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10:01 PM
I wonder about that actually. They say that if you were to see it in person, you'd die, but the morbid part of me want more details than that. How would you die? How long would it take? How much radiation are we talking about and what effect would it have on the human body? etc, etc
 
well did you see raiders of the lost ark?
 
You'd be crushed by a boulder?
 
lol what
 
@mikeTheLiar Aren't there still people being born with "abnormal" body features around nagasaki and hiroshima?
 
10:05 PM
@TravisJ culture that shit and pour it into the oceans by the millions of gallons
Sooner rather than later
 
this scene had the slowest sliding door in history of film
 
Probably
@R593B did you ever read the interview with the guy who survived?
He was a doctor iirc
 
@mikeTheLiar No I haven't, Sounds interesting though where can I find it?
 
The book Hiroshima is fascinating, it recounts six people who survived in the few days following the aftermath. There's also a BBC documentary on Netflix about it.
 
10:08 PM
@R593B this isn't the one that I read but vice.com/read/old-doctor-survived-hiroshima-114-v15n10
 
@TomW - They actually discovered it in the pacific garbage patch.
 
@TravisJ no great surprise
Life...finds a way
 
Supposedly one of the first signs that you're going to die from radiation poisoning is developing really bad breath. Basically your immune system is entirely shot and the bacteria in your mouth just start going crazy.
 
@mikeTheLiar I heard it was being able to taste either metal or sugar for no apparent reason
depending on the person
oh no a sweet taste for no reason is lead poisoning
but the metallic taste is radiation
 
@mikeTheLiar I lived like 1.5kmish from a nuclear powerplant the first 15 years of my life.
Also nice article guy got very lucky.
 
10:11 PM
Smelling burning onions and/or oranges and/or pencil shaving for no reason is a brain tumor IIRC
 
I live about that from a plant that everyone thinks is a nuclear plant but isn't, now
 
grapes is a sign of siezures incoming
 
@R593B there's actually a lot more nuclear power plants than most people realize
 
@mikeTheLiar Do they also use like 5-10m thick walls in the US at those powerplants
My dad worked at the one we lived near they had insane security and insanely thick walls.
 
No idea
 
10:13 PM
 
Fun radiation fact! There's so much granite in Grand Central Station that it would not pass a nuclear power plant safety inspection
 
@R593B I heard they were built to withstand a direct hit from an airliner
 
@TomW but not a tsnumai apparently
 
@TomW Well I was told the same thing , and that they made the round shape at the one I just linked the image from to "bounce" a missile.
 
@mikeTheLiar grumble grumble not actually how it happened grumble
 
user47589
10:16 PM
there's a video of an F-15 or F-16 flying full-speed into the side of a concrete wall like those used at nuclear plants. the fighter disintegrated on impact and barely damaged the wall
 
@Amy yup, saw that
 
I'd hate to be the guy flying the plane
 
He should have his license revoked for that
 
Lmao
 
user47589
Blame the guy who put the wall in his way.
 
10:17 PM
Anyway modern reactors can't meltdown, the reactor vessels are made of a high-temperature alloy that can hold the fuel in a fully molten state indefinitely
OK, so the inside of the reactor can meltdown
 
Ever been inside one?
 
Also, the reactor going critical is a good thing.
That's the whole point.
 
@mikeTheLiar erm.
OK, yes. 'Critical' is the term used to mean 'sustaining a nuclear chain reaction'
That's how power gets out.
 
Saw that in person the water has this cyanblue glow pretty awesome to see.
 
That looks more like a spent fuel pond
Cerenkov radiation
 
10:19 PM
I've always thought Cherenkov blue was such a pretty color.
 
Want me to link the vid? It's in dutch though.
 
So the issue at Fukushima was that the fuel pond circulation pumps lost power and the water overheated and boiled off
There was a guy in here who was actually a consultant called in to advise on how to manage that disaster
 
Didn't they send Asimo inside Fukushima to close some valve or something?
Ah no they didn't
They just were approached for it a lot. Thought I read somewhere they actually send him in.
 
user47589
lol no
 
@R593B I'm pretty sure most of Fukushima is still off limits to robots, the equipment fries due to radiation.
 
10:25 PM
@Sidney Yeah I just stumbled on an article on that.
 
Well according to STALKER all you have to do is keep drinking vodka and you won't get radiation poisoning
 
Not sure where I got the idea from that they did then. Maybe I dreamt it.
 
It seems like a reasonable thing to do; I wouldn't have blamed them for trying. I just can't believe it's too radioactive for robots, my sci-fi training has pegged them as the perfect solution to nuclear issues.
 
Yeah that's pretty nuts. My physicist sense pegs it as orders of magnitude too low
if space probes can tolerate cosmic rays then what's the problem
 
Radiation is limited to the square of distance maybe?
 
10:28 PM
@TomW that's part of why I don't understand why everyone's so eager to go to Mars. Like, I don't understand 1) how we'd get there and 2) how we'd survive
 
However the electronics on space probes are basically made from lego. Radiation-hardened electronics are like 20 years behind, at least, and quite complicated and limited
Space probes still work with memory measured in kB
 
As I understand it (and I totally could be wrong) once you get any significant distance outside the Earth's magnetic field you're pretty much toast
 
Is there a way to create /write to an Embeeded Resource file of a project?
 
@mikeTheLiar yeah so cosmic rays aren't any of the commonly encountered modes of nuclear radiation on earth, they're quite difficult to get rid of
If you put anything in their way it tends to emit more radiation
 
Right, so how are we getting to and surviving on Mars?
Or is the whole thing an elaborate cancer study?
 
10:30 PM
@TomW So if we would find a way to prevent the robots from frying at Fukishima we could possibly get a giant leap for space probes too?
 
I don't have an immediate answer to that. I'm not aware of anything that's especially good at capturing cosmic rays without chucking out more stuff that's only slightly less dangerous
 
It appears the answer would be magnetism, since it keeps is from frying.
 
@R593B I was more thinking that the technology used in space probes should find Fukushima a piece of cake
 
And we can create magnetic fields orders of magnitudes more powerful (although not nearly as large) as the magnetosphere.
 
I assume they're not using that standard of electronics, because they're quite specialised to design and underpowered
 
10:32 PM
From what I've read it basically amounts to 1) select people with a low familial rate of cancer who don't smoke and haven't had too many X-Rays and 2) hide behind the water tank during solar flares
 
@TomW True but if the memory thing is true we should probably find a new material that doesn't fry (Read from the article the wires fried from the robots that entered the pool in fukishima)
 
Which doesn't seem like a rock solid plan to me
To all stupid put all radiation in your asshole
 
I mean wouldn't it be great if we would both find a way to increase memory etc for space probes and make robots radiation proof.
 
I don't know mike, there's an interesting phenomena that astronauts experience. They experience brief flashes of light in one eye. It's speculated to be Cherenkov radiation from cosmic rays reacting with the fluid in there eyes.
(Which is pretty metal)
 
That's a simulation of a cosmic ray proton
Just one. The tracks at the bottom might be 'normal' radiation like free electrons (beta)
But they might not be, in which case they'll strike something else and spew more until they bleed off enough energy that they don't create exotic particles
That's what's striking the electronics in space probes, with nothing to deflect them. That bunch of crap spewing off there has to happen in the casings and whatever and somehow not create so many free charges that it screws up the charges in the components
I'm not sure how many particles the central bright line indicates
 
10:44 PM
It's just...I mean, if airline pilots and flight attendants are at a greater risk for cancer because of all the time they spend at 30k ft, how the fuck are people going to survive being interplanetary for 6-8 months?
 
@mikeTheLiar I suspect the answer is, they aren't. They'll have a short life.
 
That's the piece of information that they aren't telling any of those people who are signing up for a "one-way trip to Mars"
I wonder if there's anything on Space Exploration
 
Ha no way
> One way to reduce astronauts’ exposure to galactic cosmic rays could be to send them to space only during the peak of the sun’s natural 11-year solar cycle. During solar maximum, the sun’s radiation blows counteractively against the cosmic rays streaming in to our solar system, reducing an astronaut’s exposure.
 
Give them really strong sunblock
 
So the most toxic shit coming out of the centre of the sun is preferable to what comes from the dark
 
10:48 PM
That's actually terrifying to think about
 
Some of the particles from deep space have never hit anything since the end of inflation
They've got more or less as much energy as it's possible for a particle to have
 
I feel like there's some sort of Lovecraftian horror story in here somewhere
Fuckin' Reapers and shit man
 
I think I'm going to keep referring to deep space outside the heliopause as the dark
Fucks people up.
 
I also like that the magnetic eddy currents that we get way way outside the solar system where the sun's magnetic field meets the galaxy's magnetic field is called the termination shock
Astrophysicists have a way with words, unlike most physicists
 
10:54 PM
The termination shocker is what I gave Kendall's mom last night
 
@R593B was it you I was talking to about Star Citizen?
 
Yesterday? Yeps
Did you find the 180 degree screens? :o
 
Yes!
aah he doesn't link to any videos from the website
facebook only
hold on, they might be on youtube
 
I am so fucking jealous right now.
He even has the Tab for custom weapon loadouts etc going.
 
Alright, that's a wrap. 6:00 on a Friday, time for a beer.
 
11:00 PM
Yep that's the one
 
Have a good weekend, all
 
@mikeTheLiar o/
 
@mikeTheLiar o/
@R593B + gesture recognition in the cockpit so when your buddy gives you the finger, you see it on his ship model
V2.0 I guess :)
 
Anyone have a premade excel export script?
I am about to make a jquery extension but would rather not :P
I have seen the SO answers but they are meh at best
 
@TomW Now to wait for them to finish the game.
I really hope it does come close to the initial promises.
 
11:06 PM
No? Music on. Code to follow.
 
On the other hand I am scared if it does I wont see a single second of daylight for the rest of my life.
 
That reminds me of AOE for some reason
Is it from AOE?
 
@R593B yes
it came up during some random stuff today
 
Funny that I still remember that sound been years since I played that.
 
11:13 PM
Hello
 
same here. @R593B
 
can I ask a simple question about VS here?
 
fun times. Buddy of mine once destroyed me with an army of those priests. I'm still a little bit pissed about that
 
yes
(AOE makes me think of area of effect)
 
To many mmorpg's for you sir.
 
11:15 PM
hi guys
 
anyway, I suddenly had a brainfart that someone should put a C#/.NET logo on the priest and, if some bad news about Java come up, we should go over to the Java room and post that there.
 
@R593B - Does Destiny count?
 
@scheien made it become a reality and I promised to render the whole thing into a video.
 
I have a probability question......can any one help me on this ? :)
Adam broke his leg while long-jumping. He got admitted in the hospital and is now forced to use a cane. If he accidentally breaks his cane into a triad, what is the probability of forming a scalene triangle with it?
 
@TravisJ Age of Empires
 
11:17 PM
@TravisJ Not sure. Only saw the commercials (Which where most of the budget went sadly, They could've done it so well if they added a good story at release)
 
I downloaded a prj from TFS in VS2015, and with it some nuget packages, still packed in *.nupkg, during compilation it cant find the assembly's. do i have to manually unpack each of them or should VS do that for me (and I messed somehow up)?
 
@nirudyogi how is the scenario relevant to the problem? Also what kind of drugs are you using?
 
he he...i don't do bad things....lol
I am good guy
 
Who said drugs are bad though ;o
 
mmkay
 
11:18 PM
@nirudyogi sure you are...so it's the good stuff, got ya'
 
yeah.... one stupid guy asked this question to pick up the resume...
 
you mean you were interviewed and they asked you that question? @nirudyogi
 
yes.... on a freelance site... to apply the job...i got to answer this question....
 
Wait that question confuses me
 
My answer in that scenario would be something like 'Don't know, you'd need someone who studied probability theory for that, but whoever build that cane needs to do some QA on his products. Also Adam should definetly sue that company. And should probably stop doing long-jumps'
 
11:20 PM
If you already break it into a triad how can it also form into a scalene?
 
I've played a little destiny I suppose
 
@TravisJ Wow, and you didn't find it kind of repetitive ? (That's what I've heard most people say in youtube videos.)
 
@R593B triad does not mean that all 'legs' are the same length IIRC
 
@R593B - The pve is reptitive, but all games are like that for the most part. The pvp is really competitive, and that is what I look for in an online game.
 
@TravisJ Ahh alright. And yeah that's true.
@SteffenWinkler Ah okay not to familiar with the English names of that sort of stuff so only compared the pictures from googling both names :P
 
11:24 PM
@R593B me neither. But I always thought a triad was unspecific to that regard.
 
@SteffenWinkler Apperently we made it into triade
 
wtf. I'm seeing a handful of error logs that indicate a stored procedure was returning only one result set instead of the expected two result sets. But the stored procedure is two simple SELECT statements.
 
@MikeAsdf - Timeouts.
 
Timeouts can cause IDataReader.NextResult() to return false?
Oh wait a fucking second, the data access code isn't just checking that, it's also checking the count
 
was just a guess
Is xml version 1.0 case sensitive?
 
11:37 PM
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Q: Is the XML declaration tag case sensitive?

Frank VI have what is probably a really simple, studid question but I can't find an answer to it anywhere and I need to be pretty sure about this. I have various XML files from various vendors. One of the vendors provide me an XML file with japanese characters in the file. Originally, I was having trou...

oh wait that guy is wondering about the case of the encoding spec
 
4.2. Element and attribute names must be in lower case

XHTML documents must use lower case for all HTML element and attribute names. This difference is necessary because XML is case-sensitive e.g. <li> and <LI> are different tags.
 
"the XML declaration is case sensitive: it may not begin with “<?XML” or any other variant;" --some page from Geocities in 1998 xmlnews.org/docs/xml-basics.html
 
hm
ooh, geocities :D
ah, I can test this actually
 
What I linked was from this : A Reformulation of HTML 4 in XML 1.0 , So not sure if relevant.
 
sigh, yes, it is case sensitive
lamEH
forces me to use innerHTML instead of creating elements
 
11:50 PM
Hello
I've got 3 separate int? fields inside my database in order to save Day, Month and Year. In order to convert it to Date format, should I do it inside Controller or Razor?
 
@NoMore_CodeMaster Controller, as soon as possible. You don't want to deal with that disgusting representation any more than you have to.
 
@KendallFrey I agree with you. There is one small question, I need to convert those int values to Date format, but what if there is a null value for month then I will get an error, correct?
I need to show those dates as this format: dd MMM yyyy
Last week, I did convert some but as soon as I had a null value for Month, I was getting the error message.
 

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