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4:00 PM
@AndrewT. AFAIK, US do support them, but the outside resources have cors headers that allow them to
 
I think API support CORS not US :D . Scrap things from SE is not allowed.
 
@AndrewT. when a userscript makes a request, it should be recorded as if coming from the page you're currently on. So, as far as I'm aware, if you have the server's CORS policy allow that domain, it work
 
@AndrewT. Userscripts can make requests that appear to be coming from another domain, and thus get around CORS issues, by using the userscript API GM_xmlhttpRequest or GM.xmlHttpRequest (depending on which userscript manager you're running in). For userscripts, requests made by the "normal" AJAX methods will appear to be coming from the page's domain.
 
I post wrong answer?
 
I see now, thanks :)
 
4:08 PM
@Shree I don't think what you said was wrong, just not comprehensive/complete.
 
Thanks. I unable to express like you :)
 
@Shree np. Thanks. I think you do a good job at communicating.
 
Thanks.
@AndrewT. Thanks every where. I try to learn with Makyen . You gives me opportunity . Again you get thanks.
 
4:55 PM
I cannot really make sense of that
 
@rene Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that one.
 
@janw It seemed to have stopped mid sentence.
 
@janw for a question about JavaScript, uh...
 
@janw I flagged NAA
My reasoning is sort of like, "Is the sky blue?" "The sky is a collection of gases and small particles. The ocean is blue."
 
Yeah, it does not really contain useful information
I also flagged NAA, thanks for the guidance :)
 
5:06 PM
@IanCampbell What would have been similar if they had mentioned JavaScript (your sky) :)
 
@Makyen I've created some pretty useless userscripts in the last 6 to 8 years .... you might like this one as well to get an ping when something closeable gets posted ...
 
@rene It pings you constantly? ;)
 
@rene Thanks. That looks useful. :)
 
:D
 
Am I wrong about this one? stackoverflow.com/a/62997841
 
5:16 PM
@IanCampbell I would say it meets the NAA criteria
^^ I don't think it's luncheon meat, but it's depressing
 
@JeanneDark Thanks for the feedback
 
@IanCampbell No, and maybe. I see the link as very useful, but they made arguments in a comment that should have been in the answer.
 
@IanCampbell I can see the point of the OP but without the link it is useless. At a minumum they should answer the question. That is: include the options for S3 in the answer. the rest can be linked
 
It's hard, because the author is like, "well, just fix it then". But I'm not a SME, and it's not a great question to start with. But I don't need to be a SME to identify a link only answer in LQP.
 
yeah, true that
 
5:26 PM
@IanCampbell I would recommend to ignore an move on. If they don't agree then they can take it up with mods. I think the LQP will delete it.
 
Yeah, I'm not saying anything else. Thanks
 
@IanCampbell I mean, if what OP needs is read the documentation and they do, we could cut the number of new questions to a 99.9% less than what we get now.
 
@AdrianMole I checked, it seems like upvotes in First Posts audits indeed do not count
 
5:41 PM
I have read and understood the rules
 
5:56 PM
@AnkitMishra thanks.
 
I flagged this as off-topic but it might even be spam.
 
@JeanneDark Without something more concrete, it could just be a confused new user
 
@Machavity I didn't dare to click that link but wanted to let you know
 
@JeanneDark Closure is the correct path here. And I've slid a delete vote in for good measure
 
it's gone Bob
 
6:03 PM
Go team RO
 
:)
 
@Dharman this is a late reply, but I suspect this message was intended to be directed to @bad_coder rather than Marco (as it addresses why that answer was problematic before Ian's edit and was not, in fact, in compliance with policy)
 
^ Yep, the conversation got a bit confusing there.
 
@JeanneDark As Machavity said, it's most likely a confused user. However, there are some spam campaigns which look like that. So, I've also added the domain to what SmokeDetector watches for. It's also possible that the confused user will try to repost similar questions, which, while not spam, per se, have a similar effect as spam and, when repeated, can rise to the point of being abusive of the system. But, in general, it's good to give such questions the benefit of doubt and assume good faith.
 
6:12 PM
I assume Questions asking if a company will support a product in the future is off-topic. But as what?
 
@Scratte Opinion based. We cannot figure out the future.
 
@Scratte I usually give a custom reason (so, Blatantly Off Topic for you)
also, fun, disappointing, and/or aggravating fact... close vote reviewers can't actually see which "Not suitable for this site" option flaggers pick (which is aggravating as a reviewer, too)
 
@RyanM Oops.. "'t" is so hard to notice :D
 
so if a flagger flags something as a typo, I have to notice on my own that it's a typo unless they comment
waffle
 
Sorry.. I guess I caused serial waffling :)
 
6:19 PM
is that better or worse than cereal waffling?
it sounds worse.
 
@RyanM Thanks. I so missed that opportunity :)
 
@NathanOliver Exactly! I forgot that existed, I could only think of Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
 
6:24 PM
@NathanOliver That doesn't look or sound like breakfast.. it's more like a sweet :)
 
@Scratte see also: Cookie Crisp, Ore-O's, Cocoa Puffs
and of course Pop Tarts
 
@MarcoBonelli if you genuinely think it's spam, don't bother voting to close, just flag it as spam
(re: SD report question)
 
@RyanM makes sense... wasted CV
 
@Scratte you...must not be very familiar with American breakfast foods...
@MarcoBonelli exactly. Plus, 6 spam or R/A flags will delete it and get it off the site.
 
@RyanM I am.. it's just wrong to treat one's own body like that :)
 
6:28 PM
:D
 
@RyanM huh, I did not know that. Is that automated?
 
@MarcoBonelli Yep, the Community user deletes the question when it receives 6 red flags from normal users, or 1 red flag from a moderator
 
@MarcoBonelli 6 spam flags and it gets nuked by Community. Do not edit. Do not close. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.
3
 
Good to know. This now makes me wonder why would a mod flag it rather than just delete it if the outcome is the same?
 
@NobodyNada That's just sad. Ore-O's for breakfast :( What is so wrong with real fruit? :)
 
6:31 PM
@MarcoBonelli the outcome is slightly different. The Community user deletes it, rather than the mod (the deletion is anonymous), it applies a 100-rep penalty against the account, feeds it into the spam detection system for training, and hides the post's content from 10k users.
the feeding-into-spam-detection-system part doesn't occur if it's flagged as rude/abusive rather than spam, I think...
 
@RyanM I think it also works like that if a moderator casts a spam flag prior to deleting it. Triple-ping ;)
 
@Scratte but if the mod casts a flag it's auto deleted :')
 
@Scratte A moderator can't cast a spam flag and delete it. It is deleted by Community as a result of a moderator casting a spam flag.
 
@Scratte The only cereal which contained the truth in its name had to change it for that reason
 
To clarify: that only happens if it gets the 6 red flags, or the 1 red flag from a moderator
 
6:34 PM
@RyanM Oh.. I didn't know that. But I'll probably remember it even if I will ultimately never used that information :D
 
If the mod simply deletes it and doesn't dispute or decline, the flags are automatically marked helpful
 
@Machavity They could also maybe have added just a little bit more sugar and successfully killed any germ in there :D
 
6:55 PM
@Vickel If you feel there is sock puppetry, please raise a moderator flag. We don't allow discussion of specific user activity in the channel. Thanks
 
@Machavity I was just about to ask you exactly that, I'll remember.
 
7:18 PM
Would this be a Question for SuperUser?
 
@Scratte looks like a networking Q to me, so I went for SF.
 
@double-beep You were very fast :) I didn't even have time to flag it :)
 
7:36 PM
 
8:23 PM
@Dharman ok. Quick explanation is this: the H&I review queue automatically posts the edit summary as a comment. (That's by design, the reviewer doesn't get a choice in it.)
 
@bad_coder Ok, but did you type it in? I just did a review and no comment for me: stackoverflow.com/review/helper/26729227
 
@Dharman ok. Thing is: you didn't write an edit summary. So, the post was edited without an edit summary (the system auto-generated a minimal "deleted 50 characters in body"), but that auto-generated summary doesn't get posted as a comment.
@Dharman If you try writing any edit summary, it will get posted as a comment automatically.
 
@bad_coder There is no input box for edit summary in the H&I queue. You can only leave a comment. The input box is not called Edit Summary.
 
@bad_coder Personally, I don't bother leaving an explanation. Usually, people think I am being paid to do it, which leads to more bother.
 
It says: "Explain why your edits have improved this question. Also suggest any additional changes needed, and explain why they would be useful. Always be polite."
 
8:33 PM
@Dharman Which is why I don't leave an explanation. I feel comments are for clarification or critique, not for explaining how you changed the post.
 
It's a terrible design, I know, but let's make the best of it. Let's leave a constructive comment explain how to ask a better question in the future. It's not improvement only review, it's help and improvement.
 
@Dharman That textbox serves a dual purpose...Now, the reason (and I read the meta posts about this) is: Your "edit summary" gets converted into "a comment" with the aim that you provide "pedagogical direction" to the OP, hopefully he'll notice the details of your edit, and the edit-summary/comment serves as an explanation.
 
@10Rep But can't you add it and then open up the post separately and remove your comment? So that the summary is kept on the edit?
 
For reference, I flag every one of those sorts of edit-summary-only comments that I see as No Longer Needed, and I've never had one of those flags declined. I don't flag the ones that also contain advice.
 
@Dharman What you are saying here, is a second aspect (and I frequently do provide additional direction as a comment). That you might give an additional comment pointing out what's wrong with the post.
@Dharman But at that point, you're placing quite a bunch of obligations on the H&I reviewer...
 
8:37 PM
@Scratte I believe it doesn't save as an edit summary. It only comments, so putting a comment and then removing it won't do anything.
 
@Dharman Those comments containing direction beyond the edit summary itself, are in fact the "Triage" and "First Post" reviewers job.
 
@bad_coder I agree that they do not belong as an edit summary
 
@Dharman But it doesn't stop there...All too frequently, the H&I reviewer ends up doing the job of 3 queues, and afterwards is supposed to come to SOCVR for proper action, and report the bad reviews on Samuel Liew's chat.
@Dharman and then the H&I reviewer has one more job...That is having to explain his actions to basically everyone he comes across!!!....
 
8:41 PM
I think it was added as comment to ensure that the author of the post reads it.
 
Now, does anybody actually understand what I tried to convey?? Or are they just going to disagree with my actions?
 
lol. Yeah, on a second though H&I is a silly place, let's not go there.
 
@bad_coder Which is I don't do H&I
 
I understand what you're trying to say, and I mostly am griping about the terrible UI that pushes you into doing it this way.
 
So many ping for Dharman. Namaste @bad_coder :)
 
8:43 PM
How should I describe my experience level with any skill?
 
@Shree Namaste :)
 
@Scratte don't substantial edits notify the author? They notify followers of a post, at least...
maybe it doesn't show the edit summary...
 
@RyanM Any edit will notify the author, but really.. the summary is in tiny-font and easy to miss.
 
@RyanM Why do they need to see the edit summary? They'll see their post changed, and that's enough, right?
 
I'll be around latter (notice the H&I reviewer just gave an extensive explanation. I really hope the SOCVR members appreciate the effort.)
 
8:46 PM
@Dharman good reference :)
 
@10Rep In some cases, it might provide an explanation of what they could improve in the future
 
@bad_coder We have regular(s?) with the steward badge in the queue :)
 
@RyanM Yea, but they can see what changed and learn from that, right?
@Scratte What is the steward badge?
 
My edit summary is usually "copy editing" since that's what I usually do...
I guess it's still better than "added 10 characters, removed tags" though~
 
@10Rep 1000 reviews in a queue.
 
8:49 PM
@Scratte Oh, it's that gold badge, right?
 
Now, final comment is in order: a good edit summary is warranted at times, the OP and the editors coming after you will find their overview made easier than just a generic "changed nn characters".
Also, the H&I review queue makes sense. It's supposed to be a place where posts go to be edited. A reviewer who doesn't have time/patience in the "Triage" and "First Posts" queues does his reviewing and remits the edit down stream...
So that does make sense.
A lot of the edits are made by reviewers in the first 2 queues, but that's optional.
 
@10Rep This is the Steward. It's under "Moderation Badges" in Badges
 
@Scratte Yeah, I found it. I'm 1/3 of the way there :)
 
@bad_coder Whenever you've got a moment at some point, could you send me a link to the meta posts? I'd like to understand the logic behind it a bit better.
 
Though sometimes I made an edit summary like "link to the specific timestamp on the YouTube video, fix formatting (MathJax is not suitable for timestamp), restructured the question body to make it more fluid" (which is somehow saved on Chrome for future autofill)
 
8:52 PM
And also: Thanks for doing H&I, it's tiresome work for sure.
 
@10Rep Summaries are always good to use. That's why we also use messages for git commits. And comments in code. It also gives a nicer overview in the timeline of a post.
 
The main problem, is twofold,
1- most of those posts are themselves by new users and some of the questions tend to be poor.
2- Triage reviewers who don't know their business should choose close reasons instead of "requires editing". If that were the case, the H&I queue would be much more relaxed.
 
@bad_coder Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what you do in the queue. My only problem is with comments like this where they are not needed. Instead of boiler plate comment, you could explain why you made that edit. e.g. "This is the correct capitalization for jQuery and Google Chrome"
 
@entithat Nop silver, gold with hammer, rep blaaa..... describe your skill level . Don't define your skill. They all are virtual points so no need to describe your skill any one. If want to participate follow site guidelines and you fill good .
 
@Scratte Yet I feel the Edit Summary shouldn't become a comment.
Just make it easier to see.
 
8:54 PM
I also have this edit summary saved on Chrome "removed fluff (thank the answerer later by accepting the answer if it's correct ;)"
 
@Dharman I'll tell you the truth, vast majority of my edit summaries are very detailed. In over 600 H&I edits I must have lost patience in maybe 40 or 50 edits and just wrote something succinct. (Mostly because I was being aggravated somewhere else, and this felt pointless...)
@Dharman In my edit history, you'll find those comments as "stylized tech names", "fixed acronyms" or "capitalized keywords" something like that.
 
@bad_coder It's ok not to say anything. You can leave this box empty most of the time. The main purpose of edit-summary is to explain to the author why you changed their post. If you don't feel like explaining you don't have to.
 
@10Rep For that you can either look at it as: The author may not see the summary, so therefore it's added. Or you find it useless, and then you can always manually remove it. I would expect removing it takes about 5 seconds. Compared to the time put into editing, that's not a lot of time.
 
I often edit posts and don't put any summary at all. I explain my edits when I think that it will prevent the author from rolling back, it is unclear why I made the edit, or I want to educate the new user why they should make such edits themselves in the future.
@ErikMD We can't delete posts which are not closed.
 
@Dharman That's exactly what I do. I also add an edit summary when I make a huge edit which may confuse the OP.
 
9:02 PM
@Dharman thanks for recalling this! so maybe I should just have used the tag:cv-pls for now
(even if for this kind of post - off-topic but already re-posted on another SE exchange - I guess it should anyway be deleted… afterwards)
 
@ErikMD If the question is good, then it would be migrated, not deleted.
 
@10Rep yes, but it happens in this case, the OP had already reposted it !
 
@ErikMD In which case you're correct :)
 
@10Rep also, this only happens if all three close voters pick the migration option. A single person picking a different reason results in a normal off-topic close
 
@RyanM Well, I don't have enough rep to close vote, but that question doesn't seem good enough to be migrated.
 
9:06 PM
(unless, obviously, one of the close voters is a moderator. then it does whatever the moderator says.)
@10Rep Yeah, it's not terrible but it needs a bit of work... I agree, I generally don't hit the migrate option.
It could use information on software versions, but otherwise it's fine (for SU, probably not SO), I think.
 
by the way could you very briefly recall if the "upvote/downvote count" (or the number of answers) play a role w.r.t. delete votes in a given question?
 
@RyanM According to @ErikMD, it's a dupe, so I'm betting even if it is migrated, it'll just get closed in SU.
 
@10Rep ah, sorry, I meant if they hadn't already reposted. Definitely agree we should never migrate anything that's already been reposted.
 
@RyanM Has the OP actually posted it in SU?
 
@ErikMD Feel free to repost this request when it's possible to act on it.
 
9:10 PM
OK thanks @Makyen
 
There should be something to prevent that from happening :)
 
@Makyen I think this is now OK. Can I move the message back from /dev/null? or should I just repost the request.
 
@ErikMD Only RO's can move it back from /dev/null. Just repost the request if you think it is okay.
What should I put for this? stackoverflow.com/review/triage/26732394
 
I'm not a SME, but seems like needs debugging details, no?
 
Never mind :) Strangely enough.. it came on an audit. I thought those didn't get rude ones.
 
9:20 PM
@Scratte The answer or the comment on the answer?
 
@IanCampbell Oh.. you clicked on it before I realized it was an audit :) The answer itself.
 
@Scratte don't edit before see .
 
@Shree Sorry.. :) It's there in the message history too I think.
 
@Scratte IIRC posts flagged as R/A are excluded from audits, but sometimes rude posts are deleted by spam flags or delete votes instead
 
I reckon it wasn't deleted as rude then. Is it visible, or is it hidden behind an extra click?
 
9:24 PM
@Scratte I think that one's hard. I would have flagged it NAA and the comment NLN. But I can see R/A for both.
You have to view the revision history.
 
But I did get a: Congratulations! ...You passed. :D So at least, I didn't fail it.. heh
 
@ErikMD We can, and as you have done, you were also welcome to repost the request. However, I just don't see a reason to expend effort rushing it to delete the question. The question will be deleted by Roomba in 10 days, it's closed and unlikely to get the upvotes which would prevent it from being deleted by Roomba. The question doesn't appear to be causing any actual harm. It appears remotely possible the user will edit the question to make it on-topic.
Overall, it seems better to me to just let Roomba delete the question 10 days from now. If I was wanting to make sure that it did actually get deleted, I'd just set a revisit for 11 days from now and verify that it's deleted. If it wasn't deleted at that point, then I'd deal with the question as it was at that time (e.g. vote to delete and/or make a del-pls request here in SOCVR).
 
@Scratte Just out of curiosity, what did you do?
 
@IanCampbell NAA.. I was conflicted. But any flag would have passed me. Even commenting or downvoting would have passed me.
 
@10Rep Yes, though with somewhat worse formatting: superuser.com/questions/1569641/…
@Scratte Interesting, commenting on a Close audit just tells you it's an audit :-p
 
9:30 PM
@Makyen I really like that about you. You're always very fair with everyone.. I even voted for you 3 times :)
 
@Scratte Voted 3 times or voted first choice ? :D
 
Is there a way to find questions with identical titles in data.se?
 
@Shree Voted 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Apparently "everyone's doing it!" :D
 
@Dharman ON SOCVR It's rene things , play with data explorer. :)
 
It seems as though this answer links to a video a user made specifically to answer the question. They don't disclose their affiliation. Should I just edit it to include the affiliation?
 
9:37 PM
@Scratte You made me try. I can't do that
 
@Scratte Thanks. Although, once was probably sufficient. :) After all, there are, at least in my opinion, other good candidates, who would make good moderators too.
 
@Dharman yes, you can do a soundex even
 
@Dharman lol!.. Sorry :) I didn't expect that.
 
You can? That could be useful to find similar posts reposted by different accounts
I tried `SELECT p1.Id as [Post Link]
FROM Posts p1
INNER JOIN Posts p2 ON p1.Title=p2.Title
WHERE p1.PostTypeId = 1 AND p2.PostTypeId = 1` but it only crashed the processor
 
@IanCampbell an external link cannot be an answer so it is best to raise a flag indicating that it is not an answer.
 
9:42 PM
@eyllanesc Well, I already flagged it as VLQ to take care of the link only aspect. But I'm more interested in the potential spam aspect.
 
@Dharman Maybe you should add a date to that?
 
@IanCampbell If it's spam then don't edit it, just raise a flag
 
@IanCampbell I think Charcoal can help you watch it, but I don't see a reason why we should use spam flag over NAA
@IanCampbell Let's move it to Charcoal
 
Is that belongs to sede room . rene know better . :) ^^^
 
9:50 PM
@Dharman that will give you all questions. And [Post Link] will blow up when you have 40,000 results or so. Just give me a minute
 
^ I do not think this is spam
 
@Scratte Please see the discussion in Charcoal HQ
 
@Scratte It's undisclosed affiliation.
 
@IanCampbell Not everyone is looking there, and I see the post going down. I guess I was trying to ease up on the red flagging that I sense is going on.
Yup.. exactly what I predicted. I imagine the user would have edited the post if they had had the chance.
 
9:58 PM
@rene maybe do where p1.id < p2.id so that you don't get duplicate entries?
 
@rene Thank you so much. This is what I wanted, but I was not expecting 47k posts
 
@NobodyNada good call
 
^ NOT the same user
 
@NobodyNada that makes SQL server angry. The execution plan become inefficient and it doesn't complete in under 2 minutes
@Dharman you should cut that number in half as you have both {p1, p2} and {p2, p1} in the resultset.
 
@rene Also if both conditions are there?
 
10:05 PM
@Scratte It is a bit late here, feel free to fork and give it a try. I'm not sure what I'm missing
 
10:21 PM
I keep getting a "Execution Timeout Expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding." from sede. I think maybe sede just likes rene :)
 
@RyanM Found it in my bookmarks, this is the canonical post explaining H&I
 
@Dharman That's nice and fast :)
 
@bad_coder Thanks! It looks like there were suggested improvements that never materialized into implementations around how the UI could be improved.
 
10:39 PM
@RyanM The problem as a whole is a lot more complicated. Only after VLQ and H&I (and taking part in the SOCVR action) do I really feel I'm able to do Triage...
@RyanM a 500rep probably doesn't have a clear understanding of the close reasons.
@RyanM If you had only 10k's in the Triage queue H&I would only contain prime raw material...So the problem is the learning curve in the queues is mostly inverted.
 
@bad_coder I do not think so. I think one learns after starting to review.
 
@Scratte Having to choose close reasons up stream would be better understood by users if they had experience with the higher rep queues. That's fundamental, seeing the down stream effects of their up stream decisions.
 
hullo werld
 
@bad_coder huh? Are you saying that only Triage should be for 10K reputation point users?
 
10:54 PM
@bad_coder Seems to me there's a fundamental flaw in your logic: high-rep 'up-stream' would, I guess, inherently know about the 'down-stream' effects of their actions. (But not always, I agree.)
 
@Scratte that's a way of saying, it's too hard for someone in the first 3 queues to understand the consequences their decisions have.
@AdrianMole Tell me about it, I've dispateched quite a few 10k's to Bad SO reviews.
 
@bad_coder But moving the reputation point of when users start to review doesn't change that they need to learn how to do it.
 
@bad_coder So - what point are you trying to make?
 
@AdrianMole Perhaps I'd rather make no point at all, if it serves only as a pretext to being called into question. Let me revert that, what do you think? Please elaborate...Justify!!
 
@bad_coder The ability to be a good reviewer is entirely separate from reputation gained from answering questions. But we have to have some cut-off point! Personally, I think the current levels are about right.
... and please, don't take a disagreement as - in any way - an aggressive statement.
 
11:02 PM
@AdrianMole Tell us the truth...Are you back from the pub? :D
 
What does that matter? Is my point valid or not?
 
@AdrianMole Well is my point valid (which of them btw)? What does it matter if you've been down to the PUB?!?!?! You can't honestly be asking if it matters or not, if you've been down to the PUB..!! If the PUB didn't matter you wouldn't go down there :)
 
If you are accusing me of a 'drunk' post, then say so. If not, then please clarify. I can be in a place (in terms of alcohol-induced effects) where I judge myself to be unfit to do, for example, reviews, but still have the ability and right to express my opinions in a place such as this.
^ As I am now, BTW.
 
@bad_coder You seem to be using ? and ! quite a lot, as if to try to make your point.. how to say, stronger perhaps.
 
How do I clean up this mess? stackoverflow.com/a/627974/1839439
 
11:15 PM
@Dharman it's beyond me...not a PHP buff.
@Scratte ohh come on, a guys whose avatar is a question and exclamation mark should be liberal regarding the next man's use of punctuation.
 
@AdrianMole You seem perfectly coherent to me. I'd let you operate on my leg.
 
@IanCampbell Funny you should say that ... an acquaintance in a local 'shop' is currently suffering from a very large bursar on his knee. I tried to tell him that it would just go away in time, but ...
 
@AdrianMole I think we are just getting worried. We need you. We really appreciate your help, but we need you sober.
 
See... you missed your chance. Now I might draw the line at my intracranial circulation. I might ask you have nothing to drink for at least 2-3 hours.
 
@Dharman Don't worry; be happy! I am neither sober nor drunk - no more than on many previous occasions. I know my limits.
 
11:22 PM
@IanCampbell I love Dharman, Ian Campbell has garnered my respect thus far, and Adrian Mole's should have a drink with me one of these days.
@AdrianMole Since you mention it, Shog9 got me inspired, so tonight I'm helping myself to a 2014 Vintage Red.
 
I had huge respect for Shog9 until he described Shiraz as a "kind of Merlot!"
 
@AdrianMole I noticed your post but I'm not giving away how I write that first variety.
@AdrianMole Here's to us old chap. Cheers!!!
 
@AdrianMole Mon Dieu! Speaking as someone who has made (and drunk) lots of both I can definitely assert that is not remotely the case...
 
OK, am I missing something? This suggested edit doesn't add much. stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/26731923
 
Nae bovver! La Bas. Pas problem.
 
11:28 PM
I mean, bolding the word deprecated, just isn't doing it for me.
 
^ But they have the power of revenge downvotes. I would probably skip.
 
I've got plenty of buffer to 10k =P
 
@IanCampbell I think it can be improved. I wouldn't reject it as it brings useful info from the title into the question.
 
@Nick I would have improved it, but I wasn't 100% sure I understood what the OP intended.
It introduces formatting errors and leaves major grammatical errors
 
@IanCampbell I'm not 100% certain either but it looks like an error message received during compilation (which should be formatted as such), and yes, the grammar is what I would improve...
 
11:32 PM
@Dharman Speaking of which, I have that Champagne bottle ready for tomorrow.
 
Hmmm, I think I need to go to a shop tomorrow
 
@Nick OK, thanks for the feedback. I'll skip next time.
 
@IanCampbell I don't care for the rep. loss. But I have only a few questions, and downvotes on those make me look poor - which I don't like.
 
@AdrianMole I only have 2 question, and one of them is only +1, so I'm even more vulnerable to question ban revenge
 
@IanCampbell Yep! It's an issue that need (IMHO) looking into.
 
11:35 PM
@AdrianMole If only you knew this heavenly nectar and aroma explosion of this last sip...
 
Tennent's Lager?
 
@AdrianMole hahaha no. I spent some time with British friends last summer and their beer choices were good. But wine simply has...how should I say it...more.
 
Wine and beer are like socks and sandals: one the other, but not both.
 
@Nick I don't make those two, but I do make other varieties...
@AdrianMole sorry, I had one lovely British professor who wore socks and sandals.
 
Hmm - academics!
 
11:40 PM
@AdrianMole yeah and this one was a mathematician, more brilliant than I'll ever be.
 
@IanCampbell I edited to this I think it reflects OPs intent.
 
@Makyen I've just seen your message, thanks, actually the fact is that I'm not really aware of the "Roomba" rules (cf. the question that I had asked above: ` by the way could you very briefly recall if the "upvote/downvote count" (or the number of answers) play a role w.r.t. delete votes in a given question? `), do you know if all these details related to deletion is documented somewhere in stackoverflow.com/help ?
 
@Nick Beautiful
 
@AdrianMole now be truthful with me, what are you having? And please tell me, of all nights, you didn't go abstinent precisely today.
 
11:42 PM
@NobodyNada excellent, thanks!
(beforehand I was puzzled to see that https://stackoverflow.com/help/search?q=roomba led to no result…)
 
You can also install Makyen's awesome Roomba Forecaster script, which adds roomba information to the little info-bar above each question.
 
I highly recommend Roomba Forecaster
 
OK, thanks for the tip!
 
@ErikMD yeah, help search can be a little wonky
 
@bad_coder I'm never anything other than truthful (to anyone); and the rest of your sentence doesn't make.
... sense.
 
Ok, I went to town on both the question and the answer and I rewrote the code in both. Now I need a mod to delete the secondary answer stackoverflow.com/a/8282090/1839439
 
Good to know, thanks a lot @Makyen
 
@ErikMD np. I'm glad we were all able to help.
 
@AdrianMole it doesn't make sense? Well then the wine is probably very good.
 
@Dharman Those are some major edits.
 
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