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8:55 AM
If a user keeps posting the exact same comment across many different questions, should these comments be flagged for cleanup? In this case there are at least 40+ such comments.
 
What kind of comment? Is it useful?
 
@JeanneDark It is about security vulnerability.
 
What's problematic about these comments? What would be the reason to flag them?
 
9:10 AM
There are scripts that help people post the same comment over and over again, and even repositories on meta for people to share their favorite comments to post. It's just that widespread.
In fact, I'm now wondering if there's a canned comment to reply to people who don't like canned comments
 
@JeanneDark The comment targets particular software which is quite popular for which the author of the comment has implemented an alternative which apparently does not have this vulnerability.
 
If it's self-promotion, it might be worth a mod flag
 
9:30 AM
@JohnDvorak sounds like fun
@MarioGalic if the comment is there to point out a problem in an answer, then that is fine. If the comment also offers an alternative then they better write an answer. If the comment promotes only their library / software as alternative then I agree with @JohnDvorak and it might be overt self-promotion. A mod flag is best to have an impartial party make the judgement call.
 
9:47 AM
 
 
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11:19 AM
Do 1 reputation users see "edit" or "improve this question" on their Question?
 
@Scratte I have to ask my sock, hold on 1 min ;)
I am pretty sure they do :)
 
I didn't create one since people keep telling me I don't need to and shouldn't and... and.. and.. :D
 
:D
 
11:36 AM
I just assumed you meant that it's name is "edit" :) Someone asked me to "help me with this" so I'm naturally assuming they want to know how to improve their Question ;)
 
12:11 PM
@Scratte "Halp me plz every1!!!" ----> halfer quietly trims begging
 
@halfer It's worse. I had explained to them to edit an error into their Question, explicitly told them to not put it in a comment. Then they added another error in comments :D ..and asked me for help.
But since I'm such a nice(?!?) person, I of course took a screen shot of their Question, and added a red arrow to a freehand red circle around the edit link/button :)
 
12:29 PM
@Scratte Wow!
 
@Scratte that's what the [edit] magic link is for...
 
@AndrasDeak Ahhh Sunday, imagine you in the Bahamas on a secret mission catching sun on the beach :D
 
@AndrasDeak That would have been too easy :)
 
@Vickel if I may ask, how does a Portuguese guy get a "ck" syllable in his name?
 
@bad_coder it's my nick
 
12:43 PM
@bad_coder I am more surprised that your name is Bad Coder
 
@Vickel I thought there was a relation with your real name, or perhaps some foreign influence to the choice of your nick. Seems more Germanic than English.
@Braiam Por quê? [Why?]
 
you are a good detective @bad_coder
 
I just saw "and stick to java naming conventions!" on a comment on a post. Can we close Question because the asker isn't compliant with naming convenstion?
 
@Scratte Andras Deak is going on a secret mission to the Bahamas, perhaps it's best you go with him just in case he doesn't find his way around. And remember, your local contact will be Braiam, you'll be lost without him there.
 
@bad_coder I don't expect anyone names to be the same as their nicknames :)
 
12:46 PM
@bad_coder Isn't the Bahamas part of the US?
 
@bad_coder Bahamas are very far from me, at least 1 hour charter flight.
 
@Scratte It's funnier than saying Caribbean.
@Braiam Charter flight, you treat yourself right Braiam, the man travels in luxurious fashion. Andras Deak will be impressed by your living standards.
 
@Scratte No, but it's legitimate to inform the OP (politely) that they're more likely to get an answer if other people can actually understand their code
 
@Vickel mmmm, we have to go to that restaurant in Austria.
 
@bad_coder charter flight, isn't that were everone claps hands when landing?
 
12:49 PM
@Vickel heh, I don't know...Do they clap hands? Is there some pun I'm missing?
 
Is there any way this useful (closed) question can be migrated to Super User? I don't know if we have a migration process any more: stackoverflow.com/questions/14395149/…
 
@bad_coder I meant that there's no direct flights to Nasau (what people often means when they go to the Bahamas)
 
@halfer No, it's too late
 
@bad_coder some aspects of the psychology behind that behavior: mic.com/articles/180047/heres-why-people-clap-when-planes-land
@bad_coder can't leave Portugal, 14 days quarantine if traveling to AT. :(
 
@Vickel So, you can leave.
 
12:54 PM
Would a gas mask be an allowed alternative to quarantine?
 
@Vickel I've seen some people scared when they're flying, especially when whole families are traveling together. But I can't honestly recall anyone clapping.
@Vickel Chose a Lisabon restaurant.
 
Gas mask usually prevents things from going in @John, in the current situation we don't want things to go out :)
 
Galaxy brain solution: connect the gas mask backwards.
 
True. Why doesn't a face mask suffice as a replacement for quarantine then? Sneezed-on hands and such?
 
@Braiam It's a good thing we have you to educate us on these matters, and especially Andras on his secret mission.
 
12:56 PM
@bad_coder maybe you never were on a charter flight (to Ibiza or Canary Islands), it also happens on regular flights, if a certain seat contingent was given away to charter clients
 
@RyanM I wanted to remove it.. but there's more in the comment :(
 
@Vickel Reminds me of Frank Rijkaard
 
@JohnDvorak Because everyone would want one, but they are better left for health personnel.
 
home-made one, I mean
 
@bad_coder but that's Paulo Futre :)
 
1:03 PM
Oh, those, well, doing it right is kind of a chore: you need at least 2 types of material, and they must be a tight fit.
Otherwise the vapor you exhale when you breath would go out.
Also, people seems to be very bad wearing masks
 
@Braiam I used to wear a gas mask when laminating my surfboards, it's a nightmare
 
@Braiam The paparazzi just released some tease footage of @AndrasDeak in the Bahamas
The new Deacon
 
@bad_coder I have the same comment that the top comment on that video.
 
Right; allow people to skip quarantine when they wear a face mask, and they'll wear it around the neck.
... or one with a blatant cut out to breathe through
 
@Braiam This one is the best comment "Job Interviewer: Where do you see yourself in 10 years? "
 
1:30 PM
@eyllanesc Why is this question closed? Why does it need to be deleted?
 
@Dharman +1, I'd vote to reopen that if it isn't a dupe
It seems like a perfectly fine how-to question, with a good answer.
(I voted to reopen it, @ping me if it's a dupe and I'll retract)
 
No need
 
I voted to reopen too
 
you also can't retract reopen votes; can you?
 
@AndrasDeak Afaik, the ui doesn't allow you to.
 
1:36 PM
Reopen and delete votes are not retractable
 
@AndrasDeak ...huh, apparently you can't. That's kind of silly.
It just asks if you want to vote to reopen again
 
It seems, there is a status-review meta.stackexchange.com/q/193061/704698
 
I would still like to understand what was the reason for the deletion of that question. It was definitely not needing any more focus.
 
@Dharman Did it lack code?
 
@Scratte That was not a debugging question
 
1:40 PM
It was "How can I multiply a number by 2 and add 5?" when the internet and SO is chock full of "multiply a number by 2" and "add 5 to a number". It was also unclear: did they want to round or want to truncate? It was hard to tell from the two lines of text that the asker graced us with.
 
The question has now been reopened ... but remains deleted. Hmm.
 
@Dharman I didn't ask if it was :)
 
It was a no-effort question of basic dupes, with some lack of clarity.
 
@Vega Thanks. I was wondering if there is some manual thing that mods could do, since it's valuable (non-programming) content. No matter.
 
It wasn't asking how to round a number, it was asking how to type cast it.
 
1:41 PM
There's no type cast in python. Unclear.
 
If you are debating what was asking, probably it was unclear :)
 
 
For me, who has limited Python experience, that was a perfectly valid question, one which I could see myself Googling at some point in time.
 
It keeps going around that How-to Questions lack effort if it doesn't contain code. I really think we can't be saying it enough: ONLY debug Questions NEED code!
 
@halfer I believe CMs can, but moderators cannot migrate a question that old.
 
1:42 PM
@Dharman yes, and you'd find an answer in 2 minutes. We don't have to have that question here to make the world a better place.
If I had to I could find three duplicates in a short amount of time
I didn't have to because it was closed with another reason
not sure about the first delvoter but eyllanesc and myself are quite familiar with the python tag
 
@AndrasDeak I've searched on Google with a few permutations of that question and I'm unable to find anything relevant
 
I'm sorry to hear that
 
In a quick Google search I can't find such a simple explanation... Maybe I don't know what exactly to search but that deleted question seemed pretty useful to me.
 
@Dharman And there is at least one good answer, possibly two.
 
1:47 PM
@AndrasDeak When people that are not comfortable and familiar with a language cannot find anything, it's a sigh that something can be done to help them.. with a good signpost.
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It's surely then at least a useful signpost
 
^ I would ask a mod to close it as a duplicate instead of deleting it.
 
There's a voting system for a reason; you are all welcome to undelvote if you disagree.
 
I saw that the post was not harmful, and on contrary it was quite useful, despite being possibly a duplicate
 
Hopefully we can cherry-pick a collection of excellent helpdesk questions to display
 
1:48 PM
Well...I'm not yet able to do so :-)
 
@RyanM Such a shame you didn't take my offer to merge our accounts, huh? :)
 
I am considering an undelete vote (and even an [undel-pls] - if such a thing exists) but my concern is for the OP: Seven downvotes is a big hit on such a low-rep user.
 
I didn't downvote, guess I should have done that too
by the way that speed comparison in the excellent answer is entirely pointless
 
Questions which in my opinion deserve deletions are ones like this. stackoverflow.com/q/63547463/1839439
 
false dichotomy
 
1:51 PM
Poor title, insufficient explanation of the problem, low quality answers... and so on
 
@Dharman And unclear SQL-Questions where Answers starts with "Perhaps this is what you want.."
 
Yeah, even if the question was a bit unclear (arguable, as it had sample output), it had a quality answer. When there's so much utter crap, why delete things that have at least some redeeming value?
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@AndrasDeak I disagree with that. Delete harmful and completely useless posts. Keep the clear ones that just misunderstand how things work.
 
@Vega Ooh, good find. I might raise a flag to see if it can be pushed to CMs - no harm in trying.
@RyanM Nice one, I might try that route.
 
@halfer Nothing ventured, nothing gained ;)
 
2:04 PM
@halfer I should probably disclaim that the poster of that answer has also noted that custom-flag requests to migrate old questions "are never escalated to CMs"
A meta post on the target site might be convincing enough...
 
> Those who voyage are not saved. [...] Those who, instead of voyaging, cast themselves into the sea, take a risk. [...] Those who voyage and take no risk shall perish. [...] In taking the risk there is a part of salvation.
 
Actually, I have a post or three that would be good for Android.SE (e.g., Adding a second dictionary to the spell-check in Android 4.3?) ...might make a meta post for them at some point. They might just be dupes there though. I'd have to check that first.
 
@RyanM looks like an X/Y attempt to answer
 
2:19 PM
@RyanM mods can't even migrate questions older than 60 (or was it 90?) days though.
and I don't think the CM team will entertain such request to migrate old questions
... yeah, basically what that MSO post says :x
 
Yeah, there are a couple (that's not the best example...just one I could find quickly) where it might be worth trying to get CM attention
Obviously I'd defer to you as an Android.SE mod on if you think they're even valuable for that site :-)
 
@RyanM Ah, righto. Thanks. Deletion it is!
 
Does this question need details or clarity or is it fine (except for the formatting)? To me it looks a bit unclear.
What SD reports above is NAA
 
@halfer ehhhhhhh. I think old, good-but-off-topic stuff has value. It's important to close so that people know it's off-topic and don't ask more of it, but not sure it's doing any harm by staying.
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2:35 PM
@RyanM In general I agree with edge-case stuff, but I can't on this one. Happy to hear the general views of the room though - if there is sufficient objection here I will ask a RO to zap it :-)
 
Is "sufficient" sufficiently objective when used as a measure of "objection?"
 
I'll certainly agree it's not an edge case for whether it belongs on SO: it's very clearly general computing :-)
It seems lots of people have found it useful, though
 
 
4:21 PM
Will the user loose tag score if the question tags are edited (rolled back)?
 
4:39 PM
@Vega Yes, I think so. I believe the tag score is calculated on intervals. But I'm not sure about it.
 
Thank you @Scratte :) I was hoping that
 
But.. it's easy to test, no? Next time you see a post with an answer and you want to edit the tags, you can try to see what happens to the user that posted the answer (providing they do not answer other Questions in the interim of your edit and the calculation)
 
It is late to check the count. Also I wasn't expecting that I will need to so didn't look first
 
@Vega You mean to say you will never edit another tag out of a Question again? :)
 
I needed the answer now :(
 
4:46 PM
Oh. Sorry.. I'm not sure about it :(
 
@Vega Why aren't tag scores updated in real time? says that it's calculated one per day and Will tag score of all answerers be re-calculated after re-tagging question? says removing tags effect the tag score :) Lets hope that last 8 years old post still holds :)
 
@Scratte Oh, great! Thank you so much :)
 
There's also What are tag badges? How do they work? if you want to dive into ways of losing a tag bagde :)
 
5:02 PM
@Scratte It's always a good idea to (re-)read the 'manual', thanks again :)
 
You're welcome :) I like it when I'm sure instead of knowing that I'm not sure :)
 
@Scratte My experience is that there's a periodic full recalculation, but that some changes, particularly adding/removing tags, will result, usually, in a near-immediate recalculation of the tag score for the users with answers on the tag-edited question to include/exclude the answer from their tag scores.
It's possible that it's only periodic (or that such edits put it the user in a pool which gets recalculated more frequently) and that all my checks happened after a periodic recalc, or that something else I did triggered it. However, overall, my experience is that question tag changes reflect the addition/removal of the tag score for the answers relatively quickly.
 
5:27 PM
And.... out of close votes for the day. In other news, the burnination Close queue might be of interest to some here.
 
@Makyen Thanks. I do remember my tag score on meta changing only in intervals. And I'm pretty sure I had a score on "featured" that vanished when the post wasn't featured anymore :)
@DanielWiddis Are close and reopen votes in the same pool of 50 votes?
 
@Scratte Nope. I've exhausted my CV's and still gone on a reopening spree in the reopen queue. (As in, reviewed 20, opened one or two.)
 
@DanielWiddis How many of those do you have?
I'm looking at a post that is claiming the code isn't working the way they want it to. Which is fine. But!.. it's an entire program. Should that be closed?
 
Left? Probably 50. I don't use them often.
 
@DanielWiddis Oh.. I know of some posts that may need some :D
 
5:36 PM
Well, there's .
 
Hmm.. getting 50 reopen votes does sound very useful to me :) It's almost an incentive.
@Scratte The only close reason I can think of is "needs debugging details", but that doesn't sound right to me. There's lots of details.. :)
 
@Scratte Are you talking to yourself again?
 
I'm confused and sometimes that helps :)
 
@Scratte "No MCVE" then maybe (i. e. needs debugging details after all)?
 
@Scratte ..or perhaps "Needs more focus" as it's really a lot of code. 405 lines of python, including empty lines though.
@JeanneDark Yes, but I'm not even sure if we close those.
 
5:44 PM
@Scratte I see cv-pls requests giving the reason "no MCVE" or "missing MCVE" from time to time
 
@JeanneDark Due to too much code?
 
Too much code != minimal reproducible example
 
Right.. :) But I assume the message to the user isn't very good with picking "needs debugging details".
 
"The question should be updated to include desired behavior, a specific problem or error, and the shortest code necessary to reproduce the problem."
 
@JeanneDark Oh! Thanks :) ..oops! I picked the wrong reason :D
 
5:49 PM
Hmm, so I don't see an easy way to view my reopen votes left. The meta question on rate limits says "50 close/reopen votes/day/user" but I don't know if that's combined or each. I guess this is a good as any time to test. Let me hit the reopen queue...
First hit, reopen success, but it was an audit. So I don't think that counts. :)
 
@DanielWiddis There's currently 317 Questions in the queue. I'd estimate 15% is good to be reopened :) You should count your votes
@DanielWiddis Yes, they don't take any votes from you.
 
Just successfully reopened a question from the queue, with zero CV votes left.
 
@DanielWiddis zero being possibly 50 left :)
 
I meant, "50 close/reopen" votes does not mean close + reopen. It probably means each. And since it's highly unlikely I'll ever reopen-vote 50 questions in a day, it's essentially as unlimited as scratte-hats.
 
Regarding my last cv-pls: with "again bringing up..." I meant I brought up another question because of possibly problematic links, not a question I had already brought up.
 
5:58 PM
@JeanneDark Do you know how to talk to yourself in chat?
 
@Scratte No, I don't. I can't link to my posts
 
@DanielWiddis Yep! 50 of each.
 
@AdrianMole Yep, I'd figured that out. And 50 reopen is is essentially as unlimited as Scratte's hats :)
 
^ Heh. {Note cryptic use of the hat operator}
 
I see what you did there. Maybe we should give it a rest.
 
6:05 PM
@JeanneDark One way is to use one of Makyen users scripts. We'd have to bug Makyen to pull it out into it's own script though, as I believe it's currently part of a much bigger one. The other way (which I use) is to just copy the link by right clicking the little arrow on the left side and take the id of the message from it adding a : in the begging of it :)
 
@Scratte I think that's a waste of time, as the link still isn't clickable like other message-reply links.
 
@AdrianMole Like this? {experiments with self-chat}
 
@DanielWiddis The link doesn't need to be clickable. I paste it after right-clicking the arrow and picking "Copy link address" directly into the message textbox, remove everything except for the id after the # and add the : in the beginning. I do remember to leave a space between the :5028XXXX and my message to myself.
 
@Scratte That's quite optimistic. In 2019, only 3% of closed questions were reopened.
 
@Makyen I am a very optimistic person. I also hope that things improve :)
 
6:11 PM
@DanielWiddis Yeah, it takes a little more work to make it clickable.
 
But.. if I were to bug Makyen about anything, I think it would need to be the little blue box around the number of my remaining flags :)
 
@Scratte But Makyen has a much bigger blue box surrounding the "number of remaining flags."
 
Because this isn't cute. But that really is <-- link to my own meta post, btw.
 
@AdrianMole Actually, that number doesn't exist in the moderator close-dialog. I had to make adjustments to account for that. :)
 
I thought you had a blue box on the top-bar (in the moderator interface) indicating how big the flag queue is. That info was once posted somewhere by somebody.
 
6:18 PM
@Makyen Huh?.. you have a cute little clue box, but because you have unlimted flags, you've used some random generator for the number in the box?
 
@Scratte Is it random or the max 2-digit decimal?
 
@AdrianMole Ahh.. I thought you meant in the close-dialog. But, yes, the number of remaining posts with flags (which is always < = the # remaining flags) is displayed in the topbar with white text and a blue background.
 
@AdrianMole It was posted in an Answer to 2020 Community Moderator Election Results
 
@Scratte So, I was correct. That is "somewhere" and Undo is "somebody" - is not?
 
@DanielWiddis A two digit decimal is not the max for flags ;)
@AdrianMole Yes. Your memory did not deceive you. Mine is apparently indexed for optimal retrieval ;)
 
6:25 PM
But, in actual fact, I was thinking of somewhere else and somebody else: Bhargav once posted a picture of that box in SOBotics ... when the number was 1.
 
@Scratte Nah. The close-dialog HTML is somewhat different for moderators. Not by much, but it was enough to throw off that part of the script. The way I've implemented it is, unfortunately, not very robust. OTOH, it's at best difficult to have it be robust, given that SE doesn't use semantic CSS classes, so even if I were to do it in a better way, it really wouldn't be all that more robust, given that it would still be very heavily dependent on the HTML structure.
 
@AdrianMole Was it the same box?
 
@AdrianMole It's hard to get a picture of it at 0, because if it's zero, then it's not displayed. :)
 
@Scratte Only if all mods (or, at least, those two) share the same top-bar. :-)
 
@Makyen But I imagine that you kept all revisions in github and if you have time, you can still fiddle with it on your mini-sock :)
 
6:27 PM
@Makyen Probably not at zero that often, though?
 
@Scratte Yeah, I keep it in a git repo. Not necessarily all revisions, but a somewhat reasonable number, and yes, it is synced to GitHub.
 
7:04 PM
@Makyen pls delete this request (dead link): chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/50284088#50284088
 
7:45 PM
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Q: Is this a bad [code-design]?

Daniel WiddisI recently stumbled on a question with the code-design tag. I thought it was off-topic. A brief scan of the 159 questions with this tag reveals a majority of opinion-based questions (in my opinion, of course.) Can I ask design-related questions on Stack Overflow? says the answer is: In general...

 
@desertnaut Unfortunately, I was doing other things and didn't get to this until after it was closed.
 
8:17 PM
@Scratte Thank you! Another idea would be to copy the link from the transcript. I probably won't need it so often.
 
@JeanneDark Yes, but it's the same link :)
 
I can't believe it. The LQP is empty.
 
@Dharman If you're looking for stuff to flag or close, then Late Answers and First Posts still have a good number entries. ;)
 
@AdrianMole I am flagging sock-puppets today, but thanks.
 
8:28 PM
@Dharman Is that a new Review Queue? (Available only to those with 5,000+ helpful flags.)
 
It's a review queue you have to make yourself. 😁
 
8:42 PM
Could I get some eyes to reopen stackoverflow.com/questions/40608220/… ? I have a much better answer but it's a false duplicate.
 
@o11c Which duplicate would you suggest?
The duplicate looks 100% correct to me
 
I've searched high and low and can't find any duplicate
base 10 != base 2
 
@o11c my math may be a bit rusty but you've edited the question in a way that seems to be different than what it is asking
 
Yeah, but removing trailiing zeroes from a numerical string doesn't depend on the base
 
power of 2 is not the same as base 2
 
8:45 PM
it does if you aren't using a string
the one I linked should return 3 if the input is 8
 
"So my question can be reduced to counting the number of trailing zeros in a string."
 
(and OP was quite clear about that, someone already tried to reopen it but it timed out)
 
OP has accepted a solution which is an exact duplicate of the one linked
I see no reason to reopen it
 
but OP did not seem happy in comments below that answer
you can't assume people know how to use the site
 
and again, finding highest power of 2 with no remainder is not the same thing as base 2 insofar as I understand it
 
8:47 PM
or should I post a new question, hoping Google finds it, that is exactly the same as OP's question but expects different answers?
one question wants trailing_zeros(20) == 2, the other wants trailing_zeros(20) == 1
 
base 2 is binary if I'm not mistaken
 
@o11c Yeah, if you want different answers then I would post a new question, but make sure that there are no duplicates already. I can see it likely to be closed as a duplicate of already existing question
 
I searched pretty hard and this was the only one I found
but it really sucks that the answers are wrong and we've decided to close it on that basis
 
the answers only appear wrong now that you've edited the question to ask something else
if I knew Python enough to feel comfortable I would normally roll such an edit back
 
Uh, did you look at my edit? I literally only moved some content from the body to the title
 
8:52 PM
@TylerH o11c only added two words in the title, does it really change so much?
 
Your edit added something to the title that wasn't mentioned in the body (nor was it removed from the body)
 
@o11c There is no mention of either "base 2" or "binary" in the original question.
 
There absolutely is "binary" in the question I'm talking about
not in the one it's marked as duplicate of
 
You're right, I missed "binary" in the sentence "binary representation of"
 
^ +1
 
8:56 PM
I found a couple of solutions for C/C++ (which should be duplicates of each other) but those use fixed-length integers and the approach is quite different, so the Python one shouldn't interact with them
 
{biscuits dunked in strong coffee}
 
@AdrianMole That was OP
 
@Dharman OK - I'm getting all muddled up with the edit history.
Question is now open again.
 
FWIW I don't agree with reopening, but I assume you 3 know what you are doing.
 
I was convinced by the arguments presented in here.
 
9:29 PM
@Dharman I don't know what I'm doing most of the time :D
 
@Makyen no worries; you can now delete my delete request :) chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/50284165#50284165
 
Is it a 'new' thing (since the move to CommonMark) that markdown formatting (bold, inline code-ticks, etc.) doesn't work in a post at any point after a <hr>? Or was it always the way but I just never noticed before?
 
@AdrianMole That doesn't sound right.
 
Try it and see! Also, links don't format after the <hr>.
 
10:09 PM
@Braiam Check my latest post. Without the horizontal row, all is cool. (I'll revert soon, or you can, if you like.)
 
the code block works if you add an extra newline before the code block
an extra newline after the <hr> fixes everything
looks like a bug (edit: ...but maybe not)
 
@RyanM Well-spotted! I fixed it in that post, but is it a bug?
 
well...maybe
 
I'm no HTML or MarkDown expert.
 
I bet it thinks that that's opening an HTML-formatted block, and so it's ignoring the Markdown formatting directives until it sees an extra newline to say that's all done
 
10:13 PM
Also, should the <hr> tag maybe be <hr/> ? (Or is that a capital offence?)
 
HTML5, at least, has no concept of self-closed tags. It's allowed for compatibility with XHTML, but has no special meaning. What that means for the implementation of the Markdown parser, though, I have no idea :-)
 
@RyanM I tried with the self-closing format but it still needs the newline.
 
@AdrianMole The 3rd revision looks ok on the reference site.
 
@Braiam That reference site also needs the newline after <hr> though!
 
@AdrianMole Eh? I literally copy-n-pasted the source of your 3rd revision, it doesn't have a new line after the hr tag.
Ok, it seems that the implementation adds newlines for me :(
 
10:23 PM
 
Or my browser does.
 
how "helpful" of it
 
user12867493
10:36 PM
@AdrianMole That should be reported to Smokey
 
It has been.
 
user12867493
By me, only because I decided to come into the room
 
{shrugs}
 
user12867493
@AdrianMole Not constructive
 
According to Charcoal HQ, it was reported by somebody called Adrian Mike.
 
user12867493
10:42 PM
@AdrianMole Also not constructive, it was clearly a typo which I already corrected before your message
 
Although I do try to help out with the SD project whenever I can, I don't feel that I am ever obliged to report such posts (though I often do). My 'civic duty' (for want of a better term) as an active member of SO, however, does require that I at least flag such posts. Asking in here for others to do the same is an 'optional extension' to that civic duty.
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user12867493
@AdrianMole I never said you were obliged
 
11:41 PM
@Georgy ha, I just realized that your name is not "Georgie" (the way I've read it) but rather Георгий (or close enough)
 
@Daniil I intend this message to be friendly feedback. Unless there's something I am missing, your remarks to Adrian seem a little sharp. We try to keep the tone in here easy-going where we can.
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