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12:51 AM
 
 
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2:14 AM
Completely off-topic, but should I change my profile picture?
 
2:53 AM
@RyanM I don't really know. The question is now deleted, so I'm not exactly sure, but they are basically asking two things: Why isn't my code working, and how do I use .after? So the duplicate will partially answer their question.
 
3:05 AM
Usually when I want to delete multiple comments, I raise a custom mod flag on one of the comments, and they all get cleaned up. If I want to delete all the comments on a post, could I raise a custom mod flag on the post? Does it make a difference?
 
3:36 AM
@10Rep why?
 
3:52 AM
^ why do people upvote these posts?
 
4:39 AM
@Nick There seems to be a comment suggesting why.
 
6:06 AM
RO can you please trash my last cv-pls? OP added MCVE
 
7:05 AM
There certainly are a lot of POB questions in . I guess the tag is literally inviting that.
^ spam
 
8:03 AM
@TomerShetah Hi! Please read our FAQ on how to format your close requests. Note that math is not on the standard migration path, meaning that we cannot vote to migrate it, only close it as off-topic. Only diamond moderators can move questions to sites not on the standard migration path, and usually they are hesitant to do so.
Also, please be very careful when requesting/flagging posts for migration. This particular one I'd not move, because it doesn't look particularly good. This means that there is a high chance of it being closed over on math.SE, rejecting migration. Better is to just close the question as off-topic here on SO, and, if you want, leave a comment for the OP mentioning that they can repost on math.SE, provided they read their guidelines
 
Thanks @Adriaan!
 
8:22 AM
@TomerShetah again: please read the FAQ on how to format your requests. The format is [tag:cv-pls] <reason> <post-link> at minimum.
The [tag:cv-pls], which gets formatted as tag, see above in the transcript, is required because of the scripts which the Room Owners use to move messages. The reason needs to be an official close reason as present on the close vote dialogue, and the post link is self-explanatory. You did the latter two correct already, thanks
 
 
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9:50 AM
Is how to use "wget" a programming Question?
 
10:10 AM
@Scratte barely
 
Thank you :)
 
10:56 AM
Is picking "Looks OK" for a Question that plagiarizes text from wikipedia a review suspension-offence?
 
@Scratte Depends how blatant it is, I would guess. It someone has posted 50+ lines of professional-looking text, I usually google a paragraph to double check, but if it's only a couple of lines, I never would.
 
Speaking of which.. :D It's just come in as a cv-pls request ;)
 
haha
 
@Scratte Oddly the plagiarised text is also completely unnecessary to the question
 
also @Scratte for some reason Queen bot picked up your comment... that is how i ended up there
 
11:00 AM
@DavidBuck That's why I went to search for it. It sounded like wikipedia.. the dates was a major hint.
@Yatin Ohh.. was it unkind?
 
@Scratte I don't think so... it has a score of 6/10 possibly because of the word "plagiarized"
 
Yes, I went to investigate what in my comment made Queen react to it.
I'll leave the Triage review to someone else for assessment..
 
11:16 AM
Any SEDE guru here that knows how to format results to be links to posts? Like, I can easily extract a post ID, but I would like a clickable URL instead. I've seen somebody do it here I just don't remember who :\
 
@MarcoBonelli I usually find some query that already does it and copy it :D Id as [Post Link]
There's "Magic Columns" in SEDE help
 
@Scratte oh nice, thank you very much
 
@MarcoBonelli you can also create your own link concat('site://posts/', posts.id,'/timeline','|', posts.title) which is handy if you want to link to a timeline
 
@rene I tried that (copying from you :P) but all I got was a string "https://..." :\
Like in this query of yours, If I try doing the same concat('https://', hostname, '/q/', postid, '|', title ) [Post] all I get is text.
 
11:32 AM
@rene FYI there's a request from a few hours ago for an RO to remove this cv-pls immediately beneath it.
 
@MarcoBonelli do you have a link to your actual query?
@DavidBuck thanks
 
@rene I solved it eventually using the magic SELECT Id as [Post Link], but here it is.
 
@MarcoBonelli ah, yeah, answers don't have titles and you need to have at least one char after the |
 
@rene ohh, okay, that makes sense now. Thank you.
 
12:03 PM
Why?!? do reviewers not look at the comments :(
 
Gah! I can get so frustrated when answers that are completely wrong gets upvoted. Like this for instance. What they're saying is true for C++ but 100% false for C. stackoverflow.com/a/64289320/6699433
 
what's C? :P
 
@JohnDvorak Lol, what? :D
 
Isn't that just an older version of C++? :P
 
It's also older than d :)
 
12:14 PM
@JohnDvorak Not sure if you're just pulling my leg or not, but no it's not.
 
I mean, it's easy for people to think they're more compatible than they are
 
Makes me wonder why people still enjoy writing in C, though.
 
If there had been no c, there would have been no c++, so they're related and c was born first, no? :)
 
@Scratte They are related but separate. C++ was compatible with ANSI C if I remember correctly, but after that they have branched of to separate paths and modern C code is generally not compatible
@E_net4isinariggedplatform I can only answer for myself, but I think it's fun. It feels like craftmanship instead of an assembly line.
 
@klutt Like crafting watches out of firearm parts. ;)
In this case, I find it baffling how the compiler just lets me assign a const pointer to a non-const pointer.
 
12:18 PM
@E_net4isinariggedplatform Hahaha
 
Is it for the sake of backwards compatibility?
 
I even recently saw a video of Brian Kernighan talking about languages, and I had to laugh on the mention of c++ and the way the opinion/fact was stated. Computer Science - Brian Kernighan on successful language design if you're interested :)
 
I would rather say that it's like crafting watches without any modern tools
@E_net4isinariggedplatform I'm not sure if that's the reason in this case, but it could be.
 
Watches that sometimes explode into a shower of parts when you twist the clock adjust knob too far.
 
However, I do know that it's because of backwards compability that string literals are not allowed to be changed even though they have non-const type.
So yes, C is burdened with a lot of legacy
Like the auto keyword, which means something completely different in C than C++
It basically means "non-static" :D
 
12:28 PM
Aye, automatic storage duration. The best storage duration.
 
And then we of course have the fun thing with the fact that x[5] is equivalent to 5[x] :D
 
12:45 PM
That last SD report is NAA
 
1:31 PM
comes back 6 years later to vandalize their question (closed as duplicate)
 
A for committment
 
 
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2:58 PM
I have created a sed script to translate Swedish to Danish:

sed 's/[bcdfghjklmnpqrstvwxz]//gi'
 
Do you need a Danish person to explain how code formatting in chat works? :D
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Hahaha, yeah, I felt that was a pretty big fail on my part
 
 
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@desertnaut, I didn't tag the cv-pls so I wasn't sure I am aligned with the format I should. Sorry for the noise.
 
4:44 PM
@TomerShetah no problem
 
5:03 PM
Is R/A going to work on the last SD report? There is a semblance of an answer surrounded by childish profanity
 
You might edit that out and then have some kind of answer
 
@JeanneDark I could, but it hardly seems worth the effort, though.
 
@DavidBuck my guess is it will be hardly educational for the respondent, who has posted no less than four (4) "answers" here: stackoverflow.com/questions/64294539/…
 
I could imagine an R/A flag being declined.
 
@JeanneDark the suggested edit looks good...
and resolves the problem for now, I think.
 
5:18 PM
It appears to have just been nuked. Seems like the best outcome.
 
@DanielWiddis Nice puzzle on close up :) At a distance looking a little like a mimiature Dharman :)
 
5:41 PM
If I add the details into the question should we reopen this question? stackoverflow.com/q/38553573/1839439
 
@Scratte Dharman could be a pixellated version of mine. :)
 
I am so sick of reviewing PHP answers.
They are so bad there should be a nuke button
This is so useful: imgur.com/a/qBeaK49
I am looking for a good duplicate questions and the accepted answer is "There is a semicolon missing at line number 16 of your code." Grrrrr....
 
That's it! I am writing a new answer.
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@Dharman so frustrating lol
 
No lessons learned there, then.
 
Feature Request (New Close Vote reason): "I'm voting to close this question because it's about PHP."
@Dharman Get yourself some Unicorn Points ... at 20K, you'll have one third of a Nuke Button.
 
@AdrianMole It doesn't works for upvoted ones
 
6:15 PM
... well, unless they get into the LQP queue! (For upvoted answers, "Delete" turns into "Recommend Deletion".)
 
Write more Answers and get your 40/40. That'll work for "delete everything" :)
 
@Scratte But I'll have to give away 50 UP to get my last badge.
 
Seems Dharman doesn't have that problem ;)
 
There were a few days, a while ago, when I did actually go looking for a question on which to offer a bounty ... but my search was in vain.
 
@AdrianMole I don't have a problem finding very useful Answers. I know of a few users that write awesome Answers, but I can't really go and serial vote on them.
But I'll find one if you really need one :)
 
6:39 PM
Done, I have written a new answer. It should get downvoted in no time.
 
I don't understand how you can write Answers so fast.
 
1. Grab keyboard 2. Open IDE 3. Start typing. 4. Copy-paste into Stack Overflow
The last step (Copy-paste into Stack Overflow) is the opposite of how most users actually use Stack Overflow.
 
I thought having aged away flags was bad.. but I seem to have 3 times as many disputed ones. Triage working it's "magic".
 
6:57 PM
@Dharman I have edited this question. Is it clearer? stackoverflow.com/posts/38553573/revisions
 
@Dharman I did a wee bit of polishing - hope you don't mind.
 
@AdrianMole No, fun fact: there is no standardized capitalization for mysqli extension.
 
... I just checked the 'official' website. And the system I used just looks more geekish.
 
Then grep the overview page for mysqli php.net/manual/en/mysqli.overview.php
This is the best sentence "For further information on the mysqli extension, see MySQLi."
 
In my experience, posts get more upvotes if they look good.
 
7:03 PM
Ahh.. so, now @AdrianMole has started the journey of becoming the next php gold badger :D
 
@Scratte If only editors share in any rep. the post gets after the edit! :-)
... people will see that and think, "That's Dharman-the-Downvoter, so I'm not going to upvote! ... But, hang on: Adrian Mole has 'touched' it, so maybe I shall."
 
Personally I think "MySQLi" looks better than "mysqli"
 
For the version without the suffix, then "MySQL" is well-established, for sure.
 
Yes. For me it's also easier to spot the i with "MySQL" first.
 
Well, actually the old mysql_* API was called either mysql or MySQL.
I don't mind either way. I agree it looks better when capitalized
 
7:11 PM
Mixed-case names just look more official, IMHO.
 
Uff.. 20 pending Question flags :( Normally that takes about two weeks to clear :(
 
... should be a bit quicker with Sam hammering away at the CV queue.
 
..only really when some helpless user picks "Requires editing". Those always gets closed :D But I think they also need at least one close vote to be easy to spot.
 
Should I move my answer here? stackoverflow.com/questions/17902483/…
 
@Dharman Into the other Answer you posted or was that a mis-url?
 
7:16 PM
I meant should I delete my answer from the question where I added and add there instead then vote to close the other question as duplicate?
@AdrianMole Not sure I agree :D imgflip.com/i/4i21mg
 
@Dharman thAT iS bEcausE tHe wAY they Did THat maKEs it unrEAdable. One also has this choice: ThatIsBecauseTheWayTheyDidThatMakesItUnreadable
 
8:44 PM
Could I borrow someone with to fix a wrong dupe target? stackoverflow.com/questions/64298042/… got closed as a dupe but the dupe target is no good. actual dupe target: stackoverflow.com/questions/5259714/…
 
@Joshua I added that one as the first target. The other one is fine, I think, no need to remove it.
 
@Joshua I don't have a C or C++ hammer but I would (mostly) concur with your view. At the very least, the new target you suggest could be added to the dupe list.
^ ninja'd by a hammerer. :)
 
It's a hammer that looks like a pipe.. :)
 
Ce n'est pas un marteau!
 
There used to be someone in my family that smoked a pipe and.. it was used as a hammer on several occasions :)
 
8:58 PM
The post was just edited to say "SOLVED". Should I bother undoing that?
 
@cigien Yep - we don't "do" meta-content like that!
 
^ I do not think anyone will ever benefit from this post, except maybe author
 
 
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10:44 PM
^^^^^^^^I recommend closing with stackoverflow.com/q/30702547/2943403
 
I thought every ^ meant "the message above this".. ;) Putting it to 8 messages above :D
 
I'll be more careful next time. Can't edit now.
 
@mickmackusa It was just me trying to be funny..
 
I get ya.
 
10:58 PM
I posted a comment referring a user to What should I do when someone answers my question? on a post where I'm not involved. Within the hour the comment is deleted. The user has not been active within that hour and the user have a lot of Questions and have never accepted an Answer. What could be the reason that the comment is deleted?
 
I had a close vote (Needs Details/clarity) on a question. Someone dupe-hammered it, then realized it was a mistake, and reopened it. Fine so far, but my close vote disappeared, and I can't vote on the post again. That seems odd, I can't think why that would be an intentional feature.
 
That's because your vote was active when the post was closed, so the system thinks you've had your say on the post.
 
@cigien well, you can always post a cv-pls here...
 
@Scratte Oh, even if the close vote was different than a dupe? This whole hammer thing makes things tricky.
 
@cigien It does seem a bit unfair! However, I'm sure it doesn't happen very often, nor is that gold-hammer close/reopen thing deliberately used as a tactic.
 
11:03 PM
@cigien Yes. It doesn't matter which close vote you had. The result was the post was closed while you had a close vote on it.
 
@Nick Sure, I was just curious. (and I may be involved in the post, which precludes me asking here).
 
You mean you've answered a post that you've voted to close?
 
... or asked a question and then voted to close it? xD
 
Haha, no, neither. I'm actually a little unclear on what constitutes 'involvement' so I play it safe, and don't ask here if I've say, made a lot of comments on the post.
@AdrianMole No, I suppose it's not being misused this way (and certainly wasn't in this case). I must say, given the power of gold tag badges, I'm impressed there doesn't seem to be any systemic misuse of it :)
 
@cigien That's not considered involvement. You're involved if it's your Question, you have an Answer on it, or if it's your suggested edit that you want reviewed in here.
 
11:07 PM
@cigien You're only involved if you asked or answered the question (or suggested an edit): socvr.org/faq#GEfM-no-requests-youre-involved
 
There have been cases (allegedly) where two gold-tags have entered into a close/reopen battle, for less-than-honourable reasons. But not in nice tags like C++, of course.
 
@Nick Ok, that is what the faq says. I'll be less hesitant about that in the future, thanks :)
 
11:43 PM
Is the dupe right?
 
@Scratte Any comment that is not directly relevant to researchers or the OP in the scope of the question is noise and rightfully deleted by anyone in the community.
 
@mickmackusa That cannot be true. There are lots of suggestions on meta to educate users in comments on post there the education is relevant. It was certainly relevant on the 10th post of theirs with "thank you" comments from them on answers (that are still on the post). I suspect mine was deleted due to a flag from someone that just didn't want the Question author to accept any Answers on the post.
 
My opinion is that pages should ideally have zero comments. Relevant comments can/should be absorbed into the question or answer(s) that they impact. This is easier to adopt theoretically than in practice.
 
If the comment had been deleted after the user had time to see, it would have been a different matter. But it wasn't.
@mickmackusa I'm sure even you leave comments on post that educate users, and they are still there on the posts.
 
11:50 PM
I don't mean your comment is unhelpful to the OP. I also post grooming comments (alot), but ultimately this site is a researching tool and researchers don't care about the grooming.
So, it is entirely valid to remove these comments after any length of time.
 
I do not think it was flagged because someone want a clean post. They didn't flag the "thank you" comments or any other subject irrelevant comment.
@mickmackusa Ok. I do not agree with "any length". The user should have time to see it first.
 
I cannot argue your assume motivation. It may even be likely.
 
This topic is straddling what is possible and what is reasonable. Too often do people on Stack Overflow behave unreasonably ...but that behavior can also be biased folks being unaware of the consequences of their actions. This includes me too.
 
The post was posted in a now deleted meta post. I am tempted to find another post by the same user to repost my comment there.
 
11:57 PM
I don't think there is any harm in trying to get the grooming message to land. Just don't be surprised if/when it vanishes before the target receives it (for the earlier mentioned reason).
 
@mickmackusa It was not the author that flagged it. I suspect it was someone coming across the post from meta. It wasn't so much that the comment was flagged, which I suspect was sort of spiteful. For me the problem was that the flag was honored.
 

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