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@CPlus that looks to be Not About Programming
00:32
@CPlus this, also, sounds like not about programming
it is not even a question...
True
 
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01:38
Who is this new, memorable @CPlus user! Welcome to SOCVR. /s
@mickmackusa have you looked at the election recently?
perhaps not so new...
/s
First sentence of my about text describes why I picked this name.
01:44
in 2024 Stack Overflow Moderator Election Chat, 2 days ago, by mickmackusa
I don't think anyone is calling for a Twitter verified handle. Call yourself "Batman" if you wish. I think perhaps users like the idea of having a memorable/descriptive username versus a randomly generated handle. Nobody needs to use their real name unless they want to.
My dry humour isn't always easy to distinguish in plain text. @Nick
02:14
terrible audit there
 
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03:18
@GeneralGrievance IIRC, an accepted self-answer isn't pinned.
03:46
pic of the day. I wish it was facing the correct way though.
We should have a guessing game as to the question that came from. Was it on stackoverflow?
 
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07:09
@CPlus The question was almost asking for it. Although an other reason could fit too. Cved
Can an SME go through Difference between npx and npm?? The question itself seems simple enough to not warrant 36 answers; there's a lot of dupes in there.
@Adriaan as far as I can see, the highest scoring 2, perhaps 3, answers are relevant, the rest is either duplicated content or nothing more than a (sourced) quote such as the 4th highest answer.
 
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jps
jps
09:38
Does spam flagging on posts in the Discussion space work in the same way as on questions/answers (automatic deletion after 4 flags)? I ask because currently, the space receives a lot of spam, and some spam posts stay there for more than an hour.
Cow
Cow
yes (to the same flagging system as for questions/answers)
Is this by now spam? This user has been posting links to their own site for months now. Usually on OK-ish answers (i.e. not link-only), but mainly unattributed and especially: in almost every post of theirs. Should we report it to smokey, or leave it to a custom mod flag?
Cow
Cow
@Adriaan yes, but does the user have more than one post?
@Cow yes, see their profile.
Cow
Cow
@Adriaan Then I would make a search term finding the posts and make a mod flag for one of them
I've done this and had it marked successfully several times now
jps
jps
09:45
@Cow thanks, but then not enough people are flagging. Right now there are 8 posts that have been posted today, 7 of them flagged as spam by me.
Cow
Cow
@jps then post them in Charcoal HQ and let us help you
 
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11:47
@StephenOstermiller seems like not about programming to me
Cow
Cow
12:02
^ I agree this is a spam seed
there was one similar earlier this morning
12:34
@gre_gor seems kinda odd to close a question as a dup of one already closed as POB...
cc @triplee
thanks, I changed to another common dupe for the same problem
conveniently somebody had proposed it already a long time ago
@desertnaut Yes, sorry
@rene, could you please remove this erroned cv-pls? chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/57160178#57160178
thank you!
13:41
@Community You're drunk, go home. — howlger 1 min ago
:D
@Cow Small clarification. Flagging discussions does not go to the same system as for flagging questions and answers. There is a separate flagging system for discussion moderators. Regular moderators have access to the queue, but it is in a totally different location.
That said, 4 spam flags will automatically delete a discussion.
14:09
@Vega all good (and the job was done ;)
Cow
Cow
15:19
@IanCampbell roger that
15:35
@desertnaut Thank you :)
@IanCampbell Small clarification to the small clarification: moderators don't see Discussion flags in the broader flag list. We have to navigate to the Discussion page to see flags.
15:49
I think I like Windows 11 finally supporting tabbed documents in Notepad, but boy is it weird to get used to
This just in: Microsoft adds functionality available in third party software for years
Like MS Teams? :)
Some 20 years before the pandemic, gamers all around the world used stuff like Ventrilo and Teamspeak to talk online. Then during the pandemic this was "invented" again. Only the new audience doesn't have the same courtesy as teenage game kids. Specifically the concept of "open mic" has not reached the MS Teams masses yet. Nor the concept of push-to-talk.
Cow
Cow
sigh
@Lundin Eh, I disagree. Kids have always had poor mic etiquette when gaming, in general. Likewise, adults have always had poor phone etiquette in business meeting settings. It's not new or a Teams issue
Cow
Cow
@TylerH hah I was writing that wtf
15:59
As a kid I remember tons of times where players would yell mean or profane things, constantly make annoying sounds for lulz, just not be aware that their drink slurping and lip smacking while eating was loudly audible, etc.
@TylerH At least kids know the meaning of push-to-talk. Microsoft devs do not :) People actually sit and flip the mic on/off button on their headset...
Cow
Cow
indeed
and people never put themselves on mute long before Teams was around. When it was Lync, or in Zoom calls or Google hangouts, etc.
I worked in a call center where the techs would also play Quake while on calls. We had a few masters of the mute button.
@Lundin not everyone has a keyboard in front of them to hold down a button whenever they wanna talk. Some users are mobile, others are in group/conference settings, some may be typing while they need to talk, etc.
16:00
which was fun when they missed the mute button
PTT as a feature is great, and I love it in Discord, but I don't think it would get much use in Teams
What I do think Teams needs is to force-set all users to muted whenever there are 3 or more users joining a meeting, not just like 10 or whatever the setting is, and to auto-mute users when there is no audio detected for more than 5 seconds
@TylerH Can you not implement buttons in a smart phone app? Because I swear it's possible to text using them phone things :)
@Lundin sure, you want someone to have to hold down an on-screen keyboard button on a phone the entire time they're talking?
mute/unmute works fine
why bother with ptt
ptt has a specific place where it is useful, while you're busy doing somethng else such as gaming. While sitting in a meeting having a conversation?
nah
@TylerH Works just fine for walkie-talkies, which aren't quite as big as smart phones.
16:03
so your issue is with smartphones not having a PTT physical button
@KevinB I see you're a proponent of PTP: Push, Talk, Push :-)
some actually do
but that would be a big regression in UX for most users
as Kevin mentioned, pressing a mute/unmute button on screen once to change state is much better experience
i very much prefer ptt in gaming, mute unmute is too unreliable in that setting
Doesnt need to be physical, it could be like when you take a photo with the camera. Hold it in then release. All software & cap sense.
brb
16:56
@Machavity I saw the the documentation somewhere (the Moderator SoFT?). That's what I was trying to get across with the "totally different location". On the one hand, I'm glad your mod dashboard isn't filled with discussion stuff. On the other hand, finding those flags is not easy to do organically.
Yeah, it's a double-edged sword
 
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jps
jps
19:42
"ChatGPT, please write me an answer for a discussion about what makes programming cool" - "Certainly:" oh well, not even at discussions we're safe from crapGPT :(
Cow
Cow
@jps rofl people getting tired of writing themselves
the author of that discussions is already a nuked account
jps
jps
@Cow ChatGPT, Please write me a funny response for this chat - Certainly....
Cow
Cow
@jps HAHAHHAHHAHAHA
i particularly like the replies that shoulda been replies to relies
jps
jps
19:53
@KevinB IMHO they could nuke the whole discussion space. Today's signal to noise ratio is about 1:20, I flagged about 15 spam posts and almost as many questions or "look at my question" posts, right now there are just two "discussions" left.
Cow
Cow
I'm a witness to the discussion massacre today
I can't tell you how much I love this one, its looking for RFID solutions for an actual train? Railroad.js chefs kiss
April Fools Day is coming up. I hope the folks at OpenAI add, "respond like Beavis and Butthead" to every prompt.
Cow
Cow
hahaha
jps
jps
@code11 Hello, I'm new here and I'm desperate
19:58
A new section of the first questions queue
Cow
Cow
@jps I might've seen movies starting like that......
jps
jps
@Cow I'm a voluntary curator and I'm desperate
Cow
Cow
ROFLMAO
I need my dopamine hit from being the last red flagger. Can someone please post something rude?
jps
jps
@GeneralGrievance here you are.
Cow
Cow
20:06
haha find it yourself
36 million helpful flags.
 
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22:40
@Makyen but that's cheating! :)

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