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Bon
8:01 PM
LOL IE was the #1 reason why I focused primarily on developing experience in backend and middleware code, so I'd never be assigned any web dev stuff
I am pretty sure if I had to debug intranet apps on IE6 back then I would be in an asylum today
 
Even with all the niceties these days, Microsoft has a hefty penance-of-sins backlog
 
Bon
Yeah, but these days also you can get past a huge chunk of the testing reliably in other browsers and for the most part expect it to work in IE 10+ as well
 
@Bon I wish I was that lucky :(
my last job I had to support IE6+ and Email html
which is basically ... table tags only
 
Bon
I'll light a candle for you.
 
If nobody has ever gone to a con as ALL THE THINGS guy, I'll be disappointed
 
8:08 PM
part of the reason I couldn't wait to get out of there was that retardation
 
Bon
That's a lady, not a guy!
 
I actually felt the rage building to a point where I was planning to kill someone
 
Really? if you say so
How can you tell?
 
Bon
If you haven't read her stuff before, tons of fun. Poor thing, though she's had a hard time with stuff. hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/06/…
 
@TomW I built an app with my world domination plans
they started with a shotgun and my office
 
8:10 PM
ohh, did not make the connection
 
someone looked over my shoulder one day and was like ... so if you only had 3 shots ... who would you kill here?
 
Bon
Hope HR isn't snooping your connection LOL, wadry
 
How ?
if HR had a problem its me they rang
 
wadry pls (don't shoot me)
 
@wadry should have replied "pff, what kind of pussy-ass shotgun only holds 3?"
 
8:12 PM
@TomW my response was ... you're joking right?
 
Or in XKCD land, "pff, what kind of pussy ass-shotgun only holds 3?"
 
they colleague then said ... yeh but this kill everyone plan is a bit of a joke right?
to which i simply looked at him and smiled
 
Bon
There are some neat old triple barrel shotties. Usually 2x 12ga and 1x midline underneath with 20ga or a rifle cart
 
he promptly left with that freaked out look
 
Scarred for life.
 
Bon
8:13 PM
oh neato, there's some full 12ga x3 ones out there i hadn't seen before
 
@RoelvanUden he was oddly nice to me after that
cant think why
 
So actual development question - my project has a reference to System.Numerics.Financialthat isn't being copied during a publish. Attempting to access the api results in "System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'Financial, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=f34b42cdad7c670b' or one of its dependencies." Thoughts?
 
Bon
CopyLocal set to true?
 
@mikeTheLiar is it compiling correctly?
are all its dependencies up there?
 
@Bon yep
 
@wadry as far as I know
WOMM.
 
Bon
web app, i presume? Do you have an entry for it in your runtime=> assemblyBinding elements in web.config?
If it is there, is the name+namespace, pk token, and versions on any redirects defined properly?
 
@MikeAsdf yeah that's my thinking.
I am sure he just did it to be nice, but yeah....
 
@Bon there is not
 
Bon
Add the binding there and do a redirect from 0.0.0.0 to the current version
 
8:17 PM
Guys is it possible to select multiple columns while grouping by only one column???
 
Bon
also, integrated pipeline for IIS? or classic?
 
I need to do it distinct
 
Bon
obviously, yes, but those multiple columns have to be aggregate types
other than the group by column
 
No they are not aggregate types
 
Bon
assuming we're talking sql
 
8:18 PM
I am talking about linq to sql
Distnct is not working as it should, since its a custom object
 
@Bon Integrated
 
Trying to group it by id, to get distinct
 
@Obviously yup
 
@vwadry How?
 
@Obviously it should if you use a projection and do all the work in SQL
 
Bon
8:20 PM
when using distinct in linq, it is going to make sure objects are the same object, since i assume you're not grouping primitives
so you have to give it a primitive condition to identify dupes
 
var result = db.foos.Select(i => new { ... }).Where(i => ...).Distinct().ToList();
 
Bon
could do nested groupby then orderbydescending for newest record (or whatever is most important) then get first
 
something like that @Obviously
 
Bon
If the objects are nasty complex, I've sometimes defined a dictionary before trying to get my records and loop through them checking for existence or not in that. Not optimal but straightens out the logic and usually shows a clean path to a more optimal implementation
 
is it possible to define an operator override as an extension method
hmmmm ... i guess not :(
fuck it ... i'll just do it as a standard extension method
 
8:38 PM
@wadry seems like these two concepts are fundamentally at odds. How would you call this overloaded operator extension method?
 
@mikeTheLiar var foo = someValue + someOtherValueOfAnotherType
although the framework would need to be einstein to figure out where to look ... so ... good point
 
this just in: nanosilver
 
wow its been years since i actually saw a stack overflow
ok i made a mess of the ram ... oops
allocations on every update ... bad idea
 
Bon
I'll take "sentences you shouldn't here in c# for $500, Alex"
*hear
ruined it all with that typo
 
lol just edit it, ... see
 
8:44 PM
zoom shot, blood-draining horror A stack overflow? After all these years?
 
wut is this sorcery!
 
Bon
I was thinking unsafe operations, pointer manip, not just too much usage, mahbad
 
need to do this more efficiently ...
    camNow = ChunkPosFor(Camera.main.transform.position.ToIntVector3());
    if (CameraChunkPosChanged(camNow))
has to be a better way to determine if the camera moved over a chunk boundary
 
@wadry What are the types involved?
Is this unity stuff?
 
yeh
the cam pos is a vector3 I need something called a nIntVector to determine the chunk atm
I do that by scanning for a child object with the intvector as the chunk ref
 
8:53 PM
nInt!
 
its a really shit way to do this
 
How dare you say nInt to that old compiler?!
 
I should prob use a bounds object or something
 
From the looks of it, the design has issues already. Just go with what you have, or refactor the entire design.
 
and when the cam moves out of a bounds object figure out the new bounds object
@TravisJ Why do you say that?
 
8:55 PM
I should learn unity and make a shitty steam greenlight game to rake in the money of eccentric youtubers.
 
Camera.main.transform.position.ToIntVector3() looks god code.
Too much stuff in one place controlling everything. Not enough separation.
 
@TravisJ yeh that I plan to not use here
 
major brainfart if this is my webAPI method signature what should the JSON look like public string Put([FromBody] List<string> nums) ?
 
@MikeAsdf I smell a NerdCubed video
 
8:57 PM
is the json {
"nums": [
"1001664629",
"1001585392",
"1001003747",
"1001585392",
"1001585392",
"1001028910"
]
}
or is there no keyvalue pair
 
that json has a nums key with an array value
 
{
"nums": [
"1001664629",
"1001585392",
"1001003747",
"1001585392",
"1001585392",
"1001028910"
]
}
so that right
 
[
"1001664629",
"1001585392",
"1001003747",
"1001585392",
"1001585392",
"1001028910"
]
 
oh man
 
public class yourjson
{
    public string[] nums { get; set; }
}
 
8:59 PM
thanks
 
@MikeAsdf genuinely disturbing
 
9:18 PM
@MikeAsdf what_the_fuck_am_i_reading (1).png
 
I have a variable :shouldBeAbleToDownload
Please suggest a bettter name?
sounds uglky
 
allowDownload or downloadAllowed or downloadPermitted
 
canDownload
 
Pick a convention and stick with it, anyway
 
spaces and tabs are the best
thats the convention you should always pick
waits for mute-kick
 
9:31 PM
spaces and tabs?
 
haha
 
also 'mute-kick'? You can't even be wrong right
 
lmao
well, shit
 
I will go by canDownload
 
Yes! I win
 
9:33 PM
@mikeTheLiar which is the important thing, right
 
Actually last time I posted something like that with no context I got banned for half an hour so @TomW is alright
 
i like Toms better
canDownload makes it sound like it'll check network connectivity
 
@SteveG from what I gather I think variable names are the least of Obv's worries
 
Quibbling the definition of 'can' is exactly what we programmers are about
 
lmao
 
user47589
9:34 PM
if you aren't a pedant, you aren't a programmer
3
 
x2
 
Buddy once got faux-irritated with me correcting him...*shakes fist "Pedanticism!!!"*
 
If you are a pendant, you aren't a programmer
 
I gave him this shit-eating grin for a long moment
..."Pedantry"
 
pantry
where the stones go
 
user47589
9:37 PM
i've never understood that expression, "shit eating grin"
 
user47589
how much shit can a grin eat?
 
!!google etymology shit eating grin
 
my English teacher used to keep kangaroo testicles in his drawer, and show them to the class every now and then. Thought I should share that with everybody
 
@Amy ahahaha
 
9:37 PM
lol top results English Language & Usage
 
i've never thought about that
 
!!google problem? gif
 
no
 
9:38 PM
> In Book XXI of his History of Rome, Livy describes a Carthaginian sect of coprophages, the risus faecivorus, or shit-eating grin, being commonly displayed by its adherents.
 
Shut the fuck up Caprica, you're out of your element
 
I am the Walrus
 
user47589
caprica doesn't know shit
 
^ that
 
i think somebody spiked the kool aid in here
 
9:39 PM
ok it's now 22:38, going to try and correct this small feature in the next 15 mins. Leaving me an hour to chill out
fingers crossed
 
i hate those memes: "Shut the fuck up carl!!"
worst memes, the internet ever, ever, fucking created
 
Shut the fuck up Donny
 
Shit @mikeTheLiar I think you got cultured
 
user47589
i thought we banned culture in here
 
@TomW eight year olds, dude
 
9:42 PM
No, like, quoting Livy
 
ok first of all, can anyone see anything obvious wrong with the IsEnabled binding before I spend an hour debugging it:
<Button Grid.Row="3"
                    Grid.Column="1"
                    Width="200"
                    Height="100"
                    HorizontalAlignment="Center"
                    VerticalAlignment="Bottom"
                    Command="{Binding TagRequestCommand}"
                    Content="Send"
                    IsEnabled="{Binding IsValidTagRequest,
                                        Mode=TwoWay}"
                    Style="{StaticResource CustomButtonStyle}" />
and the property
         private bool IsValidTagRequest
        {

            get
            {
                if(SelectedParkDuration != null && RegNumber != string.Empty && SelectedZone.ZoneName != null)
                {
                    return true;
                }

                return  false;
            }

        }
 
@TomW lol I just copied it from english.stackexchange.com/a/29169/51331
 
when I debug the above IsEnabled binding on the button, it's enabled regardless of a selection on any of the values being checked
 
user47589
@Codeman yeah i agree, he really explains the gender pay gap well
 
@BrianJ Your property is private, shouldn't it be public?
 
9:45 PM
where as it should be disabled until each has a value
hmm you are god dam right
it should be public
god bless you
 
user47589
the best kind of right
 
user47589
"god dam" right
 
lol
 
ok still not there
The property is being stepped into when the class loads now,but...
it doesn't when I select values for each of the property values being checked
 
user47589
i don't really know WPF, so this question might be completely off-base
 
user47589
9:49 PM
Your binding is set up as "two way", but your property doesn't have a setter
 
user47589
does that matter?
 
@BrianJ Are you notifying the client that the property has changed with INotifyPropertyChanged?
 
yes, INPC is implemented and working for other props
I think I'm just missing my setter
and also I haven't added the line OnPropChnaged
doh
damm mobile wifi you are such a d**k
with your stupid name, Huawayaweeeya
 
You mean the Humuhumunukunukuapua`a?
 
something like that
 
9:56 PM
the national fish of Hawaii?
 
so unreliable
 
@Squiggle - Aside from hunter13 that is my goto password
 
If it was a life support machine, everyone on it would be dead
 
@TravisJ duly noted.
Travis' default password is "TheNationalFishOfHawaii".
 
wifi is my life support
 
9:58 PM
@BrianJ - The problem is more than likely that it is a LinkSys
 
@BrianJ I had a dev who was being .. talked to by the boss (he screwed up). THe boss said "If this was a life saving piece of software, you'd have killed this guy with your ***ty code". The dev replied "If this was a life saving piece of software you'd have fired me long ago!". Needless to say...
 
user47589
That is not the direction to take your retort.
 
So he got a raise for speaking his mind?
 
Sure , a raise :)
he got a LOT more freedom :)
 
I'm only joking by the way, I think it's amazing that I can even get wifi on a little white bar of soap not connected to anything :)
 
9:59 PM
@RyanTernier Reminds me of the airplane question, trying to find it now
 
Is that a prison reference?
 
Don't drop the wifi?
 
@RyanTernier haha
don't drop that thung tha thung
so what you saying is I should go to work tomorrow, and complain to my boss about my wifi? That he has no control over but make it seem like it's his fault that my mobile wifi is bad because I'm too cheap to buy sky broadband
ok that's enough sillyness, back to dev
to the WPF room I go
 
a gasp falls over the room
 
go where the code leads you
 
10:05 PM
Why does the TFS Build Notifications tray app seem to get stuck and never refresh?
Surely there's a better way
 
@juanvan NEver where the code leads you. Code will lead you to a dark place, filled with unicorns, carrots and someone called @amy. Run from that place, go to the medows, go to the mountains, go to the stream. Begone from that dark place.
 
Begone from my parents' basement
 
Amy is in your parents bedroom!?
 
user47589
lol
 
That a trick question? you are all in my basement
 
user47589
10:09 PM
im in ur basmint, trickin ur questuns
 
i just googled pony escape from basement... my goodness... weird ... internet... vodka....
 
oh yeah, that'll sure produce some results
What was your top result? a fanmade music video for a Andrew WK song?
 
@RyanTernier lol
 
some weird guy peeking over the door at the cartoon pony in chains.
Too many people near my computer to go back there...
 
user47589
giggity
 
10:15 PM
cool idea just came into my head, not sure if I should say it out loud though
 
type it no one will hear you
 
Is it for another fanfiction involving kidnapping, disembowling, and bad puns?
 
woohwhat
 
I'm thinking like a year or two from now, after saving say 6k..taking 3 months off work to move to south east asia or America. and just work on programming apps I want to do or pet projects. With that money you could live comfortably, learn some new tech and coming back to work you would have an extra project on your portfolio so no real gap in my cv.

That might sound bat shit crazy, but just an idea
but that could easily just turn into 3 months of zero programming and lots of drinking
 
21
Q: How do you address the gap on your resume after a self-funded sabbatical?

ReadyToReturnThere are a ton of questions on Programmers.SE about whether or not taking extended time off is a good idea and what to do during that time off to maintain your skill level: Will taking two years off for school in a related field destroy a mid level development career? Can I take a year off wit...

 
10:21 PM
win win either way
:P
good read
 
@MikeAsdf good answer. I find people that have attempted a startup and failed are usually pretty solid in the "getting shit done and writing solid code" department
 
anyone here does mips?
 
user47589
i used MIPS in a college class four years ago. don't remember a thing.
 
@Codeman really? I have an idea for one but I'm not quite ready yet
 
oh im trying to learn it but have trouble. especially with using algorithms in mips
 
10:42 PM
@BrianJ I just don't have the $$ saved to do a startup
 
Yeah startups are really expensive.
You basically need to ensure you can operate on, let's say, an annual budget of $600k for 3 years
 
yeah, screw that, I'll just convince some friendly rich people to do it if I want to. I'd rather buy a house
 
$1.8m gets a fairly nice house
Even in SB you can get a nice 5 bd place for that with a yard
 
@Codeman its okay I just need your credit card details and I'll handle the rest ;)
btw anyone know of any worthwhile freelancer sites for a developer to make some side cash on
 
elance?
 
10:47 PM
looking to give it a try
looks good, thanks
 
@BrianJ lol, you'll be sorely disappointed with my credit limit
also, all freelancer sites are trash. you'll be underbid by people in asia bidding pennies on the dollar for every single project
 
user47589
yup
 
user47589
its a complete waste of time.
 
good freelance work is tough to find. If I was gonna do it in earnest, I'd look for local businesses that have shitty websites or no websites and churn out stuff in templates for relatively cheap
I also use /r/forhire and /r/SeaJobs - both have some decent freelance stuff from time to time
I also know some people that I used to work with that freelance and they toss me stuff sometimes :)
also, I made fried chicken last night and it was delicious and you should all be jealous
 
@Codeman - I went white water rafting on saturday :)
 
10:55 PM
@TravisJ where at?
 
Near Lake Tahoe, Coloma Resort
It was pouring rain and the water temperature was like 44 though lol
 
lol
rafting is fun, I prefer a kayak though
my roommate just texted me "should we get an Amazon Dash button for toilet paper?"
 
lol
 
you know someone is having a shitty day when they text you that.
rimshot
 
Yeah I wasn't in charge of the vehicle choice. They brought these junk inflatable rafts and we just had to deal. A couple of people fell in, they looked like they would have had a good chance at hypothermia.
 
11:15 PM
yeah
well
drowning is the scary part
you fall into cold water, you have a natural gasp reflex
 
11:25 PM
"Good thing programming taught me about oar operators"
 
hah
 
11:46 PM
Hi guys
 

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