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12:02 AM
Wow...I just got a warning in my gmail that I will no longer receive emails because I reached my drive limit. I was always wondering when that would happen.
 
@shuttle87 according to the docs cx_freeze is the supported method for python 3 executables on win
and the cx_freeze docs state it does have Python 3 support
 
12:19 AM
I'll have to look into that soon
As for now, the development branch of pyinstaller appears to be doing what I need, hopefully it doesn't have any serious issues
 
@shuttle87 sorry I wasn't much help before, I was on my smartphone..
 
@idjaw no need to apologize :) you did point me in the right direction.
 
Good luck!
 
 
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1:53 AM
i use pyinstaller with py2 all the time ... but cant say much wrt py3
 
 
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3:09 AM
I gotta say, I like anaconda for installing Python.
 
3:57 AM
Did anyone know this existed? I'm feeling pretty silly that I never knew this existed...google.com/settings/takeout
 
4:19 AM
there *is* such culture: "..how are you flying? -- `import antigravity`" https://xkcd.com/353/
Though the culture of building software out of reusable parts is not limited to Python. An example of the opposite culture is NIH syndrome.
 
ahoy!
 
@idjaw Yeah, the "data liberation front" is pretty cool.
 
Yeah, started reading about it this evening...all came up because I ran out of space and was warned about not receiving email....now I'm back down to 49% usage..w00!
 
4:31 AM
Almost bedtime cbg and almost rbrb for all.
@JRichardSnape The cool kids always roll their own. The geeky kids like me just keep flogging dead horses.
@AaronHall Anaconda be awesome.
 
Hi all cbg :)
 
Hey, Vineet. How goes it?
 
its great!! ... how are you :)
 
4:47 AM
Not bad. Got a lot of silly web research done today.
 
hello!
 
hi idjaw
s = 0
print [s+=i+j for i in range(100) for j in range(100) if (i+j) %2 == 0 ]
#This is a sample code not actual work

Is there some way to increment a variable's value in linked comprehensions??
 
So you don't really want a list?
 
no not interested in list
 
Then why not something like sum(i+j for i in range(100) for j in range(100) if (i+j) %2 == 0)
 
4:55 AM
    ok ...

    this is the actual code snippet ...

      for current_number in numbers:
        for num in xrange(S - current_number, -1, -1):
            if array[num]:
               array[num + current_number] += array[num]
So here my array index is getting incremented :)
and the return is not the sum of array elements just a particular index of array is returned. like return array[S]
 
Is that part of an MD5 or some sort of checksum calculation?
 
hmm yeah ! ... How many ways are there to get a sum equal to S using the coins you have?

:)
 
A list comprehension is good for creating a list, not so much for modifying an existing one in place.
 
hmm ... my plan was to make entire function into a single lambda .... have too see other ways to do it ... but yeah I realize that linked comprehension won't help me
 
So you have various numbers of different kinds of coins? Are you aiming for all ways to get to all possible sums, or all ways to get to a single sum?
 
5:03 AM
to get to a single sum ... and i have list of different kinds of coins
 
Is there a reason to get to a lambda?
 
hmm .. yeah ...If I am able to get there ... my code length would probably shorten ... since it is a shortest code challenge :)
 
What's the current shortest size?
 
thats my code :) 89
 
And are you passed, e.g. a list like [1, 1, 1, 5, 10, 10, 25] or how do you get the coins.
So numbers is a list of coins?
 
5:08 AM
yes
 
But you must have already set up array, right?
That's more code?
 
https://repl.it/BNFw
This is my complete code !! ... though it not in shrinked form.
 
I'm not seeing it -- maybe need login, maybe need to allow scripts, don't care. But anyway, I'd do something like this:
>>> from itertools import combinations as C
>>> numbers = [ 1,1, 5,5,5, 10, 10, 25, 25, 25]
>>> target = 47
>>> len(set(frozenset(x) for i in range(len(numbers)+1) for x in C(numbers, i) if sum(x) == target))
2
 
Wow awesome! ... i m trying this ... thanks
 
Actually, since combinations maintains lexicographic order, if you are guaranteed that your coins are in order (e.g. not [1, 5, 1, 10, 25, 5, ...]) then you could probably use tuple instead of frozenset.
Otherwise, frozenset() is shorter than tuple(sorted()) I suppose.
 
5:25 AM
coins are not in order ... thanks for helping out ... but was getting TLE using code.
But yeah .. you may enjoy this challenge too :) .. here's the link
https://codefights.com/challenge/umCWSmEzFXEXwXiGb
 
Time limit exceed
 
Ah. More restrictions :-)
 
Well, my solution doesn't fit the problem description anyway. I was assuming the fungibility of two coins of the same value, and the example clearly shows they are treated differently. That simplifies things and maybe makes it faster. Just a minute:
sum((sum(x) == target) for i in range(len(numbers)+1) for x in C(numbers, i))
Something more like that, I think.
 
5:34 AM
It works but exceeds time limit
but yeah ... this gave me a great idea to solve ... thanks :)
 
You're welcome! I'm off to bed.
 
goodnight :)
 
5:50 AM
cbg
 
hello!
 
 
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8:26 AM
Hello! Who does subprocess.check_output return bytes string and not unicode encoded string even in Python 3?
 
9:16 AM
@J.F.Sebastian Fair point; a culture of 'batteries included', and an encouragement to use those batteries.
 
@MartijnPieters I think it's the implication that such an approach is detrimental to programming in the OP that I would take issue with.
 
Hey up robert
How's the life of a free man?
 
:)
Good thanks!
Good but brief
 
9:34 AM
@JRichardSnape I most of all took issue with them wanting to discuss it on a Stack Exchang e site.
 
9:56 AM
What do you mean? — John 56 secs ago
Possible troll...
What do you mean by a function? and what's an argument for a function? — John 57 secs ago
 
10:12 AM
*sigh*
I think some people got the impression that I'm trolling. — John 37 secs ago
 
 
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11:58 AM
cbg!
 
12:38 PM
@idjaw cbg
Getting alembic to run its migrations programmatically - harder than I thought
 
SQL migration tool?
on a Sunday?
 
:P
 
@RobertGrant ?
 
cbg @AnttiHaapala
 
12:48 PM
@RobertGrant are you using mysql :D
 
Yeah
For my sins
 
haha
 
mysql?
alembic cannot deduce anything right with mysql
the sql autogen works pretty well for postgres
 
MySQL is free on PythonAnywhere :)
@AnttiHaapala I want to run alembic upgrade head programmatically at the start of my unit tests
 
don't
run it outside :P
on cmdline
or you want to upgrade db after each setup?
 
12:51 PM
Nah just right at the start
Can nose or something be given a command line thing to run like that?
Or is it better to run a test script that does alembic upgrade then runs nosetests?
 
that's what I do
generally you'd want your unittests be as fast as possible
so take the unnecessary stuff out of them
 
Yeah
Might end up not using this; just want to give it a try
 
1:21 PM
Yeah, typically I try to use mock/flexmock as much as possible in my unittests...keep my tests fast and focus on overall behaviour.
 
I'm freaking out because I made a test alembic ini file, changed the db url and ran upgrade using that, and it doesn't think any migrations need to be run
 
wish I could help you out...but I never used alembic =/ sorry.
 
Anyone got any good programming interview questions? Aimed at beginner programmer level.
 
Write a for loop
E.g. write a program that adds up the odd numbers between 0 and 1000
 
cabbage
 
1:31 PM
FIZZ BUZZ FTW!!!!!
:P
show the total count of a character in a given sentence
 
Yay, I have more than 1,000 flags
 
Where do you keep them all?
 
@jonrsharpe: You didn't select a good dupe target for stackoverflow.com/questions/32933996/… . The OP's trying to remove words from a list, not chars from a string.
 
Cool - works. Thanks!
 
fizzbuzz was the first I thought of.
 
1:44 PM
If you want something a little more advanced than fizzbuzz, try Pascal's triangle.
 
Yeah, I'd say that's intermediate
 
I just saw this cute comment: a misinformed 463 rep user tries to instruct Python core developer Nick Coghlan. :)
@ncoghlan don't use reversed, that creates an entirely new list for no reason. If you want to do it that way, use itertools.islice(somelist, None, None, -1) (not tested, but should work) — cloudformdesign Feb 11 at 23:24
 
haha nice
 
@RobertGrant lol. I just understood what you said :D
 
1:54 PM
hey
 
aye!
 
@PM2Ring found a dupe target
seems like the best way to find a dupe target is to google what they're asking, and look for an SO hit that's substantially identical.
 
That's what I did. :) Alex's answer in that question's pretty good. Although I'm also fond of reverse iteration: that's what I'd normally do in C.
 
that's what I do too.
 
Shall we re-close with that dupe target I found? Ah. I see Aaron's already closed with that regex-based target...
Some people consider it bad etiquette to close a question that you've answered yourself ... :)
Sometimes it pays to stop & think for a little while before rushing in to code. Of course, on SO that's a recipe for getting ninja'd. :) Yesterday I submitted a few different solutions to update all minimums in list to the next minimum.
My first 2 solutions are fairly easy to understand but rather inefficient. My 3rd is a little better, but starting to get overly complicated. And the OP wasn't happy with the inefficiency. But as I was falling asleep I realised that there's a much more efficient algorithm. Oh well. I got there in the end. :)
 
2:10 PM
cbg
 
hello
 
@PM2Ring Hehe, have you seen Martelli's comment on the "borg design pattern"?
 
@BhargavRao Maybe...
 
Here
@Devin, yep, I've heard of the Borg pattern, since I'm the one who introduced it (in 2001, cfr code.activestate.com/recipes/… ;-). But there's nothing wrong, in simple cases, with simply having a single instance with no enforcement. — Alex Martelli Apr 26 '10 at 21:49
If JonCle's around he might find a deleted comment there more amusing :D
 
"borg design pattern" doesn't strike me as a good design for anything
 
2:16 PM
Why? :/
 
Celery question: I am getting TypeError when invoking a celery task in a loop. The first execution of task runs fine but subsequent tasks fail due to TypeError (function takes 1 argument 3 given)
 
If all instances share the same __dict__ or semantic state, you may as well have a singleton. As a user, I expect instances to have separate state.
 
@Anuj Guess we need an [MCVE] here :)
 
@BhargavRao MCVE?
 
The principle of least astonishment (POLA) applies to user interface and software design, from the ergonomics standpoint. It is alternatively referred to as the law or rule of least astonishment, or of least surprise. "If a necessary feature has a high astonishment factor, it may be necessary to redesign the feature." In general engineering design contexts, the principle may be taken to mean that a component of a system should behave in a manner consistent with how users of that component are likely to expect it to behave. == Formulation == A textbook formulation is "People are part of the system...
 
2:18 PM
yes, or SSCCE
 
@Anuj MCVE = minimal and complete verifiable example. It would help to see some code to better assist.
 
Having separate state is the entire point of having instances.
 
This is the function definition
@celery.task
def create_thumbnails(filename, thumbnail_width, send_mail_flag=False):
 
Kinda get Aaron's argument. Though not completely sure :(
 
for index, (image, image_name) in enumerate(images_list):
    save_file(image, image_name)
    create_thumbnails.delay(image_name,ITEM_THUMBNAIL_WIDTH)
and this is the function call
 
2:21 PM
@Anuj Indent with 4 spaces
 
Sorry I did try to indent but it became like this
 
After pasting into browser click on "fixed font" option and then click enter Yep that's how tis done :)
 
Thanks
@BhargavRao Is this code enough to understand or shall i give some more
 
@Anuj I guess, I don't know celery but I was helping you post a good question here. :)
 
This is the error:
Ok Thanks
 
2:26 PM
stackoverflow.com/q/26623509/2301450 ot question in a low-traffic tag
 
@AaronHall I tend to agree. I've never used the borg pattern because of that.
 
Any shared state should be kept in a class-level dict, or operate upon the class __dict__ using a direct reference to the class.
 
Agreed. OTOH, I guess it's tolerable to store such things as instance attributes for performance reasons (instance attributes are faster than class attributes, as Alex Martelli et al mention in Bhargav's link), but when you do that sort of stuff it needs to be clearly & explicitly documented.
 
Am I missing something in how confusing this could be to have shared data across instances?
 
No. :)
 
2:44 PM
I think that depends on how confusing you think it is. It's not confusing to share data from the class directly, or by using a shared state dict referenced from the instance. But to automatically share state through a dotted name on an instance is perverse.
 
Exactly, my confusion point is in the latter part of your answer. I create a new instance somewhere in my code and all of a sudden it is populated with all this "stuff" from existing instances. I just find that by implementing a simple singleton pattern, and understanding how it is used in a code base, just follow suit and reference that instance that was created. Creating a new instance just to grab that shared resource and then having this clustered singleton just seems...convoluted.
 
rbrb, Goin out for a Sunday evening walk :)
 
3:11 PM
> I want find the Dennis Ritchie && Ken thompson's turing award speech.Thx
tagged C and C++
lol somebody answered it with a link to the transcript
 
3:28 PM
numpy question: Trying to execute some code I found online which involves the following line
>a = 1.0 * np.array(data)
and I get a TypeError
>unsupported operand type(s) for *: 'float' and 'numpy.ndarray'
The code has probably been written for python 2.x, I'm running 3.4. I haven't worked with np.array so far, so I don't know exactly what the code does.
Just clearing up what the actual line does would be enough help, I should be able to figure out how to do it in python 3. Any help is appreciated.
 
3:39 PM
umm.... a = np.array(data) * 1.0 ?
Although, seems really pointless... just use a = np.array(data, dtype=float) maybe?
 
So all that line would do would be to map 1.0 * to every array element?
 
Yeah... weird way of ensuring they're floats...
 
user559633
G'afternoon puppy
 
and to you @tristan - how goes it?
 
user559633
Good; tired. Worked until 0300 last night, working on a socket API now (related to yams)
 
3:44 PM
cbg all!
 
rhubarb
 
user559633
cbg @shuttle87
 
user559633
take care pm
 
I'm sorry guys, the problem was somewhere else in my code. The array didn't contain float values, but strings... now even that weird line seems to work, thx.
 
Just came from PyCon India, somebody said that somebody was saying sopython is just a bunch of bullies :(
 
user559633
3:46 PM
@GeckStar No worries -- thanks for following up before someone troubleshooted a non problem
 
user559633
@ChillarAnand Then that person is a fucking idiot. We're far nicer than most deserve and more patient than all but paid support channels.
 
@tristan I know that. I was wondering why he said that!
 
@ChillarAnand That's unfortunate, I find this room to be very civil/friendly as far as anonymous online chat rooms go.
 
@ChillarAnand Obviously someone that's been a nuisance here then :p
heya @shuttle87 - long time no see
 
@shuttle87 Me too. I got very polite replies & lots of help from this roo.
 
user559633
3:50 PM
I've never known us as a community to be rude or abrasive to people that are polite and/or follow the rules that we suggest. Our jokes and conversation may be "off color" from time to time (and while offense is taken and not given, that could be considered a flaw), but those that dismiss us as rude typically are disrespectful and confuse an online community for a customer service center.
5
 
@JonClements I got kidnapped by Java and c# for a while. Hopefully managed to escape now!
 
user559633
4:03 PM
Welcome back
 
user559633
4:28 PM
Greetings bereal
 
@tristan hello!
 
@tristan I've known paid support channels to be far less patient and far, far less competent
 
user559633
@RobertGrant I've been a worker bee at a paid support channel and there's been times that I've put in more effort here than I did then.'
 
:)
My application that does stuff with employees calls their model WorkerBee
 
user559633
That's a pretty good name.
 
4:37 PM
“Worker bees can leave.
Even drones can fly away.
The Queen is their slave.”
 
But that doesn't filter through to anything the user sees :)
 
user559633
Typically slaves aren't fat, served on, and don't spend all day going through offspring-making exercises.
 
Yeah, the problem is the drones and worker bees can only go and find another hive or die :)
 
user559633
@RobertGrant There may be a reason I've named my automation/system admin API "yams" instead of just "fuck"
 
It's more like a parasite/host relationship
@tristan yams; I like it
 
user559633
4:41 PM
It's probably a few months away from being useful. And about a year from being coherent.
 
A bit like my system
Are you using Are you wrapping OTRS?
Or Ansible?
 
user559633
 
user559633
There will be an ansible/puppet/chef dispatcher, but it's more of a plugin system/command chainer
 
Oh sorry OTRS is not what I thought it was
Coming from T-Systems I tie helpdesk and IT automation together in my head
 
user559633
Ah, yeah, one of the features that I'm working on supporting early on is a drag/drop flow chart maker so users can describe tasks visually
 
4:48 PM
Wow, okay nice. Can suck a lot of time that sort of thing?
 
user559633
On the back end, I'm handling each "box" in the flow chart as a snippet/task that corresponds to a plugin endpoint and args, each line is ordering, and you can save/schedule/run those actions
 
user559633
@RobertGrant I don't understand
 
Just getting the UI consistent across browser
 
user559633
Oh, yeah, I'm just going to focus on latest firefox and chrome. I don't pretend to know or really care about cross-platform.
 
But maybe things are a bit more standard now; I haven't done drag and drop for a long long time
 
user559633
4:50 PM
I'll probably get help with that from one of my coworkers. I work with some very bright and curious people.
 
You can probably sell that sort of thing for a lot of money; open source alternative to something like HPSA
Sorry, not open source. Unless it is.
 
user559633
Yeah, I probably could. I'm more interested in freeing people from tedious work. It's open-source
 
Ah, that's cool
What sort of commands might it chain together?
As in, what's a tedious thing you have in mind that it'll make easier?
 
user559633
from a hand-wavey level: IF [receive a push notification on the release branch of project] THEN [create servers in amazon, tagged with [QA, release-branch-name]] AND ([notify users in room QA in HipChat] AND [notify YAMA (yams client-agent) to start regression tests])
 
Okay that's cool :)
I will totally use that
 
user559633
4:58 PM
then because the tasks were queued up and went through the event subsystem, the YAMS tasks api would reflect the status of current jobs. say the build fails -- new chain to notify the person that pushed code to that branch last, open a jira ticket, check AWS endpoints to see if there's a failure (maybe S3 storage is being stupid?)
 
Yeah, very nice
Integration is my game, so I always appreciate stuff that ties things together smartly
Well, part of my game
 
^^ aye. Same here
 
user559633
i converted status.aws.amazon.com to a json feed last night and will be working on logstash, statsd, and twitter API plugins during downtime at work so that the YAMS front-end can get a "report a problem/outage" page that automagically pulls in context around the time of the report (aws -- is there an issue beyond our control, logstash -- related services vomiting errors?, statsd -- server load? more http 400s,500s?, twitter -- are people noticing?)
 
user559633
@RobertGrant Once the call signatures/interchange format is more coherent/standardized, i'd appreciate your help building it
 
user559633
i mean, that goes for anyone
 
5:04 PM
That's awesome! We are actually performing some root cause analysis based on what we get from logstash in jenkins. It gets very messy. What is your approach for the different kinds of error reporting across different systems?
 
user559633
@idjaw Standard interchange format so that the fields line up.
 
Sure, very happy to help
 
Cabbage!
 
user559633
5:16 PM
@idjaw Yes sir. Having GitHub issues like "I wish there was a jenkins plugin that did X, Y, Z" would be very helpful
 
user559633
hey antii, poke
 
I wish there were a GitHub integration that would create GitHub issues for the project
 
@RobertGrant That’s actually possible
 
user559633
@RobertGrant If you're not kidding, then add the issue and I'll work on it this week
 
5:18 PM
@tristan So, I read the readme, but still have no idea what yams is.
 
user559633
@poke That's actually a really important issue I have on the project :P
 
haha :D
 
Wow, you’re not kidding :D
 
5:23 PM
@Tristan nono I'm kidding; I'll add issues myself like a non-dick
I don't know what it needs yet :)
 
user559633
@RobertGrant I didn't think that was rude at all -- GH issue getter/updater is a very helpful suggestion
 
That confuses me even more
 
user559633
I'm mostly just creating GH issues and doing skeleton structure for notes I was writing while stuck at an airport.

I really want YAMS to be a 1-to-many standardized/wrapper JSON API (e.g. one of the desired endpoints grabs messages from twitter and returns them as JSON), external node classifier, and command chainer
 
user559633
But yeah, I need to either get a lot more code in the repo or explain what I have in mind far more coherently in order for it to even be worth talking about
 
@tristan Maybe a running example would help a lot
 
user559633
@poke A very good idea. Thanks
 
5:56 PM
@tristan this sounds amazing. I'd love to get involved.
 
greetings all
 
Hi @JGreenwell :)
 
hello @JGreenwell
 
sopy as bullies? Reminds me of a study I saw recently on academia about the growing need for counselling for college students due simply to self-esteem issues (including teachers being afraid to give bad grades) and a lack of basic understanding of how to be responsible for themselves.
greetings vaultah and idjaw
 
user559633
@Ffisegydd that would be great :)
 
user559633
6:09 PM
@JGreenwell i read something similar -- professors changing their syllabi because they were afraid they'd get fired (due to poor reviews) if they didn't align with their incoming students' perceptions of the world
 
Is this happening at the Collegial level?
 
yes, esp. young/new professors who have no way to contract the reviews
 
Are online reviews for professors more trustworthy these days? I graduated a long while ago, so that system was really really bad back then.
 
I would never trust them.
Too many people who may have a grudge over messing about in class and failing.
 
not really, but the reviews we're talking about are more internal reviews through the college (ie. the feedback portions at the end of semesters)
 
6:13 PM
Ah OK. I thought we meant websites
 
same here
 
Though I wish more of these were face to face (did that once with my dean when a new class was introduced and it was helpful)
 
I found my undergrad very very disappointing unfortunately. Most of my professors were very unapproachable. You can really feel the "I just want to research" oozing out of them. It was very frustrating.
 
user559633
Are student reviews of professors not a thing outside of the US?
 
student reviews?
really??
 
6:16 PM
Havard median GPA is A- <- one of the articles
 
We do have them in the UK.
But it's more actual feedback then scores (at least at mine)
So rather than "rate the lecturers fashion sense" it's "what did you like and not like?"
 
user559633
They're feedback in the US, but if a student states "professor refused to acknowledge integer privilege" in a math course, there could be consequences for the professor
 
I've had a few professors were I worked massively hard on a project and earned an A only to find that other people who did half the work also got an A - infuriating but at least I actually know the material. I've also had professors where I was proud of earning a B (networking + me = ugh)
 
We should just abolish lectures and have every one teach every one else.
 
On the night I submit my first application for a lecture ship, I refute that notion :D
 
user559633
6:23 PM
I had a literature professor at NYU give me an A- because she thought I was dialing it in towards the end of the semester (although recognized it was better than other A-work in the class), which ruined my up-to-that-point perfect GPA.
 
Going straight from PhD to lecturer? Ballsy, Snape.
 
He who dares, Rodney
 
user559633
I would attend lectures by JSnape
 
I've never had much luck with lectures but I'd still attend :)
 
Ahh, I'm touched :)
 
6:25 PM
I'd have thought you'd abandoned the notion of academia to avoid the eventual Professor Snape joke.
 
user559633
@JRichardSnape Typically the cardinality is different in the lecture/student arrangement.
 
I embrace it Fizzy. Although as a non-Potterian, I don't really know what Severus got up to...
 
Just channel your inner Rickman.
 
I do remember loving the lectures for my "Data Structures & Algorithms" classes but have recently found out that many programming students are getting waived from taking that class.
 
:(
Surely that's bedrock stuff
 
user559633
6:29 PM
My right ear has refused to pop since a flight I took a week ago and it's making me hard of hearing. Thankfully, my other senses are making up for it. For instance, my fashion sense has been impeccable.
 
Stick a needle in it.
 
@JGreenwell That's ridiculous! Seriously? I did not appreciate that class when I took it. Then once I graduated I started realizing how important that class was and I went through Skiena's algorithm design manual.
 
user559633
@Ffisegydd Instructions unclear. Stuck in eye. Now blind. Sense of humour has improved. I now can watch Ricky Gervais shows.
 
yep, actually had one student say: "We don't need to start learning programming by being handed a pencil and piece of paper and told to logical describe the steps to solve problem X - cause IDEs make this unnecessary"
 
user559633
 
6:36 PM
@JGreenwell oh wow
 
haha
 
user559633
i imagine you just hit him until he was a fine mist
 
Is pymotw.com/2 a good reference? I see it is for Python 2.7, but the Python 3 version (pymotw.com/3) does not cover all the modules.
 
I had a little more patience.....brought about by having students say stuff like: "I hate arrays so I just don't use them" (and then wonder why he got a D on an assignment). And that's not even the most ridiculous statement I heard this week
 
^^That reminds me of Chris Rock's skit when he was trying to buy a car "How many turn signals does this car have? Take the right one out, I'm a left turnin' $#&&$"
 
6:40 PM
I made that person listen to me as I described - in full detail - the difference between arrays, lists (which is what he was using), tuples, sets (which is what he should have been using), and table structures (hashmaps/dicts/custom classes/etc).
His brain melted by the end
 
user559633
life hacks: tell a professor that part of the topic is pointless and get a free tutoring session
5
 
7:09 PM
ways to identify a professional developer #27: Say "Towers of Hanoi" and wait for a reaction.
 
Ways to identify a professional developer #117: Smell.
 
That's shows a lack of taste, Fizzy
 
user559633
7:43 PM
Maybe he meant that professional developers smell good because they benefit from not doing sweat-causing manual labor
 
Yeah. Yeah sure.
 
user559633
I'm surprised yaml doesn't have stdlib support in py3
 
8:03 PM
✓ <- I wonder if this works in windows default UI font
 
@AnttiHaapala It’s in Segoe UI Symbol.
 
 
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