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10:00 PM
@TravisJ Question.
 
Oooh, Answer.
What's next? :P
 
Why would you want to do:

INSERT INTO [Table1] (....) SELECT (...) FROM [Table2] WHERE Id IN SELECT (...) FROM [Table3]
You insert into table 1, from table 2, if the contents of table 3 match table 2?
 
That looks like you are creating a junction table to support a many to many relationship.
 
Table 1 = Archive, Table 2 = Staged Data (From current data source), Table 3 = Current live data.
 
user47589
so its getting the ids from the live data, finding staged data that shares those ids, and inserts those into the archive
 
10:06 PM
Generally a junction table is structured as
CompanyJob
CompanyJobId, CompanyId, JobId
Where a company can have many of the same job, and a the same job can exist at many companies.
 
@Amy I need help understanding how/if freelance developers working on small projects implement microservices, most examples I've seen are Netflix-like companies
this is what I've been struggling to understand over the past few days, clicked every search results on Google out there
 
@anemaria20 - Look at popular nuget packages? For example, automapper perhaps? Or something along those lines?
 
@TravisJ sure I know of AutoMapper, how do you think that connects to this? As far as I'm aware, most definitions of microservices specify the library must always communicate remotely (via REST, RPC) to other components
 
@anemaria20 - I see, then I think my understanding of the term was not accurate.
 
That's the frustrating part, everyone has a different definition of this term
it's like big data back in 2010 :
there was a nice post about this
when you have a vague term, everyone gives a favorable definition to it :)
like if you say something is pretty, everying imagines his/her version of 'pretty'
 
10:16 PM
Yes, I do that
:)
@anemaria20 - How about a content delivery network?
@anemaria20 - Are you addressing implementing the entire microservice, or implementing the consumption of an existing one?
How about either the group that created gravatar, or the process involved in implementing it?
 
@TravisJ @Amy But it never removes or clears the archive, so it would get stupid huge.
 
@Greg - In my opinion that script would only load once to populate a table that didn't exist before, but needs to now exist to facilitate a new relationship. Just musings though.
 
user47589
its an archive. those tend to get stupid hyuuuge
 
There is that too
 
10:32 PM
But the Stored Procedure runs everyday.
So, that code runs everyday.
 
user47589
yeah.
 
So it grows everyday.
 
@TravisJ consumption
 
user47589
i worked with a data warehouse that housed every change, recorded hourly, to every record in their national sales and distribution systems. going back a decade.
 
user47589
it was massive.
 
10:34 PM
I've seen this recent trend of YaaS
providing a microservice for every feature
 
@anemaria20 - So fetching a gravatar based on an md5 email hash would qualify as consuming a microservice right?
 
user management/login, timeline (for social apps), (all kinds of) notifications etc.
 
@Amy Do you use IdentityServer4?
 
no no
 
user47589
it was a microsoft dynamics thing, like ERP. very huge. bring your concerns to your boss and discuss how large it will grow over time. its the business's decision how large they keep the archive.
 
10:36 PM
nobody has a clear scope of the size of the microservice, so I really don't know
in some minds yes, in some, no
 
user47589
i haven't used identityserver, no.
 
i'm researching more about lower-level "microservices"
something like this:
they're taking this idea to the extreme, building your entire app basic features on top of a microservice they own
 
@Amy Ah, trying to get the ins and outs of it as an authentication server that is treated through a webapi.
 
@anemaria20 - I see.
 
user47589
honestly, to me "microservices" is just a buzzword, of Software as a Service taken to its logical extreme.
 
10:40 PM
@anemaria20 - From a dev standpoint, isn't that similar to DLC in games, where there is the default functionality, but in order to expand some aspect of the game or its look you need to purchase an additional feature that applies directly to your account?
 
I would agree a bit @Amy.
 
I'm not sure because here even the default functionality is on top of their microservices
all you do is the frontend SPA/mobile app they own the backend
 
A long time ago I was at a game developers conference, and the then CEO of Blizzard was discussing how introducing in game purchases was going to revolutionize the industry. They termed them "microtranscations". It didn't really seem to fully pan out, but it seems in line with the idea of developing "microservices" to go along with the transactions.
 
user47589
i remember them trying that with diablo 3. it didn't work well.
 
@anemaria20 - Perhaps you could also look at the Azure team at Microsoft, as they tend to offer a large suite of features that seem like they would qualify as microservices.
@Amy - Yeah. Too bad though, I think I made like $600 from the Auction House they set up. Apparently it led to too much real world interference in the game and they removed it.
 
user47589
10:44 PM
yeah
 
yeah
 
user47589
i agree.
 
confirmed
 
user47589
SYN ACK
 
@Amy - What do you think of this comment?
@TravisJ yes, but think about how you compare one name to another. It's not a constant-time operation. CPUs don't do constant-time string comparisons. (And of course in general most objects have multiple properties.) — Pointy 17 mins ago
 
10:46 PM
haha, i actually did research them
and it was funny, YaaS vs. azure was mostly
attacks that the other service wasn't "micro" enough
we're more micro! You're macro!
 
hah
 
user47589
what does he mean by "constant-time" operation?
 
O(1)
 
user47589
lol, megamorphic
 
sounds like a DJ
 
user47589
10:49 PM
i don't remotely understand the question, but find the usage of "megamorphic" hilarious
 
user47589
given that i dont understand the question, i'm going to say i don't understand pointy's comment, either.
 
The conversation is about compilers, specifically V8 in this instance, but also just in general as well. I figured you were an expert because pony and that one js golfing exercise.
 
user47589
not on compilers.
 
Hm, has to go early today
iwatch 2! :D
o/
 

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