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00:58
It's Android, but if you wanna hang out come join me
 
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02:14
cbg all
 
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04:18
recbg
 
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05:54
Hi, is it possible to initialize a class as a Process? If so how can I call the class's methods after I've assigned it to a Process object
06:15
Not sure what "initialize a class as a Process" means. Does that mean "Create an instance of the Process class"?
06:29
I've got a rather strange optimization problem. I have some groups of divisors and factors from which I need to pick the combination that's closest to (but not larger than) a target value:
input:
target = 1234
divisors = {'a': [1, 2], 'b': [10, 100]}
factors = {'c': [5, 20]}

desired output: integers a, b, c so that
factors[c] / divisors[a] / divisors[b] is less than, but as close as possible to `target` (1234)
Is there a smart way to do this or do I have to loop through all the combinations? FWIW, the numbers in each group ([1, 2], [10, 100], [5, 20]) are sorted
Whoops, that should've been factors['c'][c] / divisors['a'][a] / divisors['b'][b]
06:47
@Aran-Fey what would this do: p = multiprocessing.Process(target=MyClass(), args=(one, two))
That would create an instance of MyClass, and would then create a process that calls that instance with the arguments (one, two)
basically like obj = MyClass(); obj(one, two)
How can I get the resulting instance?
Save it in a variable before you pass it to Process?
 
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08:39
The quality of your duplicates is staggering. Such an awful, unclear question. No downvotes. Not closed.
s/your/our/
09:11
Hi all. I'm having trouble understanding why I can't access the modules of the "ampy" package ( https://github.com/adafruit/ampy )

I've installed it with `pip install ampy`, but I'm not allowed to do `import ampy.files`. When reading around in various topics on Stackoverflow I can't find a way packages should be able to hide submodules - everyone just recommends naming them with an underscore. Why am I not able to access the submodules in this case then?
(I'm using Python 3)
@Dybber You're using the wrong ampy
pypi.org/project/ampy/#history vs pip3 install adafruit-ampy
Oh, that's why I couldn't make sense of it. Thank you! :)
you're welcome
reject edit please (bad tag), I want to better it much more - stackoverflow.com/questions/52943642/…
thanks
@shad0w_wa1k3r if you want to edit anyway you can press "reject and edit" that will single-handedly reject
I know, too late :-p
09:27
@Aran-Fey there's definitely a smart way, I just don't know what
Something about dynamical programming? Or just math
You should probably precompute the possible denominators
Right, and then for each numerator you can find the optimal denominator (binary search?)
Interesting idea
Cabbage
@Aran-Fey I was going to suggest basically the same thing. How big are these lists? With that example you're not going to get close to target.
Let's see... there'll probably be about 5-10 elements per list
09:41
That's O(Na log(Nb*Nc)), right?
Unless the number of combinations is huge, or you're doing this in a loop, there's probably not much point spending time on further optimizations.
But there'll also be lots of duplicates, so there should be significantly less than 10^n combinations
With 5-10 per list I'd be tempted to just bruteforce
or how many lists are there?
Realistically there shouldn't be more than 3 lists
Another option: vectorize with numpy. Generate all numbers and find closest lower
09:44
Is there just a single factors list? Are you testing lots of targets against the same divisors lists?
np.array(as)[:,None,None]/np.array(bs)[:,None]/np.array(cs) -> check <= target -> argmin
(More or less)
@PM2Ring There could be any number of factor lists, but 99% of the time there'll only be 1, and 0.9% of the time there'll be 2.
And I won't be re-using the same divisors multiple times, no
(i.e. I won't pair the same divisors dict with a different factors dict)
@Aran-Fey Oh, ok. In that case, there's no benefit in pre-computing all the divisors combinations.
Here an answer that doesn't begin to answer... stackoverflow.com/questions/7588511/…
All Most of the answers are like that...
@AnttiHaapala Amber's answer there is rather unhelpful too. I guess that was from when she was still new to SO. Or maybe she just didn't want to do all the OP's work for them.
Although, timezone issue is a tricky one
Timezones are tricky, but not relevant when you're using .utcnow
uhm, forgot that part.
This SO UI is troubling me today (incident 2/n) Can't un-upvote a comment :/
I'm surprised there's no regex replace answer in there.
10:04
@shad0w_wa1k3r Flag it as obsolete. ;)
can't do that, it can be viewed as an additional ask, instead of being wrong. Talking about this stackoverflow.com/questions/7588511/…
10:16
@shad0w_wa1k3r Ah, right.
@AndrasDeak Thanks, but where to find a tl;dr on last week's events, I was unaware of any of that happening? other than reading all the Medium and Twitter thread, which I'm doing now
there's no "other than"; that's all it
well, and the meta posts, but I think I linked those too
perhaps the original HNQ post wasn't linked, that's meta.stackexchange.com/questions/316934/…
Successfully implemented my algorithm... I guess?
>>> (Bytes / Seconds / Seconds)(12345)
1.066608 GB/d/sec
Good enough
/seconds/seconds?
it's acceleration!
10:35
@AndrasDeak Yes, that's the missing link. Looking at the Tweets, I couldn't figure out which site (IPS.SE?) and which specific question on IPS were at issue.
are you reverse engineering microsoft's "... time left" algorithm?
Now, I'm working on an upgrade. Have you ever seen it display your download speed in gigabytes per day?
probably not, but I don't use windows ;)
s/now/no/ ughh
we should say it in English, as "nöü", perhaps we'd mistype that less :D
10:42
@smci You can see the IPS question titles in the Twitter links here chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/44344806#44344806
thät'd önly increäse the likelihööd öf typös, since I üse än english keyböärd läyöüt :D
so do I
@PM2Ring Thanks for filling me in.
@vaultah I'm also blocked now. Mostly due to the fact that Twitter does notify you if someone liked a tweet which was in a reply to you.
So, maybe I sent a couple notifications their way and they got annoyed. Someone doesn't know how to Twitter (verified handle, moderately large following?).
And Twitter isn't even like Facebook where replies / posts to you go on your "wall", so the "go away" was totally uncalled for.
11:14
@AnttiHaapala Thanks.
Hello Folks,
So, I have been searching the net for a while to get the gettimeofday() function
which gives me the seconds and microseconds fileds
*fields
is there anything similar ?
I assume that the cmp microcode is pretty similar to sub. If you do the subtraction from MSB to LSB you could bail out early, but I suspect that it uses an algorithm that works in parallel.
@Arunmu datetime.now
@PM2Ring (facepalm)
Thanks!!.. I missed that the last value is in microseconds
Wow - When did this community become so toxic. :-(

I come to an unanswered question where the guy is asking how to do something, but he is taking a bad approach.

I try explain in an answer why the approach is wrong, and suggest better approaches. I then get told the the comments that my answer is too similar to a another answer, and I should just tell the question questioner "No"
that doesn't inherently sound "toxic"
They can easily be right. Question is how they're phrasing their criticism.
11:26
Yhea - ok, I guess so. It was just a bit demoralizing for me.
I can understand that, and I'm sorry :)
but a lot of people spend a lot of effort on questions that shouldn't be answered
For what it's worth, I was at least thanked by the questioner. My answer still got -2 votes :(
that's peer pressure for you
@GaryvanderMerwe This question? stackoverflow.com/questions/52947223/… Had the OP made the edit when you submitted your answer? It's a classic "variable variables" XY problem.
Unsurprisingly, neither of the existing answers solves the OP's problem
11:44
@PM2Ring Yes - that is the question. No - he had not made the edit when I answered.
/me reads xyproblem.info
@Aran-Fey typo: unitiliziated -> uninitialised ?
Yup, thanks
I clearly shouldn't be allowed to handle a keyboard today
ünititilizititated
11:59
@GaryvanderMerwe There's some helpful info in your answer, but it doesn't discuss his list of undefined names, and it doesn't actually solve his problem. But I don't think it deserves 2 downvotes.
12:51
cbg
Oh wait, I could just do that.
hi guys i have one doubt
How to set up Google G-Suite as your SAML Identity Provider
@RaguvaranR How is that a Python question?
They also posted it in Java and PHP rooms
Language does not matter. Google is common to all program language
13:05
TIL vaultah hangs out in the Java and PHP rooms
At least he doesn't hang out in the Perl room (or does he?)
@Aran-Fey nah, I just opened Raguvaran's profile
Ah, I never clicked that before!
Hi
how can I iterate over zip(x,y) and get only 1 answer
for example i have this code
for i,j in zip(pyBatch,npBatch):
if i != j:
    print("no mismatches found")
Take a look at all and any
13:09
oo right ok
i tried any(i != j): but got error
how would be the right way to use it ?
any(i != j for i, j in zip(pyBatch, npBatch))
If those are lists, you can just test if pyBatch == npBatch
morning cbg
cbg-eh @idjaw
@PaulMcG except sublists
13:13
yes but I want to get the values that aren't equal
@Aran-Fey thank you
That doesn't sound like "get only 1 answer" - maybe show us a sample of two lists, and what the desired result would look like
But good guessing to @Aran-Fey
@PaulMcG Problem solved, thank you too
@PaulMcG these kinds of problems are pretty common, e.g.
for x in y:
    if x:
        result = True
    else:
        result = False
too broad stackoverflow.com/questions/52949871/clean-an-unformatted-json Unless someone wants to write a parser for that horrible mess... ;)
@Aran-Fey result = bool(x) is more compact, and avoids the if test...
I think Aran was referring to a common mistake
13:20
Better example:
for passw in password_list:
    if passw == password:
        print("You're now logged in")
    else:
        print("Incorrect password!")
@PM2Ring Oof, that's awful, even after fixing the formatting
I think you're allowed to punch people who write code that produces output like that. — PM 2Ring 53 secs ago
^^
Chances are the OP wrote that code :P
@Aran-Fey Ah, got it. Yes, that's a pretty common mistake.
13:25
Maybe so. But, doesn't hurt to ask. Also, for the most part the comments were not necessarily helpful. Granted, the OP didn't really provide adequate information. At the very least we can try to pick once or twice to get some info.
@Aran-Fey Indeed, and if he tells me that, I'll tell him to punch himself twice. :D
how unwelcoming
repent. Two punches and a hail Guido
@AndrasDeak do you want some of this too?
I'm fine, thanks
@AndrasDeak That is the welcoming version. ;)
13:30
recbg
Jul 15 '16 at 14:32, by PM 2Ring
Ok. That's slightly simpler. However, I think your best option is to track down the person who generated that horrible non-JSON and stab them. :)
May 7 at 17:58, by PM 2Ring
@RobertSmith I think you're legally allowed to stab people who create 100 GB JSON files. ;)
^ They're the not so welcoming versions. :)
I'm told this function doesn't work as expected on "macOS" - any thoughts?
pyclean () {
    find . -regex '^.*\(__pycache__\|\.py[co]\)$' -delete
}
Speaking of 100GB json files: I recently almost crashed my PC my accidentally requesting 7 gigabytes of data from the github API. Shortly thereafter, the github downtime happened. Coincidence? I hope so.
(usage: call this shell function from working directory to clean up compiled Python files)
@Aran-Fey Me too.
13:38
I would be surprised if find behaves differently on Mac, but I can't completely rule out that possibility because I'm not a command-line power-user
I'll ask the unix peoples...
maybe I'm leaving out an extension (like .pyd?)
I don't think you want to delete those :D
13:51
\o cbg
@AaronHall Don't have my mac on me right now, but I do have a command that works great on all platforms I have been using. I'm trying to pull it up. Couple minutes.
@AaronHall ask for an MCVE
oh is this for a SO question?
Doesn't matter :P
"They said it doesn't work"
it's for a comment on an answer.
14:00
@Aran-Fey I wouldn't be that surprised. find does have some variation across Unix versions, and Mac commands are often different to the GNU variants.
@AaronHall Good idea. Some of the U&L regulars have encyclopedic knowledge of the variations in behaviour of the standard commands. Eg, Stéphane Chazelas (the Shellshock dude) never ceases to amaze me with the depth & breadth of his Unix knowledge.
14:17
Well, surprisingly, this is near identical to what I was looking for locally:
@AaronHall ^^
14:38
morning cabbage
morning coleslaw
@idjaw I critique that approach in my answer here: stackoverflow.com/a/41386937/541136
@AaronHall hmm. fair. Makes sense.
According to the comment, either bsd find doesn't support the usage, there's a bug in the command, or the commenter is mistaken...
14:47
just got my laptop
hold up
I'm inclined to think the latter... but I'm not going to flag it until I've done due diligence...
@AaronHall It "runs" but it doesn't clean anything.
try a trivial regex in an example dir
@idjaw it doesn't respect the -delete flag? sigh
ok, I'll update my answer and thank the commenter.
Keep in mind the MacOSX find is most likely the BSD find, which most likely has differences than what is on your run-of-the-mill linux
14:54
-delete is documented... freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?find(1)
ah
maybe there is something else in its functionality that differs. They are different. So there must something in there.
that's why I said to check the regex, that is the most likely thing to differ
what needs escaping and what doesn't
if I recall find lets you specify the type of regex to use, maybe the default is different?
GNU tools tend to use extended regex by default; I expect that BSD doesn't.
Yeah, I could give it the -E flag - would GNU ignore it?
I still have no way of testing on macos
@idjaw can you try it with the -E flag?
15:01
cabbage
@AaronHall same result.
I gotta run. But did you see this -> stackoverflow.com/a/5905513/1832539
ok, boss meeting, be back soon...
@idjaw thanks!
recbg
having really hard time with django orm
who designed this rubbish
or... is this like... designed???
at all??
fortunately I am on airplane and drinking free beer
so I can never rename my app
because the database table must go by the same name
the db_table is not a solution ... because it is not possible to do migrations, ever again.
15:14
@Aran-Fey hehe, I also thought "Oh yam, it's a dupe, fair enough. Oh, that is the answer? bah" :D
Honestly, I think that closure should be reversed
no, the dupe target should have an improved answer
oh, you mean reversed as in the target and source reversed
can't comment on that one
@Aran-Fey Not quite, he almost always explains his code. But yeah, those one-liners are a bit silly. OTOH, I guess I do stuff like that sometimes, but at least I format it over multiple lines. Or break it up into sections using temporary names to make it a little more readable.
It's scary how easy it is to forget what good code looks like when you're active on SO
15:31
@Aran-Fey cite code in the standard library and you'll get more exposure... :)
The standard library is on a whole 'nother level...
morning cbg, this will be my last day as a User after tonight I will be purchasing StackOverflow and putting the python chat guys in charge of everything
as you wish, boss
I think I'm going to punt and say use the other option on macOS...
Sounds great. From now on, all questions that aren't tagged with python are automatically closed
15:38
This is the reasons I knew you guys were perfect for the job
excellent idea!
if you ask how to remove a duplicate from a list, perma ban
Posting a question costs 100 rep
Ballpark, what is the value of SO?
20 million?
quatloos
of course
Im doing real rewards reaching different rep levels , and retroactively rewarding users
5k rep you get a computer from a choice list
10k a seadoo
random airplane tickets mixed in there
15:43
I take it that you plan on winning the lottery.
The gamesmanship with rep would just be obnoxious if guys (and girls) were getting new computers at 5k
I'm in for that. Now, show me where my new laptop is!
@Aran-Fey Cheap at twice the price.
I hear you get a t-shirt or something when you kit 100K
@PM2Ring You realize that would kill SO, right? :D
I heard at 100K you get mugged
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15:49
@Aran-Fey You could have it easy, why don't you want rep?
*shrug* I've got enough
@Aran-Fey Well, yes. But seriously, something needs to be done to improve question quality. Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible without returning to the old Jeff Atwood standards when "Lacks minimal understanding" was a thing, and newbies were tolerated if they could behave like professionals.
I think what SO needs is a walled-off veteran-only area where people can post self-answered questions. (The Q&A model would stay the same, but you can't post a question there without an answer.) And a wild-west low-quality newbie area.
@PM2Ring and "Lacks minimal understanding" will not return unless they cancel The Welcoming
it's never going to return
15:56
Exactly :P
even in a more technical climate it was deemed too abusable
@Aran-Fey every Q&A is fairly walled-off - so just post self-Q&A. Most of mine have worked out...
The veteran-only area will itself have a veteran-of-veterans-only area inside it where Martijn and Jon Skeet drink margaritas on a white sandy beach
Maybe it was. So now we abuse other options like Too broad in an attempt to cover the same territory.
It's like that bit in Narnia where each iteration of the Garden of Very Pleasant Things contains a full-scale model of the Garden of Very Pleasant Things at its center, with each layer being even more pleasant than the last
16:01
Fractal VIP sections
@AaronHall Well, the point is that the content would be separated by quality. One section would serve as a playground for programmer fledglings, and the other area would be the knowledge repository. Sure you can create pearls on SO, but they easily get lost among the trash
At the center is a transcendent being of light, forever enraptured by the beauty of a perfect lotus blossom
...Or at least there is, in my Narnia/StackOverflow crossover fanfiction
@Kevin Even if that happens, it'd still be a major improvement. I'd rather have veterans argue with veteran-veterans than veterans having to deal with hordes of inept newbies
@Aran-Fey Maybe, but people will be less motivated to write answers in the veteran area, since the self-answer should be adequate, unless they come up with an alternative solution that's significantly better. Or they get more points for participating there. And if the vets area is succesful the wild west will get dominated by the blind leading the blind, and the rep farmers.
No heres what should happen when you are under say 1k rep instead of asking a question you follow a tree of questions that leads you to the duplicate you were about to post
16:05
@Aran-Fey Do you really think things get lost in rubbish? I have yet to have that experience. Although I'm not at your level, I do use SO everyday (other than chat) and find what I need nearly every time.
@W.Dodge It literally happened just now. A higher-quality Q&A getting closed as duplicate of a much worse one: stackoverflow.com/q/52952345/1222951
Q1: Are you trying to remove a Duplicate? Q1: Are you trying to remove an item that is in another list? Q3: Are you trying to find all the Duplicates?
@vash_the_stampede you can't talk about users under 1k, you were only there for like a day :)
lol
im saying some arbitrary benchmark @W.Dodge hah im still a noob just a classy one like Isaac Newbton
@Aran-Fey Nvm, that got reopened
But anyway, I'm absolutely convinced that pearls get lost. Next time you google something, pay attention: How many bad SO questions do you click before you find useful information?
16:10
I'm seeing a lot of questions in Flask lately where OP is asking about "David" doing this and that and it's kinda wholesome :D
@Aran-Fey true but I always find what is there to find
Slight inconvenience
But maybe some form of higher level status for the primo content is in order. You may be right
I felt slightly guilty about answering this, but I couldn't find an adequate dupe.
cbg
If I have a try except... And the except is for a specific error type... Should I always follow that with another except to catch any none standard errors that could happen?
no
only catch what you want to handle and handle them
exceptions are not pokemon
Blindly using excepts everywhere will probably just make your code impossible to debug
16:21
@Aran-Fey It's definitely harder to find good stuff on SO now compared to 5 years ago because you have to wade through so much rubbish. Ironically, bad questions having bad titles is kind of useful because it makes them easier to skip over, OTOH, if you can't find what you want then you have to go back & look at those questions with bad titles, just in case a pearl is buried there.
@AndrasDeak the non MySpecialException should throw an error as normal right if I am catching only that exception, i.e. something like except MySpecialException
Why did i read that as bad question having bad ti**ies :)
Yeah, people really have a knack for posting bad questions with useful-sounding titles
@Johnston yes, except YourException, and let anything unexpected bubble up
Thanks @AndrasDeak
@Johnston You can have a naked except (or except Exception as e) at the end of your named except clauses, if you want to log or print something there, but you should almost always re-raise the exception.
Jul 17 '15 at 12:55, by PM 2Ring
In accordance with the ancient programmer proverb: Never test for an error condition that you don't know how to handle.
Wow. Linking to 2015.
@PM2Ring so in that line of thinking. You shouldn't ever have a except Exception because it'd most likely be too broad
@Johnston If it tries to handle the exception, yes, it. ould catch stuff that it doesn't intend to, and which it's not designed go handle. That's not an issue though if it re-raises.
"Knowing how to handle an error condition" may entail "log it, then crash anyway"
Exceptions should always be as specific as possible, and try blocks should be as short as possible to limit the possible sources of exceptions.
cbgning.
@IljaEverilä cbg
Hmm, a week ago I said that the bezier curve with control points [a,b,c] is the same as the bezier curve with control points [a,b,b,c], but now that I draw them out, they look different. I was misled by MS Paint, which I thought could draw both cubic and quadratic curves, but evidence now suggests otherwise
I need someone with macos to test this bash function:
pyclean () {
    find . -type f -name '*.py[co]' -delete -o -type d -name __pycache__ -delete
}
My assumption was that if you click three points with the bezier tool active, then it draws a preliminary cubic curve, and switches to quadratic when you click a fourth point. But no. The curve I thought was cubic actually perfectly overlays the quadratic curve I just rendered with PIL.
17:22
I probably need to quote the * so it doesn't glob in the shell...
you'd have to do that in bash too
Is there anyone from Canada? I want to ask something
There are more than zero regulars that are in Canada right now, so go ahead and ask
Anyone having trouble upgrading to 3.7.1? It can't seem to find it via pypi, and when I go directly to the url for the tarball it has a type error
17:28
And here's my windows solution:
python -c "import pathlib; [p.unlink() for p in pathlib.Path('.').rglob('*.py[co]')]"
python -c "import pathlib; [p.rmdir() for p in pathlib.Path('.').rglob('__pycache__')]"
@toonarmycaptain Right... So, It's a personal question! I mean I'm from somewhere else and I want to travel and so one.
Could you help me Mr. @toonarmycaptain? Can I ask you a question in private?
There are no private chats on Stack Overflow. And in any case I'm not sure toon ever said he was Canadian.
I guess you could interpret our customary greeting, "cbg", to mean "hello, yes, I am one of those things you said" but it could just as easily have been a greeting to the room, independent of your question
I am not. Although I do drink their whiskey.
@A-O off-topic conversation is allowed here so long as you don't overdo it.
@Kevin I know, I meant somewhere else again, It's not really important where he is from exactly.
@AaronHall Ok . . . !
@toonarmycaptain lol
17:37
You can ask the room and maybe someone can help you (as I did just now, although noone has come through for me today yet...).
I was hoping to get some criticism of my python commands, so lay it on me if you have any... yes they're abusing list comprehensions for looping, but I can't think of a better way to one-line it...
I haven't tested it but I expect python -c "import pathlib: for p in pathlib.Path('.').rglob('*.py[co]'): p.unlink()" would have the same outcome, while not using the forbidden technique of "list comps with side effects"
I was about to ask about the list comp and what list you're hoping to get..
By using the slightly less forbidden technique of "putting the for loop's suite on the same line as the for statement"
I'll test it... I figure for -c commands all style rules are off
17:43
Today's pet peeve: that there is no formal term for "the part of the for loop that encompasses for foo in bar: and not the indented lines that follow afterwards
syntax error - I don't think the grammar allows it because you can only separate simple statements with semicolons...
simple_stmt: small_stmt (';' small_stmt)* [';'] NEWLINE
small_stmt: (expr_stmt | del_stmt | pass_stmt | flow_stmt |
             import_stmt | global_stmt | nonlocal_stmt | assert_stmt)
      for statement
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
for x in range(10): print(x)
    ^    ^^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^
    |        |       suite
    |        |
    |     expression
    |       list
    |        ^
  target     |
   list      |
    ^        |
    |        |
    +--------+
        |
       ???
in bash you can just go multiline, but in Windows, Bill forbid it be that simple...
I could abuse __import__...
$ python3 -c "for i in range(3): print(i)"
0
1
2
Hmm, you're right. You can't separate an import and a for loop with a semicolon.
python -c "for p in __import__('pathlib').Path('.').rglob('*.py[co]'): p.unlink()"
17:51
__import__ is slightly more forbidden than side-effecty list comps though
I didn't realize it was totally ordered...
@toonarmycaptain You know, Actually, I'm from Iran and If you have been following the news a little I'm sure you know that the economy in Iran does not really keep going well, So I'm looking for a job somewhere else out of my country, At the end: I have no idea what I need to do to move from here to my dreamland!
@AaronHall: What about Powershell?
@user2357112 target is Windows - not Windows with Powershell.
The forbidden techniques of Python are uncountable and totally ordered, much like the real numbers.
17:53
I feel like I'm cool enough I can break all the rules, even the one against __import__...
"do as I say, not as I do..."
I think PowerShell comes with Windows these days.
That's why forbidden techniques exist. If they weren't intended to ever be used, they'd be removed from the language.
Like the sinister math.fingle() function, which GVR deleted from the code base before its first public release. No one man should have all that power.
@user2357112 I think assuming all Python programmers on Windows have and are using Powershell is a bad idea.
'Forbidden' is just a different way to pronounce 'exciting', right?
I feel like there ought to be some way to pass a multiline string for the argument following "-c", but python -c "import math\nprint(1)" doesn't do it
17:59
Theory: -c means you get to invert the forbidden and now it's the recommended way...
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