@janw if you're using TamperMonkey you can click Edit on the script and its second tab: Settiings offers an option to disable the update check: i.sstatic.net/nLQ8v.png I'm not sure if this exists for other script managers.
@janw You could use the recommended alpha version of the Request Generator script, which does a better job at discriminating between network/server problems and actual new versions. You should be able to get it from this URL, even though GitHub is down.
@Scratte There's no intent at obfuscation. I'm not certain what you're asking. Are you asking if we could put the script's URL in the script? There are appropriate @ directives to do so, but those are mostly intended to be used if you're directing the update logic to use some URL for updating which is different than the URL from which it was installed. The script does have the URL as var URL = on line 484.
@Scratte You can change at any time up until the end, or at least that's the way it has been...
@Makyen I'm sorry, I hadn't noticed that line :) I did put in a line that is commented out in case something is off with my browser. The amount of userscripts makes it unfeasible that I should remember where I installed them from :)
@Scratte At least in Tampermonkey, that information is in the settings tab for the individual script. It's not available in Greasemonkey, but is probably available in the backup it produces, but I haven't checked.
Heh.. that makes it clear that the dilemma is between having been serial voted and wanting to fix that, or having a declined flag. Personally I'll take the downvoting any time :)
@Makyen Hmm.. I think I've done it differently. I've pasted the script into a new script. It makes mine look like this
@Scratte Ahh... that makes it difficult for the userscript manager to automatically update with new versions. I usually only do that when there's no place to get the raw script text (i.e. no URL from which to directly install, or if I'm specifically wanting to disable auto-updates for a script I'm working on.
@Scratte Well, you could always manually put the URL in the "Update URL" field.
@janw Thank you. I'm glad you like it. Yes, there are a number of improvements. It's labeled "alpha", because it doesn't work with Greasemonkey on Firefox, but does work with everything else on which it's been tested.
@Makyen I found it a little irritating that the script auto-updated, since I made my own little changes. I also like to keep the two files separate, so I can easily compare the original with mine. :)
Of course I could just remove the "Check for updates" but I think I just like to keep all the relevant information in the same file. If I reuse any of it later, it's also easy for me see where I got it from and hence what license applies.
@Scratte I can understand that. The script shouldn't auto-overwrite the changes you make, but Tampermonkey will bug you about an update until you either update or change the revision number in your version. The alpha version of the Request Generator should only notify you once of a new version, and not do so again for that version, if you decline to go to the update URL.
@janw there is a bunch of spam advertising that domain. it is almost certainly, at a minimum, an undisclosed affiliation. If you're curious about the details of Smoke Detector and correct report handling, you can always pop over to Charcoal HQ
It can be a touchy subject here, as it frequently comes very close to (or is) moderating users
@Makyen In my experience, it definitely will overwrite your changes, as soon as a new version number is available from the install source.
@Scratte I recommend forking the repo and maintaining your own copy. That'll prevent auto-updates, and also make it easier for you to merge in your changes with the master.
@RyanM There's no user anymore, and wasn't when janw asked that question, so probably not bordering on anything untoward ;-) Specifically, I don't think asking about the result of a SD report here is at all problematic, unless it gets into a protracted discussion, then it's just noisy.
@Makyen Uh... I don't know. I've done both, checked and unchecked. I can't remember in which specific configuration my local changes have been overwritten.
@CodyGray Yeah, I figured out that the user had been destroyed when I went to see if they'd posted anything else other than two spam posts...I assume from the destruction that they had not
@CodyGray I don't have it checked. I typically get a notification that there are updates. If I click on the notification, then I'm given a page with a diff of the updates and can confirm the overwrite, or cancel.
@RyanM No problem, the link to the SD domain history was already sufficient. But I will take this to the Charcoal room next time anyways, so it is all in one place
@CodyGray It might. The real fun part is that I'll often have the scripts running in multiple profiles or browsers, so can get a few/several notifications about the same update. :;
@CodyGray That's a nice to have, really :) At present I just have a folder that contains original, and another folder that contains the same files with my changes. I've only ever updated a script twice and it took less than 5 minutes to manually update my own version :D
@CodyGray You'll need long arms. But I do this a lot.. manual versioning :) Even in the office. I do not do it when I'm done with my changes, or halfway done, or whichever is best for the team.. then I will absolutely use whatever is chosen as a version control. But I am very messy in my development phase, and I do not want that mess to be given to others to sort out.
Again, distributed version control makes that unnecessary, as your local copy is always a backup. Unless you rebase your local from the origin (which, if you hate rewriting history, you won't do), then you don't have a problem. (Other than the interpersonal problems that come with berating your coworkers for doing a force push.)
@Rob That's the issue with teamwork something. One doesn't always live with the best way to do things, and hence one compensates around what others think it a good idea :D
@Scratte You were just describing that you do manual versioning using folders/files, and CodyGray was describing using a Version Control System (VCS). I was saying using a VCS is superior (as CodyGray was explaining).
@Scratte Well, .gitignore is for some of the mess, but it really does help to make checkpointing commits when you're at a decision point of how to implement something, or when you finish a portion, etc. It's fine to want a clean history. It's easy to squash, do an interactive rebase, etc. to clean up the history prior to pushing it out to the public repo.
@Scratte Well, honestly, you just do weird things. Some of those strike me as irrational or even foolish, and almost all of them are counter-productive, so I tend to try to "fix" them. Fortunately, they are almost all easy to fix, unlike most of the problems I deal with on a day to day basis, which makes me a bit excited.
@Scratte Everything else I know of pertains to your refusal to use certain features on this site and/or your bizarre misuse of certain other features. No, I don't have a list. (But if I did, I'd maintain it in a Git repository!)
I was mostly thinking of your various uses of the "flags raised by Scratte" page. I forget exactly the details surrounding that perception. It's somewhat exhausting to keep up with; I can't imagine living it.
@CodyGray Oh. I'm hardly the only one that misuses that feature by looking at my flag history. I'm sure anyone that's ever posted a declined-flag Question on meta, did that.
Grrr... The API doesn't allow tag-only edits and removes trailing dots from the title when editing, which makes my bot fail the is tag-only edit quality check repetitively
@Vickel well, if they can't create a log /stack trace for when it crashes isn't it a kind of guessing game? But I'm not a python dev or familiar with android debugging so maybe that is just me. I'm not comfortable using my vote for re-opening.
I had some of my comments deleted, fair enough maybe I was a bit dry as the user is new but I was pointing out that this is basically asking for a personal problem asked in a "please do my homeworks fashion"
@CodyGray Why though? I disagree with this, after all the flagger can't check serial voting. That could put some (including me) off reporting serial voting
@Machavity If it does not get reversed, which is likely it won't, then you should flag this. This is generally a sign that the votes are illegitimate. One occurrence does not make me flag your account for voting irregularities obviously, but the person who did it to you could be doing this to many more people.
@Dharman It's gonna get reversed. 12 upvotes in 2 mins will be noticed
In June 2019 someone ran around trying to do that under the radar. I had slightly more upvotes over the month, but it wasn't enough to mod flag. User was eventually removed and 42 upvotes went with them
In a case like the puppy question from SD above, the answer was spam, but would the question itself also be spam (without the answer it just looks off-topic)?
@JeanneDark if it is dead obvious that it is the only reason the question is posted then, yes. Specially if the answer is posted close when the question was posted. I tend to leave a comment in that case on the question as well: spam seed. Alternative is to close it so it can't receive new spam answers.
Where should we report users for spam? I'm talking about that post which disappeared almost immediately. The user still has blatant spam in their profile info and even avatar.
I'd love to also flag because they've misspelled a word in the username but sadly, that itself is not a flaggable offence, even if it's the greater one.
@VLAZ not so much their profile as no one's going to see it without posts, but they're so very, very clearly just here to spam and need their account destroyed.... flagging it was fine
@rene When I found it (in First Posts RQ) yesterday, I didn't even spot the missing dot - hence my comment. But dots mean different things to different folks in different languages, so I deferred to this room's awesome pool of expertise.
... now, a new user will be thinking that I gave one of the downvotes!
@rene So, in 5 years' 10 years' time, when that user has 100K rep, and I'm running for Moderator, I'll have to link to this chat to "prove my innocence" and get their vote!
@Scratte back in the days we had Teams and the room had their own team as well. The RO team invited users in that team so they could be confirmed members. Here is an attempt to show what it looked like : se-team.glitch.me/team/57ab6a99c558784628433f1c it uses the old data. After its unshipping we didn't went looking for a replacement.
My thought process was that, although the the extra p's could be seen as abuse, I wanted to give the author the benefit of the doubt as that form of communication is common in some circles.
@TylerH Nope, that's not me. I've just been overloading the homepage by editing in ms-access to everything tagged access-vba. The edits that could be done via the API are done, now I'm reviewing all posts that can't be edited because of content issues, and doing those manually
@TylerH All *-vba tags except access-vba are gone. I'm doing this so access-vba can join them and get merged with vba, have put in around 3K edits today I think, most via the API
I've noticed those edits, though. I suspect Jeeped, he's gone from SO but still hangs around other SE sites, and has a really good concept of VBA and how to ask things here.
@ErikA Ah... I'm referring to the "post edits" counter. Tag-only edits don't count toward that number (to prevent abuse in search of the editing gold badge, for example), so that's the reason for the huge disparity.
Even before this action there was a gigantic disparity between those, because of the access tag that luckily is gone now, burninations, and stuff like that
@Machavity Oh. I see. A tag on a site.. not a lot of action though.
What happens if a moderator is suspended from the site? Do they get their moderator status back when the suspension is lifted? Or is it obviously taken away with the suspension?
@Scratte That depends on the reason of the suspension. I know of a certain mod that got a short suspension because he was running a rogue bot on his account, and he of course got his status back immediately
@ErikA I think I read about that on meta.stackexchange. The bot just had to earn it's own reputation point instead of being granted access, if I remember correctly.
You have to remove a diamond from a mod for the suspension to actually do anything - otherwise the suspension does nothing and they can just remove their own suspension anyway...
And I guess now that we have that formal reinstatement process, any removal of the diamond for non-technical reasons would have you go through that to get it back
@Scratte Yeah, I limit my comments to saying that is off topic here, not were it could be asked, unless I'm 120% sure it can be answered on the other site.
And yes, I know that the close reason says that, which is why I hate it.
It's a legacy from when SE was just SO, SU and SF.
@Braiam So not even if it was seriously rewritten would they accept a Question about missing images when transferring them between a phone and a computer?
I think I did read their help section once, but it confused me :(
@Scratte Mounting iphone's filesystems in windows is finikly. While yes, SU accepts Windows questions and interaction between Windows and accessories, iPhone and Android are generally considered their own beast.
I recommend you to search on their meta. There are cases where android questions are accepted: ie. when the android device is set to behave as a dumb thumb drive.
@Zoe OK, so I'm leaning towards fictitious. It seems to be a mishmash of addresses that don't really make sense. Frierson, Louisiana is nowhere near NJ and doesn't have a Crosby Avenue according to Google Maps.