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9:00 PM
@tristan what's the secret?
 
@tristan amializard.com ?
 
It's called the "Icke test"
 
^^The very few jokes in that season that I liked. Well played
 
9:01 PM
@idjaw Apparently I got "You are...a clump of dirt!" - sweet :p
 
user559633
i liked the meta joke where they pretended to write an arrested development season
 
Is there any "defaultlist" type object in python standard libs
 
I'm a clump of dirt as well @JonClements
 
Or should I just use a defaultdict with keys being integers
 
I'm a clump of dirt too:( or :)?
 
9:03 PM
@idjaw Yay! Clump of dirts unite!
 
> You scored 76% on variable 1, higher than 91% of your peers.
 
@tristan I think that was the final cable season?
 
are those numbers random?
Sounds legit:P
variable 1 is the best, guys
 
user559633
@idjaw no, that's from the netflix season (s4) that was just so cynical and dark
 
>You scored 62% on variable 1, higher than 66% of your peers.
 
9:05 PM
@Natecat there is no sparse list built in to Python. But you can search "python sparse list" to get different solutions.
 
@tristan I should have gotten that....
and now for something awesome. Live Portishead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg1jyL3cr60
 
user559633
so many emotions in that song. i don't know know how people over 25 still have that many feelings
 
They've forgotten to numb themselves correctly.
 
^^coincidentally, the song before that track on that album is called numb
 
Strange, I keep on getting 503s back from pypi when trying to register a package.
 
user559633
9:22 PM
status.python.org reported as up
 
Now I'm getting 401s.
Now getting 503s again. At no point have I changed anything in my code :/
 
@Ffisegydd make sure you have a reasonably recent setuptools: pip install -U setuptools
 
user559633
i just realized my neighbors probably think i've been cursing at my girlfriend all day. i've had headphones on and have been talking to myself louder than i thought/cursing at failing unit tests
 
user559633
next time i see them, i'll have to let them know that our relationship is fine, i'm just bad at programming
 
I always worry that my internal monologue is leaking out when I have headphones on. I have to look around every now and then to make sure I didn't mutter something weird under my breath at work.
 
9:33 PM
@tristan That won't sound wierd at all
 
user559633
:(
 
Urgh Anaconda. Why do you hate me so?
 
user559633
@davidism yeah, i thought i was muttering, but the music was loud, so i was actually delivering hate speech at my computer screen at an "outdoor voice" level
 
I'll sort this tomorrow, my python install just sh*t itself.
 
user559633
OSError: [Errno 40] Message too long

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/Cellar/python3/3.4.3/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/logging/handlers.py", line 903, in emit
    self.socket.send(msg)
OSError: [Errno 40] Message too long
 
user559633
9:35 PM
Things are going well!
 
Anaconda is nice because it makes a lot of packages work on Windows that would normally be a pain to get going, but it also messes with pip and so you can't necessarily just pip install -U stuff.
Instead you're meant to conda install but that's always lagging behind.
 
user559633
I'm fucking up so hard that Python has decided that it doesn't even have the room to explain what I'm doing wrong in 8GB of RAM
 
I didn't realize how many Mac setups are totally yammed until I tried to help everyone get set up at the PyCon Flask sprint.
 
Mac is fine (or mine is, anyway)
 
user559633
Anaconda messes with pip? Yuck
 
user559633
9:37 PM
Yeah, my setup is really straightforward.
 
@tristan well, no. Messes with permissions.
 
anaconda, canopy, homebrew, source, default install
every single one resulted in a different set of weird failures
 
Oh I see what you mean. Yeah. Homebrew is the way to go if anyone asks.
 
Oh and pyenv
 
user559633
Ξ code/barcopolo git:(nightly) ▶ python -V
Python 2.7.10
Ξ code/barcopolo git:(nightly) ▶ ve
(env) Ξ code/barcopolo git:(nightly) ▶ python -V
Python 3.4.3
 
9:38 PM
Just settle on one already, Mac people!
 
user559633
never had a problem.
 
user559633
if someone goes offroading and installs everything off the internet in various paths, they'd be just as boned on any OS
 
Also, the number of outdated versions due to no package manager was astounding. I saw 3.4.0, which wasn't that bad, but actually caused problems. The worst was 3.1.3.
 
user559633
i don't know how that's any different than being on ubuntu
 
user559633
if you go outside of what your package manager offers, it's on you or your helper tool.
 
9:40 PM
Ubuntu at least updates point releases.
 
Isn't the default Python 2.x? Until the recent 16.04?
 
user559633
And OSX only offers 2.7.x out of the box. If someone goes down the path of source or canopy/anaconda/brew, that's not on the OS
 
The "default", as in what python points at, will be 2 until 2 is eol.
 
user559633
I kind of know what you mean though as it seems like a lot of newbies on OS X get told that they "should use anaconda" or some other bundler and just make a mess of things.
 
Unless you're on Arch, which points at 3, thus prompting this pep: python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394
 
9:42 PM
@Skullomania Python room. Please go elsewhere.
 
user559633
@Skullomania this isn't the ruby room.
 
I hear the Lounge is very welcoming
 
Nope.
 
in the python room?
dude...
 
@Skullomania does that work in real life? "The McD's down the street was closed, so I figured I'd walk into this 5 star restraunt instead. Where's my $1 burger?"
3
 
user559633
where's that awesome c++ lounge quote about this?
 
Anyway, you're welcome to hang out, but asking ruby questions isn't going to get you anywhere.
 
user559633
well, it will get you snark and kicked out :P
 
I thought that snark is given under all circumstances
 
user559633
9:46 PM
you would think that
 
if I'm bad, I get snark cold turkey?
 
I like that davidism related this room to the 5 star restaurant. <3 :)
 
Aww, you noticed. <3
 
Bah... could have thrown in a few michelin stars as well :p
 
we have to settle for shurikens;)
Where's your god now, Gordon Ramsay?
 
user559633
9:50 PM
Gordon Ramsay Bolton. Halloween 2016 costume locked down.
 
Ramsay's cool - we should get him in to be our MTFL :p
 
BOO NO SPOILERS
just kidding I'm still way in book 2:(
 
user559633
jk i can't read
 
where's that quote about repeating stuff and madness?
 
oops, you got caught in the knives there @Andras, my bad
 
Oh, it's OK:) I thought it was on purpose and I was still OK with it, no worries
 
@ZeroPiraeus cabbage!
 
cabbage
 
user559633
9:54 PM
cbg
 
flips coin twice, smiles
 
like this? (<-- Harvey two-face in hospital, for the faint of heart)
 
Ha, now you see that's interesting, since his insanity involves only flipping the coin once because he assumes the result is definitive.
Or something.
 
yeah, I also had a vague thought along those lines...
but that's as pop-cult as I can get:D
take it or leave it
 
 
2 hours later…
11:39 PM
There's an asker to whom I gave an answer only 1 day after the question back in February. He's been logging in all the time, I've left him the second comment after months asking them to give any sort of feedback to my answer. Annoying.
OP's been completely ignoring my comments as well
(1k rep user)
I know I can't do anything about it, I just wanted to complain
 
11:51 PM
You could add their RSS feed to your feed reader, and add comments to their new questions, e.g.
"Hey, did you get a chance to look at my answer to XXX?"
"Still waiting ..."
"I'm not going anywhere, you know."
"I've never felt like this before, but somehow your silence just makes me need to hear from you more and more."
"Stop fighting it ... we were meant to be together."
... etc.
 
panting in the phone
 
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