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but now they have changed the req
Do you have someone who's inside the company?
@ParitoshSingh aha , i get your point :) Actually , I am involved in too many things right now(its good for me in a way) , I am kind of a Domain guy, then the SAP guy, then the automation guy, VBA and pandas whatever suits the data delivery guy and so on..
Someone you can talk with about the environment/culture? If not, perhaps find someone on linkedin who has the "insider scoop" so to speak. Ideally you want to hear how your team works.
VBA? interesting...
@ParitoshSingh Naah. but they rate quite high on Glassdoor
@Dair I dont have a facepalm emoji :P
19:03
@anky_91 oh that sounds just fine, and i believe it. I mean in terms of hiring though, if the people hiring you keep switching requirements during the interview process, it can be an indication of someone not knowing what they actually need.
Which may or may not be a red flag.
@ParitoshSingh Agreed (and I know that a promotion is coming up because of a vacancy) but I cant take that for granted... what if ... so I am terribly confused at this point
Find people who can find insiders for you, or poke random people on linkedin.
yes,, :)
thats one thing
I can speak for the India market, it's really good to be able to get some more info on a potential employer, because the interviewing process may or may not be...ah ... "Deceptive"
So, don't hesitate to just ask around :)
"I know a guy, who knew a guy, that was cousins with a guy who had a neighbor who worked there. He said it was alright"
19:07
@ParitoshSingh do you work for an Indian company?
@ParitoshSingh Sure, thank you :)
@roganjosh Yep yep
@roganjosh you over estimated me. ;)
WhenI was working in Dubai, I was supposed to hire someone in India and I really struggled
@anky_91 I doubt it
@roganjosh Oh interesting! Did you manage to get the right person* eventually? How was the overall experience?
19:11
Terrible. He was sacked in 43 minutes by me
:D
ok
The market size makes it tricky for India. The sheer volume of choices for candidates, and the sheer number of potential companies for candidates to join, make it so it's tougher to find the right guy for you. (At least that's how i think it goes)
talk no more :D
Which makes it so that referrals and known associates are a much safer bet that most companies opt for, thus also making it a much better bet for most candidates seeking a job
He was working remotely and stopped me during his induction to say he had to get a flight
19:12
@roganjosh ehhh.. ummmm....
well then :D
There's an abundance of both good and bad candidates everywhere too of course, so. :P
later on workspace Is it appropriate to terminate an interview because of a flight?
Yes
He set his start date, then booked a flight
oh wait... I think I read that a bit wrong.
He was also in an email trail with our indian office that I got copied into late that basically demanded a $5K laptop and insurance for his whole family
Oh, and wanted relocation
19:17
I think in this case, the perspective that it's a "Dubai" company might have had something to do with it. The general notion is, people in Dubai have a crapton of money to throw around
So, interrupting me to take a flight on his start date that he chose. Nah.
@roganjosh where did he/She apply from?
@anky_91 In terms of region? I don't think I remember tbh
I mean which job board
I have been interviewed from a company , via SO, which said that they provided a relocation , and they sounded reluctant when I appeared for a telephonic
:/ I mean they could have mentioned that they won't
I don't know. HR just passed the CVs on to me and I was given a week to recruit, so it was always going to fail
19:20
Oh, this does remind me now
Which one?
I did clear that hackerearth quiz/test thing after all. :P
@ParitoshSingh
:P
aha
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Nice
Thanks @Dair a good one. :) i can think of applyng this to me soft skill which is pathetic :P
19:53
python loops dont have scopes right?
Got a comment as a reply to a comment of mine, and it's confusing me. afaik there's no scoping in python loops, and im not sure what the reply is trying to say.
@ParitoshSingh Correct. But list comps, etc do.
alright thanks. In this case the code in question was a simple for loop
That definitely does not create a new scope.
And in Python 2, list comps run in the surrounding scope, but gen exps do create a scope. I can't remember what dict & set comps do in Python 2.
Hey, you're right I started with P ∧ ¬P and derived Python has scoped for loops.
ah yikes
I better not start with P ∧ ¬P then
I have a question about google play books
may I ask?
Go ahead, feel free to just ask directly.
Note that this being a python room, the question may not be a good fit for here. In that case, people will say so.
I uploaded a book in google play/books ,, but when I search for the book in the search field I donot find it there? any idea about that?
20:35
rbrb folks. good night
good night man
@senshinakamora was the book deleted by google?
ok. I've got nothing
but I want that the book I uploaded to be seen for all users when they search in google play/books
20:46
oh you uploaded it...
i need more coffee
do you know if there is something more I have to do to make the book seen for all
nope gl.
I uploaded it yes in my google play book
but it is just me who can see the book but not the other people
cabbage
Have a question that's been kicking my behind today.
It might be a bit long for chat, if it is I'll delete and post on main
    def get():
        return 'You got got'

    d = {'get': get}


# I basically want to go from ^ that dictionary to the following class

    class Dynamic(ParentClass):
        @staticmethod
        def get():
            return 'You got got'

# The only way I can get to work currently is a pretty hacky wrapper function.  Am I missing something obvious?

    def _wraps_class(methods):
        class Dynamic(ParentClass):
            pass

        for method, method_fn in methods.items():
            setattr(Dynamic, method, staticmethod(method_fn))
21:01
How are you using Dynamic because that works for me. d['get']() == Dynamic.get()
I believe I asked them to consider accepting it so that future users with the same issue know what to do :)

I'll use the link now, I only did it because in both the instances, the account was new.
@Peilonrayz it work fine, just feels like there should be a better way
@user3483203 To note I didn't use _wraps_class.
21:25
Ah I guess I wasn't clear. I don't want to have to explicitly define that class for every dictionary, I want to have something that turns many dictionaries into many classes. That's the purpose of _wraps_class
21:46
@senshinakamora no, please don't ask questions that have nothing to do with python. Cc. @ParitoshSingh
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