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12:37 AM
@sideshowbarker you don't vote to close --you flag it as spam
 
1:22 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels yeah I flagged it as spam already, and I didn’t close-vote it — I delete-voted it, and del-pls’ed it because I don’t see any other option in the Close Vote generator for generating a request message that will go to SOCVR
are we not supposed to delete-vote spam?
 
@sideshowbarker No, we are to simply flag as spam and leave it at that
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I see. OK. But I don’t understand the rationale for not delete-voting it, or what harmful effects there would be to delete-voting it. Is the rationale documented anywhere? I’m not super fond of being told to follow some rule that I don’t understand the rationale for.
by the way, it’s an answer, so nobody can close-vote it anyway. I understand why it shouldn’t be down-voted, but delete-voting is something different from down-voting
it seems to be one goal ought to be to get the spam deleted as soon as possible, and on the face of it, it seems like delete-voting it helps to achieve that goal
 
/me reads
@HovercraftFullOfEels OK thanks but that also doesn’t explain the rational for not at least also delete-voting. Oh well, anyway, I guess it’s not worth any more time to think about it. I’ll just mindlessly fall into line and do what I’m told
 
@sideshowbarker: perhaps there is a risk of deletion before it has been fully vetted as spam, allowing the poster to post yet again. That's the way that I look at it. In terms of degree of criminality, posting spam is much worse than posting a non-answer, a bad-answer or a deleted-answer.
 
2:25 AM
@KenWhite I already beat you to it.
 
@Daedalus I see that (now). :-)
 
 
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5:57 AM
@sideshowbarker if you flag correctly and with a bit of rep you can cast 100 spam flags per day, you only have 30 delete votes, so that is one reason to only use spam flags on pure spam. Another reason is, I think but I'm not 100% sure, that the feedback into SpamRam, including IP block only kicks-in on 6 spam flags. If a post gets deleted before it collected those 6 flags, the system might not qualify the IP address as 100% spam source, allowing it to reach the network again.
So the rationale is one of efficient use of the resources available to you and "learning" feedback to the SE Spam prevention system
 
 
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9:10 AM
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please bin my last cv-pls, my mistake, sorry
it's not a typo
 
@rene Thanks, that makes sense
 
@sideshowbarker In addition to what rene said, spam flags impose penalties on the account who posted it. Which is appropriate if it's actually spam, but not appropriate otherwise. So use spam flags when it's spam, and not when it's just a useless answer that needs to be deleted.
 
@CodyGray OK yeah that part I’ve been clear on. The one I flagged was spam
 
I didn't look back at any of the context for that discussion. Just read rene's response.
 
9:25 AM
OK
 
 
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10:37 AM
A wild pair of glasses appears ....
 
 
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4:29 PM
Morning all /o
It's starting to look like my idea that my new job would leave me more time for SO was overly optimistic :/ ... commute time has more than doubled and while at work it's full-on. Meh.
 
 
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11:15 PM
@EJoshuaS Why delete that now? While the question isn't good and should be deleted eventually, IMO we should give the OP at least the entire on-hold time to fix their question. I know that it's likely they never will, particularly given that they have accepted an answer, but why shouldn't we give them the opportunity to do so?
 

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