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10:00 AM
hmm
That sux
 
@Duikboot What do you mean by that exactly? And more to the point, why exactly are you tied to access?
 
@DaveRandom it's an awesome CSV based relational data store
 
And "because the client says so" isn't good enough. Clients don't know what they want.
 
/me hides
 
10:02 AM
@MadaraUchiha Hey!
 
Look in this database are multiple tables, I have to fetch data from them to create a status report for different projects.
 
actually, today I had people asking why doctrine doesn't support MS SQL Server 2000
 
@KumarGaurav Hi
 
that's when I was 12 years old!!!
 
@MadaraUchiha How are you?
 
10:02 AM
All the data has to start from MSAccess
 
@Ocramius dafuq
 
ages...
 
@KumarGaurav Good, and you?
 
@DaveRandom amazing what people want, heh? :)
 
@MadaraUchiha Cool. :)
Need a help.
 
10:03 AM
Hey @Ocramius you'll enjoy this: I recently had to write a userland dBase III impl...
 
what the frick is that?
 
@Duikboot What do you mean "start from"?
@Ocramius You remember FoxPro? It's that, but like 15 years older.
 
That there is no option to use an other database system, there are multiple people using that MSAccess db and I can't say to them 'please stop using it' that is no option.
 
wao
things the internets has...
 
@Ocramius People are welcome to add that support in Doctrine =D
 
10:04 AM
It's like building a car with stones, because you know, you want to support egyptian legacy drivers.
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I am developing a site on which I am putting an icon of facebook , on click of which I want the user will automatically liked the facebook page of that website owner.
@MadaraUchiha
 
@KumarGaurav Sounds like a <a><img></a> solution to me.
 
@Duikboot Well there is an alternative actually. I assume the reason is that they are using a GUI built in Access? Well, you can decouple the data store from the GUI and use Access as a front-end for SQLServer, which does have viable *nix drivers.
It's a horrible, horrible thing to do but it's better than the Windows-based server option IMO
You will need to understand VB6 and be able to rewrite a few bits and pieces of SQL though, probably
 
@MadaraUchiha I have never been in website development . For the first time I am doing this. Can You explain a little. so that i can understand it please or if any reference you can provide me?
 
I am capable of doing it but I would charge a lot for that because I really don't want to do it.
 
10:08 AM
blegh
I was thinking there was an easier solution
 
@Jimbo no; i cant see who cast individual votes
 
@KumarGaurav <img> is the tag for an image, <a> is for link. Google them both, you should be fine.
 
@Jimbo errm. what?
 
@MadaraUchiha I am able to do this. But what for "like" event?
 
@Duikboot You are well and truly out of luck I'm afraid, this is precisely why no professional developer worth his salt thinks Access is anything other than basically useless. Although I realise you do still sometimes have to deal with it.
The quickest and easiest solution is to just use a Windows-based server, but that does suck.
 
10:10 AM
@Gordon Hi. How are you?
 
@KumarGaurav busy. thanks. you?
 
So if I have a windows server I can
read the database
 
@Gordon Gr8! I am good.
:)
 
@Duikboot Yeh you just install the redistributable package I linked before and off you go
(obviously it will need PDO_odbc installed as well)
 
Do you know a site that offers a crappy free windows server so i just can test it
 
10:12 AM
@MadaraUchiha there?
 
@Duikboot I doubt there is such a thing
 
@Duikboot Well if you want a free windows server for testing, just set one up on your computer (assuming you run Windows)
 
Windows server costs money to install
 
@KumarGaurav The like event is well documented with facebook developers.
You should read it up on their site.
I don't work with facebook often so I don't know how to do it.
 
Im on OSX
too bad :P
 
10:12 AM
Don't you have bootcamp?
or else a VM
 
yes
I have parallels running
 
Then go on windows:p
So you do have Windows...
 
@MadaraUchiha Okay! Thanks by the way. You guys are doing great work. :)
 
Yeah I have a paralelles for x-browser testing
So what do I need that driver, my database, a WAMP running too probably
 
10:15 AM
^^ those things
must... not... complain... about... WAMP
 
@salathe Are the opcache people going to add the two missing functions to the docs?
 
What are windows users using then?
 
@PeeHaa I wouldn't count on it
 
I use wamp because I'm lazy
 
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A: Send data to a php function using .ajax

Yogesh SutharYes, for that you have to check which function you have to call. Also there is no need to pass the POST parameters inside function because $_POST is superglobal array you can access them inside function without passing via parameter. type: "POST", url: "some.php", data: { name: "John", location:...

 
10:17 AM
@salathe hmmmmm. I'll ask the docs list? And will try to at least add something this weekend when nobody tells me to stop
 
hello friends,
i have this php form with id (auto incremented, in mysql db).
What shall be the logic i shall use to generate a id based on the order by customer? He may use this id in all his communications to me?
Any !dea friends?
 
@dragon112 lolzz I decided to install php,mysql,apache separately but because of laziness I also installed wamp server.
 
@Duikboot One of the things I do professionally is administer servers, I hate WAMP/XAMPP because I know how to set things up "properly" (i.e. separately) and I can see what a mess they have made of the components internally. But for Bob the Windows User who just wants a simple Apache/PHP/Mysql setup and doesn't really care how it works, they are fine
 
:D
I don't give a damn how it works as long as it does, It's only for testing :D
 
allright plugin installed step 1 done.
 
10:19 AM
@Ashis learn sql
 
okay, any other solution?
 
Wamp or xampp
 
@Ashis nope
 
anyone else friends?
 
@PeeHaa CC aharvey too, since he did the initial docs work
 
10:20 AM
@salathe will do tnx
 
@Ashis If you are working with SQL then the only solution to not knowing how to do something SQL is to learn SQL. I'd have thought that was kind of obvious...
 
@Mr.Alien we have mysql, oracle, mongodb,etc... too :P
 
"I want to know how to drive to work but I don't know how to drive and I don't want to learn. Any other solution?"
 
@Ashis if you do not want to learn sql, here is a nice alternative: hire a fucking developer
 
@YogeshSuthar let him finish the base mysql first
 
10:21 AM
i think my question is wrong, the right question is the id i already generated with database, i want to add it to some random number so that it look altogether as a order number.. with id attached at the last... got it?
 
@Ashis What's wrong with just left-padding with zeros?
 
just i was thinking to get the logic, so i came here..
 
$new_number = rand(0,1000000) . $id; :D
 
yeah something like that
 
@Ashis ok, I will give you a hint, AI ids are used so that you can target a specific row, say you want to delete a row with word hello, but 2/3 rows are having word hello, so here you can make use of ids to delete that particular row
 
10:23 AM
I really don't get why companies always want non-sequential order numbers to make the number of orders look bigger, it just makes no sense to me at all
 
@YogeshSuthar do i have to add :D at the last?
 
also further, you can use these id's as foreign keys to another table
 
That deserves a star
 
hehe
 
@Ashis Yeah its necessary.
 
10:23 AM
okay
 
@YogeshSuthar thanks
 
@Ashis that is called concatenation...
 
:D i was talking about @YogeshSuthar
 
@YogeshSuthar least case, but rand id can be duplicated
 
10:24 AM
@Mr.Alien lolzzz
 
pheeew, njoy with him
 
Good Morning ...
 
morning @Baba
 
@YogeshSuthar How are you doing ?
 
@Ashis use the code not :D ok
 
10:25 AM
@Baba mornin
 
@Baba Fine. :)
 
@Mr.Alien How are you doing ?
@YogeshSuthar cool
 
@YogeshSuthar i know, i was just kidding, :p
 
@Baba am fine ya, howz your project going on?
 
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Q: hi i am a beginner in php, i need to run image slider from mysql

Poornachandari need complete steps for retriving images from mysql and to display in image slider.... .............................................................................. this is what i have -- actually what i need is , the complete steps ... thank u... ...............................................

joke of the day ^^^^^
 
10:26 AM
Read his Name ^^^ ?
 
@Mr.Alien it has kept me busy ... i also had to learn a new language because of some limitations
 
@Baba you are lone working on the project?
 
@Mr.Alien It should be Kamchor. :P
 
@Mr.Alien Nope but am the chief architect
 
@Baba woo, that's great :) @YogeshSuthar lol, also known as aalsi
 
10:28 AM
@Baba awesome,
 
Thanks Guys .. I really appreciate.... when the beta is ready .. i would bring it here for review and constructive criticism
 
@Mr.Alien Care to explain? :-)
 
@Gordon I called her a rude word then decided to replace it with an description of said word
 
@Baba I never signed up for "constructive"
 
@DaveRandom lol
 
10:30 AM
@Jimbo best not to *provoke her if she's allergic to you anyway
 
@DaveRandom You actually signed up then?
 
I remember a blood pact, I forget exactly what the terms were. I know there was some kind of rite involving head of frog and eye of newt...
 
@Jimbo yea, just like the big bang uses some cheesy words but in a polite manner
@DaveRandom what>?
 
@Gordon *provoke :-)
 
@DaveRandom if you are asking about this word "Aalsi" that means lazy ;) in hindi/gujarati
 
10:33 AM
@DaveRandom Blood pacts are scary man.. O_o
Have you ever seen Supernatural?
 
@Mr.Alien What about Poornachandar and Kamchor ?
 
@DaveRandom i'm a non native speaker. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/provocate says I may use that :P
 
Silly Germans
 
> this word is usually an error for provoke by non-native speakers.
 
I actually googled provocate ;) - just to see if it was legit
 
10:35 AM
@DaveRandom poornachandra is a name, even I dunno it's meaning hehe, but I can break the words in 2, poorna means "Complete" and chandra means "Moon", also kaam chor can be breaked into 2, kaam - Work, chor - Thief...
 
@Gordon It's one of those English irregularities that we created specifically to confuse foreigners. On a related note, is there some rule that means "how is x called" is more logical than "what is x called"? That's an error I see a lot specifically from German natives
 
@Jimbo it's a literal translation from how you ask for it in german
@DaveRandom you dont ask "was wird das genannt" but "wie wird das genannt"
and wie => how
 
@Gordon the words I shared in the morning, are they german or any of the one is a slang? or some street word?
 
@Mr.Alien standard german. no slang
 
@Mr.Alien I'd guess the former was probably "full moon" once upon a time then, but I still don't get why chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/11015981#11015981
 
10:38 AM
@Gordon Thank google failed to translate one of the word
@DaveRandom yea, can be said as full moon, btw I was pointing out the locality of the user ... the moment I see a crap quest, I feel it's from my country (even I've asked) ;)
 
Is this correct in php?
$order_num = "ABC" . GETDATE() . $id;

GETDATE() to add the current date of the order
?
 
@DaveRandom Indians keep the names which have meanings, if you take my name, it says Prosperity..
 
yeah
 
@Gordon Yeh I think you possibly use wie in a lot of places we use what. Like you don't ask "what time is it" you ask "how late is it"
 
@Mr.Alien are you indian?
got it from ur profile pic
 
10:41 AM
yap
 
@Mr.Alien what could be the answer to my ques?
 
@Mr.Alien There is definitely some kind of cultural oddity that means India seems to produce a lot of help vampires. It must be irritating for those who aren't because I do have more of an instant switch-off when I see an Indian-looking name
 
^ same
 
@Ashis getdate() returns an array, you want something that returns a string (like date())
@Gordon No speakers :-(
 
10:43 AM
@DaveRandom yes, again it depends, here, company works the same way, do you know any of the indian company who leads in IT industry? I just know handful of those, here, they pick up the codes, modify them and sell, get the money, job done, that's how things work here
 
Fucking Twitter.
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Q: Put Hashtag in parameter's value

user2372006I'm trying to redirect user when he log in. In my website, you can log in from different places (on the main menu, on some pages, etc.) so I want that after the user is log in, he ll be redirect to the page he was before. I got a long code for that process, but the problem is in the log in pane...

 
@DaveRandom "what watch?" "10 watch" "such much"
 
Not everything with a hash is a fucking hashtag.
 
@Gordon Lol:p
@Bracketworks #Trending #StackOverflow
 
%TWITTER_IS_NEET AM I DOIN IT RITE!!?
 
10:45 AM
NOES!
FAYUL
 
@Mr.Alien It must be a symptom of rapid transition from 3rd->1st world country. The Chinese are also notorious for making whole industries out of copying other people's ideas almost exactly
 
both are same, they are only ahead in population and crime rate, if you search for place called bihar, girls are rap88 on the streets, and teased in front of public, things are pretty insane here and will be insane till some young guy rules... but the moment anyone tries to make better system, he is shot dead
 
@Mr.Alien lol, I once worked with an Indian *ahem* gentleman, who insisted on (long after it was dead) getting in on the Groupon scheme. In the end he purchased from another Indian gentleman, a CakePHP based Groupon clone. So his copy was a copy.
 
That awkward moment when you realize the Lion bar you was just about to eat is made by Nestlé
 
@Bracketworks everytime you work with an indian guy, before he starts a project, instead of preparing the work env, he will go to google in search of codes... here hardly any one makes things from scratch
 
10:50 AM
my condolences
 
@Mr.Alien The western world favours character assassination over actual assassination (most of the time) but the same thing basically happens here
@Gordon I don't get it :-S
 
.. and all this time I thought that I had to work with bad developers
 
@Gordon lol
> Lion Bar is a chocolate bar made by Nestlé.
 
atleast you people stay in developed countries, am listening this line since I was in KG "India is a developing country" ...
 
Wikipedia first, line.
 
10:52 AM
@Mr.Alien well .. Latvia can loosely be described as "second world country"
 
Is there any concrete answer to the question of "why do Indian programmers do what they do?"
 
@Bracketworks Isn't the answer to that the same as all the other programmers out there?
 
@Jimbo No, I don't think it is. This one requires diplomacy.
 
@Bracketworks some are really good, some just don't give a damn, I make things from scratch, my boss says to pick up and start modifying, we don' t have tym, but when I will be going for my own stuff, it is and will be from scratch.. always
 
@Mr.Alien No, I understand, there are good and bad everything; the stigma, where does it come from?
 
10:54 AM
@DaveRandom Nestlé is evil. I try not to buy from then. It's just hard because they got their fingers in so many products.
 
Was there a single Indian guy who fucked it up for the rest?
 
@tereško atleast your politicians don't suck peoples money, check this guy, he roams freely here
 
@Mr.Alien then you should answer to your boss "yes, sir" and write from scratch anyway
@Mr.Alien and actually we kinda do , just the scale is smaller since latvia has something like 2'300'000 people in total
 
@Bracketworks I guess environment matters, if env is energetic, passionate, 1 will like to do something, else he will end up sitting in a garden with his girl discussing about future
@tereško yest I wrkd in office for 14 hours, it kinda gets hectic, I do start from scratch, but if they want a website with CMS in 2 days, what he does is pick up a joomla template, modify a bit and hand it over to the client, also small offices don't have teams, there are just 2-3 guys working
 
@Mr.Alien ... Ok, how about this. There was a message starred E_INDIAN. Why was that unsurprising, but we wouldn't expect or probably understand E_SLOVAKIAN?
 
10:57 AM
@Bracketworks that was jimbo or jasper hehe
 
Yeah, who wrote that message? Bloody terrible, that.
 
@Jimbo lol
Bah. Smoke time.
 
@Jimbo E_NGLISH
 
@Gordon E_NGRISH*
:D
 
@Gordon As much as I am on board with the principle of that kind of thing, it just doesn't work. Unless everybody does it, no-one will take any notice. I try not to buy anything made by GSK but that puts 30% of the stuff on your average supermarket shelf out of bounds :-(
 
10:58 AM
@Mr.Alien that explains why most of indian sites are so crappy
 
G_E_RMAN
@tereško check out our gov sites and wonder why russians hack them always
 
in LV a small scale site is expected to be made in a month
 
yes ^^^ but instead of goodwill, they want to earn money
 
@DaveRandom I don't care if other people do it. I do it. For my conscience. And if other people do it for their conscience, then it's a win. It just doesn't need other people for me to do it.
 
well .. a "small site" here costs like a car
 
11:00 AM
I have made a website which I will represent as my own company , not yet released, why, am lacking some service content there, I don't want to pick up paragraphs from other website and use it on mine
 
"medium site" costs like an apartment
 
We sell a static website for around 7K INR (Stable company)
 
"large/corporate site" is a service , you either pay cars-worth of money or have in-company department dealing with it
 
anyway, its 1300 already and I didnt do any work yet. So, laters.
 
tada
 
11:02 AM
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A: I need to run image slider from mysql

lord_linusFirst learn, How you can ask a good question here : http://stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-ask

what an answer. lolzzzzzz
 
@Gordon My point was more that more action should be taken, rather than less. I'm not suggesting you should stop avoiding things, instead more people should be avoiding them and explaining why they should be avoided to others (Nestle were not at all on my radar of such things)
 
Hi Everyone
 
@YogeshSuthar check this answer
We are getting a new question here.. all set
 
@DaveRandom well, inform @cryptic about it. She'll organize a Rally and an Occupy :)
 
11:05 AM
Is there a standard HTML copy of RFC2616, properly linked/cross-referenced? There's plenty of TXT copies, etc.
 
@Mr.Alien static site usually requires 2 weeks (most of that time is used by designers). Costs $500 - $1000 (depends on designer, again) and does not come with CMS. Instead client expects to have contact information of developer, who can change content if/when it is required for $50 - $100.
 
Anbody will know about, How to write the php and JSON database for android app?
 
Here it comes ^^^
 
A JSON database, this can only end well
 
@MohanRaj you bring shame to your tribe
 
11:06 AM
Hello guys,
I have a quick question.

Is it "Ghetto", as in a bad way of handling to always Extend the controller class (In MVC stractures) to use it's variables/methods?
 
@tereško wtf, I should consider to shift to your country, here, static websites cost around 100-120$ and they expect us to finish that in 2 days
 
BAAAHAHAHA
 
PLB
Prices are pretty much the same here, but people don't pay for changes.
 
2 mins ago, by Mr. Alien
We are getting a new question here.. all set
 
@JunatanmDegraded "Ghetto"????
MVC in da hood
 
11:07 AM
I like that song
 
@Mr.Alien that's the cost (but not time) that you expect from a friend/relative for static site, without a professional designer.
 
As I described after it, "As in a bad way of handling"
 
Uncaught exception 'IndiaCameOnlineException'
 
@Bracketworks Lol
 
@tereško yea, anyways, more a year or 2 till I feel I learn much to start things of my own
 
11:08 AM
I know, it's just a very odd way of describing it
 
In other words, is it bad to always extend the controller class to use it's variables/methods, so you don't need to create a new instance
 
@JunatanmDegraded Emphasis on very odd.
@JunatanmDegraded By extending it, you'll still need to instantiate it.
 
@JunatanmDegraded this kinda made no sense. It is not uncommon to have a Controller superclass that gets extended, because there is some shared behavior, but I get the feeling that it's not what you meant.
@JunatanmDegraded how can you not make a instance , if you have extended a class ?
 
@tereško: thank you, But i new to the software platform.
 
@dragon112 You're on a phone, aren't you?
 
11:11 AM
@MohanRaj i suspect that what you want to look at is actually SQLite
 
@Bracketworks Nope just too lazy to work
 
Well, let's say I don't want to make multiple database connections, therefore I've set a variable at the controller class named $db which holds the connection.

and to access it, I need to create a new instance of controller, but my constructor in controller, already runs a method, therefore I've set a new boolean inside the constructor, if it's true, then run the method, else, constructor will not run any methods.

I don't really like that way, nor like to use statics.
 
I was 5 minutes ago though :D
 
@dragon112 Oh, I was guessing from the caps on "Lol"
 
Nah, I caps quite consistently ;P
 
11:12 AM
Currently to access a db I do this:

$this->c = new Controller();
$this->c->db->mymethod(); ...
 
@JunatanmDegraded read this: stackoverflow.com/a/11369679/727208
also, your objects are leaking encapsulation
 
Well; I must go shower, and prepare for yet another wonderful day at my place of employment.
 
I've been working for over 4 hours now..
Hope to go home early as it's going to be REALLY hot
 
... random highlights .. oh the joy
 
@JunatanmDegraded learn about dependency injection
 
11:15 AM
@tereško Hello
 
if i ignore it, will it go away ?
 
user image
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No! My encapsulation!
 
@tereško Hello
 
@tereško Hello
 
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Q: mathematical calculation using jquery

Ashisthis question is not similar to Mathematical calculations using jQuery/Ajax so please downvoters. i use two sets of radio buttons This fiddle i found shows the exact what i want http://jsfiddle.net/8FXFE/6/ can i add another hidden sort of value to those buttons that i can use in any calcula...

 
11:20 AM
lol
 
Got XAMP installed
 
.. i hope you weren't expecting ovations
 
I don't like xampp
:P
but I hve to install it
 
Your capslock is on. — piokuc 5 mins ago
 
Ah ruby gems, where 10% of the time is spent installing the thing you want, and the other 90% of the time is spent updating documentation
 
Heh, "case", I see what you did there
 
DaveRandom moved to bin
 
11:49 AM
:-(
 
@ircmaxell Whenever I see a Ruby Gem updating, it's always the rdoc
 
yup
 
Strange, isn't it..
 
sometimes I can not resist:
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A: Sliding divs on hover

hakre Is this a simple matter? Simple is very much subjective. I personally would say yes, this is a simple matter. However (no offence please) as you ask the question, I'd say it is not a simple matter for you. So I hope this answers your question. Commentary: Please try to understand that...

does it mean I'm trolling?
@Bracketworks doesn't it mean, the design is perfect, only the documentation was missing so far?
 
11:58 AM
hello all do any body of you have ever used boonex dolphin boonex.com/dolphin. It is a social networking cms
 

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