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12:19 AM
Random thought: time travel is invented an infinite number of times, but the result is always the same: as soon as the first particle of the traveller peeps through at the destination, the universe notices the violation of conservation of energy and creates an antiparticle to compensate for it – which is the source of all those virtual particles constantly popping in and out of existence.
This is the Very Strong Anthropic Principle: the only universes which can exist are the ones suitable for the development of intelligences capable of inventing time travel, generating virtual particles throughout history, providing a source for Hawking Radiation and thereby allowing black holes to evaporate rather than just swallow everything up.
 
I asked an interview today "what superpower do you want" and he answered time travel. We were suitably horrified.
 
Should have answered "The one I already have"
 
> -- Honey, why did they reject your application?
> -- Because I want to kill Hitler.
 
12:43 AM
up to 30 pages of Dissertation written (not including code and graphs/tables/figures) :)
 
1:12 AM
\o/ :)
rhubarb
 
anyone watching the olympics? Is America still decent?
 
we blew on Judo but are doing okay on medal count if that is what you mean (thanks to gymnastics and a certain swimmer)
though Travis Stevens bout was good
lets see, yep - still in first by medal count
 
1:28 AM
I'm not going crazy am I: os.system() was switched to "use subprocess" in 2.7 (or even 3) wasn't it?
nevermind, found it (was 2.7)
 
1:42 AM
who did best in judo? Japan? Looks like they got 3 golds
 
Japan killed, Russia was second, Italy third in terms of metals
the fact that Japan did well is not much of a shocker though :)
 
 
5 hours later…
7:12 AM
cbg
 
7:51 AM
hm
decimal.Decimal().to_eng_string is utterly and horribly broken
the same applies to the whole decimal module.
it just doesn't fscking work at all
>>> (decimal.Decimal('123.0') ** 5).to_eng_string()
'28153056843.00000'
>>> (decimal.Decimal('12356.0') ** 5).to_eng_string()
'287998017461938635776.00000'
>>> decimal.Decimal('12.356e3').to_eng_string()
'12356'
Indeed engineering notation is now utterly broken, the engineering notation is not printed for pretty much any *engineering* numbers at all in 3.6. Engineering numbers mean numbers that could be met in an engineering context, not cosmological!
bugs.python.org/issue26223
 
8:07 AM
> @Antti Please think before you write and stop making unfounded allegations.
 
never heard about engineering notation :/
 
Cabbagey Morning
 
8:25 AM
Cbg
 
boom refactoring day today.
tox seems nice. I should start using it
 
8:41 AM
@FlorianMargaine ... wtf
 
That's you told.
 
>>> (decimal.Decimal('13000e6') + decimal.Decimal('0.000000000000000000000000000')).to_eng_string()
'13000000000.00000000000000000'
@IntrepidBrit this isn't broken?
>>> (decimal.Decimal('13000e6') + decimal.Decimal('0.000000000000000000000000000')).to_eng_string()
'13000000000.00000000000000000'
>>> (decimal.Decimal('13000e6') + decimal.Decimal('0.0')).to_eng_string()
'13000000000.0'
 
I completely agree with you that it's not working as described in the docs.
I'm amused by a wild Florian appearing and mike dropping
 
Cabbage. I've only dabbled in the Decimal module, but I agree that output is nothing like the engineering notation I'm familiar with.
 
Cabbage, all. @davidism thanks for the note on my Flask answer yesterday.
 
8:57 AM
cbg(["pm 2Ring", "holdenweb"])
 
@IntrepidBrit it is from bug tracker
 
Cbg
 
9:10 AM
OK, took me a while to realize that Florian was quoting a response from the bug tracker
cabbage
 
Ah okay. That makes sense
 
@IntrepidBrit the whole decimal is really really broken
that you measure something by precision of 10 meters
and add exactly 0, measured by precision of one meter
and the whole sum is now measured with the precision of one meter.
... and then you print that as an engineering string or scientific string to get significant numbers???
The exponent of the result is the minimum of the exponents of the two operands.
<3
 
9:33 AM
Yeah, as much as I love Python, there are certain parts of it that make me want to cry. Decimal and date/time/timezone handling are two such places
 
Why?
 
why?
why not?
date/time/timezone is horrible
 
Currently doing some timezone stuff and having to jump between 3 to 4 different python libraries to get something basic done? Ye gads it's 'orrible
 
yes
the first thing they get wrong is to mix the date representation with such an abstract concept as point in time.
and when you do that, then everything becomes horrible thereafter.
 
Hell, I can live with horrible, if it was just a consistent horrible.
 
9:38 AM
consider: "this event occurred 123123123 (leapsecond adjusted) seconds after the unix epoch"
 
@AnttiHaapala sure, but that’s not Python’s fault
 
@poke sure it is
it is exactly pythons fault, and the zope corp's who wrote datetime.
I am not trolling here, but datetime is the worst designed module of them all in the python standard library.
which arises from the fundamentally flawed concept that both human dates and points in time can be easily described by one class, that stores datetimes in broken-down format.
Java did that too
just see the number of deprecated methods
unfortunately they were deprecated in Java 6 years before python 2.3 appeared with the shiny new datetime, repeating the flaws of Java.
 
user6568562
Hi everybody [ :
 
i'm creating a simple book wish list app, and for user records have created a controller BookController. I also want admin to CRUD all records, should I create another controller?
 
Wouldn't you have a UserController for users?
@AnttiHaapala what the..?
 
i have
 
@whyguy depends, also more context needed...
@RobertGrant the link from florian
 
10:14 AM
> for user records have created a controller BookController
And agree re dates
The nicest date library I've used recently is moment.js
Although that probably has many flaws you're about to tell me :)
 
of course it has
because JavaScript made the same mistake of representing dates and points of time within a same class
however javascript dates still internally store their state as seconds (milliseconds) since epoch instead of broken-down date.
with python everything is horrible because you started with the wrong foot already.
Then you get fixes like PEP 495, which is like "CVS done right"
 
I'm going to ask a .NET question that'll get closed in 5 seconds for being "not Jon Skeet enough"
 
Love .Net
The most awesome thing ever
 
Wow, dudes! That's no way to motivate me.
> We invite you to participate in a research study being conducted at the University of Maryland, College Park, in cooperation with Saarland University in Germany. We got your email address from your Github commit messages.
> The online study will take less than 60 minutes to complete. It consists of a few small programming tasks (45 minutes) and an exit survey (15 minutes).
sixty minutes?
Then
> Unfortunately, we cannot compensate you for participating in the study, but if you're interested, we will be happy to share more information about our research with you.
I used to charge a considerable amount of money for 1 hour of Python expertise..
 
@MartijnPieters not anymore?
 
10:26 AM
:D
 
is it because you got old?
 
@FlorianMargaine full time employment and a long commute.
 
damn. That's less funny.
 
And no longer needing extra cash on the side, also helps.
Also, this:
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Q: Ethics of scraping "public" data sources to obtain email addresses

D.W.I am wondering whether the following research practice is ethical. A software engineering researcher downloads source code repositories from Github, a large source of publicly available open source code. The researcher searches the git commit logs to find email addresses of software developers ...

so I'll be reporting these clowns.
 
wow, I just viewed codementor prices. Average was $15 for 15 minutes. that's a lot
 
10:35 AM
Yeah but it's very piecemeal
 
I wonder how good should one be to become a mentor
 
I think when you sign up you have to give quite a lot of detail - that process may help you decide what level you are
 
I see I will try
 
@khajvah it is really not for mentoring individuals in developing countries but more like company pays in the States I'd say.
 
But if you're an expert in a developing country you can charge yourself out worldwide, which is cool
 
10:41 AM
Do you choose the guy to mentor by looking at the request or otherwise?
 
@khajvah I used to be a codementor, and I would look at the request.
The request usually also includes an amount they are willing to pay per 15 minutes, which was always part of my criteria to accept or not.
 
that's cool. You won't be caught up in a situation where you don't know the answer(s)
not that there are such questions for you Martijn
 
There is also a technical-setup grace period.
where the client doesn't pay, you both agree to start the paid-for session.
So you can use that too to figure out if the session is going to work or not and bow out early.
 
seems good to try
 
Then there is the option to offer the first 15 minutes free to new CM users. This can get you established and they have more confidence that you might actually be able to help.
Disclaimer: I've been inactive on CM for almost a year now, so things perhaps have changed since.
 
10:46 AM
@MartijnPieters anyway you are still featured on their page codementor.io/mentor/apply
 
"Would you let THIS MAN handle your Python?"
5
 
@ProblemSlover yup, CM was quite happy to have me as an active mentor.
 
@RobertGrant That has a double-meaning... o.O
 
@ByteCommander (-:
 
Has anyone used Pusher? I've read the blurb on the website, but I don't really get it.
 
10:57 AM
@RobertGrant I wouldn't
 
I'd be terrible with Pythons. I am no herpetologist, that's for sure.
 
The Herpetologist would be the classiest ever stripper name
Although it sort of sounds like a disease, so perhaps not
 
I went with unclear what you're asking, but yeah
 
fwc
Hello?
 
11:03 AM
hi?
 
fwc
Hi I have a Python error I need help with
Parse error on line 6
 
you've missed the colons from your conditional statements for a start.
if h < 40: is the correct format.
 
also else can't have a condition
 
fwc
Oh
 
use elif
 
fwc
11:04 AM
right
 
You multiply all hours by 1.5, rather than just those over 40. If that's right, then I need your overtime clause in my contract.
3
 
and what should happen when h == 40 is true?
you only test for smaller and larger..
 
fwc
right well =<
 
in which case else: with no condition would do.
 
^^ i think this is the most focused and fastest response to this sort of question I've seen in here :P
How are things down your way @khajvah?
 
11:08 AM
@Withnail everything is great except the uwsgi :D thanks for asking :)
 
lol. from protests and hostages in your city back to worrying about your uwsgi sounds like definite winning.
 
:D yeah it cooled down
 
@fwc easier logic:
if h > 40:
    overtime = h - 40
else:
    overtime = 0
pay = h * r + 0.5 * overtime * r
which reads: get 50 % more for those hours that exceed 40
 
upvoted
 
P.s. anyone writing such bad original code shouldn't be within a million miles of a system that figures out who should be paid what
 
11:20 AM
It looks like a hackerrank challenge or similar.
 
pay = h * r + 0.5 * max(h - 40, 0) * r
 
@thefourtheye yes :)
@AnttiHaapala I edited my question — Şansal Birbaş 16 mins ago
how can one make such a meaningless edit.
 
@AnttiHaapala well they're telling the truth
 
well, yes technically it is true.
if instead they'd written "I edited the question so that now the issues that you raised are properly addressed" then it wouldn't be true.
 
@AnttiHaapala well that's why they didn't write that:P
 
11:28 AM
I think migration(integeration) stackoverflow with code mentor or launching it's own platform would be quite a cool thing. I guess i'm far not first or even thouthand one who comes up with this idea :P
 
just introduce it as a new feature in Documentation
 
-_-
 
but seriously: I'd love to see the help vampire situation if part of SO was actually part tutorship
it would be a perpetual game of whack-a-garlic
 
Just limit people to asking questions when they have 1k rep or they pay dollars
 
:(
 
11:30 AM
Make >50k reps pay for temporarily disabling asking below 1k
 
Then have micro transactions for close votes
 
:D:D
I'd happily pay 1 rep for each close vote
and 2 rep for deletes
 
Sorry you ran out of your 2 close votes per day! Luckily you can purchase more for the low low prices price of...
 
0.000001BTC
 
exchange answers from experts for bitcoins./
or also add the bitcoin button to the every answer
 
11:35 AM
That'd make the bounty system interesting
 
user6568562
Any reasons as to why doesn't SO have code challenges or a coding platform ?
 
because there are many of them already
 
user6568562
There are also countless Q&A websites, and don't get me started on example-led documentation places
 
There aren't other QA websites of this type and quality
 
user6568562
I agree on the quality, but Quora and Yahoo answers do have Q&As and nothing in between except comments.
 
user6568562
11:45 AM
Anyway, maybe they don't see a potential need for it for the time being
 
re-cbg. I've been busy writing timeit code stackoverflow.com/a/38893110/4014959 It's a nice feeling when your code's twice as fast as Martijn's. :)
 
Hello everyone. Could I ask for some advice?
I am teaching myself Python at the moment, and I have heard using eval is bad practice, and that there is almost always a better solution. Could you please advise if there is a better way to do the following:
x = input("name: ")
if eval(x) not in list_of_class_instances:
    Blah
 
@PM2Ring I would put that fact in my CV :D
 
Dict
Oh no wait, Wat?
 
@randomhopeful There's Programming Puzzles & Code Golf, which plenty of SO regulars participate in.
 
11:51 AM
How are you expecting a string to match a class instance!? Wat?
 
using eval makes it work, but as I understand there is usually a more sensible option
 
@Ffisegydd Like this:
>>> a=eval('list')
>>> a is list
True
 
oh god
 
Yeah but a class instance? What in God's name are you trying to do?
 
Ah, right Jake's doing it with class instances, not actual class types.
 
11:54 AM
Yeah that's right
the list is class instances
I see my folly now
 
why?
 
I should have been more specific with the question
 
@JakeStokes Yes, there's probably a better way. At the moment, that code smells like an XY problem. So you need to explain what you're really trying to do.
 
I have a list containing class instances. User inputs the name of something, and if an instance of a class with that name already is exists in the list, blah else blah
 
you just explained your solution, not your problem
 
11:57 AM
my initial issue was "if x not in list" didn't work because the input was a string, and the only solution I found was using "eval", so my problem is that I am using eval, which is bad practice. Is there another option?
 
Ah. Well then. As I said originally. Dict
 
Could you elaborate a bit for me?
 
Key is name, value is instance.
I'm on my phone, so not really
 
Hmm I see.
 
@JakeStokes keep those variables in a dictionary
 
11:59 AM
That complicates things then
 
Though honestly, and I hope this isn't offensive, but if you are doing this then you should reevaluate whether you should be teaching the subject
 
["key_you_want_to_match"] -> value
 
Give me a second to look at my code again, because there is another complication in that case I need to think how to explain it
 
then do if user_input in dic:
 
Generally, it's not a good idea to expose your variable names to the user. It's messy, it doesn't scale well (i.e., it's painful if you want to do it with lots of variables) and it makes it tricky if you want to change the variable names for some reason.
 
12:00 PM
Oh no wait you're teaching yourself
Sorry :p
 
LOL.
 
I thought you were teaching others
 
Absolutely not!
^^
 
yet
 
:D
@JakeStokes so what is the actual use case
 
12:01 PM
You laugh but we've had teachers come in and ask similar
 
I am pretty sure there is a way to do this without resorting to eval
 
I understand what you mean khajvah, and thanks for that, but I have another issue in that case, which I need a second to think on how to explain
I'll try to implement it and come back to you
 
Every time you think about using eval, cut off a toe. You'll soon learn.
 
sure, I was elaborating on Ffisegydd's answer, which had good chance of solving your issue
 
Appreciated
 
12:03 PM
what, cutting a toe?
:D
 
there are good uses for plain eval...
... but now I cannot really think of any :D
exec is way more useful.
 
Why
Why would you say that?
 
you can use exec to make synthetic functions and code
eval is like ... whaat whyy?
 
@JakeStokes Another thing to consider: it may be useful for your scenario to give your instances a .name attribute. But it's hard to give specific advice when we don't know what you're actually trying to do.
 
even the most popular use of eval, evaluating an expression that comes from a trusted user, you should rather exec it into a function body or something.
not re-eval all the time
 
12:09 PM
Shouldn't this be closed for lack of effort?
 
Gosh, yeah.
 
It looks like simple a homework question to me.
 
Close reason?
 
I guess I could dupe-hammer it with this: stackoverflow.com/questions/38595362/…
 
someone has punished answers with downvotes
 
12:14 PM
>->
<-<
 
I'm joining this party too
 
We'll never know who did it.
 
lol I once did that and got banned
 
Got it to work, thanks again Ffisegydd and khajvah
 
It's not a great match, but at least it stops further answers being posted. :)
 
12:16 PM
What python scripts are you all currently working on?
 
great so now we are telling people to use os.system instead of subprocess.....I hate SOD
also happy cbg to all :)
day-off today for all the work I did yesterday fixing band-aid filled, spaghetti code :\ :) :| :)
 
@JGreenwell sounds familiar, except that there is nobody to fix mine :(
 
as long as you don't use goto or eval your forgiven
 
nah, I am not that bad
I don't like my class design
but fixing it is dangerous at this point
 
create a backup -> try and fix -> if fails then restore backup (or use git and make a whole bunch of saves after each incremental change and then restore the head if and as it fails)
 
12:22 PM
yeah but in process I might lose couple of days
the codebase is not small
 
ah, so the standard Agile plan: "If it works it is good enough until it breaks - and then only if we can't add more duct tape and glue"
 
user559633
backlog and tech debt grooming meeting en route
 
@JGreenwell My self-esteem drops by every duct tape added
 
@khajvah sounds like you don't have enough tests
 
yea I don't
 
user559633
12:29 PM
in defense of the "do the minimum amount of work to get it to work", i realized that architecturally, i was better off pushing more work onto a client browser, and that i wasted two weeks trying to be clever about stuff on the backend
 
user559633
@WayneWerner turns out that кошка is fine for either gender cat if you're speaking very generally, e.g. "he has a cat"
 
Rhubarb, off to the countryside. Expect me on the morrow, at dawn look to the east.
 
rbrb Gandalf
 
user559633
have fun @AndrasDeak, i hope you fill your lungs with fresh air
 
@tristan Ah, nice. Good to know :)
 
12:31 PM
@tristan thanks:)
 
@tristan I try, very hard, to make sure that I'm not trying to be too clever at any given moment
 
user559633
@WayneWerner Same, but that's just my natural state
 
As do I, I'm extremel - never mind, joke stolen.
 
from the boston slang glossary: Lauren Oddah - This is not a woman's name, but rather, it's the eastern Massachusetts pronunciation of "Law and Order".
 
@tristan being clever or trying to be clever ?
 
12:32 PM
@tristan Oh, well, of course. Isn't it for all of us? ;)
 
user559633
@khajvah In that I'm never potentially clever, so I don't have to worry about it
 
It seems to me like any time that I'm spending more than a few minutes thinking about how to solve a problem, rather than actually making progress toward it being solved means I'm trying to be too clever.
 
odd, most of the time I ran into the reverse problem when working with web @tristan
 
Note that of course this does not include time learning about the problem or problem domain.
 
12:34 PM
granted most of the places I worked were like 80% JS (Angular or Knockout framework) so that might have been the problem
 
Heh.
 
user559633
For this given case, it was that I was trying to get location for a user based on a number of fallback mechanisms -- user logged in and has told us in the past hour, lat/long by geosensor, if can't get geo -- local ip/geo DB
 
Hm. Are the rep/inbox bars broken for anyone else?
 
oh, yeah - backend that only on mobile apps (where you can just ask the phone for Location data)
 
user559633
All that worked, but then I went with React JS, and I realized that my caching story was hideous.
 
12:36 PM
React is bretty great though
 
Hm. Looks like cdn.sstatic.net/Js/stub.en.js?v=2eca9bea41df doesn't work b/c too many redirects -_-
 
user559633
I ended up having to pay for localization for date/time/currency formats, so it just turned into a hot mess.
 
as a developer I'm always amazed and happy that I can get such information from a phone so easily - makes my job easier - as a person it always freaks me out a little that I can do that so easily
 
user559633
@corvid Yeah, it's okay. ES6 makes things a little better, but the whole JS library ecosystem still feels like a collection of things meant to only work for "hello world" and example pages.
 
Have you integrated redux yet? Then you can do some pretty advanced stuff fairly easily
 
12:38 PM
never used ReactJS - I hate Knockout (might have just been how company used it), Angular was okay
 
user559633
@JGreenwell Yeah, that's part of why I hate using a phone -- Google, the internet data collection and advertising behemoth, has no interest in giving users control over their experience
 
user559633
@corvid I have. I have 43209842 sub-libraries because JS is a shitty house of cards, but the main libraries I'm using are Babel, React, React-Router, Redux
 
you could switch to Apple ;) or MS....unless their phone is finally dead
cause I know you love Windows :P
 
user559633
Windows is terrible.
 
user559633
Now that I know what dumb behaviors to expect, I just stay in my little workflow to play games, but I still have an inner sadness for people that are forced to use it.
 
12:42 PM
I am always the most sad about playing games that only work in Windows
 
How does the Python community see these sorts of questions? IMO this is basically a tool request.
0
Q: Equivalent of R data.table rolling join in Python and PySpark

tjb305Does anyone know how to do an R data.table rolling join in PySpark? Borrowing the example and nice explanation of rolling joins from Ben here; sales<-data.table(saleID=c("S1","S2","S3","S4","S5"), saleDate=as.Date(c("2014-2-20","2014-5-1","2014-6-15","2014-7- 1","2014-12-31"))) ...

 
^ and it always has been
 
user6568562
@PM2Ring Thank you [ : ! I bookmarked it, and will join once I'll be confident enough in my knowledge.
 
user559633
If Microsoft tries their hand forcing a "Windows store" for content distribution, a la the Apple Store.app, I know they'll bungle it, which might give Steam the little boost it needs to prioritize a gaming OS that supports a little Desktop OS that's compatible with Linux
 
Anyone recommend a good read/intro to pub/sub patterns and tools?
 
user559633
12:45 PM
@JGreenwell Fantastic.
 
user559633
@Withnail What kind of thing are you trying to get done? And are you hoping to be immediately productive or are you more focused on learning?
 
yes, they have a MS store one too ;)
 
It's not really something I've used before, and I'm going for an interview (entry level position) at a company that does this, so wanted to get background - so not looking to actually do anything immediately with me - overview of what/why/how, I guess?
 
user6568562
@tristan You're right. I'm preparing my leap into Ubuntu. Right now I still use this band-aid plagued excuse of Win 7, but I started relying more on open source solutions.
 
user559633
12:47 PM
@JGreenwell The in-person stores/mall kiosks are just cute/sad. It's the "all software must flow through and pay tribute" hook in the OS that I'm hoping will happen
 
This is a very general question, but is it bad to write an async function that never yields or sleeps until it's complete? I'm 80% sure this messes up the cooperative multitasking system underlying everything, but I want to check before I bend over backwards to yield periodically.
#In other words, which of these two is preferable?

async def producer():
    return my_queue.get()

async def producer():
    while my_queue.empty():
        await asyncio.sleep(0.1)
    return my_queue.get()
 
@randomhopeful I've only written a couple of really simple Code Golf answers, but Morgan is a frequent contributor. Some of the code written by the regulars is downright scary, especially if you're not used to code golf. :)
 
user559633
@Withnail rabbitmq.com/tutorials/tutorial-three-python.html the rabbitmq docs are decent and i'd probably start at the beginning as the interviewer will probably want to talk aboout queues more in general
 
@PM2Ring some of them make their own golfing languages, right?
 
Cool, thanks.
 
user559633
12:50 PM
@randomhopeful I don't have a lot of faith in the future of Linux on the desktop. Red Hat has their motivations and you have garbage like systemd subverting what kept Linux from becoming a monolithic pile of hacks like Windows.
 
yeah, I'm actually really happy that MS Phone is failing (it does still exists sorta but even Gartner is saying it needs to die at this point) as that lets me point to IPhone and Android as Linux-based (over-simplified I know) which helps me introduce the un-initiated to the truth of Linux
 
I'll just go with the sleepy approach for now. Although I sort of object to it on principle.
 
but yeah, I kinda see Linux becoming more Windows/OS X like for personal desktops/laptops (might see it stay as is for business - which is where I most push it)
 
user559633
At this point, I think Android running a Linux flavor is inconsequential. Users don't have the freedom to tweak and are heavily discouraged from looking at the internals.
 
I can't even root my phone
Android is so much different than the actual linux experience
 
12:52 PM
its for arguments with Exec-types - it only has to be technically correct
 
@khajvah Indeed, or use existing golfing languages. IMHO, it seems kinda weird for normal coding languages to compete side by side with golfing languages, but I guess the voters take those differences into account, to a degree.
 
user559633
If Red Hat had their way, we'd run another process in between user space and the machine, we wouldn't be able to run software they don't approve, it would be hard to build new tools from source, and they'd be a petty tyrant to a degree that would make Microsoft uncomfortable.
 
yeah from all the normal languages, I see only Haskell to be a good competitor
 
Is it reasonable to assume that await's "done" tuple will never contain more than one item if you use the FIRST_COMPLETED flag? Or could it be that multiple tasks complete exactly simultaneously?
 
user6568562
@PM2Ring I understand you very well ! Now that you showed me this way of challenging coders, I think I like it more than what I already saw.
Hope that I'll be able to be there, some day : P
 
12:55 PM
Perl is great for golfing and beat a bunch of Haskell back in the day (cause "there's more than one way to do it" mentality leaves a lot of golf opportunities)
 
I wish I understood how to ruby on rails :\
 
rub me on rails?
wat
 
user6568562
@tristan I see : / Hopefully, once Linux systems cease to seem like this cryptic geek-oriented OS, no Linux-based editor would be able to be yet another money-hoarding dick.
 
I loved Red Hat, it was the flavor of Linux I had every used, in the 90s (cause anything that wasn't Windows was good) but now....disappointment
 
user559633
People still RoR?
 
12:57 PM
I accept your advances.
wat
 
anyone tried mccollough effect
 
Does anyone know of a way to merge all of my commits into a single commit?
 
user6568562
@tristan And they can be a normal choice for a basic consumer if video-games shift to Linux like you imagined.
 
user559633
@randomhopeful Amateurization leads to the opposite. RedHat wants a desktop OS of their own, which you can see in their pitches for systemd. For a mass-audience OS, you have to make the interfaces restricted into simple workflows so people don't get confused
 
user559633
RedHat is like buying drugs from a cop. You get a substandard product and once they get what they need from you, you're in trouble.
 
12:59 PM
@corvid u can do it with rebase I think
 

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