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@gunr2171 Programmers? On Stack Overflow? What a strange concept
 
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@gunr2171 I've got a client-side rendered version up and running on my local dev server (Apache). I'll fork the content repo and test publishing it to github pages. Since it is all rendered client side, it would no longer need the second repo at all. I've put support in for multi-level menus. The data for them is in the content repo, but they are not currently getting rendered on the existing site.
The thing that most needs testing is the front-controller mechanism. It looks like github pages support a _redirects file where you can specify that a default HTML file gets served for all requests. It isn't quite as expressive as .htaccess on Apache like I'm used to, but it should get the job done.
 
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Is there a good close reason for this? stackoverflow.com/questions/78945001/…
@NathanOliver not about programming. It might lead to programming, it has C++ tag, but there is no code.
They are asking for an algorithm.
@AdrianHHH good one. For some reason I keep forgetting about that option.
15:34
@NathanOliver Fun fact: if you enclose the name in square brackets, it will often create a clickable link for you. So [math.se] renders as Mathematics in chat and comments
@Machavity Neat
hmm, I just got an email from Github that my access to the smoke detector repository has been removed for account violations.
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 15 mins ago, by Spevacus
SmokeDetector's GitHub repository has been disabled. It is unclear why beyond "for a ToS violation". Forks were also affected. An appeal has been filed.
@Machavity Cool. I'll wait for that to go through before doing anything on my end
16:35
Sanity-check please: Is this just a really long Link-only answer? stackoverflow.com/a/63462554.
@GeneralGrievance pretty much, almost spam but the user discloses affiliation
Not sure if a NAA review will work. Almost qualifies for delete voting now.
Ah, darn. I flagged it just now.
no worries. I just worry robo reviewers will pass it since it looks like an answer
I'll leave a comment, I guess. I look at those when reviewing.
good idea
16:51
@StephenOstermiller awesome. For the record, the second repo (socvr-website-content) is now archived and the markdown files have been moved into the new central repo (called "socvr.org"). I only linked the old repo as reference.
@NathanOliver Contains swear words and spam URLs
@gunr2171 ah, I hadn't noticed that. I'll work out of the new one.
Later tonight I'll make some more issues on the new repo better detailing what changes should be made (one issue for making a readme, another for improving the CI pipeline, etc)
oh, and @tripleee, sorry I couldn't complete your PR. I realized that you can't comment/close PRs after you archive a repo. I have incorporated your changes into the new repo, so images are self-hosted. Thank you for the help, and for kicking off this (much needed) project.
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my pleasure, and thanks for taking it on
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SmokeDetector is having issues with its repo at this time. If you got an email about the Charcoal GitHub repo being disabled, that's why. Please discuss only in Charcoal. Thanks.
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@GeneralGrievance I posted a del-pls. Why leave it to review?!
Had +2 at the time.
Probably the most lengthy non-code NAA I've seen.
Just bouncing off an idea, regarding this meta post: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/431478 ... What do you think about a feature-request to take away the awarded reputation to answers on questions that get closed within the first day or two, and are downvoted (let's say -3)? Do you think that would help to discourage answering dupes and encourage posting to the dupe-targets if one has a different solution?
maybe I should ask this in meta room? :/ OK, I am gonna cross-post. That is not frowned upon in chat :)
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@M--SavetheDataDump I dislike tying reputation to moderation activity. I would rather they not do that and instead come up with a system where moderation is not so tightly coupled to reputation so newer less rep users can start helping out.
@NathanOliver so you are saying if we had more users with moderation privileges we can overcome issues, such as users answering dupes?
I am not saying it won't, just trying to clarify
I wouldn't say no to that either. I really don't have any realistic means to get to 10k any time soon, much less 20k.
Everything I work with has well-established and good questions and answers already.
@M--SavetheDataDump that is my hope. If we get more people closing (dupe closing especially) then hopefully the users that do just go for the easy rep will eventual stop when they keep getting closed and no one votes or worse people down vote because they feel the answerer should have known better.
@GeneralGrievance learn new things, JK
(Moe Szyslak voice) But I don't want to.
19:25
but I see your point, if we had loosened some of the requirements for privileges, or at least tied them to something else than reputation (helpful flags, edits, etc.), it would help
yeah. I will even admit that I have answered a few Q's I new were dupes because I couldn't find the target and it was easier just to write up an answer then keep slogging, especially since there is no benefit to me to do so. If we had more moderators I would think it would help fix that problem since we could eventually start working on older posts and not just the new content.
If we can de-crapify SO then I think everyone benefits.
I have done that too. And there are posts that I answered which were closed as a dupe but I don't agree that they are dupes. However, I didn't care enough to start a VTC/VTR war. I see your point about the added friction.
I'm not proud of all the Google Sheets questions I've answered, either. Some of them are good answers, sure, but some (many?) are forgettable.
Frankly, it got tiring having to ask for example data and external links.
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One thing that helps for me at least is C++ gets a decent update every 3 years so there is new features and techniques to work through with each release.
Yeah, and I guess you can stay up-to-date more than I can. I work in C#/TS mostly, which get nice updates, but by the time I see them, it's a couple years old.
@M--SavetheDataDump are you suggesting only for duplicate closures? or all types? Also, is there a cutoff? In other words, what happens if a question is answered and then closed and downvoted to -3 within the first day or two, but not deleted (because it has upvoted answers), and then a week or a month or even a year later, is reopened or rises above the -3 score to -1 or 0 or even, say, 5?
@GeneralGrievance A couple years? Heck, I still work with ASP.NET web forms that target .NET 4.5.0 in some cases...
@TylerH Ouch... I fortunately work in a small enough group to where I get the freedom to bring stuff to at least 4.7.
But I don't see us going to Core any time soon.
@GeneralGrievance Is that your core issue? sorry, I'll let myself out ;)
Not so fast. You must be subjected to core-poral punishment.
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:)
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@GeneralGrievance I do have freedom to bring it up to whatever version, but it's not a priority given the environment they run in
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@NathanOliver I definitely answered at least a few duplicates circa 2014/2015, since I was new to answering/using the site then.
looks more copied than chat-gpt to me
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@CPlus For me, it's hard to tell
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@wim I've binned this as our rules don't allow posting cv-pls requests for posts you've already closed (reference: socvr.org/faq.html#GEfM-involved-successful-vote)
If you feel strongly about it, the next best thing is to post on Meta asking for the community to intervene
(and, given there appears to be some confusion and two gold badgers have closed the question already only for it to be reopened both times, asking on Meta may be the best option anyway).
We're now in the season of tasty typos here on SOCVR: bring on the "cv-pumpkin-spice-latte" requests... (aka cv-psl)
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@TylerH only for dupes, and the cut-off could be a month. But, as I said in the Meta Room, I won't be pursuing this further. That was just an idea (and not a practical one after the discussions).
@NathanOliver Codidact is kind of like that. On Codidact I believe you earn full edit privileges by having enough suggested edits approved, rather than reaching a certain reputation threshold.
@CPlus Nice. Something like that on SO would help me thinks

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