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4:08 AM
Does anyone have a simple SEDE query lying around that will let me run a LIKE query on answer text for a specific string (on PHP questions)? Ideally, I guess I'd order by question date asc to find the earliest usage. Sorry, I'm on my phone which slows me down.
 
4:42 AM
@mickmackusa ...nevermind, I slopped something together from other queries that I found. It's not beautiful, but I got what I needed. data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/edit/1676133 (I needed a specific dupe target containing a function with ... in its parameter to close this)
 
@mickmackusa You might have better results with the standard search unless you specifically need the wildcards. Tag info is on the question so that's going to involve at least one join and SEDE is... rather slow for things like that.
 
@HenryEcker I specifically needed [word]-parenthesis-dot-dot-dot to find what I needed. (very specific) ...was a rather slow running query (because of the LIKE on the Body text I assume).
 
@mickmackusa It's a shame if not for the "..." site search might've actually be useful here. But alas... I'm glad you found what you were looking for in any case.
 
 
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6:15 AM
I added a bunch of old posts to the close vote queue if you have votes to spare
wishlist: focus-follows-gaze
 
6:42 AM
@tripleee Yes, please.
 
 
 
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8:07 AM
How certain should I be before modflagging? I saw a question which shows clear relation to a question by a different user. Should I modflag for investigation of the two accounts? Because I can't really be sure. I'm actually more inclined to believe it was two colleagues who posted the two questions which would make it slightly fishy but not really account fraud (no voting fraud has happened).
 
@VLAZ It should be enough if you investigated it as good as you can. Mods will know that you don't have the same tools at your disposal as they have. It's not totally clear to me what the problem is that you see in your example - possible evasion of a post ban?
 
@JeanneDark More generally, possible evasion of posting restrictions. But that itself is flimsy, as well. Hence the uncertainty. What I have to go off on is two questions that seem to stem from the same source.
 
8:48 AM
what to do about this? no repro? stackoverflow.com/questions/74570151/…
 
@VLAZ at least mention the two accounts. Please don't just say that this user is a bad boy. I hate flags like that
 
💎🚩🔫 - Shot a modflag. For the record, it says "Please investigate if this is an attempt to circumvent posting restrictions."
 
9:11 AM
@Dharman :thinking: What about a post where a comment links to a question from the other account? Wouldn't that be enough evidence?
 
@E_net4thecommentflagger at least mention (preferably link) the comment in your flag is my experience
 
9:31 AM
@E_net4thecommentflagger Enough to cause a raised eyebrow
 
Do you agree that this answer is NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/5881465/2943403
 
@mickmackusa no. It is an answer, albeit perhaps to a different question. NAA won't fly (to cite the declined flag text: "Do not use flags to indicate technical inaccuracies"). It isn't a very insightful answer though. If you think it should be deleted, feel free to post a del-pls here.
 
@Adriaan No, a del-pls request is not possible. See FAQ rule #11 ("...because the request can either not be actioned, or imply a request for downvotes.")
 
@JeanneDark ah, because of the upvote? Didn't see that, thanks
 
Because it has a positive score (it received 2 upvotes)
 
9:55 AM
@JeanneDark if I downvote it, it becomes zero. Zero scored answers are eligible here because they are one vote away from delible.
 
"That means del-pls requests are permitted for [...] answers which have a score less than or equal to 0."
 
(I don't remember what score it had when I first commented.) It qualifies now.
 
10:29 AM
 
11:26 AM
@Adriaan Bleh... It's yet another "I want to do a trivial transinformation of my data" question. Technically answerable. But there is already a million of these. The number might not even be figurative. What we need is a duplicate for these but good one I know of. And writing a self-Q&A canonical is a hassle.
 
@VLAZ I went "unclear" given the utter lack of anything except code. They should ask an actual question if they want help, instead of dumping their code hoping on ... well ... something.
 
 
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12:50 PM
is this question about arrays on topic? I am not sure as it questions design choices of the language, seems as it may lead to opinion based answers, but I am not sure.
 
sta
@Ruli Needs details or clarity
 
Is this spam? Manually POS machine it's about some sort of abuse, it seems.
 
@VLAZ falls loosely into the "job offer" category for me
 
Yeah. Soliciting contacts, I guess.
 
sta
@VLAZ seems like that, but no link, or no contact info.
 
12:54 PM
some spammers do make mistakes
 
sta
@SurajRao OP forget to share contact info
 
@sta I suspect it's not designed for posting on SO. Just on a bunch of places. Other sites would probably have some way to message a user directly.
 
1:13 PM
same post in fact
@Adriaan abuse? VLQ I can buy, but it does vaguely look like an attempt to answer
 
@tripleee they did that on that previous smokey as well, but then with gibberish + an unrelated image, now gibberish + a few possibly sensible words
 
oh, thanks for clarifying
 
1:42 PM
@Adriaan seems like perhaps not a programming problem, though
 
2:08 PM
I have answered this question today and a high-rep user closed it as a duplicate, linking to 5 duplicates, all of which were ANSWERED (and not closed) by that specific user. Should I do something? Or is this OK (and considered a neat way to get to such high reputation)? Sorry if this is off-topic here but I didn't feel like asking on meta.
 
@MrUpsidown that's actually quite common for gold badge holders, given you need 400+ answers with a total score of 1000+ in a tag to get the gold badge. They demonstrated knowledge in the tag by answering questions, so it's likely they remember those when closing others as a duplicate. What intrigues me more is that you answered the question, but also voted to close it.
 
Also, just because two (or more) questions are valid as duplicates of a new one, doesn't mean they are necessarily duplicates of each other.
Although, in that particular case, I'd be surprised if all five targets should be considered unique. But it's way outside my domain.
 
I initially close voted as "not reproducible / typo" because if you follow the docs, the mentioned properties simply don't exist. Then I thought, ok, I can clarify things for OP. That said, and I admit it might be a duplicate, I don't understand your statement about gold badges. What does that change except that this user CAN close these questions without other votes? Should they not ALL be closed as a duplicate of one of them?
 
Well, from my (non-expert) POV, the first and fifth targets listed look very similar and have near-identical answers.
 
@AdrianMole they are all "kind of" duplicates. They are all about using undocumented Google Maps API properties. Not necessarily exact dupes.
I just find it funny that this user has no problem answering 5 questions without marking any as a duplicate, but closes mine as a dupe of the 5 others ;)
 
2:18 PM
@MrUpsidown right, that is odd
 
But, I think we're fast drifting into "moderating a user" here. This is a better fit for a Meta.SO discussion, really.
 
@AdrianMole you are right. My goal is not to moderate this user but I was just wondering whether it was common behavior and if I should do something about it or it that's just fine.
 
In C++ (a far more gentlemanly tag), there are some very high-rep users who just won't hammer posts as dupes of Qs which they have themselves answered. But there is no actual rule to prevent that.
 
There should be one!
 
Maybe. I'd be surprised if it hasn't already been raised on Meta. Have a look; if not, then raise it as a concern.
 
2:23 PM
@MrUpsidown no, there should not. As I said: the gold badge is given to you based on your answers in that tag. That is what gives you the seniority/knowledge/reputation in order to allow single-handed closure of duplicates.
 
@MrUpsidown Related? (and the one it's been closed against).
 
@Adriaan yes, I know what the gold badge is about, I am 37 points away myself from the google-maps gold badge. I often close questions as duplicates. I would just not close one as a duplicate of 3 or 5 other questions which I have all answered without flagging any as a duplicate (if that makes sense)
 
If they are all exact duplicates of each other, yes, you should've closed them as such, rather than answer them all. However, it might occur that you need to string 2 or even 3 answers together to answer a single question. That's why a question can have more than a single duplicate target
 
@Adriaan, that's agreed. Maybe they are not all exact duplicates of each other. But what really intrigues me is the user behavior, not really whether some os these questions lived without being closed as dupes.
@AdrianMole yes, kind of related although the case is a bit different.
@AdrianMole there are some very high-rep users who just won't hammer posts as dupes of Qs which they have themselves answered - I believe you. Like I often see high rep users answer non-programming questions in some tags that I think should not even exist... a good example is
Oh and btw, I had raised this cloud-billing issue on meta but how can I say... nobody seemed to care... meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/406445/…
 
3:02 PM
This was marked as spam but doesn't look like it to me - anyone agree/disagree? stackoverflow.com/q/74522096
 
3:15 PM
@CertainPerformance I can't think of why this would be marked as spam, that said, I think it should be closed as it's not a question.
 
Yep... just someone who didn't understand the Q/A format, I thought
 
3:45 PM
@CertainPerformance Looks like it had some red flags but not enough to actually auto-delete it and apply the -100 rep penalty to the poster. (OP deleted it themselves). I believe any post that gets at least one red flag will have the "this post is locked" banner when it gets deleted.
We had a discussion about this sort of "incorrect red flags" issue, in here, a while ago (4b0, Cody and I were the main participants) and the outcome was that - mostly - nothing needs to be done about it. Unless you have some evidence that the red flag was cast maliciously (in which case raise a custom flag).
 
4:02 PM
In case someone is interested, I raised the case I was talking about earlier on meta: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/421677/…
 
4:19 PM
@MrUpsidown See also this question for guidelines. meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/367459/… Personally, I rarely hammer closed questions with a target of a question I've answered just to avoid any appearance of a conflict of interest. But there is no rule against it.
Ideally, there would be a box for us to tick that activates Mjölnir when we cast a duplicate close vote, so we could cast a "normal" vote. This has been requested before but never acted on.
 
@miken32 thanks, I'll read that one!
 
@miken32 if there is no other answer on the question, personally I see it as very natural to hammer towards something that you answered (after all you have already answerd it and consider your answer a good one...)
but I'm in low traffic tag... so I also don't have many options
 
 
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6:28 PM
Hi :)
I've submitted a very small edit two days ago on one of the clang-format posts. Is there a to speed-up a review? The changes are trivial but improve readability and its much easier to understand the post..
 
7:15 PM
@CleanCoder265 the suggestel edit queue is terminally clogged; I suppose somebody else in the room could in theory find your edit and it here, but as the primary stakeholder you are not allowed to request it yourself, as per the room rules
we all wish suggested edits for low-rep users would work better but it is what it is; I'm tempted to recommend abstaining from suggesting edits but that's probably too harsh too
 
@CleanCoder265 Also note that while the suggested edit queue is, as @tripleee said, "terminally clogged", this is a major holiday time in the US, with most people having at least yesterday and today off, so I'd expect that the number of review tasks accomplished is substantially below the "normal" level. Given that the "normal" level doesn't move things through the queue all that quickly, it would be expected to be even worse at this time.
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7:32 PM
@Makyen Did you have a say on which day elections are held since you became a moderator?
 
7:47 PM
@AnnZen I'm not sure why you are asking this question, or what you're really asking. I don't mind it, but it feels like there some context to it which I'm missing, so I'm not really sure how to respond and I'm a bit confused as to what you're wanting. I don't recall specifically stating on which day elections are held since I became a moderator, but I probably have done so. Assuming you're talking about SO/SE elections, those usually end on a Tuesday.
If you're asking specifically about when the election was which I won, I'd have to look it up to see the specific day. However, that's fairly easy to do. I became a moderator on 2020-07-21.
 
@Makyen No context. I just wanted to know if election days are chosen by the current moderators, or by the staff...
The posts about this are pretty vague, so I decided to ask a specific moderator if they had a say in the date.
 
8:11 PM
@AnnZen SE has some standards as to when elections occur. In particular, SE doesn't have elections during the last part of the year, for multiple reasons. At this point, and for quite a while in the past, the election cycle begins and ends on a Tuesday. Moderators can work with SE to select the week in which the election takes place, as long as it meets the general requirements. I suspect that for most elections it ends up being SE that proposes the week, but I don't know that for sure.
 
@Makyen I see. Thanks.
 
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