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00:04
Am i too late to praise websockets? I hope not.
If you are, then just socket up.
00:19
@DSM As long as you don't praise them more than cabbage - it's acceptable either way :p
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Hey, Jon! How are things across the pond?
@DSM don't know... I think France is doing fine? :p
oh wait... the "big" pond :p
busy busy busy... doing an all nighter
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"Fog in the Atlantic Ocean: Britain cut off"
Yeah... that fog is taking "Brexit" seriously or something :p
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I'm quite happy that I don't need to be doing those any more. :-) Excepting one of our teams, everybody at NumberFirm leaves at five.
00:22
Sweet
Mind you - did have a nice chicken pesto linguini tonight
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That's am linguini!
Are you doing overnight dev or babysitting some operations?
Will have to raid @idjaw cupboards later for some brandy though... will be very disappointed if he forgot to get some :p
@DSM the someone f*ed everything up and didn't actually submit any code for a promo tomorrow kind of thing... so some bug fixing, and massively kludging something for the presentation...
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:-( Ouch. My sympathies.
yeah... trying to squash 3 days of dev into 8 hours
I'm just going to have to sticky plaster the whole bloody lot
have a bug with my code when I use the get_time() custom function
def get_time(the_time):
datestr = datetime.fromtimestamp(the_time)
dateoutput = datestr.strftime("%H:%M:%S")
return dateoutput;

print("time: {}".format(get_time(my_time)))
error bug:
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2642' in position 7: ordinal not in range(128)
00:27
:S
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@JonClements: do you at least get to glue it together with python?
@Jean-philippeEmond: are you 100% sure that's the code generating that error?
yep.
@DSM, I received the "my_time" from the net. well..
@Jean-philippeEmond and what does repr(the_time) show?
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'cause that unicode character is the MALE SIGN ♂.
ok.. I can check.. but dont know how long I will get that
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00:36
Your code worked for me when passed in the current timestamp, fwiw.
yeah its works. but sometimes it broke with this msg
if I repr(...) I need to use debug() ?
to show in console or it will show automatic
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Just add a print(repr(the_time)) just inside your function. When it fails, you'll see what input it got.
and how does my_time come "from the net"?
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I'm about to lose connectivity. Rhubarb for all!
by JSON from a website
00:42
rhubarb, DSM
argg.. my boss call me.. come back
soon
seems I missed a bunny/kitty war
@JGreenwell don't think you missed much really
00:58
as a dog, you would take that stance
01:21
blah... remaining a puppy forever ty :p
my bad, my bad :)
@JonClements Definitely restocked the brandy. It's gonna be a long night for me as well.
Didn't finish what I wanted to and it's really bugging me
so I'm just hacking away tonight
what's your story this evening?
01:33
a client has been let down by someone...
=/ oh. So you're on janitor duty?
I wasn't even involved with the project
I sadly have a reputation of being a fixer
starting to have doubts if I can do it in time given the code base - but giving it a bloomin' good go
that is a great and horrible reputation to have
good and bad thing I suppose.
ha hehe
ah...I liked "ha hehe" better
don't have a reason why
01:36
put it back for you
except maybe that chocolate wine is delicious
yay :)
wait..chocolate wine? that's a thing?
yes, chocolate espresso wine
:O it is a thing. It is a thing I have not consumed yet
can't feel I'm doing nothing but adhoc'ing everything here
01:38
start using Perl, its the best at adhoc'ing (and they'll never ask you to fix anything else)
Yeah. When you're brought in to fix the thing, that's pretty much what's going to happen. Ad-hoc aka duct tape
fastest way to turn those frowns upside down
had to reconfigure the server to not connect to the backend (while still storing it for later), breaking up XML feeds and then feeding then locally to keep it going - then sorting out what the triggers do on the replicated server...
you weren't kidding with the 3 days of work estimate
then parse the received data so that it's sane... it can also cross-reference previously received elements that change that meaning... sighs
btw. bad things to say in a phone interview should include "Nice to speak to you, sir"......only to hear, in a surprisingly deep voice "I'm a woman" :\
01:45
juggling juggling
@JGreenwell ironically, if you ever got the opportunity to speak to me voice wise, I don't actually have a very manly voice... I've been called "Miss" on the phone before :p
proving that one should just avoid gender based pronouns
Puppy voices are hard to differentiate. I would just say, "nice to speak to you, pup"
woof woof!?
see??? how can you tell!!!
okay... clusters are back properly, and update query is running
That's gong to take 3 - 4 hours sighs
@idjaw it's how you say the "woof" - obviously - sheesh cap'n :p
01:55
shame on me.
My party tonight is brought to you by twisted
I need to have something on while I'm working. Any suggestions
what are you into? comedy, scifi, anime?
from those three, I'd go for scifi. Also need something with good action.
Or even just a non scifi action
Deadpool?
already saw it
but would have been a perfect choice
was going to say the Doctor but it is not action-y (unless running counts)
its a bit old but have you ever seen Equilibrium? (just re-watched that and enjoyed it recently)
02:15
that seems like I'd need to have a lot of concentration. How is seven psychopaths?
dark humor and violent...I liked it :)
awesome
win
thanks
@idjaw I'm listening to ABBA :)
first song I bought "online"
 
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04:02
@idjaw something you've seen before, so you aren't too distracted while you work:) I generally pick how I met your mother or friends or brooklyn 99, that sort of thing.
@JonClements DOH. And don't be so modest - that "someone" was you, right? :)
That has to be the lowest effort post I've seen in .
04:22
@davidism lol
Thanks to Stack Overflow I started to expect a certain amount of research effort even from my grandma
5
Grandma be googling hard
...and also a clear problem statement. It's not uncommon for her to ask to fix things that just "don't work"
I feel sorry for her
why? :/
04:38
when some of our new users (who are supposedly a part of the "tech" generation) are so bad at doing that, what chance does grammy have?
Well, yes
Yes to what?
To the first part of your message
I admit I wasn't very clear :D
04:54
And I haven't had my coffee yet, brain hasn't booted up properly.
user559633
05:14
yeah, i think i'll only tolerate emails (typically question titles) that have a subject of "Computer" from family
wtf is this show on History? it has that aliens dude
user559633
jeff goldblum?
no, the one who looks like bad hairday Jeff
Whenever someone asks me to fix their computer, I just update adobe reader and tell them it's fixed
user559633
bad hairday jeff?
05:20
@ChaoticTwist Do you compliment them afterward? ;)
@WayneWerner I do, and also tell them about google ultron ;)
+1
Apparently "Ancient Aliens" is the program
New history channel sucks tho
Yeah... it's apparently drunk
How can a channel be drunk?
I mean, I'm actually wondering, in a sci-fi sense. How would a channel get drunk? What circumstances would lead to it? Did it have a bad breakup with another channel? Jealous of all the attention netflix was having?
05:39
Just made a serious of bad decisions
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r u series
06:10
cbg
cbg @AnttiHaapala
06:32
cabbage
Cabbage
Cabbagéé
cribbage
06:58
Adding two accented e's makes it sound more French, I think.
yesterday in Yerevan
user559633
video game graphics are getting good!
kek
> North Miami Cops Shoot Behavioral Therapist Trying to Help Autistic Patient Who Had a Toy Truck
> 'Sir, why did you shoot me?' and his words to me were, 'I don't know.'"
what the hell
user559633
07:20
Florida is the Florida of Florida
US police is messed up
user559633
Eh. I wouldn't generalize that much.
user559633
Big country, lots of regional differences.
I mean, we have been clashing with the police for 5 days already, nobody got shot.
user559633
And that happens in some areas of the US. And I suspect that fewer people in your country have handguns.
07:22
US is messed up. Poverty, discrimination, the unhealthy attachment to gun ownership.
yeah nobody has a gun
that makes sense
we just hit each other with rocks
not very effective but does the job
user559633
Again, regional. I've never lived in an area of the country in which everyone had a gun and walked around thinking idiot racist thoughts.
good luck US with Donald Schicklgruber-Trumpler
user559633
We'll be fine :)
07:26
how do you know WW3 will be like WW2?
Will you, though? I mean the US will be fine, but will you?
user559633
What, USA saving Europe from Germany again? Seems like Germany is at war with itself, so we're safe.
at war with itself, based on news reports from rt.com :D
user559633
ha, yeah, I'll be fine. GF and I could always head to the parts of Russia too cold to invade.
user559633
Yes, because I'm an RT.com reader.
07:28
see, you're not living in a country bordering Russia
over the last few years things have gotten pretty crazy
user559633
What do you mean?
propagandawise
user559633
I think Russia has enough strategic snow reserves that Finland will be safe.
And Jarrod is trolling the Python community again: stackoverflow.com/questions/32981772/…
@tristan starred
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07:29
And I lived in Russia for about 1/4 of last year :) (ha, i actually just realized this)
but see, you do not see it in the system.
I know having lived in another country 1/4's of some years that not be now named in public discussions :D
user559633
yes, as an american, once you take my gun away at the border, i'm too bewildered to make observations about the country i'm visiting
@MartijnPieters Is there a story behind this?
during last 5 years Finland has been a target of some pretty high profile propaganda attacks.
from ruskies?
07:32
ruskies
Nah, Nokia.
user559633
No, Kia.
@khajvah Jarrod seems to like to put 500 point bounties on random posts.
ruskies has been doing that to us for ages
well, what they are doing is trying to give rep to users they think should be able to moderate.
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07:33
South Korea is trying to sell their crappy cars more aggressively in Finalnd (oh, ostensibly Kias have become less "death trappy" in recent years)
yeah but it is like times are changing here. Before there was no problem, but now it is like what is Putin up to?
Putin wants the next soviet union
and the change is that worries me :D
Change is bad.
user559633
Putin flicks cigar in Helsinki's general direction "You're Finnished"
07:36
@Ffisegydd "Change is bad." Like, all change is bad? or just that particular change.
cb'nin'g
@MartijnPieters SO is need for mods?
one example of current times is that whenever the Russian media want to interview a Finnish expert about the internal policies of Finland they always call Johan Bäckman, a Finnish-born Russian chauvinist :D
@ChaoticTwist All change.
guy has the academic title "docent" but we call him "desant Bäckman"
07:40
@Ffisegydd how is all change bad? methinks change is very very important.
There's been lots of "independent" Russian-funded media being started in Finland
I really wish you guys won't follow the Russian propaganda
ppl do...
user559633
Who is following Russian propaganda in here?
the russian propaganda works otherwise here.
07:44
Russia is the worst thing that can happen to a country
they advocate Fixit.
Cabbage!
user559633
Disagree that it's the worst thing that can happen to a country.
well of course getting attacked by ISIS is worse but you got what I meant
well yes, there is Nazi-Germany and the US :d
user559633
07:45
Uhh, leaving the EU?
yes
@tristan it is very subtle
@AnttiHaapala US is better I think
they fund the "Finnish alternative media"
@khajvah I can think of a few more things worse than that. :P
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You can't be a strong without the EU.
07:45
I'd take leaving the EU over Trump.
user559633
More like the Eww
and then there is a party called "Finnish independence party"
who are all Putinists.
user559633
07:46
Oh yeah, the FIPs
user559633
nods knowingly even though he's never heard of them
they spread rumors about election frauds here etc :D
no they're just a small one...
not a single MP... but the problem is that now with the refugee "crisis" ppl really start reading those shitty pro-Putin alternative media.
because "the establishment wants to deny us the truth"
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i assume that there's also anti-"refugee" media that's not pro-putin
rumors, that's so cute. Try this obvious filling
no, there isn't.
that is the funny part of it
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07:48
sometimes i can't tell when you're being sarcastic
not sarcastic.
user559633
daily mail is pro putin?
the others do not have enough power to make up their own net newspapers
I mean in Finland.
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oh, well, there's like 35 of you living there, so that makes sense
no, these are openly racist.
like using N-words all the time etc.
or calling for deportation of all muslims...
anti-vaccination
pro-Putin :d
07:51
sounds like 4chan.org/pol/
that was funny
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yeah, but it didn't support the joke setup i was going to make at the expense of finnish racists
think about it, if in Russia there once was a character like Johan Bäckman, he'd have committed a suicide 10 years ago...
... by shooting himself twice in the back.
user559633
Shot in the Backman, you mean
bad pun :D Swedish 101: bäck actually means a brook, and back is a hill. Behind is bak/bakom yes
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changing gears to something that has potential to be amusing
I do not think Saudi-Arabia is amusing
that was amusing indeed
that's the worst thing to happen to a country, really
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A Fatwa against Pikachu.
that is as amusing as Iran not having a gay problem.
user559633
08:01
I thought there weren't any gays in Iran.
There aren't.
I second a fatwa against pikachu
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Well, thank God/Allah that a homophobe's religious rationalizations of their small-mindedness can alter another's sexual preference.
@AndyK You monster!
thought it was a joke until I read the newspaper ... -_-
08:03
started googling and found this: theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2015/jun/11/…
@khajvah Jarrod seems to think so.
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"Consensual sex between two adult males is punishable by death. Tafkhiz - defined as the rubbing together of thighs or buttocks" I'm not an expert on the matter, but i'm pretty sure that's not how it works.
@AnttiHaapala What's the difference between 99 and 100 lashes?
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@RomanLuštrik 1
08:05
I love how the article casually states "..it's technically illegal...punishable by death..." and then discusses the more serious problem of not being able to get a room
@tristan as an expert I confirm your opinion
@ChaoticTwist yes I am, guilty as charged. I would send a fatwa to the gamers actually ... it would be more fun ...
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@tristan only 40% of gay men actually have "sex". Rest of it is mostly "rubbing together of thighs or buttocks"
user559633
08:06
if your religious leaders have strong feelings about this image, it might be time for some introspection
TBH, the expression on the bulbasaur's face looks like it's coming for you wife and daughters
user559633
I get the "bulb" part, but why "saur"? Am I chasing meaning where there is none?
why not?
inspired by dinosaurs, just smaller?
you tihnk it is a turtle?
08:10
That'd be squirtle
or a frog
bulbasaur is more like a frog
but fatter and less jumpy
@tristan Sauria is a group of animals and it can refer to almost anything "reptile like", incl. birds. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauria
@tristan I love that one
user559633
08:13
@RomanLuštrik Interesting, thanks
@RomanLuštrik ah nice
if there is anything permanent in animal taxonomy, it is the change.
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Taxomon
my wife suggested to me that I should program a berry/mushroom picking game :d
@AnttiHaapala what kind of game?
08:43
one day, it will be over ... thanks whoever/whatever
@AndyK pika? Q_Q
ohhh @poke that's life. I'm a terrible man...ah well, I'll definitely survive that :DDD
morning cbg
09:04
cbg-ning
09:24
Cbg
morning
cbg
09:46
Been playing about with pandas this week (courtesy of Fizz and a tutorial he pointed me at.) - enjoying it, quite a lot like magic.
Some stuff that I was doing realllllly cumbersome transformations for, is really simple.
can anyone help me with my python code?
See the room rules my man. Don't ask if you can ask, just ask. sopython.com/chatroom
A lot of people can. The question is, will they?
@AngusRyan only if you read sopython.com/chatroom
thanks
I have made a connect 4 game in python and I'm trying to work out a way to save a board
I used pygame, and have tried to store the array in pickle then open the pickled file although its as if no data has been saved
09:51
Didn't you ask this the other day?
yeah, and I have used pickle like they said
but it's having issues, and I kind of need to solve it soon as its apart of my high school major due in a few days, after it being a year
hence my persistency at trying to resolve it
Worth not confusing "trying to resolve it" with "nagging" :)
lol. so it's not saving when you pickle it. have you tried manually pickling something to the file?
When you pickle to a file, can you see that it's changed?
(The file)
No I can't
09:55
@ChaoticTwist you need to go to forest, thn see on your screen if there are berries or mushrooms to pick
if you run pickle.dump(my_thing, my file) from commandline, what do you get?
and if you're closer than 100 meters to the road you will sometimes get mushrooms or berries that are polluted
@AnttiHaapala do you actually have to go? (like pokemon go)
you find treasures in areas that are as far as possible from any known pokestop :d
obviously :D
Oh just read your last message. makes sense now
09:57
going outside sucks
It
It'd be cool *
lol. spoken like a true 1980s programmer, @khajvah
PoGo gets a little boring after a while.
@Withnail or a 2016 gamer. But I am none
@khajvah Reminds me of a post I read a while back. "Went outside once, graphics were good but the gameplay sucked" or something like that
09:59
yeah I read that too

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