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There's a Java naming convention. Not sure how that's really off-topic. There's even an official link to it.
@Scratte Given multiple Java conventions which differ on some things, I don't think that rises to the level of W3C consortium saying "you should X".
@DanielWiddis FWIW I don't see a reason to close this. All it needs is some editing to make it better
@Dharman We are in agreement, then. I'm just trying to think of how to edit it.
Asking for W3C standards is not asking for off-site resources.
It also can't be opinion based
it seems it might just be a "recommendation" though... I'll admit to not having read up on W3C stuff... but have read a lot of RFCs... and there's differences between may/should/must etc...
21:02
@Dharman True, but that does change the OP's meaning. If they knew W3C they might not have asked here....
the option in the comments on the Q seems equally valid
@JonClements Agree 100% on "must/should" etc. The thing is, this is specifically in the context of accessibility which many of us (at least me) don't often think about.
@DanielWiddis I probably still would ask here, reading their site is not so straigh-forwards
This fits under the fact that they're using a tool to help with HTML design, and asking how to satisfy the requirements of that tool.
In other words, it's almost less of a [HTML] and more of a [WC3-Validation] (if such a tag existed)
@MattB. There is an HTML standard requiring an alt tag exists. It doesn't say what to put in it, though. So here we are.
21:05
I hear Stack is always happy about new tags :D
Oh, such a tag does exist
Of course it exists, we have so it only makes sense to have
Why do we have this? stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/shift "Questions related to the usage of the right and/or left shift key on the keyboard."
How about editing to say: "Is there guidance on the content of the alt tag in this situation?" (Guidance >> "Best practice" )
Also is definitely appropriate here.
21:15
@DanielWiddis Is that a signed shift?
I have updated the question for you all
@Scratte No, it's much greater than
@TylerH "authoritative reference". I like that!
Yes, I think lots of accessibility questions are essentially about best practices. Perhaps that's the category that successfully threads the needle through the caveats in the meta answer
@TylerH I wish we could upvote edits. ;)
@MattB. Before specs were created it 100% was just about best practices. Now that there are specs to follow (and in some cases, decisions in court about compliance), it's very much not an opinion-based matter... so long as it is phrased that way.
I'm not sure if in most cases the questions just need to be rephrased or if they truly are about opinions
I have seen more than a few pure-design questions masquerading as accessibility ones
21:19
@TylerH Also good edit to the answer. I was just about to do that.
@Dharman Oh, you have discovered the keyboard tags!
This looks like a valid dupe: stackoverflow.com/questions/22661532/…
Did you check out ?
@Dharman not particularly; if anything in their current states that Q should be duped of the more recent one; it references recommendations from some random website, whereas the more recent one at least references W3C content.
I may provide a WCAG-based answer to the 2018 later if I have time.
I'm also out of CVs so can't hammer either direction at the moment.
I'm pretty sure this question was asked before, but maybe I don't know what to look for
21:28
I'm sure it has been too.
FWIW I have updated the title of the 2018 one again to be a bit more broadly applicable, making it a little more attractive as a target for dupes
that it's for a loading image is pretty much irrelevant; the important bit is that there is no relevant/applicable alt text to provide
@TylerH Rather than "Is there a", which is a yes/no question, I would suggest something along the lines of "What is a", which asks for the actual information (or "How can I implement X in a"). Also to be avoided is "Where can I find", which is the resource request issue.
@Makyen I dunno, I would expect a "yes" answer to also include the thing I'm asking for
otherwise it's getting a downvote for not being a particularly helpful answer
at least by name if not by actual link
@Makyen If the request is for the authoritative spec then "Where can I find" is fine, per that one Shog chat message in Trogdor...
^^ Might be spam but I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt
@tink What details are required?
@Scratte I went for details and clarity as I couldn't understand what they were saying
@DavidBuck You need a course in "international" :) Or perhaps "Gibberish". Someone told me I can read gibberish :)
Sorry.. chat moved when I was clicking the reply-thingy on the right :(
@TylerH Yes, but answering a yes/no question with "yes" or "no" is a valid answer, even if not all that helpful. It's not a valid answer if you're asking for "What is".
@TylerH Yes, and no. It's still going to get flags, and still isn't nearly as useful as "What is". Note that I didn't say it was specifically off-topic, I said it's an issue, which it is, and will continue to be throughout the life of the question.
22:19
@Dharman I'd like to hear whether or not he just copied the script over to Linux using the same paths and assumed it would work
@tink No, the question and the comments say that they used Linux path
How about sample output from the Linux end then ...
It's also there in the question
Appears to have been added after my close vote ...
is this question RA? as it seems to ask to crack something on a site, or is it just too broad/needs focus? stackoverflow.com/questions/63605804/…
22:36
@Vickel Why would that be rude/abusive?
@Makyen abusive, because it seems to ask to crack a site to make it available without restrictions
but maybe I'm just misreading the question
@Vickel While that may be something that we individually consider abusive of the people that wrote the software/site, it's not really something SO considers as "rude or abusive". R/A is primarily about being rude or abusive here on SO. While I'm not 100% clear on what the question is really asking, "cracking" is something that's a legal issue in any particular legal jurisdiction.
@Makyen what triggered me was "can do it Smart School M S for making free to end of life and make changes on back-end codes to remove restriction", but maybe I just misread/interpreted the whole post. Thanks for your input, as always!
22:57
@Vickel I'm not really sure what they are asking. I think they are asking for help cracking software. While I can make a good argument that it is rude/abusive to the people who wrote the code, and by extension everyone involved in creating and distributing software, it's not something that's R/A flaggable.
23:14
@Makyen I found this meta meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/267699/… so closing it is the right action, everything else not defined :)
23:45
@Vickel Thanks. That's consistent with my understanding. I believe I'd see that one before, but didn't have it bookmarked.
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