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dbc
00:16
Does this answer look like nonsense, AI output, or an answer? Flyway manual script generation
 
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03:06
@dbc it looks VLQ, although there may have been some sense behind it. It's a little hard to imagine AI producing that.
actually, I can imagine the author stitching that together from multiple chatgpt copy-and-pastes while having relatively little understanding of formatting
but it's primarily seemingly talking about using the IntellijIDEA IDE with SQL, which is clearly unrelated to the question.
anyway, the Q is clearly too broad if it's even topical: it's contemplating a novel use for a technology, in a very abstract way.
 
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05:01
@VLAZ the watch mechanism in SmokeDetector is cross-site, but if you have a high-precision rule that should only be implemented on a small number of sites, it might be worth the effort to code it in findspam.py which offers existing facilities for this
 
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06:40
hm, is that actually spam? They posted an answer with the same links
@Adriaan "Is there a library for it?" looks like seeking recommendations
@Nick yes, but that's a simple thing to edit out of the post without changing the intent. (It would invalidate the existing answer but, as I commented there, that's a link-only tool recommendation lacking user guidance in any case)
@Adriaan true. But given the sole answer (other than the spam one) in 2 years I think just closing and deleting it is the way to go, and the exact reason perhaps isn't that important.
07:31
@Adriaan the tagging failure people manage to do... Using 2 tags only, both of which start with a nice and fat "DO NOT USE"
07:43
@HovercraftFullOfEels This has a reopen vote (not from me), please see the comments from 5 hours ago (about 4am UK) on the question.
 
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09:03
@Adriaan But think of the seconds they save by not reading the description.
If you post 1000 questions and add 5 tags, then don't read the description of each, that's about 1 second per tag. That saves you 5000 seconds. It's about 83 minutes. You can use that time to learn to paint dogs, or assemble a robot or something.
 
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12:04
Custom mod flags do not clear when the OP self-deletes an answer, right?
Morning
@Adriaan correct
@NathanOliver thanks. In that case have my flags been handled
that is not something I can know. You should be able to check in your flag history
@NathanOliver it says "helpful" on an AIGC flag of mine, but the OP self-deleted the answer. Hence I wondered. But it has been seen and handled by a mod in that case
@Adriaan AFAIK only a mod can make a mod flag helpful. they don't auto clear as that could be abused.
12:15
@NathanOliver VLQ (for sure) and perhaps NAA do clear upon self-deletion though. One of the main reasons to not use VLQ flags
yeah, but not mod flags
@Adriaan I can't say I cleared any of your flags, but in cases where AIGC posts have already been deleted I tend to just mark them helpful and move on. Nothing can clear mod flags except a mod
13:14
@tripleee I've encountered Fadi before this or last week, can't remember why or where anymore though
several of their earlier posts were reported by Smoke Detector
13:43
@AdrianHHH thank you
@jmoerdyk Thank you
14:03
@GeneralGrievance they're doing it to all their own posts too. I'm sure several flags have already been raised; I raised a mod flag as well
But why?!? What have all those posts done after thirteen years? They've been sitting and being pretty for all that time without any issue
OP clearly has a new issue with themselves
There is some noise on twitter about deleting / self-vandalising because of the OpenAI collaboration
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@snakecharmerb oh, exciting! /s
Bah. IT set up my laptop anew and didn't tell me to save browser settings ... So I've lost all me bookmarks, all me saved logins and all canned comments+userscripts. Going to be a fun afternoon
14:10
@snakecharmerb time to implement wikipedia-style protection locks?
@Adriaan If you're using Firefox or Chrome, you can create an account to sync your settings. It will save the addons and bookmarks at least, but not settings for the addons. So, userscripts/userstyles and settings for those would need to be restored separately.
@VLAZ and if you're in an enterprise setting with group policy locking down firefox accounts or something, you can do what I generally do and just copy your user profile folder from a backup from the old laptop to the new one
then use that profile in the new environment. All your settings, bookmarks, history, saved passwords, and even sessions will be carried over
^ also possible. If you have some sort of shared drive you can use on your machine, you can also set the profile to be automatically copied there. I use FreeFileSync to do something like that for a bunch of files I want access to on both my desktop and laptop. I've set up jobs to watch for changes and copy over changes to/from the network drive.
@snakecharmerb It's been Mastodon from what I've seen. This post is making for a lot of headaches
@Machavity True, I did see something on Mastodon yesterday, and it's mostly the nixcraft post I've been seeing on twitter (presumably they post to both)
14:21
> I'll delete as much as I can and then delete my profile.
@Machavity Probably all over the social networks. I doubt there is a single source.
Actual mod message reply :/
In other news... do we need a lorem ipsum tag?
Maybe just call it filler-text?
@Machavity Forsitan non opus est ut tag.
@Adriaan So... Ides of March then?
14:26
@Machavity Quick scan seems to suggest "no". I saw some questions that "involved" lorem ipsum (like how to display it) but weren't about that. The oldest question seems to be related to mock data. Some ask how to generate lorem ipsum which might be OK but...not sure if it merits an entire tag.
I actually deleted the oldest question. It was about lorem ipsum generators. Way off topic
* currently oldest
One question was "I wrote some code. Then somebody else replaced it with lorem ipsum".
The only question I can find that might possibly benefit from the tag that currently has it is stackoverflow.com/questions/17502423/…
@Machavity There are more
@snakecharmerb Oh, he's taken to directly mocking us now.
Charming
14:49
Since there's less than 50 questions, I can go ahead and just clean it up, right?
Feel free to
15:01
ah, the joy of other network sites... where you have to flag instead of CV, and mods don't understand scope of their own site and so decline your flag about an off-topic question that's also a non-reproducible typo issue, to boot šŸ™ƒ
SO mods are perfekt
On the upside, the AI ragequits have distracted us from the other mess of the day
@Machavity That's stretching the meaning of viable a bit, is not?
Viability is in the eye of the be shareholder
Besides, I figured you'd all appreciate the comedy gold in that post
> When you search ā€œC#ā€ or ā€œC++ā€ in the keyword search field, the search renders to just ā€œCā€, and jobs associated with all three languages show up in search results
Close enough, amirite?
15:17
Only a minor thing. Who would even think of searching for C# or C++. On a programming site of all places.
I'm sure J# works like a charm, though. I can't currently check because the site fails because of my adblocker.
16:00
@VLAZ that would land you a job in 2003 ...
16:14
@Machavity that has long annoyed me
@Machavity someone decided to follow the Microsoft method of testing: don't
@GeneralGrievance You need the consent of at least one trusted (20k+ reputation) user
(in this case, seems like VLAZ already tacitly gave that)
16:33
@TylerH Ah, OK. Thanks for that clarification.
Quick question: I was gonna suggest a synonym to be created, and stumbled upon a 3.5-years request on MSO, what's the correct course of action here? Should I make a new request? Or bump the old one (if so, how?)
It's about merging and : 3.5-years request
@Gugu72 Looks like Bhargav just missed making one of the synonyms. The slate tag still needs cleaning before any merge
 
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Cow
Cow
17:46
see my comment on MS for more info
I have noticed some 'backlogged' requests on deleted posts that were not graveyarded yet. Refer to chat.stackoverflow.com/search?q=-pls&room=41570 and scroll down. Should anything be done about them?
@CPlus do you have an example of one?
You may be seeing transcript results for items that have already been moved to the graveyard
you can confirm the actual location of the message by clicking the direct link icon for a given chat message to see where it takes you: the graveyard or here
@Machavity Yeah, my request was more about the slatejs synonym than the rest, I haven't checked how much cleaning is needed in the slate tag
@Gugu72 I linked the questions that appear to need retagging. If you want to clean that up and create a more proper tag for python, let me know and I can synonym the main tag
@Machavity I'll do that right now, and follow what had been discussed in the post I linked (ie. create a tag). I'll let you know once done so that you can synonym the tag.
18:54
@TylerH Odd, many of them are showing in the search of this room, but when I click on them they appear to already be in the graveyard. Why?
probably caching
20:40
@Machavity It appears a lot more questions needed retagging, which lead to the creation of . The remaining questions with the tag are either: Questions that should be tagged ...
...Closed questions that shouldn't have this tag ; Questions for which I cv-pls or del-pls just above and that shouldn't have this tag : This specific question which is about another type of Slate, because I'm not sure how should that one be handled
21:40
@Gugu72 Looks like it's a subset of Unreal Engine. Doesn't need its own tag

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