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5:03 PM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Please note that 'lacks minimal understanding' is not an acceptable close reason
thank you :-)
 
There are serious SOFTWARE BUGS with Ubuntu software, concerning nvidia / cuda support, and with general 18 -> 20 “upgrades”... but moderators close these questions without recourse. Rather silly and redundant homework questions are waved in? Apparently this site is now a homework assistance site?
 
@Stripedbass this is not ubuntu.se
 
@rene this isn’t python.org or oracle / Java either. Yet those questions are waved in, as are computer science 101 homework assignments.
 
I doubt this discussion will go anywhere constructive. Do you have a nvidia /cuda question that was incorrectly closed? Then we have an actual example to rant talk about.
Please be aware that we don't allow one boxing, so don't post plain links. Just add some explanation to it in the same chat message
 
5:19 PM
I had a production issue last night caused by an Ubuntu “update” bug. The site was flooded with homework assignment questions, and now some moderators have decided my question was off topic. I want a discussion about whether this site is for helping to solve software problems, or has it degraded to a homework assignment help page?
 
@Stripedbass Are you aware of askubuntu? Check out their help center.
 
@Stripedbass feel free to have that discussion on Meta.
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@Stripedbass Anything about an OS is very unlikely to be on topic for SO.
If it was that way... the Stack Overflow wouldn't be a site for programming questions.
 
@JeanneDark - yes, thank you for at least trying... I checked askubuntu. I searched many sites for an answer. There were LOTS of people with the same question, but no one had an answer. I thought stack overflow was a site to help with software bugs, and instead my BUG question was rudely dismissed as off topic, while homework assignment questions are waved in.
@rene - ok, so this site is now for homework assignments. Please let actual programmers know of the change you made unilaterally
 
@Stripedbass "software bugs" belong to bug trackers. Not on Stack Overflow, or Ask Ubuntu or any Stack Exchange site. If you believe you have hit a bug, report to the developers!
 
5:27 PM
The developers might also close the question if it's about SOFTWARE BUGS
 
@Stripedbass please link to your software bug question.
 
Well, that's because you need to read how to report bugs :D
 
^ @rene please trash this request. The question is clear now (although it might not be possible)
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null on request
 
Thank you :)
 
5:39 PM
@dippas I'm not sure Typo/No Repro is appropriate. I don't think that's a debugging question.
 
@Stripedbass Nobody is declaring a unilateral change. In fact, Ask Ubuntu is far more likely to have answers for you on the OS level
 
@Machavity Ask Ubuntu doesn't deal with bug reports.
 
@Braiam Ah. Didn't realize this was an actual bug
 
This is NAA, isn't it? The code is from the accepted answer I linked to in my comment.
 
@Machavity I actually don't know. But being Nvidia, closed drivers and the fact that it was an update it's very likely that Nvidia is to blame for the woes of their users :D
 
5:52 PM
@JeanneDark yep... they wanted to comment
 
@Yatin Thanks! I just thought I might have missed something since it was still there when all the other NAAs had been handled already.
 
What do you think about this question?
 
@Stripedbass Homework questions are generally welcome here, with caveats. Other question types are also welcome. Server and consumer-oriented Linux questions are generally not on topic. There has not been a step-change in what counts as on-topic, at least as far as I am aware.
 
@dippas Why is this a typo? This was likely a typo when pasting it here. They are asking a how-to question IMHO
 
5:59 PM
@Stripedbass If your view is that homework questions are drowning out other on-topic questions, then that's a valid view, though I am not sure it is specific enough for a Meta Stack Overflow question. However since a Meta question can be asked at no cost, you could give it a go if you wish.
 
I think the site has always been fighting a constant battle about people treating it as a help desk. The problem is not whether the question is a homework or not, but rather whether it is useful for other readers or not. Will people look for the same question again in the future? If so then the question is probably relevant for Stack Overflow.
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica What is condescending about it?
 
well the question is gone now ^
 
@Dharman It's implying that the OP is incompetent. The question does lack minimal understanding, but the comment is still excessively condescending in my opinion.
 
Hmm, maybe it was edited before I had a look
 
They commented that the OP should hire someone that knows what they're doing (which carries the implication that the OP doesn't). I could be wrong though.
 
6:07 PM
Ohh ok. Then I think I didn't learn that yet. I would consider this as genuinely helpful comment. Go hire someone or take some learning classes is a generally helpful comment IMHO
 
@AdrianMole You have to watch out for committees, they sometimes deliver a bum steer
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Ah, I see. I think the comment meant "hire someone to write a streaming application for you" It does imply that the OP doesn't know how to do it themselves but given the question, that's completely reasonable. I don't have a problem with the comment.
 
If they knew how to do it then they wouldn't ask such question
 
This answer is link-only right? It is written by a 10k user along with another similar link-only looking answer.
 
Yes, but the question is kind of asking for it, so I'd say that it might be best to close the whole thing.
 
6:35 PM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica How is this recommendation?
 
6:48 PM
@cigien not sure what's not 'no repro' about that -- with the code given, the div takes up the space OP says they want to take up, because that's how divs work. At any rate, it's an nth duplicate, so I'm about to reopen it just to close it properly.
(moving it to graveyard so users are not confused about the request since it was for a prior round of closure/opening)
 
@TylerH It looks like a how-to question to me. So No Repro doesn't make any sense, there's nothing to reproduce. The dupe closure is fine of course, thanks for finding the targets and closing the post correctly.
 
@Tomerikoo we can't close vote answers. Did you mean to link to a question, instead?
 
@TylerH Dang sorry. Yeah the question of that page
 
@cigien the first issue is that OP is trying to apply styles based on a class but they forgot the class character . in their CSS. So that's the typo reason
Later they did specify 'oops yeah it was a typo' but didn't make it clear whether that solved their problem or not.
Aside from all of that, the question itself is also not particularly clear
 
Bleh, just delete that question.
 
6:53 PM
@Braiam I have already bookmarked it for del-pls once it's eligible
 
@TylerH Sure, all those are valid objections. To clarify, a request was made here with the Typo reason. 2 users objected on the grounds that the reason was wrong, and voiced their opinion that the post is on-topic. The poster didn't respond, but hasn't been active in the room since the objections were raised, so I didn't ask for the request to be binned.
Once the post was closed for the typo reason, I posted a reopen-pl request solely on the grounds that the original closure was invalid. If anyone had responded, as you just did, that the question is actually a Typo, or that there are other reasons the post should be closed, I wouldn't have posted the reopen-pls request.
 
7:38 PM
Given the comments the OP put on all answers makes me think that his data doesn't match what he posted.
 
8:34 PM
Anyone have R Mjolnir? The OP links to several posts as dupes, but I could only vote for one of them.
 
if anyone wants a good laugh diy.stackexchange.com/questions/210136/… Poor OP
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@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica I think there's one user who frequents SOCVR that has one but I can't remember who
 
I see what you did there ;)
 
9:21 PM
@TylerH I created an account just to upvote that xD
 
Is installing "SQL Server Management Studio" on topic here? I imagine it's a programming tool, or am I mistaken?
 
@Scratte I think so - you wouldn't use it for anything other than programming
 
9:38 PM
Then I don't understand why this one is closed SQL Server Management Studio (SSMS) Setup Failed (0x800B010C)
 
@Scratte Yes it is a programming tool
the users who voted to close for that reason may have considered simply installing it to be not an act of sufficient programmatic relevance
 
But it's hard to use it if it doesn't install, no?
 
@Scratte yes, I would say so
 
I see a new "My java doesn't work" every week. Mostly due to errors in path :)
 
@Scratte heh
 
9:43 PM
@Scratte Typo: Please remove the word, "My," and capitalize "Java."
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LOL
 
@tink I understand the problems though. For some reason there's some obscure path pointing to a java.exe, that's useless and it's earlier in the path that the one one wants.
 
FWIW, I see numerous questions about installation failures (and related issues) with Visual Studio (one of my followed tags). Often, I can't help at all; but I never VTC because: (a) it's a valid programming tool; and (b) I have faced many such issues myself. Maybe one day I'll post an answer suggesting what has worked for me, on occasions: Try rebooting your PC!
 
Yah ... those issues are as old as Java itself. Raises questions about the installers ... should they provide options for batch jobs for different versions? Should they scan the PATH for existing versions and offer to remove those? Or should users grow some brains and resolve these things? ;)
 
@AdrianMole This is payback from using your private member variable, huh? :)
 
9:46 PM
hehe
 
LOL
 
@AdrianMole There's an Answer out there very similar with a score of almost 1000 on it. Though it has 7 words. So using only 4 would be nice :)
 
I know! I'll have to be careful to avoid plagiarism. :-)
Or 2 words: Reboot it!
 
@tink I've tried that last bit. I've showered every day to try to water it.. nothing helps. I haven't worked out what that strange java.exe is doing though. It seem to be a link to nowhere.
 
9:50 PM
LOL
 
 
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11:50 PM
Does anyone know that's missing from this html ejs Question for it be reopened?
 

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