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5:02 PM
I wonder if it's possible to write a fully general solution for this question using the not-built-in regex module, which supports recursive groups and can thus get around the pesky "can't parse parens" restrictions usual regexes face.
 
It's rhubarb time for me. But before I go, I'll leave this Meta link for @VigneshKalai: Don't edit a question you think isn't salvageable. Only edit it if you plan to actually salvage it
 
The OP seems happy with my not-at-all-general solution, despite the large number of obvious not-even-edge cases where it won't work!
 
I'm not sure how you would capture only non-parenthesized commas, even still. The module's Pypi page is scant on details.
@jonrsharpe Let the buyer beware :-)
 
DSM
Rhubarb, @PM2Ring!
 
5:06 PM
Could someone hammer this before it attracts even more answers, please: stackoverflow.com/q/33527745/3001761
 
Indeed, the flies are already buzzing and uprooting, @jonshapre
 
DSM
@jonrsharpe: I wonder that all the time. "So your professor won't let you use itertools, but he will allow you to offload the question to strangers on the internet? Would it simplify matters if we sent our answers directly to him and cut out the middleman?"
 
@DSM it's amazing; they'll take your answers but won't give you their qualification. Some people, eh?
 
@jonrsharpe hammered
 
DSM
I don't even have a CS degree. Who knows, it might come in handy!
 
DSM
Well.. to be fair, I once said "zero effort shown, but it's the weekend.." so maybe I shouldn't be throwing stones..
 
@DSM I've taken to writing the code for low-effort questions where it's not completely trivial, then not actually posting an answer.
 
I said something like that before: stackoverflow.com/questions/25422115/…
:D
 
Oh, I'm sure you can find me doing the same thing!
But don't tell R Nar that ;o)
 
DSM
Sometimes I've just posted my few-line answer in here, to bask in everyone's appreciation of its majesty, and let the OP stew. :-)
 
5:18 PM
Eh, [limits-without-lhopital] is a tag on Mathematics
And [limits-without-lhospital] is its synonym...
 
can someone throw the hammer on this one? stackoverflow.com/questions/33528286/…
 
@sobolevn not sure why you marked that as a duplicate, it's not
 
5:54 PM
I have an list like this
[([], [], [], [], [], [], [2.9077100703958676, 2.907707020607246, 2.907696129398862, 2.9076922793200826], [], [0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5], [], [36.85810519942594], [], [0.2967704486953071, 0.29676583084646757, 0.2967657685869129, 0.2967656828144846, 0.2967643025169294, 0.29676414005893625], [], [], [], [], [], [], []), ([], [], [], [20.935136118658637], [1.7247699149091442, 1.7247456715167526, 1.3559139927513728, 1.3559021903808808], [], [1.5831895878032682, 1.5831799549447967, 1.5421635176438928, 1.54216257550671], [3.6722596549808784, 3.6722526678432876, 3.67106832095051
 
@VinodPrime ah yes, the list, that's maybe not a list
 
I want to remove the empty [] n that
 
user559633
Get a marker and draw a line through them
 
i tried watever suggested here stackoverflow.com/questions/20413393/… but it doesn't work
 
@VinodPrime what, precisely, does "doesn't work" mean in this context? Error? Unexpected output? Set your house on fire?
 
5:55 PM
That's because your list doesn't contain any empty lists. It contains exactly one element - a tuple that contains many things.
 
And why do you think such an absurdly long example is needed to demonstrate this - see stackoverflow.com/help/mcve
 
There is a difference between [(...)] and [...]
 
so what I should do ?
 
[mcve] doesn't work in chat :(
 
Probably something like:
1. extract the tuple into its own variable
2. convert the tuple into a list
3. Use the existing linked solution to filter empty lists out of it
4. Convert it back into a tuple
5. Put the tuple back into the list
 
5:57 PM
@VinodPrime strip out one level of nesting? How have you ended up with that structure to begin with?
@Kevin the linked solution will create the list from the tuple anyway
 
Fantastic. Skip step 2 then.
 
ok thanks for the hint
yeah kevin i found solution in stack overflow based on your hint
[tuple(filter(None, tp)) for tp in new2]
 
Looking good :-)
 
anyone who is somewhat versed with docker wanna proofread my powerpoint elevator pitch for the software group at my company?
 
user559633
assign that list to a, then [i for c in a for i in c if i]. list comprehensions are pythonic.
 
6:02 PM
@JoranBeasley I used docker for a hackathon back in December...if that qualifies, I'd be glad to read it.
 
cbg, all
 
thanks tristian both works well
 
sure wanna give me your email in someway that robots wont pick up?
ie base64
:P
 
user559633
@VinodPrime aww, you responded politely, so now i feel bad for lightly trolling. your approach is much cleaner.
 
@JoranBeasley check out my user profile, it should be easy to grab from there
 
6:05 PM
I dunno how much the presentation will teach you about docker but it should certainly make you want to use docker
 
i always needed a hint...basically i used to stuck with keywords which I wanted to search for my query in google
 
@JoranBeasley considering that I'm already sold on Docker...I'd be interested to see what you have to say :)
 
sent :P
 
got it
 
mostly targeted at my software group that tends to use VM's to accomplish this ... but several people spend a whole lotta time trying to get things working that are not related to the code ... hopefully docker will solve that
(as long as someone (with two thumbs...) makes the docker images)
 
6:09 PM
yep...I completely understand. We decided to do that for a hackathon as a proof of concept to show how easy docker makes our lives
We are incorporating paying off tech debt in to our sprints soon, and one of the items is to use docker for certain projects.
 
lol we have alot of tech debt
 
"IT IS … KIND OF" :) Nice touch.
it isn't the easiest thing to understand the first time around heheh
 
heh yeah it took me about 6-8 hours before it finally really started to click on wtf I was doing
 
yeah it all seems a bit like black magic at first
and then it clicks
 
I kept trying to figure out how to do things that docker is not good at or simply cannot do
like create an image "from scratch"
(ie no FROM directive
)
no idea no why I thought I would want to do that
in the course of researching this I pretty much drank the koolaid
 
6:21 PM
Hi Kevin n Tristan
eventhough removing the empty values
 
@JoranBeasley you reminded me about what I did with another docker project for artifactory. I used puppet to deploy it.
 
([2.9077100703958676, 2.907707020607246, 2.907696129398862, 2.9076922793200826], [0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5], [36.85810519942594], [0.2967704486953071, 0.29676583084646757, 0.2967657685869129, 0.2967656828144846, 0.2967643025169294, 0.29676414005893625])
the [] are not vanishing
I want it to be single list instead a tuples
 
Sounds like you want to flatten the list. Google "python flatten a list"
 
ok let me check
 
@idjaw you mean like the docker-compose? Ive never heard of puppet ...
 
6:23 PM
I use puppet heavily at work. This is a short description off their site: puppetlabs.com/puppet/what-is-puppet
 
oh I see automation
 
yes
 
I just googled it
 
no kevin flattening a list is joining everything
i want elements in () to be a single list
 
So, we use puppet recipes to configure the docker containers in to whatever VM structure that is defined using Vagrant
 
6:28 PM
I don't understand the difference between "joining everything" and "having all elements in a single list"
>>> tup = ([2.9077100703958676, 2.907707020607246, 2.907696129398862, 2.9076922793200826], [0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5], [36.85810519942594])
>>> tuple(x for seq in tup for x in seq)
(2.9077100703958676, 2.907707020607246, 2.907696129398862, 2.9076922793200826, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 36.85810519942594)
Mission accomplished, no more [ or ]
 
my mistake
if you see here
 
@JoranBeasley emailed you back. Hope that helps. As mentioned, feel free to ask me about any other type of automation stuff.
 
[([2.9077100703958676, 2.907707020607246, 2.907696129398862, 2.9076922793200826], [0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5], [36.85810519942594], [0.2967704486953071, 0.29676583084646757, 0.2967657685869129, 0.2967656828144846, 0.2967643025169294, 0.29676414005893625])
([20.935136118658637], [1.7247699149091442, 1.7247456715167526, 1.3559139927513728, 1.3559021903808808], [1.5831895878032682, 1.5831799549447967, 1.5421635176438928, 1.54216257550671], [3.6722596549808784, 3.6722526678432876, 3.671068320950512, 3.6710584810218814, 1.4814967342403382, 1.4814744077628512, 1.158833238469524, 1.158820971788903], [0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5], [36.85810519942594], [73.51669471981023], [11.161297964771585])]
two elements are there
 
I see ... yeah no Im going to talk about repos (more a private repo for us .. since the images would likely have deploy keys to allow them to pull our private repos)
 
Same problem as before. Remove the tuple from the list, do the flatten, put it back in the list.
 
6:30 PM
so if I use flatten concept then the two elements are getting merged
 
but I had a hard time thinking of how to incorporate it in the slide show...
thanks for looking it over :) I agree the big lebowski is really the icing :P
 
glad I can help. I hope you win over the masses! :)
 
me too ... I have enough pull here I probably will
 
We really want to use it. We just finally got the time approval..so it's going to be a fun next few months
extra points for doing the presentation in a bathrobe :P
 
yeah making the transition will be harder
lol
 
6:42 PM
Hi all.
 
hello
 
i'm usually a developer in other languages, but now i have a project running with Python. I don't have much experience with that language. Still i want to hear your opinion about a good IDE for python
 
pycharm
 
Pycharm ?
 
Yup, that's what I use.
 
6:43 PM
If another one says that too , then i will use that IDE
 
user559633
i use RuCharm
 
user559633
It's like PyCharm, but if you read the first two letters phonetically in Russian
 
:P
you filthy troll ! Thanks. Gotcha install Pycharm. * leaves *
 
user559633
wow, okay
 
6:53 PM
kevin can't able to figure it out
esp. in removing tuples
 
7:19 PM
cbg folks
 
user559633
hi
 
heya
 
Do you guys understand the difference between Apache and Flask? I'm not a backend developer...
 
user559633
One is a web server, the other is a web framework.
 
@kevin Thanks. That is by far the stupidest mistake I've done. If you're a moderator can you please flag the question? — jarwin 1 min ago
as typo, I guess
Not sure why he wants me to flag his post?
 
user559633
7:25 PM
claim it for denmark
 
So flask would run on top of apache?
like apache would just handle the requests and then pass them to the flask application?
Nvm, net tuts came through for once
 
user559633
behind. yeah the second is closer to reality
 
user559633
you can run flask on a python-based test server, but i wouldn't recommend it behind development environments
 
fair enough, I'm just doing it for a home webpage for funsies
do you guys not speak cabbage anymore?
 
user559633
it's optional and i only really use "cbg"
 
user559633
7:30 PM
i named a project YAMS as an oblique reference to salad lang, but that's it
 
hahaha, thats awesome
I used to be in here a lot a couple years ago and salad lang was all over the place
 
Enthusiasm for the concept varies naturally over time.
 
user559633
7:52 PM
I think it's related to the vocabulary word count depth. cbg == okay. "tomato cabbage potato? me? banana, melon, rbrb peaches and pears" == too much please stop
 
avocado
 
I find that the extended vocabulary is mostly used by newer visitors. I assume they like the thrill of that kind of "secret club" behavior.
 
Anything not English or Welsh === not okay
 
I'm still waiting to hear about the secret knock...there's a secret knock right?
 
Yeah, it goes like this. Listen carefully, I'm knocking right now.
 
7:54 PM
got it.
 
Good ears, there :-D
 
yup...my momma told me that when I was young too.
 
... While in another room. In a different building. In a different city.
 
8:06 PM
@tristan with yams can plugins define template tags?
errr nm thats not how flask works :P
 
user559633
@JoranBeasley i don't understand what you're asking
 
I know
 
Can yams be used to interface with my cat gifs database?
 
got my frameworks mixed up :P
 
user559633
@Ffisegydd what features do you need? because yes
 
user559633
8:13 PM
you could do a sqlalchemy / jsonify(respones=row) endpoint
 
I need it to provide web scale access to my cat gifs. If successful, I may consider also using it for my DSM Fan Fic collection.
For the record, that is fanfic written by DSM and about DSM.
 
user559633
@Ffisegydd You can put that in the SOBROCO database
 
user559633
@Ffisegydd Not kidding, but I have something in the works that could enable that. do you require cat gif streaming or are you thinking more ad hoc cat blob
 
Yes.
 
user559633
8:17 PM
Where are you storing the cat gifs?
 
user559633
E_TOO_REAL
 
Heh
 
user559633
there you go, not powered by yams, but it is > gif
 
dang @tristan that site needs a laser pointer you can control via the web
 
8:23 PM
that would be hilarious
live queue of people having turns playing with a remote control laser
you get 1 min to have your fun before next person is up
 
user559633
twitch, but for living things
 
user559633
sounds like a great idea
 
I give 36 hours before someone gives a cat retina damage for the lulz
 
yeah some dicks would try to blind the cats
maybe a remote control mouse
 
8:25 PM
safer
I like
 
that would be harder to hurt the cats with
and another thats a treat dispenser or something
even better if theres 2 buttons one dispenses a treat the other sprays a water pistol
 
user559633
we're creating something of dubious value
 
@tristan is there a way for plugins to automagically inject into a block definition? or inject a change into base.html?
I dont know why I care ... but YAMS is simillar to projects Ive started more than once
oh lunch
 
8:42 PM
Cbg!
Laser pointers used for cat toys are generally 1mW or thereabouts. They're basically narrow-beam flashlights.
 
@TigerhawkT3 just some FYIs on safety: 1. 1mW can still be dangerous, 2. Cats eyes absorb a lot more light so what is "safe" for a human could be dangerous for a cat, and (most importantly) 3. It says 1mW on them, I've known academics in my old department to test then and find them to be wildly more powerful.
 
I have literally lost track of the closed/reopened question's closings and reopenings.
 
DSM
Anyone in this room who's hurting kittens had best be using an alias.
 
Well, it depends on whether you get a quality laser or not.
 
I remember one academic bringing in a 1mW "laser pointer" that he'd have needed to whole ream of forms to use in the lab, due to its sheer power.
@TigerhawkT3 they can look top notch and high quality, there's a lot of poorly marked lasers out there (not specifically calling you out, but rather warning everyone in general)
The Most Science You Know (TM)
 
I've never heard of reds being overpowered - it's generally the low-quality green ones that have a bunch of extra IR due to no IR filter.
 
Favourite track at the mo.. ^^^
@DSM "chasing" them around is okay though, right?
 
I spent some time back in the day looking for a good laser - finally found a decent 50mW green laser module.
Not laser pointer, laser module. The pointers over 5mW need all manner of safety interlocks.
 
DSM
@JonClements: we'll allow that.
 
@TigerhawkT3 what I'm saying is that I've seen "1mW laser pointers" that are well over the safety limits.
 
8:49 PM
@Kevin lasers sound cool - can we get one on the Orbital Tea Cannon please? :p
 
We might already have one. 90% of the station is unexplored.
 
There was a guy in my middle school that would carry a laser on his shoulder.
 
@Kevin well, there's talk of 5mW stuff, can we get a 1 billion gW one - just to show off and stuff? :p
 
@Jon no we can't.
 
Yes, but it can only use invisible green light.
 
8:51 PM
@Kevin can it do it perpedinicularly ?
 
DSM
@AaronHall: I can sympathize. I carry two guns with me. (flexes)
 
Of course. Lasers can do absolutely anything.
 
I guess I haven't really looked into the Class I lasers much.
 
@Kevin so great... next Tuesday then!? :p
 
I can sympathize too - I carry a chip on mine.
 
8:54 PM
Well, timelines are hard to plan out. When one's orbital platform is made of 40% Soyuz modules, 30% rune-inscribed obelisks excavated from 50 meters below the surface of the moon, it becomes tricky to integrate new tech.
In the intervening time, enjoy the free light show you get from closing your eyes and pressing on them real hard.
 
I got extra copies of Contagion from a Humble Bundle. Anyone want a copy?
 
I'm a big wuss, so I must decline.
 
On further inspection, it seems like a zombie game.
Looks like I also have an extra copy of Abyss Odyssey, a side-scrolling action adventure. Anyone want?
 
I have a copy of Portal 2 if anyone wants too.
 
The laser guy is a brilliant techie, but he's stuck in my old hometown. He'd do really well in a more urban environment...
 
9:00 PM
@TigerhawkT3 I wouldn't mind a copy
thanks. that's really awesome of you
 
@idjaw (key claimed :) )
 
umm... anyone fancy a quick game of Portal 2?
 
you should probably delete the key. I copied it
thanks
 
You're welcome.
 
hmmm...you gave me Abyss Odyssey :P
 
9:02 PM
I did. Didn't you want it?
 
The only game I can play at work is "guess what animal I'm thinking of"
 
I guess cat!
 
Did you actually want Contagion?
 
@KevinGuan A cabbage coloured Zebra?
 
oh I read contagion
haha
sorry wasn't specific
 
9:03 PM
Taller than that.
 
I didn't even see abyss odyssey
 
Tall cat!
 
@idjaw Contagion this time: (key claimed :) )
 
done
 
I daresay that this animal is taller than the tallest cat.
 
9:04 PM
\o/
 
Cat on stilts.
 
and zebras of any color.
stilts only affect altitude, not tallness!
 
@TigerhawkT3 I'll be sure to keep you in mind for any future keys I get I want to dish off ;)
 
so no-one for P2? :( cries
 
9:04 PM
Is it okay with room rules if I ask around for takers on the other 2 copies of Contagion every now and again?
 
Where is your God now?
 
@idjaw Sounds good. :)
 
@TigerhawkT3 sure, though you may want to do it in our social/rec room thing chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/93197/rec-sopython-social
 
Bah, I'm going to boot up steam, and see if I can get someone I don't even know to play P2 :(
 
That picture has no banana for scale, so I can't determine its objective size.
 
9:05 PM
hi all
 
I didn't know that existed; thanks, will do.
 
Feel free to have a look round if you're into gaming @TigerhawkT3. We can also add you to the Google spreadsheet thing we've got there so you can add any games/your steam id.
Me and tristan played some L4D2 the other day. It was good stuff. Voice chat was...abusive...
 
I don't really play much other than LoL and STO. The dozens/hundreds of games in my Steam library are mostly Humble Bundles and wishful thinking. >.>
 
i am trying to combine some dictionaries together. All the dictionaries at the top get populated by another function in another file. Which works. Only thing doesn't work are the main_dict and main_pafa when i try to combine them
when i pull those up they are empty
 
@mri3 I assume in your actual code that the dictionaries you're working with aren't empty?
 
9:10 PM
correct.
they are populated when i run set_cfg() in another module
 
And how are you trying to combine main_dict and main_pafa?
 
And I assume you've printed their contents to check they really are populated?
 
If a dict does not mutate, should I expect its respective keys and values to maintain order?
 
not trying to combine main_dict just combine the others into a main_dict
 
No. Assume nothing about dict ordering.
As even if it does, it's an implementation detail which is subject to change without warning.
 
9:13 PM
I found that out (dicts not maintaining order) the hard wat
way
 
I guess I could depend on it with an ordered dict...
 
Python 2 promises "If items(), keys(), values(), iteritems(), iterkeys(), and itervalues() are called with no intervening modifications to the dictionary, the lists will directly correspond. ", but at a glance I don't see anything similar in 3.X
 
pastebin.com/ymGUF7j5 this is the function that sets those dicts
 
DSM
@Kevin: "If keys, values and items views are iterated over with no intervening modifications to the dictionary, the order of items will directly correspond. This allows the creation of (value, key) pairs using zip(): pairs = zip(d.values(), d.keys()). Another way to create the same list is pairs = [(v, k) for (k, v) in d.items()]."
It's still valid in 3.
 
Nice.
 
9:15 PM
i assumed that once they are set and i attempt to then 'print' or display main_dict it combine the 3 and print them
 
well there we go
 
user559633
@JoranBeasley you can modify the vars that are shared by base.html. it would be trivially simple to write a jinja2 plugin to modify the state of some var
 
@mri3 I wonder if it's a scoping problem. Variables created in one module aren't immediately accessible in another module unless you're doing something special.
 
Dictionary ordering is arbitrary, but not aggressively randomized.
 
If you're doing something like,

x = None
import thing
print x

... and you expect x to have a new value because it gets assigned in `thing`, then you're in for a surprise.
 
9:17 PM
You mean, like, since those were set in another module, in THAT module they are still empty?
set *from another module
 
Without an MCVE it's hard to say for sure. But mmmmabye.
 
i thought maybe the module would have to be reloaded or something after i set them. so it can pick up the changes
 
DSM
mab, ye devs! Mab, I say!
 
oops, I thought that looked weirder than it ought've from just adding extra M's.
 
DSM
(Spent the afternoon talking algorithms with candidate c++ devs. All useful work is done for the day.)
 
9:19 PM
Oh well.
 
how is mabye formed
@mri3 where does set_cfg live and when do you call it?
the way I see it right now, you define a bunch of empty dicts in your config and then create main_dict and main_pafa from those empty dicts ..
how do you expect them to magically have data?
 
Yeah I suspect Kevin has hit t'nail on t'head
 
I don't actually know how to spell. I just look at letter combinations and the word homunculus in my brain gives a confidence value for its correctness.
Then I twiddle individual letters until I hit a local maxima.
 
its at the bottom of the file
 
9:22 PM
@Kevin As long as the first and last are in the right place you're basically there
 
That article about the unimportance of middle letters bothers me because they intentionally picked easy words that scramble well.
 
everything is set into dictionaries above and the set_cfg() sets them in the config module.
 
6 mins ago, by Kevin
If you're doing something like,

x = None
import thing
print x

... and you expect x to have a new value because it gets assigned in `thing`, then you're in for a surprise.
 
yeah, 'sets them in the config module' really doesn't work how you think it does.
 
oh ok
i read online about that implementation so those dicts can be available anywhere i import config which would be helpful but maybe i am doing it wrong
 
9:26 PM
on the other hand,

import thing
print thing.x

_will_ show the value that x was given in the `thing` file.
So in a sense the values are accessible anywhere. You just have to properly qualify the name.
 
if i re-import the module after setting them you think it will work?
 
no, because the dictionaries you're defining in the config module don't know about the values you're giving dictionaries with the same name in another module
 
Plus when you talk about "re-importing" it's probably not working as you think it will.
 
do the setup_cfg stuff in the config module
 
I don't believe code is re-ran or anything.
 
9:31 PM
so when setting the dicts in the set_cfg(), i am basically creating new dicts?
 
if you reload the module it will be but that doesn't change anything
@mri3 yes
each module has its own namespace
also code at the top-level of the module is only run when you import it
so your main_whatevers will always be empty the way it's currently written
 
how can i change it so i am updating in the config module?
 
DSM
Have I expressed astonishment at people's inability to reinvent the idea of dividing a problem into easier-to-handle subproblems before? Probably I have.
 
@DSM perhaps if you divided your astonishment up into sub-astonishments...
3
 
DSM
Ouch.
 
9:39 PM
Maybe they figure there's no point in dividing a problem into subproblems because the human brain isn't multi-core.
 
@DSM I didn't actually mean that as a jab. :-P
 
DSM
My "ouch" was in response to your comedy. :-)
 
I think comedy needs scare quotes.
 
@mri3 Already told you -- do the setup stuff in the config module
Perhaps if we divided the comedy ...
 
thank you
i had missed that
 
user559633
9:51 PM
microastonishments are a serious problem at stackoverflow
 
10:08 PM
@tzaman moved it to the config module and imported the other module and ran the function, now all are blank
thank you for your help. much appreciated @tzaman
 
10:26 PM
@mri3 what does config look like now?
at this point if stuff still isn't working you may want to go read some tutorials on how modules, importing, and namespaces work in python, and if that still doesn't help post an actual question on the site
 
11:19 PM
Slightly OffT, slightly OnT question
When you're on a (coding) roll, what do you guys do? I normally milk it for what it's worth for as long as I can, even if I end up working at 4 in the morning.
Never considered doing anything other than that, but wondering if anyone else has found a better way to channel the roll
 
user559633
11:36 PM
I just keep on it if it's a thing that needs to happen or if it's the weekend and a personal project.
 
user559633
If it's work, I quit at 7 (though i have worked overnight before because i just wanted the task done)
 
11:47 PM
if it is an urgent work matter, I just manage to have full focus and go until it's done. If I'm working on my own stuff, I just put good music or silly tv show/movie to have something in the background and get a coffee and go at it.
 
Okay, so pretty much doing the same thing here. Sometimes worry that going full tilt when in the zone might preclude a potential 'tomorrow' roll through fatigue
But I guess one should make use of the definite roll rather than the possibility of a second one
 
user559633
only you can make that call
 
user559633
yeah, and sometimes you drop context and add days. afk need to eat because i think i might be doing one of those "just do the work and power through" nights
 
as long as your work is ok with flexible schedules
'hey I was on a roll last night so I'll be in late' etc.
which is an email I've sent at 2am before
 
yeah. If you're still expected to show up at 8:30 after pulling a 3AM code-athon...I'd think twice before doing that again. It can burn you out fairly quickly.
 
11:59 PM
Well, looks like my client is also burning the midnight oil. They're looking for a 9am meeting
Damnit
(I'm on a roll for another client, so I can't justify fobbing them off because of it)
 
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