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7:00 PM
@ChadRuppert - That's the worst counter argument I've ever heard.
 
@RyanTernier crackers + cheese = good
 
Especially coming from a developer. Laziness is why we do what we do.
 
Hi all, got a question regarding syntax for Generics. Kinda stuck on trying to get a new () to accept a parameter when defining the following:
 
@KendallFrey Yes. In that combination. Sodium = bad. Chlorine = bad. Salt == good
 
public class TransactionBase<TFlowItems, TOperations> : TransactionBase
    where TOperations : FlowOperationBase<TFlowItems>, new(I want my param here)
 
7:00 PM
I can think of worse if you want them. Laziness is good to an extent. its not good for everything. else, why bother writing that code? make someone else do it.
 
@KendallFrey hackers + cheeze = not good
 
@TheRenoRanger You can't.
new() specifies a public parameterless constructor.
 
gutted, thought so. Had a look at MSDN reference for Generics and it didnt seem to accept params
 
with html, you want them to specify MORE than is already there? thats terrible. That's how we end up with the marquee and blink tags
 
7:01 PM
If you need to do that, use interfaces.
 
@ChadRuppert - Are you saying that HTML is better than XAML?
 
@SteveKonves hackers == good; x + cheese == good; therefore: hackers + cheese == good.
 
@KendallFrey cheers. I'll have to re-think that.
 
no where near that. I am not saying that either is better than the other.
 
... they're both markup languages. One is better than the other.
 
7:03 PM
IMO, HTML is fine for documents, but too archaic for applications.
 
@KendallFrey if you have every eaten a hacker with cheeze, you would disagree
 
@KendallFrey Wrong. Replace cheese with bacon and you got it. Not everything + cheese == good. But, everything + bacon == Good^awesome
 
@KendallFrey - What about web applications?
 
web applications with cheese?
 
Imagine writing applications in TeX.
 
7:04 PM
one is not better than the other. they are designed for different purposes.
 
Afternoon, all.
 
Or as one would say... Roses are red, Bacon is red. Poems are hard. Bacon.
 
@ChadRuppert - No they're not.
 
Quick SQL question. It's driving me crazy. What's the SQL keyword for today's date?
 
yes, yes they are
 
7:04 PM
@RyanTernier x + cheese > x Always
 
html was designed for documents. xaml was designed for apps. jeebus.
 
@ChadRuppert - And HTML is being used for Apps
 
html has been USED for apps, but it ws not designed for them.
 
xaml was written to compete with flash, NOT for building apps
 
@ChadRuppert - So a language more like XAML would be better for web applications would it not?
 
7:05 PM
Roses are red. Violets are blue... No they're not. They're fucking purple.
 
xaml was designed for movies? I don't think so.
 
Anyone...?
 
lol Kendall
 
@Ellie - getdate()
 
Thank you
 
7:06 PM
Hello @Ellie Long time no see.
How are you doing?
 
if there was a universal player and it was made as open as html, maybe.
 
ELLIE!!!
 
Hey, @KyleTrauberman. I'm doing alright.
 
the problem is, is that its not. its a closed player, run by a closed company.
 
Lol. Hi, @RyanTernier
 
7:06 PM
Roses are gray. Violets are gray. I'm a dog and I'm colourblind.
 
@ChadRuppert - So basically you're saying let's keep limping along with HTML the way it is.
 
My day just got better, now that @Ellie is here. Shitty weekend full of suicide and misery.
 
@KendallFrey colorblind*
 
@ChadRuppert which is why XAML < flash < HTML/js for accessability
 
@KyleTrauberman Aweee. :)
 
7:07 PM
@Ellie he's canadian, they use 'u' weirdly.
 
My weekend was pretty bad.. Helped a friend with a catering event and pulled my back.
@KyleTrauberman I'm aware. I was being a dick. :P
 
and XAML > flash > html/js for microsoft
 
no, im saying they shouldnt build a specific "grid" tag or layout for html. look how long its taken for even html5 to be released. committees take time. adding more stuff thats not truly necessary just makes it take longer
 
@Ellie Did your mother in law attempt suicide? I think my weekend was shitter.
 
ms gave up on xaml for webapps. silverlight is not living anymore.
 
7:08 PM
@Ellie America thinks that it owns the world.
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@KyleTrauberman Holy crap.
@KendallFrey We do!
 
@ChadRuppert - Grid would have been easy. People already know how table layouts work between browsers. If the argument were purely semantics then they could have just said "Okay, when you want to place data use table, if it's for layout use grid. The layout between them will behave the same."
 
user image
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It wouldn't have been that hard.
 
@Billdr yea saw that. Their shares didn't jump much at all with BB10. On the other hand my stock rose 10% :P
 
7:09 PM
The map of people who speak real english looks something like this:
 
@RyanTernier Woosh?
 
@Ellie We let you think that. Keep thinking that... yes....
 
USA is a social island.
 
@KendallFrey Then go the fuck home.
 
@KendallFrey are you saying italian, chinese, etc. are all more englishy than us americans?
 
7:10 PM
@Billdr I am the fuck at home.
 
@KyleTrauberman And Brazil?
 
@SpencerRuport then propose it to the w3c. I'm sure several people did, and it was dropped. Nothing's stopping you from doing your layouts with tables. go ahead. you will just be laughed at.
 
today i found out microSD has a patent on file names longer than 8 characters that are saved on their cards.
 
@KyleTrauberman Yes, I am saying that.
 
@ShotgunNinja yes, hence the "etc."
 
7:11 PM
@KendallFrey social islands are pretty fun ;)
 
@KyleTrauberman facepalm
 
@RyanTernier :P
 
@RyanTernier I love that. LOVE that.
 
7:12 PM
nationalism?
 
@RyanTernier lol
@klut No, gtfo.
 
YAAUPPP
 
user image
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see i can post xkcd map comics too :)
 
yes, but mine's oneboxed. yours is just an image
you can hover over my image to see the alt text
you can't
so there!
 
7:14 PM
i can hover over anything i want and get an alt text
you can't
 
Magnets.
 
centricism migrates west. first it was europe, now the us, soon its to be china.
 
Application.Exit()
 
I can't wait for our Chinese perfect-English-speaking overlords.
 
7:16 PM
haha
 
don't post all the maps in one link
thats cheating
 
@steve, mistake. :P
 
i think technically the mideast had its shot at centricsim. cradle of civilization and all that
 
The middle east was the center of trade for a long while. Then the crusades happened.
 
thtas what im saying
it migrates west.
 
7:18 PM
went from Iraq/Iran to Italy, to Holland, to Spain, to England, to America, now China. Guess so.
 
They broke it.
why should they fix it?
 
C# CHAT ROOM Y U NO TALK C#
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C# never talks c#
 
7:20 PM
HAHAHA
 
we can talk c# if you want
 
zing
 
look knife.
 
That was funny
 
see? sharp?
 
7:21 PM
C is sharp
 
@JeffRobinson change the topic by asking a question
 
I did ;)
 
I'm with you Jeff. I only load this room when I want to waste time now. It's mostly useless for coding advice.
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I didn't want a giant anus on my screen at work.
 
its good for code arguments though
 
7:22 PM
@KyleTrauberman That wasn't a giant anus. Goatse is a giant anus.
 
whatever
it was still giant
I wouldn't care if I worked from home. (man, I want to work from home so bad)
 
@KendallFrey your first mistake was using goatse as your basis for typical anus size.
 
Jeff, did you have an actual question?
 
What does goatse have to do with a typical anus?
 
typical anus size has to be considered when saying giant anus
 
7:24 PM
Okay, on another note...

I'm making an application for my company's safety department and I'd like it to all be on one screen, rather than opening up 7 to get to what needs to be accessed. How do I do that? I'm playing with panels and visibility now, but it seems a little cumbersome.
 
@Ellie winforms? web based?
 
@Ellie Tabs?
 
"on another note" Would that be C#?
 
7:25 PM
Their all deaaad
 
@BeginnerCoder sudo apt-get install program
 
@Ellie scroll bars?
 
easy done
 
Hahaha so touchy!
 
@KyleTrauberman Winforms
@Billdr Never tried tabs.
 
7:26 PM
pfft. what if you don't have apt?
 
@Ellie Try tabs!
 
take a page out of microsofts book and use tabs
 
Responses will be delayed - at the front desk and fixing bugs in another program right now.
 
sudo apt-get install apt-get
 
this is for you single ppl
 
7:27 PM
@Billdr Okay... Hmm. Not sure where to start.
 
recursiveness
 
*bootstrapping
 
stupid chicken and egg
 
ok
Goodnight, Chat lots
 
@Ellie By dragging the tab control into your design area :p
 
7:28 PM
^ tutorials, etc.
 
Drag and drop UI design retch
 
look! you don't even need to know how to program!
 
@ChadRuppert That's when you end up with what I have right here.
 
Alright, I think I'm good on this room for a while. Later.
 
7:29 PM
yup
 
Guys. my son is turning 1. WTF did the time go?
 
@KyleTrauberman THANK YOU!
 
@Ellie np!
 
@Billdr I wish I could punch you. :P
 
Time does not 'go'. It is merely a dimension.
 
7:30 PM
mine just turned 9. I feel your pain @KyleTrauberman
 
my other kid is turning 5. WTF
 
it just happens. its awful. you turn around and suddenly they are taller and you are older.
 
@Billdr I know that feel bro
 
Oh, that reminds me of something.
 
7:34 PM
Hi!
Can anyone tell me what does OP mean? I always see this in questions.
 
Original Poster
 
Original Post
or that
 
Thanks a lot!
 
or Over Powered
in a game context
 
7:35 PM
How long have you been on the internet?
 
C# room - Attention - rlemon is speaking!!!! I have created the most beautiful useless userscript of all times. gist.github.com/4676005
Adds moustaches to your gravatars
 
haha
tis awesome
except it broke all non-gravatars
 
no
those are still from gravatar - I don't know why it changes atm
working on it
 
yeah,
identicons dont come from gravatar, i think
 
the urls are not incorrect. puzzling.
@KyleTrauberman the url says otherwise
ahhhh
 
7:37 PM
hmm, you're right
 
SO caches them
it appears. i.stack.imgur stuffs. ok easy enough fix.
either way... badass userscript
 
why doesn't @Ellie have a moustache?
 
she hides her mouth
 
ahh
it detects mouths
 
I have no clue
 
7:38 PM
Finally @rlemon can grow facial hair!
 
@KyleTrauberman ?!
 
you don't have a moustache
 
7:39 PM
ohh she does
it's VERY small
 
bahaha
 
its like a hitler stache
 
the moustaches reposition depending on size.
so I make all gravatars 128*128
 
7:40 PM
wow so many c# people have non gravatar images. I will seriously have to not assume this is the case
I LOOK ITALIAN!
 
lol
it puts in on my son's hand
 
@rlemon You look gooood
 
This might be a longshot but has anyone here used XNA before?
 
seriously considers growing a mustache now
 
7:45 PM
@rlemon You probably should.
 
tried - gf hates it... her father has one - so i'm never allowed
 
Bahahahaha
Yup, that avenue has been closed.
 
Guys, ProTip: "Come to daddy!" more often than not is a mood killer; porno has been lying to us all of these years.
 
moustaches on their own too easily look like molestaches or pornstaches.
you need some other facial hair to go along with them
 
@RyanTernier has some badass face candy
 
7:47 PM
@rlemon unless you're gay, then its a turn on.
 
> moustaches are face candy
 
@Caerulius Oh, sure.
 
Moustception?
Stashception?
 
@Kendall I'm trying to get started on game development, but I've been reading everywhere that XNA is dead/dying.
 
Incepstash?
 
7:49 PM
@Caerulius I don't think it's dying, but there are definitely more popular options.
 
Unity?
 
OpenGL >> DirectX IMO
I would consider the underlying technologies
 
@rlemon I'm with you to a certain degree, but frankly XNA is so appealing to me because it will be the instant gratification I've come to expect from android.
4 lines of code gets me a guy moving around a screen, and then building from that doesn't seem so daunting.
 
I don't think there's anything wrong with learning XNA.
 
Do you know about monogame?
I'm thinking that looks like a decent thing to learn maybe instead. At a C#, windows, xbox level it's still just XNA, but it allows easy tweaking to other platforms with the mono framework.
Seems like maybe what I want? But at the same time I'm wary because it's unofficial.
 
7:58 PM
unofficial is sometimes good though.
 
Yeah...I just want to make sure I jump on to whatever's going to be big.
 

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