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00:53
@Makyen I just tried that but it's till broken...I posted this on meta.
01:20
I've updated my userscripts that were using the old post-body selector for the new s-prose class or js-post-body class. If anyone is using my userscripts just run an update.
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter it seems the non-language specific answer is actually quite useful...
 
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07:09
@JeanneDark the recommendation there was easy enough to edit out
@Adriaan Yes, but I cannot directly edit posts
@JeanneDark but I can, so I did. I don't think it's a recommendation question any more, hence the comment to you: is the cv-pls still valid?
Is the question on-topic at all?
I think it is. It is a niche but it is on-topic
@rene Please remove that cv-pls request then. Thank you!
07:14
Am I misunderstanding the "not reproducible" close reason? I mean this question which the OP self-answered. It was not the code but the emulating device and they just had to remove it.
@JeanneDark no repro for me
Thanks!
@JeanneDark yeah, me too
@RiggsFolly you know comments can have up to 500 characters and can be edited right? There's no need to leave 5 short comments, where one large one, containing all that information would suffice
07:43
@Adriaan I do and I do. Woops and we married now? Unless I am being told not to, I find if I have 5 points to make 5 seperate comments are more likely to be seen. Dont know about you, but I have notices people nowadays dont read past the first sentence of anything
@RiggsFolly I'm already happily married, thank you. No need to be rude nor offending. I tend to find a single, all-containing comment less intrusive, as it takes up a lot less space. Just my opinion.
@Adriaan Sorry, but in what possible way could you have interpreted an attempt as humour as rude or offensive
Asking here to undelete a post that I have answered isn't allowed here, right? Basically, I answered and OP instantly deleted their question, rather than commenting/accepting/voting/whatever else. I take it there are already feature requests on meta about preventing the OP from self-deleting their post for X amount of time after receiving an answer, or when having any answer etc?
07:59
@Adriaan Yes, that's not allowed here. I remember we had a discussion about that and was told that the post should be undeleted as it's just abusive to delete the Question the instant an Answer comes on it. Unfortunately the day after (maybe two days after) someone posted on meta and was told that the Question author was just using the site as they're allowed to! Though there weren't a lot of users commenting on the post, so that may be just one individual's opinion.
@Adriaan Why not flag it for moderator attention?
@Scratte the "using the site as they're allowed to" is the crux here, which is why I wondered about any possible meta feature requests. Allowed or not, it's just very rude. I put in my time and effort, and instead of rewarding me with internet unicorn points, they remove my contribution so that no-one else can see it and possibly find it helpful.
@JeanneDark because it's not something that needs a mod to deal with. Normal users can vote to undelete
@Adriaan The meta post disappeared, so I can't get it for you. The discussion said something about multiple meta posts about the issue, but I do not recall any links to those.
Unless there might be a pattern of asking questions then deleting them shortly after receiving an answer
@JeanneDark That would come with a Question ban quite fast though.
08:03
@JeanneDark which is not something a normal user can establish, unless they run afoul of the same user more than once (which isn't the case here). So one swallow does not summer make, i.e. there's no evidence after just one case
Old MSE answer: "You can also flag such a question for moderator attention and ask that it be undeleted, if you happen to get a link to such a question. They can disassociate it from the user if that user really doesn't want the question associated with them." (score: 15)
@JeanneDark mhm, no official mod/SE dev guidance though. I'll read the rest of the post + linked dupe, thanks
Mod guidance seems to be "people just need to vote more and faster". (Bill used to be a mod)
@Adriaan Yeah, I saw that, too. But it doesn't seem too helpful. I mean what if I monitor my question and immediately delete - in this case no one would have a chance to even read the answer, while I can still see it.
@Adriaan The discussion is was remembering starts here and it seems to end there
@Scratte ta; the reaction by Makyen is useful, as always. I'm still hesitant with custom mod-flagging though; Makyen wasn't mod back then
08:14
Yes, but I remember the conversation mostly because of this "Yes this is a common scenario that has been railed against multiple times on Meta." by TylerH. Especially because someone did post on meta the day after and was basically shot down.
FAQ: "For questions and answers: You are "involved" in the question and all answers to the question if you are the author of the question or the author of any non-deleted, non-community-wiki answer on the question. For undel-pls requests, you are also involved if a non-community-wiki answer you authored was deleted at the same time as the question." (to answer your initial question)
The problem, I guess, is that when the answer boils down to "It's a typo" or something similar silly and off-topic. There'd be no quality keeping it around, as the question should be closed and potentially roomba'd.
@JeanneDark I guessed as much. Thanks.
But if the question and answer do have lasting value...
@JeanneDark mhm, it wasn't the greatest of questions, solved by a 3 seconds-thought-about one-liner. Valid for SO nonetheless (might be a dupe though, I didn't check for that yet)
@JeanneDark Yes, that was my scenario as well when I brought it up :) One can do exactly that. There's an inbox notification when an Answer comes in, so it's easy to go directly to one's Question, hope no one voted on the new Answer, and just delete.
08:23
@Adriaan Maybe more relevant is Cody's comment: "Of course, the deletion was invalid, so I have undeleted it. Moderator flags are welcome in blatant cases like this."
@JeanneDark Custom flag it is!
That's nice of Cody. But the meta post where the result was opposite was really no different than that one. This is the meta post, that I can't see
Now I hope your flag won't be declined so I didn't give bad advice
09:30
Is this a typo? Anyone with HTML/CSS knowledge? Comment seems to suggest so (cc @TylerH)
10:12
Is this question on-topic? OP basically has written some codes, and then asks "I want to know if what I did is good?"
@Adriaan I'd say it should be closed. There's no correct answer. Both "Yes" and "No" being seemingly conflicting answers are valid.
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter LINK!
user12867493
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter :)
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter ;-)
10:27
@Daniil OP translated. Is it reopenable now?
user12867493
@Adriaan I asume so.
@E_net4theerrorhandler Ooh, how do I order? Do you deliver to the UK?
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter Did you type this request by hand? because you can install the SO Close Vote Reviewers userscript to make your life easier
@halfer I am an error handler, not a delivery man.
@AlonEitan: yes, by hand
I will check it out, thanks
10:31
YW
@E_net4theerrorhandler throw new WaffleException('Delivery for halfer, with maple syrup') <-- could you handle this plz? :=)
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What is this "WaffleException"?
user12867493
6 mins ago, by E_net4 the error handler
Waffles!
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter I know it's bad practice to use exceptions for ordinary waffle-delivery program flow, but it's the only way I can get a tasty delivery.
@halfer catch (WaffleException e) { logger.error("Waffles!", e); System.exit(-1); } :)
(it's handled, although perhaps not the way you wished for)
10:33
It's CPU expensive
delivery.add(new Customer(...), new Order(...); delivery.go();
{halfer yums}
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter I didn't use the correct link - this is the link to the script github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/UserScripts/blob/master/… and you can run it using this extension tampermonkey.net
@AlonEitan thanks, got it
The russian question has been edited to english. Do you think it is eligible for reopen?
10:41
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter If I cared about that I wouldn't be using Java. :P
@E_net4theerrorhandler: whoa, them's fighting words!
:50329860 Why did you remove your messages?
Arguably, performance isn't too bad. The worst part is the memory footprint.
@Scratte: they were no longer needed
@Scratte: @Daniil had ninja'd me to the CV-PLS
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter Hmm.. but lots of regulars read the transcripts.
10:44
@Scratte: you would think that they would have better things to do with their time
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter Does it matter? :) It was funny.. now it's confusing :(
@Scratte apologies for confusing
:)
@halfer error: ')' expected
@Scratte Don't worry, the AI in the compiler will fix it up ;=)
@Vega Might be worth a custom flag to see if there's some voting fraud going on
@halfer i am a new to programming, pls give me the codes for waffle delivery to me? Tahnks in advanced
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@halfer I prefer just delete and move on :(
10:59
If someone comments about a user's account on meta, when the meta post is completely unrelated to any actions taken by the account, but instead something like a burnination request, is that considered "No longer needed" or "unkind" abount the comment about the account is speculation?
@Scratte Was just about to ask something closely related to that
@JeanneDark We're probably looking at the same comment :)
I don't remember interacting with that user before. The comment reads "I think you are downvoter account and a false identity. Doing that is allowed on the SE rules, but I found you."
I'd like to add that I thought of replying to the comment saying that it doesn't correlate with what I'd say was the user's learning process about Stack Overflow during the latest months. But I can't really see how a conversation going down that path is constructive or even relevant.
I can't see that either
11:06
@Scratte ?!?.. "abount the comment about the account"?!?.. what does that even mean? -> is that considered "No longer needed" or "Unkind" due to unrelated speculation about the account?
11:20
@Vega Some urgent tanks are advancing on the Stack Overflow lawn! Prepare the waffle-cannon to repel the plz-halp-me invaders!
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Readying my flag machine gun.
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@klutt Do you want it to be deleted immediately? Because it get so automatically in 10 days by Roomba.
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio Hmmm, that's true. Just saw no reason to believe that it will be fixed, and someone might upvote the answer which could prevent Roomba from deleting it, right?
@klutt Yea, might be. A "What does that?" question. I see no evidence to keep it. It's okay. I can't vote to delete. Let's see what happens.
11:52
That's quite a burst.
I'm slowing down now...
12:33
@Scratte I flagged it as "no longer needed", the flag was marked helpful and the comment's gone.
@JeanneDark Yay :) btw.. you're on a SEDE query. It was non-mentioned in the Ministry once. I'll find it for you, if you're curious :)
@Scratte Thanks, not necessary. I think I know that one already :)
@JeanneDark OK :) You seem to be in "good" company ;)
@Adriaan LOL
@Dharman :D
Great minds think alike and all that
@DalijaPrasnikar That answer also does look a bit like NAA
@JeanneDark A bit? ;-)
13:28
There were 9 NAA flags on that answer :P
Everyone wanted a piece of the cake
@JeanneDark I already flagged it, so there was no need to ask for flagging, if that is what you mean.
ugh, the line-height fix totally ruins the stack snippet editor
back to the drawing board
@Adriaan Yes it is a typo
I kinda suspect they made that change later
because I don't recall it being so horrible yesterday when I first applied the change
At least I think I opened up a stack snippet after I applied my user styles
wait, and wut, my quote style doesn't work either -_- not sure if it's because the thing I'm looking at is a snippet or not
why is it always a cluster* every 6 months when they ruin all the styles
ugh, yes, the quote background color is broken
Re my above cv-pls request: They now posted their full code, no MCVE
@JeanneDark is the full code not enough to debug or are you saying it's simply not minimal?
@TylerH Not minimal. Is it still fine?
"Needs debugging details" asks specifically for the "shortest code necessary to reproduce the problem"
14:31
@JeanneDark That's true, though if someone posts all their code, the "minimal" bit is not so big a deal if it doesn't really require that much scrolling... in this specific case I'm not sure the entirety of OP's program isn't needed.
If I were a stickler about the minimal aspect of MCVE then I would have to close almost all HTML or CSS questions as "no MCVE" because they usually include at least one style or one element that isn't actually relevant/required to reproduce the issue.
That "minimal" bit is just included as a CYA provision for when someone posts 1000 lines of code for something that only needs 15 lines to reproduce :-)
@TylerH But most of those are easily fixable by editing out the irrelevant parts.
@Braiam Not sure how this case would be any different from that
(Which IMO, doesn't happen with the frequency that should)
@TylerH We are speaking generally, so I obviously don't consider this case
if one knows only some of the code is needed for repro, be it CSS or Python or Haskell, one should remove the unnecessary code rather than post a cv-pls under the reason "no minimal CVE"
@TylerH I thought it was to keep the question also relevant for others. E. g. if I had a similar issue in the future as the OP, I don't know if such a question would be helpful to me (where I'd to wade through their program). Also, creating an MCVE is a useful debugging skill in itself.
14:36
My point is that of the conditions "Minimal", "Complete", "Reproducible", the "Minimal" is the one that is least important/most open to interpretation :-)
@TylerH Again, doesn't happen with the regularity that should.
@JeanneDark I agree, if more people actually made their MCVEs minimal, a lot fewer questions would be asked.
It's also not clear (to me at least) what the desired output is and when it stops (and should stop)
@Machavity oh man, a scrollsaw... now I'm drooling :-)
@desertnaut yes, off-topic
15:21
@TylerH Is it though? It's not well-asked, but I think it's largely asking what does error code 21105 mean? That's something that's not transient, is about the API, and is valuable. Yes, it's a hosted API on a third party service, but that's programming these days.
There's already a canonical on apple forums developer.apple.com/forums/thread/113565
Also it's known issue in the release note
@MattB. it's not well-asked indeed; OP remembered to mention that "this happen only when you use restoreCompletedTransactions() function" only after the question was closed
Now fixed
The self-answer pledges for the non-programmatic issue
The edit is good, because the OP's edit was not so friendly, IMO
15:42
@Vega I would disagree — they're developing an app, it's hitting an API, the API is returning an error code. Sure, the root problem is hidden behind the API, but it's highly programmatic.
@MattB. It is an issue that is caused by a new glitch on Apple's servers, based on the information available in the question and answers. Regardless of whether it only gets seen based on certain calls written by programmers, it's still not something programmers can fix, not something programmers introduced, and not something that is going to last forever, as far as I can tell.
@DonaldDuck Why not the other way round? The proposed duplicate target is much newer
@janw My second comment explains that: I think that the duplicate target is more clear since it clearly marks what part of the code gives the warning.
Oh, nevermind, did not see your comment. Sorry!
OP agreed... but didn't self-hammer :)
15:44
@TylerH I fail to see how that makes it out of scope for SO. Asking what an API's error code means and how to fix it is a perfectly cromulent question. You just don't like the answer.
@MattB. The fixing here is for apple to fix their mess. There's nothing you can do. You are using the api the way it's supposed to. Also, it's a transient problem.
I don't disagree with any of that. Still don't see how any of it makes it off-topic.
@MattB. Would the answer change in a couple weeks?
Maayyybe it's a "Questions about a problem that can no longer be reproduced or that was caused by a simple typographical error."
There you have it :)
15:51
but I'd hope that the error code is actually identifying the error
and thus if it re-appears, folks will google it, find this, and then realize it's not their problem
The code is something that the api is returning, it ma makes sense for apple, but you as a ios developer, you can't do anything with it.
This looks similar to the recent npm outage. n duplicates appeared, we closed them all with a common target, which was locked afterwards. IMO it is okay if the question stays, but it will probably not be answerable after the issue is (hopefully) fixed
This is a bigger issue with developers: Not all questions are for Stack Overflow
People kind want SO to be the single shop they have for all their programming questions... but it's not.
This is a bigger issue with this room: Not all questions must be closed
And if they are closed, the reasons should be appropriate
@MattB. I doubt how that makes sense.
This room was created precisely because questions that should be closed weren't.
15:55
I fully agree not all questions are for SO
But some are
If it's a question that is well-answered and still getting lots of spammy/low-quality attention, there are other tools to fix that
Yeah, like deletion :D
Have you ever talked to a developer who has had their good-faith question blithely closed and deleted?
But there is a point where the efforts to maintain a question outweigh the potential benefits.
@MattB. No, because I expect people not to ask questions on SO.
I beg them to not do it.
Cripes that's a toxic viewpoint to hold
Because most of the time they ask me about their problem I find the solution without asking on SO.
15:59
@janw Yes, and the target was closed/locked because everyone was just posting "me too" answers since it wasn't an issue people could solve on their own.
@MattB. How it's toxic? The problem gets solved and people don't need to moderate a question unnecessarily. That's the perfect state.
Everyone is happy.
@MattB. We don't seek to close all questions here. What this room does is help draw attention to questions that at least one member thinks might be close-worthy, reopen-worthy, or delete-worthy (as well as similar actions for suggested edits in some cases). In many cases we have healthy discussion about specific questions.
@TylerH Yes - maybe I wasn't clear, with "stay" I meant "don't delete", but leave it closed so others can find it in case of a future outage and don't post their own. But I agree that the more appropriate close reason for the edited question is "not reproducible". I would vote to close with this reason, in case the question gets reopened.
@MattB. If you have an issue with this, you can refer back to some of the existing threads on Meta about the room or start a new one if you have something constructive to discuss. Otherwise, perhaps the room is not the right place for you to hangout, especially if you intend to brigade primarily from an "anti-SOCVR" perspective. We tolerate and somewhat encourage differences in viewpoints, but we don't tolerate constant antagonism toward the room or its users.
@janw Yes, I do agree it should definitely not be deleted at this point in time.
@TylerH I'm here to help participate in that healthy debate
A debate that I've found to be anemic
16:06
@MattB. As part of the room rules, we discourage extended discussion around individual questions. If you have broached the subject and come to a different conclusion than others, you have a few options. You can invite them to discuss it further elsewhere, drop the discussion, or take it to Meta if it is that important/significant. Likewise, this room is not the place to debate in genere the merits of closing a question or how that affects users who posted in good faith.
I'll hope you see that I do regularly agree and vote to close questions when I keep tabs here. And — like that edit above — I'm working on improving things and not just sharpening axes or "brigading."
16:22
Huh? We discuss individual requests all the time here.
@MattB. I don't generally open each request to keep a running log of who from the room votes on it. It's good to try and salvage things; we all hopefully do that when possible. But as you can see we don't always agree on what is appropriate to salvage.
@Scratte Who said we don't discuss individual requests?
@TylerH Or if it's possible at all
@TylerH Could you delete this CV request? It's been modified, and an answer has come in, so perhaps it is more answerable than I thought. Thanks! chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/50329897#50329897
@TylerH @halfer binned per request
@TylerH I thought you just did.
16:33
@MattB. Service outages are not a solvable problem. Google had a major one last week and there's nothing we can do really. The question was left solely as a landmark, since Google had to fix it
16:46
@Machavity Awesome, thanks for the reference.
16:58
Arkansas and Louisiana are looking for good roofers, I gather.
That's totally a code question, roofing has to follow all sorts of building codes!
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17:21
CVs for the day exhausted ... here beginneth the weekend! :-)
@AdrianMole Not so fast, you get 50 new CVs tomorrow ;)
@JeanneDark I'm a Welshman ... the concept of such a long look-ahead is entirely alien to my race.
@AdrianMole I thought you had to exhaust all your votes. What about reopen votes? :)
@Scratte Hmmm ... you need more Sputniks, or whatever that posh stuff you drink is called.
... but delete votes are still cool: I can vote to drelete even when I'm dunk.
@AdrianMole It's called Suktinis. And I'm all out :( I'm unlikely to get more, since I'd have to go to Vilnius to get it.
18:09
So did you guys see that rene was rejected from Shutterstock?
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oh goodness, people in the reopen queue are really paying attention...someone edited the solution into a question and it got reopened because they added a bunch of code. facepalm
It's a good answer, though, so I'm going to try to coax them into adding it as an answer and then leaving the question...
worst case is to extract the section as a Community Wiki answer
Yeah, if they don't fix it on their own I'll do that. I'd like to upvote it, though :-)
@gunr2171 That's discrimination! He should totally sue
*in narrator voice*: @Ryan had to do it anyways
18:14
haha...well, maybe. They've engaged with me in the comments a bit previously, so they might do it :-)
@RyanM Not sure I understand. Someone added "an attempt"?
@Scratte No, they added the answer to the question. It was quite broad but I think their answer is actually useful, it just needs to be an answer.
The reopen reviewers saw a bunch of text and code added and thought it was an attempt
@bad_coder follow the same advice for homework questions
@RyanM Oh. Never mind me then :)
@gunr2171 Why is that?
18:21
@Scratte it's a requirements dump...minus a description of the actual requirements, in this case...
@RyanM But the help center doesn't say anything about those not being fine.
It's not a question
"Hey, I want to make an X, and it should do Y!"
that's not a question, it's a program description
@gunr2171 But I want to make Y and it should do X! That's totally different
Here's my auto comment for it: All that has been posted is a program description. However, we need you to ask a question according to the How to Ask page. We can't be sure what you want from us. Please [edit] your post to include a valid question that we can answer. Reminder: make sure you know what is on-topic here by visiting the [help/on-topic]; asking us to write the program for you, suggestions, and external links are off-topic.
@Scratte "Questions asking for homework help must include a summary of the work you've done so far to solve the problem, and a description of the difficulty you are having solving it." - it's not meaningfully different if you call it an interview problem instead of homework
18:24
@RyanM I always understood the homework restriction to be "we don't want to mess with education". That's all.
But.. I don't understand the Question. So for me it needs clarity. I don't understand how 6 needs be first removed and then added to make them equal.
@Scratte That's not how I would have put it. Just solving random homework problems isn't helpful for future visitors, nor does it actually help most students learn (e.g. they should already have access to a lot of examples). OTOH, explaining enough to get someone past something where they are not understanding and/or where they are having trouble can be helpful, and might be found by future visitors (probably not all that likely, but possible).
@Makyen I thought those interview questions were reused a lot :) But.. I'm not happy about the title, because it makes it useless in a search. On the topic of useless for future visitors, I think that boat has sailed with all the "My code isn't working"-titled debugging questions :D
@Scratte eventually they will exhaust all the possible "it's not working" titles and be forced to actually describe their problem
aaaaaaannnnyyyyy day now
@RyanM "I tried but line 5842 give error. Plz help".. what could possibly be changed to make that unique? :D
18:34
Dang it @Machavity, you beat me to closing that by 14 seconds.
@Makyen Ya snooze ya lose :P
waffle
@RyanM thanks for the waffle - fixed
@RyanM seems others can fix a waffle. Time to get that maker :)
18:38
@gunr2171 indeed, questions need to be in the form of a question.
19:14
@Braiam Update: I did not have to do it :-)
And now they have 10 more rep as a reward for following advice.
What is going on with this answer? stackoverflow.com/a/3127352/1839439
Is this a bug? Was the delete behaviour different in the past?
@Dharman It's deleted.
I think I will raise a meta question...
@Braiam Yeah, that much I see, but how is it possible?
@Dharman because it still appears as accepted?
You can't delete answers if they are accepted
19:40
so on top?
@Dharman Yep, you can.
As long as they are -1
doesn't say by whom
This was deleted by the author and the score is positive
Author has been moderator?
@Braiam Then it would not be accepted anymore. When an answer is deleted it is automatically unaccepted
19:43
@Dharman how can you say it was deleted by the author?
@desertnaut Fair point, it doesn't actually say that. I just assumed
Ok, I am off to Meta
nope, one more dark point
just having a nosey - one sec @Dharman
a nosey?
a nosey?
19:45
colloquialism for "taking a look"
being nosey and taking a look
@Dharman might be missing something obvious but yup - don't know - that wouldn't happen now, so guessing it's a case of how things were back ~2011...
@Dharman It was deleted 9 years ago. Not as much information was kept wrt. deletions. The user is deleted, so that's going to make it even more difficult to say what's going on.
Could it be a case where users who were deleted by a mod caused the system to auto delete their content?
I asked on Meta, maybe some of the users know more: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/400740/…
19:54
@TylerH maybe? Can't tell though as user deletions back then don't store the stub info to review if that's the case or not...
Normally this is where we'd prod Shog to take a look... T_T
20:09
@TylerH @Daniil binned this as it has been translated to English (shortly after posting, in fact). If it is close-worthy for another reason, you may re-post a request for that reason.
@RyanM If the space is big enough, there will be no attack.. and hence no one needs to claim self-defense? :)
@Scratte If only paragraph spacing could solve all the world's problems.
@RyanM ?
@RyanM The law there is very different from the one here. Here one is responsible for the safety of others while they're on one's property - even if they entered unlawfully :O But of course one can always try to claim insanity.. due to spacing ;)
20:44
@TylerH the inconsistency in the spacing between those lines is...a lot.
(as possible additional context that may be missing, that's a post on an SE site, affected by the changes to post rendering)
21:06
@RyanM the real question is why aren't you using the published line-height: 1.3 fix yet? :-)
21:31
Off-topic, perhaps on server fault How to connect to server? - jackcf 2020-08-26 23:-2:47Z
@10Rep nice try :-) let's not potentially confuse the cleanup script or folks' effort like that
@TylerH Fine :D. How did you know, though?
A few things: the URRS user script adds the state of posts to the end of the message depending on the type of request. Your request didn't have anything on it or autoformat at all. Second, when I hovered it, the URL bar at the bottom of my browser showed it was YouTube. At that point, it was trivial to note the URI fragment for the video ID as having w4w in it to confirm that it was indeed the Rick Roll video
@TylerH So, as long as it is a reupload I can rickroll you? Gotcha!
@Braiam lol
good luck getting it not taken down by a copyright claim
That video is definitely one of the ones they keep the closest eye on copies of
@gunr2171 It says in the question that the blurry flower is lacking in focus and is too noisy {thinking}
@halfer that's not an excuse to cv-pls rene : )
@gparyani That's unexpected.. and probably very bad :(
@Scratte Why is that bad? Having opportunities to properly enter the reopen queue is good.
Weird arcane requirements shouldn't factor into it.
@RyanM It means no one can edit the body without putting it into the reopen queue.
It will even Roomba before time is up on the 70 days.
I have one Question I'd like to edit at present, but.. it's already been to the reopen queue, so I think it's not worth it.
21:59
@Scratte That's mostly a problem due to robbing the OP of the chance to make the edit (sure, it wastes a bit of review time, too, but eh...)
@Scratte I assume you're involved and couldn't [reopen-pls] it?
@RyanM No. I'm not. I only tried to help the Question author and they got it wrong. I understood the Question perfectly, but others are saying it's unclear. Now I asked them if my understanding was right, and it was. I think they do not speak very well English.
@Scratte Then, if you'd like to edit it to clarify, why is the fact that it's been through the reopen queue a problem? We can just review it here.
And we'll probably do a better job than the queue, because the interface is awful...
@gunr2171 I was thinking and . But I know we're not allowed to focus on one person :=)
I'd love to use those tags during work...
@RyanM I'm not feeling very optimistic, to be honest. I also need to rephrase the entire Question and I don't want to make another edit. So that leaves me phrasing the Question on pastebin and giving a link in a comment for the author to see.
..and I don't ask good Questions, and how-to Questions are even worse for me.
I can put a vote on it when I get to 3K though :D
22:08
I think many of your gripes would be improved at 2K where you can just edit stuff
3K would help you, too, but those are easier to do *-pls requests for
@RyanM Me being able to just edit stuff and then actually do it would not help anyone else having the same problem with editing as I do. It would like saying "Oh.. now I don't have this problem anymore, so I'm just going to forget about it. I'm not on your side anymore"
@Scratte I don't disagree with you, but there's very little I can do about that problem. I've upvoted the relevant feature requests. I've even made a feature request myself that would marginally help positive edits not be rejected.
@RyanM I know you can't do anything :) I'm just saying that my reputation is irrelevant to the problem. So getting to 2K is not going to change anything.
@Scratte It would increase by one the number of curators able to fix problems :-)
22:13
@RyanM How?
Assuming that you subsequently un-uBlock the button, you'd be able to edit posts without requiring those edits to be reviewed, thus allowing you to fix problematic posts
@RyanM That would be saying to Stack "It's fine now. I'll go and do what you want and forget I got punished. And.. forget that others still do". I don't plan to edit until the feature-request is implemented.
22:53
@10Rep No little c:(1) on the right margin. :)
@DanielWiddis Where?
@10Rep the not-really-a-cv-pls earlier. Sorry, slow to reply.
@DanielWiddis Oh, that. I know, I wrote that by hand :D. In any case, it's rotting in dev/null.
The user-script I'm using (beta cv-pls thing?) puts the existing number of CV's on the right margin in chat. I think I got it in my script cache before it got nulled :)
@10Rep It's still here.. why did you think it's in dev/null ?
22:59
@Scratte I thought it was moved... let me check.
This one hasn't been moved because I handwrote it: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/50334469#50334469
@10Rep You don't need to check. Just click on the arrow on the left side of my reply message :)
I didn't realise you replied to that message... still getting used to chat
@10Rep That little arrow means I replied to a message. Click it will get you right to it :)
I need to write a code fragment using the lyrics and ask a question about it, then post it here. ;)
23:05
@DanielWiddis You can't post a reopen-pls on your own post ;)
That's what sockpuppets are made for! :D
Username: Ricardo Rollo
@10Rep Not sure what magic you wanted me to see, but I get a Redirect Notice from that link.
@Scratte Me too, I thought it was just my employer trying to protect me from Spongebob.
@Scratte I would post the image, but I can't access imgur now for some reason.
@10Rep Maybe you should access the close queue instead. ;)
23:09
@DanielWiddis Would you like to donate 900 reputation to @10 Rep?
@10Rep You posted a link to google with a link to Spongebob, not a link to Spongebob :)
@Scratte I realised that, and tried to access imgur. Result: Google Chrome has stopped working!
@10Rep What is wrong with just posting Spongebob? You don't need to create an image out of an image :)
@Scratte I didn't see that website originally. I just linked the google results.
@10Rep That doesn't work :) Then you go to the link via google. Which then causes the redirect notice.
23:17
@Scratte It didn't ask me to redirect when I tested it.
@10Rep Strange. Maybe it's reversed magic :D

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