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05:41
I think I just found the opposite of "thanks in advance":
> Thanks me later !
06:10
@VLAZ Oh, if I only had a diamond so I can edit a chat message from years back to thank you ...
@Cow might be undisclosed affiliation, yes. They do not seem to be advertising though, as they only answer questions related to . To me, this looks to be product support within the bounds of SO. They might want to disclose affiliation on their profile, but having a tag-line salutation such as "COO of Zegocloud" isn't the way to go either
Cow
Cow
06:25
yeah that's why I asked I'm not really sure as you wrote they did provide context to the right questions
oh well
@rene Sure, can the RO team consider granting me SmokeDetector priviledges in this room? I can also provide stats on my SO (post) flags if that would be helpful. Thank you!
Cow
Cow
cocomac is a veteran of Charcoal
@Adriaan I think the link went wrong here: stackoverflow.com/questions/78661915/…
@tripleee good morning
it is! A very warm one
Cow
Cow
yeah we were in the high 80's yesterday, but this morning back to 70s
@Cow tanks later! I fixed it
@Cow 80 ... bar? Meadows? Cows?
Cow
Cow
06:36
rofl
no no the US thing
F
Using bogus units is even worse than using no units :(
Cow
Cow
so we had 32 C yesterday but it's only 22 this morning and it doesn't look like it's gonna go higher
ROFL
80 slongs
:D
my cow bacon got wrecked yesterday, I don't like it that hot
@Machavity (... though strictly speaking it's still June in most parts of the world)
the US were actually slated to move to Celsius in the late 1970s but then Reagan took over and rolled back to strictly Mickey Mouse units and no civilization here, please, thankyouverymuch
Cow
Cow
/o\
06:55
merged already but I can fix it up
@tripleee Eh, not a big deal if it’s hard. I can send a PR in a bit.
thanks
07:12
!!/amiPrivileged
@cocomac ╳ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
does the instance need to restart first?
Maybe?
!!/rev
07:55
When did they change the duplicate automated close reason? - "This question is similar to: [question link]. If you believe it’s different, please edit the question, make it clear how it’s different and/or how the answers on that question are not helpful for your problem."
08:42
Why didn't that question get auto protected when we found & flag-deleted a spam answer? Does it also look at the number of views or something?
09:29
ooh, new shiny duplicate nomination auto-comment
This question is similar to: Inner join on two text files. If you believe it’s different, please edit the question, make it clear how it’s different and/or how the answers on that question are not helpful for your problem. — tripleee 47 secs ago
generated by the system when I voted to close as duplicate
09:59
@tripleee and complaints pouring in: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/401000/…
Is the comment posted at the moment you cast a close vote or is it when then final vote is cast or dupe hammered?
10:35
Is What's the best way to refactor a method that has too many (6+) parameters? a good question? My main problem is that it seems that each programming language has its own ways to deal with it, as evidenced by the many languages suggested in the answers. The question itself, as most of its answers, are good, just ... off? unrelated? uncoherent?
@Adriaan Yeah not a great question. Each language will be quite different indeed. The top-voted answer is kinda sorta language-agnostic since "design patterns" often are.
The post is a trash magnet for sure though
Could close down the show as opinion-based I suppose. I mean "best approach" in this case does very much depend on if readability or performance is "best".
I don't really see any merit for historical lock or the like, so I'm gonna stick my neck out and close vote it.
11:05
I left a little note regarding why the post was closed in case someone didn't like that. It did sit at 100+ votes after all.
11:41
@Lundin a focused question on a specific language for that type of question might today fly on CodeReview.se.
@Lundin first one to close vote as duplicate
12:32
@tripleee In the US, the colloquial phrase is "Christmas in July", because July is roughly 6 months away from Christmas.
@Machavity your calendar is weird. 6 months away would be 25 June, which is in ... June. Last time I checked.
@Adriaan July 1 is a mere 6 days off from that. It's one of those "close enough" things
13:19
@tripleee In every part of the world, I think...
@Machavity Engineer is dubious credit to his team :-P
13:58
The "Does this answer your question?" auto-comment text has been revised to be much more explanatory.
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@TylerH It might be July in North Korea. I'm sure it's whatever time, date, and season Kim Jong Un says.
@SmokeDetector /cc @Makyen can you check everything went OK after the PR for the privileges was merged? Is a reboot needed?
@VLAZ fair point
@Spevacus At this rate they're gonna run out of things to actually give us in July
Now if only they'd just bring the classic text editor to Staging Ground...
I don't really have many issues with it nowadays. I don't really use the fancy keyboard shortcuts though.
@VLAZ It is Thermidor in French republican calendar
or Messidor, confusing haha
14:46
@Spevacus well, there's the whole 'can't do stack snippets' bug with it...
Oh... right. :/
14:57
@cocomac ✓ You are a privileged user.
Well that was delayed.
@rene A reboot may have been needed, but that should have been automatic, if needed. It's also possible the changes hadn't been pulled into SD at the time the !!/amiPrivileged was run. It's working now.
sorry for dropping the ball on that, I had some urgent barbecuing to attend to
16:02
@SmokeDetector this last spam post is from an unregistered user, is it really that easy to post spam on SO?
Zoe
Zoe
16:13
@Cristik Yes. there's a lot of spam from unregistered users
fml, you cannot move files in Azure Devops Portal
who designs this shit
:57468840 Yes. But it's also usually caught by SD.
@Zoe oh, sorry, just grabbed the message you replied to :-( cc @VLAZ
1 message moved from SOCVR Request Graveyard
Zoe
Zoe
@TylerH Smh my head :p
@TylerH Microsoft.
(/deadpan joke)
16:15
exactly
I once again encountered a bug with source control bindings for a project and so I'm manually uploading all the files to Azure Devops via the portal. Which, of course you can't upload folders to, so I have to manually create the folders
well, joke's on me, I missed one folder and just wasted 20 minutes because all the files/folders I've been working on that should've been within that folder are now in the wrong place
Just today I was discussing with a colleague how Microsoft have a penchant to try and recreate existing software but slightly worse. DevOps is Jira-but-worse. Teams is Slack-but-worse.
I dunno, I think Teams is much better than Slack. Maybe specific chat features in Slack are better/more robust than in Teams, but Teams does like 50x the things Slack does
eh
i think it's less recreate in some cases, and more buying existing software and making it worse
Plus free version of Teams doesn't hide/delete all your messages that are older than 3 months like Slack does
doing a million things noone needs isnt' exactly great
16:18
Well, someone needed them, otherwise they wouldn't have added it in, but yeah most stuff is not needed by me, for example
(and, to be clear, I could easily spend several days talking about all the things I hate about Teams)
Teams always feels more hectic and less easy to actually work with. You switch between different "views" (the thing on the side with teams/chats)/activity) but also with chats you have to switch between contacts and actual chats to see different things. So, it's hard to track all the things - you're looking at the chats and somebody writs in a team. And you can't see it.
i have to switch between multiple orgs
Also, Teams loves to notify me for missed messages. That I already replied to. Yesterday.
gets even worse at home when i have to switch between personal/work and multiple orgs
@VLAZ yeah, that's pretty frustrating. Another big one that my org told Microsoft about back in like 2017 when we visited their Atlanta campus was the fact you can't open the calendar view in another window.
16:20
meanwhile... disconnected solutions just work and don't care
When I used Slack before MS Teams, I never had such problems. It was easy to see all chats and people.
@TylerH Yes. Overall, everything in Teams works. The problem is how it's all put together. There are annoying things - each is relatively minor but you just keep bumping into them with almost anything you can do. It's like continually being pocked with a toothpick. Yes, it won't kill you, won't even hurt you in the long run. But it's annoying.
like why, when i click chat in the outlook main web client,d oes it try to open chat inline
in unrelated news, holy schneikies, Uber and Lyft just secured $32/hour minimum wage somehow in Massachusetts
just take me there
Why, when i open an excel attachment does it try to render the sheet inline, just take me to it or download it
it's an email client
@KevinB omg I hate that
16:24
stop trying to make it everything else
Also the attempt to force you to upload everything to onedrive instead of just attaching a file
teh search... it's bad
16:48
@VLAZ in a diabolic twist, they also make versions of their own software which is successively worse. I would not have imagined I would say this, but Teams a year ago was almost palatable compared to what crap they managed to turn it into
@tripleee New Teams is looming over me ready to drop like the sword of Damocles. I switched to it for a but but I found almost no improvement and a huge setback with the missing Contacts feature. It's quite important to me to be able to see all people I work with. Turns out MS released the Peoples App (like a plugin for Teams) which is worse in every way.
At least it does show your contacts and the groups you've put them in. But you can't see who is online or not at a glance. And interacting with any user takes a couple more clicks than before. Which, again, isn't a huge thing by itself but it's more poking with toothpicks. I was notified that New Teams is coming soon-ish, whether I like it or not. I don't know if they fixed the Contacts thing but I've been seeing people complain about New Teams a lot.
 
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18:28
@VLAZ omg, I did not realize that (I just got forced to New Teams today)
noooooo
 
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Cow
Cow
19:38
^^ very offensive, please flag!
21:23
is this still accurate? I forgot what the UI looks like
(needs a 3k+ non-moderator to answer ^)
dbc
dbc
@blackgreen Just checked. It's a little different. And of course the reasons have changed. See i.sstatic.net/XITmML5c.png
thanks, almost accurate; animuson's post could use an update
dbc
dbc
22:07
@blackgreen Done
@mickmackusa Should that whole question be deleted as a typo, or is there some conceivable value if it's edited to have a better title?
it seems like they essentially just forgot the +, or perhaps (if not a simple typo) thought that character classes were automatically repeating

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