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@M-- I think most of the world uses m for milli (1/1000) and M for mega (1000000) :)
@M-- Yes, looking at the both questions I'd say they are the same
@Scratte In finance, M can also mean mill (1000). MM is used for 1000000 to avoid ambiguity.
@DanielWiddis I bet they do that to confuse people. Also mill as thousand sound like it has French origins.
20:18
@DanielWiddis In Runescape, the arbiter for financial terminology, they just used thousands and Ks, e.g. 3500k for 3.5m (3500000)
@Scratte or the roman numeral M? (ergo, Latin, which French is derived from.)
@TylerH @akrun I've binned this as it's an invalid request currently for 20k and 10k users. Once it's eligible for delete votes, you may re-post a request if you like
@TylerH but usually k is just 1000. It gets confusing when m is used for million when it's being used for 1/1000 too. Like 1 ml as in milli litre.
@M-- I've flagged for moderators to take a look at merging those two JS questions
@Scratte are we talking money here, btw?
if so then m is not used for 1/1000
@TylerH No. Reputation :)
20:20
you can't have 1/1000 of a reputation point
@TylerH It can feel like it :D But.. why not used the ones that are already defined, so 10k and 1M ?
@Scratte I agree with those and use them for 10,000 and 1,000,000
@TylerH It started with someone having OCD about the use of k in 1203k to represent Jon Skeet's reputation points. They argue it should be 1,20m. That's just where my OCD kicks in :) I'd want that to be 1,20M <-- capital M :) ..since 1.20m is impossible :)
@Scratte ah, well it definitely shouldn't be 1,20M because this isn't Germany, it's America!
and you could say 1.20m or 1.20M and they'd both be fine, though a little weird (no need to add insignificant figures at the end, just say 1.2m or 1.2M)
Try Europe.. Germany isn't all of Europe.
20:27
I thought Germany was the only country who did that weird comma thing
kind of like how Windows servers are superior to Linux servers, and the most obvious way to tell is that URL paths on Windows servers are case-insensitive, but Linux is case-sensitive
In Denmark we do 1.200.235,25 :) We separate the whole with the parts with a , and use dots to separate the whole numbers into parts of 3 digits each
@Scratte Gross :-P
So my 1,20M is just habbit :) The reason for adding the 0 at the end it to make it 4 characters (excluding the ,). Else it'll go from 1.29M to 1.3M changing the amount of digits... and again to 1.31M
..America hmm? That's huge.. you mean to say that they use the . between whole and parts in Guyana too? :)
20:53
@DanielWiddis I thought M&M meant chocolate and peanuts.
@bad_coder Peanuts are optional. It's the candy covering of the chocolate that's the key element. ;)
@Braiam Ohh man, I was watching the news...Sean Connery turned 90 yo today. And guess what?!...He's living in the Bahamas :D !!
@DanielWiddis Indeed what inexcusable oversight on my part :)
@AdrianMole It 's obvious we a double agent, "a mole".
21:11
@bad_coder Congratulations on your Steward badge for reviewing "Help and Improvement" :) That is not a small achievement!
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@Vega I wanted to let you know I got the H&I steward badge today. Quite a small club of people have it. I actually interacted with a few of them, by chance, and most were really kind to me.
@Scratte thanks!! :D It was a handful of work, especially because folks took issue with the system-generated comments. Mods even contacted me twice about it. But it was interesting.
@rene any chance you could tell us how many H&I steward badges have been attributed? It has to be less than 230, but there's no way to filter the badges per queue.
@bad_coder Yes. I remember. It makes no sense..
@bad_coder probably around 25
@bad_coder how many H&I reviews do you have?
@TylerH can't be that few...I have 1000 reviews.
@bad_coder well #20 on the list has 1182
so how many do you think there are between 1182 and you?
21:26
@TylerH Ohhh I forgot to subtract the obvious users that went over 1000. But I was hoping Rene or someone knowledgeable could check with a quick SEDE query if it's not too much trouble...
@TylerH I tried finding a SEDE query for this but didn't find any.
@bad_coder Meh ... Your phrase, "Rene or someone knowledgeable" has (possibly involuntary) negative connotations. Needs details or clarity! :-)
Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible to query. SEDE doesn't appear to have the user who completed a review task: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2677/…
rene would know for sure, of course
And the badges don't appear to have a queue associated
@AdrianMole no negative connotation that I could think of (honestly). Rene has always been super friendly towards me so I would expect him not to take any offense at that.
Friendliness from a flower can be feigned!
@AdrianMole A person is behind the avatar. And good faith implies giving the best possible interpretation to what is said.
21:31
Maybe ... maybe not?
@Dharman Great opening line in that answer: "...not teh value of the id" ??!
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@TylerH thanks for the flag
@RyanM Now, you're just playing ruff!
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@Scratte I don't want my username in Jon Skeet's reputation. That's why :))
@M-- lol! I did not see that coming :)
@YagizcanDegirmenci Did you flag it?
@YagizcanDegirmenci FYI we can't delete NAA in this room. The proper course of action is to flag and let moderators remove it.
^ ... or the Reviewers in the LQP queue.
@bad_coder nope, that can't be done. @RyanM is right. For Badges we only have the user but in the ReviewTask we lack the userid, so we have no way to join those.
FR you might want to support: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/281411/…
@rene Is there a way we can return ID of review items as a link like we can with User as [User Link]
21:57
@rene "Your vote is now locked in unless this question is edited."
I suppose one could scrape the Steward badges page and count users for the different queues.
@Scratte don't steal my thunder
@TylerH I think the way I've seen it done is to put a string with 'site/review/' + id
@TylerH Sorry :) Are you doing it? :) (though I don't understand where you get the number 1182 from)
@AdrianMole I detect some tale under that statement.
22:03
@Scratte the lowest user on the top 20 reviewers page has that many reviews
it is just an approximation
I am scraping manually just as another approximation from the point in the Steward badge pages where that user earned the badge for H&I, onward to most recent.
@TylerH I've never heard of that. What page is that?
~143 pages, current on page 99
@Scratte It's the stats tab of each Review queue
Oops.. checking it out ;)
22:20
OK, done scanning, now to count...
@TylerH beautiful :) last time I web scrapped something was in 2004 using Java 1.3 if I recall correctly.
@rene thank you Rene I appreciate it. That explains a lot.
@RyanM well spotted apart adapting one or the other query I haven't had time to check out SEDE, but that page looks really informative.
@bad_coder since NoNaMe got the badge on December 1, 2015, 76 additional people have gotten the badge as well, including you. Of those 76, 11 are on the top 20 board, so probably 85 +/- 10 or so is a safe guesstimate.
I will now close these ~100 tabs...
@TylerH didn't you scrape the steward badge page? Shouldn't they all be listed there?
@bad_coder I only started from page 142 or 143, where NoNaMe's entry was
hence why my number is a guesstimate rather than an actual number
@TylerH Ok !! I'll take it as a good estimate, so between 75-95...That's even more amazing than I thought.
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Perhaps surprisingly, perhaps not, a lot of users stop reviewing that much after they get the badge
@TylerH scrape using tabs...Back when I started scrapping Firefox had just only introduced tabs and that was a novelty. My idea of scraping is getting an HTML answer out of a socket :|
To draw any reliable conclusions about whether that happens in H&I (I suspect it does, personally) more often than in other queues, we'd need the total number of badges for each queue so we could measure as a percentage of reviewers who are within n distance of 1000
@bad_coder I "scraped" the old fashioned way... clicking links, scrolling, and counting :-P
took me about ~30 minutes for 140 pages...
@TylerH I owe you one. Don't know how I'll pay back, but promise I won't forget about this.
@bad_coder Create a script that does this, in brainf
lol
it actually would be pretty quick of a group of people split the list into say 30 - 50 pages each. Would take about 10 minutes and then compiling the lists together
22:40
@TylerH automation...!!!
I saved the list of actual users in (mostly correct) order as well in case that's useful to someone...
@TylerH that sounds overly complex. Just bucket by 100's and see if there's a peak around 1000-1100.
@DanielWiddis bucket by 100s... how do you propose we get the numbers for each user? :-)
@bad_coder keep in mind, that is 85 +/-10 since Dec 1 2015. It does not include any before then, but the overall total is at least 8 more since there are 8 users on the top 20 list that did not get the badge after NoNaMe
I don't know when the H&I queue entered into existence, but if it was not too long before then, then it wouldn't be hard for you to peruse the pages from that date up to page 142/143 (around when Dec 1 2015 occurred, currently)
didn't you just scrape? Aren't they already sorted?
You can skip all the non-interesting stuff.
@DanielWiddis I gathered the names and they are mostly sorted (I may have mixed them up), but I did not and could not gather the number of reviews each person has done
22:46
oh, I thought that was there
nope, the badge awarding page doesn't say how many reviews total they've done of a given type, only when they got it and for what queue
Because I do have the names, you could go into each user's profile and then scrape through all their reviews on their profile page but... I don't have time for that
not even for a single user
It would be much better if they just added a userID to review items in SEDE
@TylerH Apparently H&I was introduced on 30/4/2015
well that makes it pretty easy
30/4/2015 is on page 170 currently of the Steward Badge awards page
so that's only 27 pages for you to go through
:-) happy hunting
@TylerH ok 27...
85 + however many you find, which will be at least 8, probably not more than twice that much
I'd be surprised if it's 100 or more total
22:55
@TylerH On page 171 there's a user who got it on 24/4/2015. Which is strange, since it's a week before the queue was announced. But also, supposing you're limited to 20 reviews/day it would take him nearly 2 months (or 25 days if doing 40/day) to get the badge...
@TylerH well, I'll scrape it eventually...Best to do the whole list with a good script than to guess.
@TylerH Ok, confirmed the first user got it on that date. He states it himself in his profile.
@rene can you confirm this query is correct? Linked by the above mentioned user.
@Vega amazing performance 2020-07-04 06:25:31
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@TylerH @bad_coder There are only 4670 pages in the full review history. Without too much difficulty, you could modify rene's find reviews userscript to just scrape all of the review history pages and count the number of reviews for each user. After you're done, you'll have a complete count.
If you only read 1 page every 5 seconds, which should be slow enough to not get you rate limited, even if you continue normal usage in other tabs, it should only take about 6.5 hours to read all of the pages.
@Makyen at 72 lines this should be easy to do. Thanks Makyen and Rene :)
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I'd like to verify that the user gets notified when I leave a comment on a deleted post. Does anyone have a deleted question or answer, preferably with no other comments or comments by multiple other users (so no other user gets notified), which they wouldn't mind me adding a comment to and telling me if they get a normal inbox notification?
If you're not sure, you can use this link to view your own deleted posts
23:57
@Machavity Wow, 716 documents are returned, answers, some of them highly up-voted
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