's probably some piece of code causing it, if you reinstalled and everything
even if it isn't clear what it is
 
No it's not.
 
How do you know?
 
9:36 AM
Because the same project works on everyone else's install.
 
I got the solution: Use npp
 
@Lemonade1947 because you have a different cause
 
npp does stupid intellisense but it works :P
 
I'm going to do something I've not done in a very long time.
 
@Squirrelkiller I have a similar solution, but I assume I will be taken for a hippo-crit if I mention it
 
9:36 AM
Because it's, well, just autocomplete
 
Acctually post a question on stack.
 
Let me guess: "Use Kotlin"
 
how would that solve it?
like... for real
 
Dunno, I dont use kotlin
 
I dont mention stuff that is just irrelevant
 
9:37 AM
The difference is that @Squirrelkiller isn't genuinely suggesting that I use NPP. At least I hope not.
 
Hell no, that'd be exhausting
Also, is that a critical Hippo?
 
sort of
 
Kotlin is fun, just like playing the game.
 
kotlin is not fun
 
But some of syntax and default nonnullable may provoke old folks
 
9:39 AM
once you have played it, playing C# is a torture (not just C#, but many more)
 
Kotlin is fun. I have wrote a app all in kotlin.
 
Is it RAII or does the compiler jsut force you to initialize everything?
 
Red Alert II ?
 
Sometime felling that Im writing C# in backward and without ;.
 
long time no see
 
9:42 AM
I ll love Kotlin much more if they has extension method just like C#
 
lol
LOL
LOOOOOOL
@nyconing you mean they dont have them?
 
Resource Aquisition is Initialization. C-Like resources, where you get a resource when you declare it.
int i; // always has a value
object o; // Is null in C#; RAII would initialize it here.
 
or do you mean that you like C#'s versions more?
 
mr5
 
C++ has RAII. You jsut go
MyClass m();
And you got it.
 
9:44 AM
@nyconing I can write a whole book on why Kotlin's extension methods are so much more powerful than C#'s
 
mr5
Does your Chrome supports this kind of feature?
 
@Wietlol Give me an example
 
Okay, you must wanted to say they has it. Back when Im wrote app in Kotlin, they has no extension method.
 
mr5
@Squirrelkiller I don't think that's the definition of RAII
 
@nyconing hmm... that is true, I have no idea when you wrote it
 
9:46 AM
@mr5 Pretty sure it is. Get me a better one!
 
@Squirrelkiller lets consider this example
fun String.IsEmpty(): Boolean
{
	return this.length == 0
}

public static class StringExtensions
{
	public static bool IsEmpty(this string self)
	{
		return self.Length == 0;
	}
}
 
Did they already fixed that ugly ::javaclass reference?
 
this is a simple extension method for a string instance
 
mr5
@Squirrelkiller Well, your definition breaks when someone do this:
{
	MyClass *m = new MyClass();
}
 
it returns if it is empty
in kotlin, you can get rid of the this. qualifier, since, it would look in the scope of the current instance context
and, for that extension method, the instance context is a string instance
secondly, you dont need a special, static, non-nested class
this also opens other possibilities
class Foo
{
	fun Bar.duoMethod()
	{
		this@Foo.iAmAFoo()
		this@Bar.iAmABar()
	}

	fun iAmAFoo() {}
}

class Bar
{
	fun iAmABar() {}
}
aka, instance-scoped extension methods
they have 2 this references
again, this can be inferred, but it is required if you have ambigous references
this will be the smallest-scoped this
aka, the Bar in this example
kotlin also allows extension properties
 
9:52 AM
Technical question here, what does a software architect actually do? I understand what it does mainly is design a product and define the technologies that will be used for it.
 
it also allows extension functions (for example, with lambas)
@Squirrelkiller is that a good enough example?
 
Is there something explicitly related to being a software architect? Something you have to know about?
 
@nyconing depends
 
@HéctorÁlvarez They usually look at the big picture
They imagine how to structure the program, ideally right down to the methods to call
And picking the technologies may not necessarily be their job, but they can do that too
usually the project leader or technical advisor makes the decisions regarding technologies to use
 
mr5
@HéctorÁlvarez uhm they usually are fullstack dev?
 
9:55 AM
@mr5 It doesnt break.
MyClass* m; // makes a pointer, may contain rubish, but you can read the pointer itself and print its value
MyClass* m = new MyClass() // Now its value actually points to an object.
And yes, I like to put the * on the type, since it's a "MyClass-pointer called 'm'", not a "MyClass pointer-m"
 
@nyconing there are subtle differences between each of these
and the ::javaClass is very rare
 
mr5
@Squirrelkiller it's not RAII
 
class MyClass

fun foo()
{
	val cl1: KProperty1<MyClass, Class<MyClass>> = MyClass::javaClass
	val cl2: KClass<MyClass> = MyClass::class
	val cl3: Class<MyClass> = MyClass::class.java
}
 
mr5
because there would be no deallocation in that case
 
Hmmm it looks too easy for the pay checks I'm seeing.
 
9:57 AM
@mr5 it is
 
mr5
As I interpret RAII, you do initialization and you're comfortable the it will auto-deallocate
 
We're talking about 40k pounds
 
MyClass* m; // It's initialized: m contains a value. It Just doesnt point to an object yet.
// But does have a value
 
mr5
10 mins ago, by mr5
{
	MyClass *m = new MyClass();
}
 
C#:
MyClass m // Doesnt contain a value
 
mr5
9:58 AM
My example would produce a dangling pointer
It breaks RAII
 
Oh you mean the other way
 
mr5
As oppose to stack-based allocation
 
Well, dont work with pointers then :P
 
mr5
Well, I think RAII only applies to stack-based allocation, not with pointer types since you manually deallocate it
 
gtg, meeting
 

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