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Autoflagged FP: flagged by @SmokeDetector, @Rob, @quartata
 
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Zoe
Zoe
07:55
@StephenKennedy no clue
I left the compiling overnight. The orange light on my pi appears th be off, but I can't really see it from here without my lenses
 
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09:36
@halfer out of CVs?
@double-beep Who, me or you? :-) I don't tend to run out.
I'm more of an editor than a closer.
then what is the purpose of (see dup target in my comment)?
@double-beep Duplicates need to be closed as a duplicate of something. It requires readers in this room to use two links, not one (I could add it in my report here, but I think that is harder to parse).
@halfer no, all people can see the duplicates from the CV/flag dialog
so, it isn't required at all?
@double-beep I think that's how I've formatted dup reports in the past. If this format is unpopular for SO CVR then I can change it.
Tiw
Tiw
09:44
@halfer Not that. It's just you're supposed to use your vote too. Also, I'm not quite sure, but you shouldn't edit it if you send the cv-pls.
@halfer that's mainly useful if you were unable to nominate a duplicate yourself (such as when you already voted to close for some other reason, and only then discovered the duplicate)
Righto, thanks for the feedback folks.
@Tiw Not quit. You shouldn't edit a question to make it active so you can cv-pls here. But IMO there is no restriction to edit questions with recent activity
Tiw
Tiw
If I remember right, one of the principle of socvr is Not involved in the requested posts, where edit is a kind. I asked about comments before, comments can be excluded.
Anyway, things can change, and people have different views.
@Tiw I think you are talking about answering, rule #15. For editing it's for review-pls
Tiw
Tiw
09:56
@vega I see. Thanks for clarifying for me :)
@halfer Sorry I misled you about edit part.
@Tiw Np :)
Zoe
Zoe
What the hell happened to main?
There's a unicorn??
whaaat?
There is.
stackoverflow in the future? Time travel xD
Zoe
Zoe
10:03
I seriously thought some nasty stuff had gotten into my browser xd
in every question I click this thing happens always!
and here is a screenshot for those who are wondering
Zoe
Zoe
At least it's only on SO this year
Zoe
Zoe
yeah, I figured
Can we keep it as it's now?
Zoe
Zoe
10:09
Why doesn't it auto-disable? xd
I like the pixie dust :)
@Sami I am not going to use it, I am enjoying the new UI too much ;)
Me too @Vega
It has a lot of flowers
10:25
@Sami It's pixie dust I think :)
Something like, anyway I don't like it @Vega ;)
I love SO as it is
10:40
@rene where are you hiding? I bet that this is your fault :-)
!!/blame
@double-beep It's BDL's fault.
@Zoe No, it's not... It's everyone on the network.
I couldn't tell the difference at first. Looked just like the userscript I've been using for years.
Zoe
Zoe
@CodyGray I noticed. I checked meta just before I posted that and it wasn't there
So I thought it wasn't, but I spoke too soon :]
blame caching?
Zoe
Zoe
10:46
It doesn't appear to be enabled for question lists
No, I'm only seeing it on question pages. It isn't working in the mod tools, either.
Zoe
Zoe
at least that's a good bug :]
Anyway, document.cookie = "tm2019=1; expires=Tue, 3 Apr 2019 12:00:00 UTC; path=/"; turns it off when ran in the console for that entire site
For some reason, the comment "handwriting" font is too small.
Thoroughly broken site contributes to the true 90's experience though
10:56
Cookies were broken back in the 90s, too. I'd say it was all part of the prank, except...
Sorry y'all. It's a bug. We're working on a fix. Thanks for reporting it. We'll get this adjusted shortly. — Catija ♦ 11 mins ago
Speaking of bugs, the comment upvote and flags are highlighted as if they were raised, it's misleading
Probably intentional. That's too obvious that it can't be missed, and it's not red.
11:12
"How can I simplify the following code?" are valid questions? e.g. stackoverflow.com/q/55435054? or do they belong in code review?
Zoe
Zoe
sounds like CR
when I tried to change the title to "How to simplify this SQL query?"
> Question with this title already exists
xD
11:26
Has anyone else noticed a wierd screen layout with a Unicorn and stars dripping from the cursor?
you have joined the party a little bit late I think
@RiggsFolly No, what are you talking about?
Hahaha Thats a relief Thought I had been hacked
Comic Sans day!
I bet they didn't plan for April fools but it looks like @balpha left his last marks ...
11:29
plug: I recommend using the script in my answer rather than / in addition to one of the other two.
Zoe
Zoe
@RiggsFolly I honestly thought the same. I almost panicked when I saw it xd Not the specifically best idea for an april fools xd
@rene balpha hasn't worked on April Fools pranks for the past couple of years.
Zoe
Zoe
@JohnDvorak flags as spam... :p
For everyone's sake, don't.
Zoe
Zoe
That was a horrible joke btw :]
11:32
I like the new stackoverflow design
It's even disclosed. AAAND solicited.
@CodyGray then the surprise is even bigger ;)
11:49
I clicked to 'Go to the future' in sidebar menu and now it's gone :( How to bring it back?
ask on meta ...
Look for the "Hit Me Baby One More Time" button
12:03
Clearing cookies did it. crosses fingers to survive to some bird attacks
Migrated already
@double-beep mod-deleted answers and migrated?
Ok I am not liking this year's April 1st theme.
I almost threw a fit when I opened SD's link.
@Zoe yeah. ty. lol
^^ people getting lots of unnesecary reputation
Zoe
Zoe
Np. You're lucky you missed the bug aspect of it though - that was extremely annoying xd
@double-beep Welcome to meta, where the points matter even less
I think the unicorn (or whatever we could see of it) left SO
I immediately checked the date and was like it's not April 1st yet, then I remembered, it's already there somewhere so it apply to all of us. lol
12:24
@Nkosi I am not sure it will be gone with the same timezone, though
lol
12:40
Flaming logos, guestbook, proudly crafted in Notepad, best viewed in Navigator, page view counter, marquees, dodgy wallpaper - wow. Just like the good old days eh @Zoe?
Zoe
Zoe
I wasn't alive then, and I was this close to leaving the site for a couple of days over it
I'm a hater of enforced hilarity too, but can't deny they've done an amazing job recreating the worst excesses of the early web. That time could have been better spent ofc.
Zoe
Zoe
Yes, such as implementing one of the unnecessarily many unimplemented feature requests to make moderation better
13:01
^ @halfer see
spam? undisclosed affiliation
@double-beep They have posted the same answer two hours ago, deleted by a mod, but not as a spam
Tiw
Tiw
13:21
What do you think about this tag? Someone has created it by just edit it into questions...
that doesn't seem like a useful edit
@tripleee Sorry tripleee, what am I looking at?
13:49
@halfer related to the earlier discussion, a cv-pls where I was unable to properly nominate a duplicate target because I had voted to close for another reason already
And finally, Stack Overflow gives people the official dark theme they've always wanted
@CodyGray My only gripe so far is you can't tell what comments you've upvoted
@tripleee Ah, a useful approach. Mine was different as I did have a dup target, but your approach is worth noting. Thanks.
@Machavity It's indeed confusing, +1 ;)
13:59
My only complaint is that people keep posting images of code.
Oh wait, no, that's probably not related to this theme.
@CodyGray Yeah, the 90s just won't end
brb posting VRML question
That wasn't a problem in the 90s
Images hadn't been invented yet
The images of code have been invented since 2008
So... where do I sign the SO guestbook? And why is there no web ring?
Guestbook is at the bottom
14:06
webring - "STACK EXCHANGE NETWORK"
^ web rings! gosh, good call
Proudly built in Notepad <- At least they got that right
@StephenKennedy I had to google that
@Vega Ummm... yeah, me too.... I'm 21 yo, honest!
@StephenKennedy I cut my HTML teeth on Geocities...
14:09
Too broad, has active bounty, don't know what should be done stackoverflow.com/questions/55412740/…
@Machavity What was your Hotbot ranking?
Back in the day when we had to code our sites in Notepad, use tables to position everything, and had to wrap each element in the <font> tag. And then you had to make sure it worked in IE5.5
@StephenKennedy Not sure I used that one, but you had to be in like 10 web rings for your site to be found
Or hope people knew about Altavista
HotBot was a competing search engine in the 90s
One of those start-ups by university students
Obviously a silly idea
Ah, I remember now. And Lykos was another
@Machavity as the burn is reportedly over, you might to destar the message about it
14:25
@StephenKennedy We normally only unpin it, which has already been done. Although, I can see some arguments for removing the stars.
@Makyen Can you see any arguments for not removing the stars? :)
@StephenKennedy A record of the number of people interested?
We can put that into the official transcript: 4 people were interested :D
Your call ofc, I wasn't aware it had been unpinned.
@StephenKennedy For pinned messages, the star is outlined and it's kept at the top of the starboard. There are currently two pinned messages.
I know how it works, it's just that I would have needed to remember that it had been pinned in the first place
14:35
@StephenKennedy As to removing the stars, I'm not strongly for it or against it. Looking at a search, we've mostly left the stars in place, with only one or two times of removing them from burnination notices. If people are finding it confusing, then we can remove them.
@StephenKennedy done
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Q: Should we burninate the [double-underscore] tag?

double-beepI recently came across to the double-underscore tag due to the recent underscores burninate request which was declined and it was decided that the tag should be kept. It has totally 25 questions, where none of them is closed. The tag seems useless to me. Its description says that: Use this t...

he he
started splitting my mega list
BTW, I couldn't find a punny title
@StephenKennedy Me too! Just kidding... but there is no age to be an ignorant (as I was) or use google ;)
15:13
Note on the del-pls above -- the OP has now completely changed the question, asking something new entirely. Moderators have been flagged.
@HovercraftFullOfEels question-banned?
@double-beep: I don't know, and it's impossible to know. Likely not as it appears to be his first question
Nope, not his first question
Moot point as now it will likely be roomba'd
@Vega Is your profile photo up to date?
@StephenKennedy Hahaha, not really, I changed my glasses since
15:23
@double-beep Yes
common: they are editing their questions to ask a new one because they are question-banned
@Vega We need an avatar designer in the Stack Overflow profile editor :-)
@double-beep: yes, we've all seen this. Now get ready for a new user identity asking the same question
And the avatar designer needs to have cats in it, obviously.
@halfer Yes and yes!!! :D
15:34
@Vega It can work on hoomans too, I suppose
Zoe
Zoe
@double-beep bullet point 4 is malformed
"Does it mean the same thing in all common contexts?" - "No, it means __" - that implies the same meaning. "It refers to __, but has a different meaning depending on the language" would be slightly better
my <s>photo</s> avatar has a cat in it
don't remember where I made it though
@halfer Are you going to make a feature request for that? I promise to upvote :)
@StephenKennedy You don't need any edit then :)
@Vega Ha, one day maybe! ,----(O=-=O)----, <-- my spectacles designer is a work in progress...
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy ---photo---
15:47
scones
ah I see, ty
16:13
@Vega I need an edit. My avatar doesn't.
@StephenKennedy On which question?
@Vega Lol no, a life edit, maybe a change of scene or something
@StephenKennedy Learn JS?
@Vega I know enough JS already thanks. I was thinking more of positive change, not negative :P
@StephenKennedy Oops, I made a wrong supposition. And lol
16:21
@Vega Hey, you changed your avatar
@StephenKennedy Thanks for noticing :)
@Vega It's nice, but there is a distinct lack of felines.
^ flag please
@halfer I hope to look like >21yo ;)
@Vega In cat years or hooman years? :-D
16:35
@halfer xD
I think my avatar cat is ~13, which makes her around ~50 in human years. Getting old fairly gracefully.
@StephenKennedy MS is having some problems, maintainers were pinged, but they were in mobiles :) Now they seem that they are trying to fix...
@halfer She is very cute! :) I got to take care of some stray cats (a mom and two kittens). The mom is expecting again, and I am guessing there will be four more to feed
/o ... omg, the April fools theme is terrifying
16:50
I have decided to run for CEO of Stack Overflow. My Meta Questionnaire
@Machavity You got me there. I was going to say that I support it
@Machavity I'm guessing that link is a message of support from a Mr Astley... ?
17:17
@StephenKennedy If elected, I promise to roll Rick
@Zoe well kinda, although it're more rant than discussion
Does this answer look NAA to anyone else? Too many "thingy" references for me...
@Machavity I gave you a vote already this year and didn't get anything out of it. At least Zoe gave me virtual cake and Jean got elected. You need to buck your ideas up mate!
@StephenKennedy Yes, I have failed my supporters and apologize profusely
^ That's better
17:24
@Zoe That person is going headfirst into a wall over and over, and blames the wall...
@MadaraUchiha I so hope the comments get moved to chat, and that OP then complains of the difficulty of seeing them now that they're behind a link :P
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@Machavity a poor attempt to answer, but an attempt nonetheless so a reluctant no from me. "Thingy" could be edited away.
Moved to chat
Zoe
Zoe
@MadaraUchiha yeah... I cannot understand why people don't listen to constructive criticism xd
@Zoe Literally all you needed to do is copy and paste on paragraph from your blog post (which I have not even read) and maybe a small snippet, and that's it
That's all they needed to do.
17:30
^^
and they keep complaining all the time
Zoe
Zoe
@MadaraUchiha it's not much either... To be honest, the low percentage of posts fixed is unnecessarily low
I'm just going to delete their comments until they get the hint, or until I get tired of it and lock it
Don't get me wrong, it might be that I wouldn't have deleted it in Cody's place
Please don't lock it. Just let it get closed and deleted by the community
But it's not that they thought Cody was wrong in his decision, it was that it was rude to even touch his post
Weeeeeelllllllll, maybe don't post in a platform where literally all other users can edit, and a good few can delete it without consulting you first.
@Adriaan Your wish seems to be coming true :D
(Are small one-message oneboxes allowed? If not I'll edit)
half of SOCVR clicked the link though
@MadaraUchiha not by us plebs, you might get away with it but knowing rene you also might not :)
17:46
@Vega Thanks, I will pass on strokes and fuss to her! I am sticking with one feline though - this one is diabetic, uninsured and costs a fortune :=).
@halfer He/she is a cutie :)
@StephenKennedy In the UK/Midlands we're lately getting some nice weather, so she is getting a few sunbathes per day!
I have one cat, who is extremely loyal but only affectionate when she wants to be. Also had her brother who was adorable but he went missing in a bad winter. We think a fox may have taken him :(
@halfer On the first point, I know :) [near Cheltenham]
@StephenKennedy Ah, that's sad. Yes, sometimes they do pass away. I have a friend whose greyhound ate their neighbour's cat - unfortunately the race training is not something that's the dogs fault.
(Can't blame the owners either)
We had a lurcher when I was a child. Co-existed with the cat perfectly fine, but ofc he hadn't been trained to race after things.
17:53
@StephenKennedy Ooh, I'm travelling to Cheltenham every day for a client at the moment. Hadn't ever been until I took this one on.
@halfer Yes, behind the ears, please ;)
@Vega Your wish is my command!
Those are terrible stories :(
She is a big fan of under the chin too.
@halfer Haha, yes that too
17:54
And head/crown massage, makes the purr box go doubly fast.
@halfer :D
@Vega The cat we lost was just the most affectionate thing ever. He wanted to be friends with everyone - human and feline. I put up posters, we called the people who clean up the roads, searched the surrounding farmland and called neighbours - nothing. What haunts me is that I'm not sure he wasn't outside my window the night he disappeared. I now make sure if the cat wants to come in, she comes in whatever time it is.
@halfer Down the M5?
@StephenKennedy Down the train tracks!
@halfer Glad to hear it! I live near the motorway in what should be peaceful countryside and it's a blight on my life
18:01
@StephenKennedy That's sad - they become part of the family.
@StephenKennedy modern triple glazing is the answer!
@StephenKennedy Could someone have taken him? I would prefer that version
@Vega That's a nicer thought, ty
One comment left in the rant room, 5 stars, I think I'll quit while I'm ahead and get back to work :)
I just got my first bounty!!! \o/
co... co... congratulations!
@Vega Nice work :-)
18:09
@Vega Nice, how many points?
Thank you all. Only 50, but I am so glad :)
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@Queen gone now
50 more than I ever earned from a bounty :) Well done \o/
@StephenKennedy I was crossing fingers and toes for that, I guess it helps ;)
18:14
@HovercraftFullOfEels Heh, "no rubbish answers" :=)
Zoe
Zoe
@HovercraftFullOfEels Ninja'd ^^"
18:37
@HovercraftFullOfEels gimme teh poyn
Man, I hope the fairy dust goes away soon - it makes me not want to visit the site :/
you are outdated.
@tink: you can make it go away. Click on the clock in the upper right of your Stack Overflow question screen
@HovercraftFullOfEels heh
@tink Hahah .... I was thinking - too bad the fun is going away in a few hours. I am probably alone to enjoy that pixie dust. Have you tried to "go back to the future"?
I, for one, that the quality of the new design very much matches the quality of the functionality of the site.
Zoe
Zoe
xd
@HovercraftFullOfEels I'm still waiting for that unicorn you promised me!
argh, can't edit, missing "feel" there somewhere^
What the sam hill did I just log into
Zoe
Zoe
@GBlodgett The worst April Fools joke SE has produced yet xd
18:52
For a minute I thought I had logged into some cheap knock off of SO. Goodness my eyes
it's ghastly and a waste of time, but the web really did look like that. they nailed it in that regard.
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Zoe
Zoe
Great, let's just roll back everything to the 90's! brb, I gotta add <blink><marquee> to everything.
it is awesome
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@rene weren't you already old in the 90s?
oh cr... just realized that it is not April fools day yet in most of the world so I'd have to watch it the whole following day too... Gonna disable now.
18:59
@Adriaan yes.
@Zoe 90s web might suck a bit but it was a pretty good decade otherwise - the last big new music scene (rave/electronic), free festivals, hot hatches, no surveillance state, and best of all - people talked to each other rather than staring at their phones
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy The bigger sites still weren't that excessive
Back then your phone was just that, a phone. It wouldn't make sense to stare at it
@rene mine still is; doesn't do internet that one
@rene You could stare at a phone if you covered the back in awesome stickers
19:03
@Zoe Nah, it was more the personal sites which proliferated in those days. Basically you'd see a feature on somebody's else site and copy it - or if you didn't have time an "Under construction" notice would suffice :)
I'm not gonna lie - dial up internet sucked big time
the whole web was under construction
Zoe
Zoe
"Sure, we could improve HTML, but I really think this <marquee> element is more important!"
@StephenKennedy I had a consultancy job at TNO in Delft back then. They had a T1 line.
Zoe
Zoe
I know Webpage... It's a <b> move, wouldn't you say?
19:07
It's making my brain hurt
not as important as the flaming logo [there was an IBM commercial mocking that trend but alas I can't find a video of it]
@Zoe very <b>, yes
Zoe
Zoe
throws a <div><blink><marquee><ul><ul><ul> at Sterling
@rene oh man, I dreamed of having a T1 line
waffles
Edited, sorry - my copy+paste was playing up :)
Yes, please, I'll have some waffles!
Zoe
Zoe
19:11
@StephenKennedy you can have one now :p
However I am happy to make do with these fries, garlic mayonnaise and nice cold beer.
@halfer Two golden waffles with powdered sugar for halfer :)
@StephenKennedy the company I worked for did the network infrastructure and the Oracle servers. We made sure we had most of the bandwidth of the T1 at our disposal and on the Oracle production servers SETI@Home was running ...
@Zoe Yes, on my phone, which is also by quite recent standards a supercomputer
@Vega Yum, that can be dessert
19:16
@Vega - no, I hadn't yet ... will give it a shot :D
19:28
@Zoe my nerd rank is 77
nerd
Zoe
Zoe
@SterlingArcher Thx <3
If you check my website, you'll be back in the 1990s too... both layout AND contents
(I don't recommend you do, BTW)
@Jean-FrançoisFabre So it uses HTML 4.01?
Zoe
Zoe
Doesn't load.
19:33
@Zoe: exactly :)
Zoe
Zoe
Huh?
@Machavity I think it uses manual HTML 1 that I learned in 1996
It loads for me. I almost wish it hadn't
@Zoe okay, my joke wasn't that good :)
@Machavity I know...
Just needs more unicorns is all
19:35
As you see, I haven't contributed to StackOverflow UI and I don't think they'll hire me.
Zoe
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre No HTTPS?
that's the only reason I can think of off the top of my head
no, no https, that's soo 2000's.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Also, you could make the text black on a neon yellow background
@Zoe have you built a PC?
Zoe
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre yeah, I have a plugin that blocks non-HTTPS connections. Doesn't do so good all the time, but it still does the trick in forcing upgrade of non-HTTPS connections to keep my logins secure
@StephenKennedy nope
19:38
@Machavity thing is: I never tried to make it look corny or anything. I could make it white background & black letters would look better. The idea was to show some of my retrocomputing/retrogaming work, not my WWW work :)
@StephenKennedy She build Macs, like a civilized fox
I can destroy macs.
Zoe
Zoe
@Machavity I wouldn't use a Mac at gunpoint
Amen to that. I hate supporting the one we have at work
We're building iOS apps with xcode. I'm not the one using the mac, but everytime I do I have to take a xanax or I just smash the thing.
19:42
Use Cordova next time. Runs on all platforms
Zoe
Zoe
Or just don't develop for iOS
not my call... but the cool thing is: the library I'm developping is in C++, so most of the work is done on Windows, with python scripts to test the stuff, Jenkins, etc...
Zoe
Zoe
SCons?
The swift part calling the library I don't want to be close to...
iOS is a market that we're targetting. Don't do this at home, though.
My nerd test V2 result - I admit it, I'm a fraud and only here for the jokes
Zoe
Zoe
19:56
GASP!
but I built my very first PC myself and installed Linux onto it when most people had never heard of it so meh
Slackware
Zoe
Zoe
Ugh, you're just trying to make excuses so you can slack off...
hehe, the name was quite apt (no pun intended)
Zoe
Zoe
20:19
@StephenKennedy Eh, if you man the apt, I'll cc the watch alert to the guards
20:57
@halfer You gave it a shot
I admire you for it, but you were doomed to fail :)
For reference, I had re-closed and locked the question for a while. I think it was discussed quite enough from every possible angle.
How did this get posted to meta by a user with 1 rep? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/382144/…
(Deleted now, but doesn't Meta require 3 rep?)
@AlexanderO'Mara Deleted by owner
another post, now also deleted?
I think you can ask about your posts on meta regardless of the rep.
@AlexanderO'Mara IIRC, meta was changes so you can ask about your own posts, even with 1 rep.
21:04
Oh, interesting.
21:24
Is this one on-topic, or server/networking? Cloud network resource maintenance/management feels a bit more like the latter.
vtc'd su
SU?, baah I think it's ok on SO, maybe typo but I will skip. (overall low traffic stuff, that error can be useful to future users)
21:49
Can comments get auto-deleted for accumulating too many Unfriendly or Unkind flags? Or does a moderator always have to delete it manually?
@MadaraUchiha Ah well, worth a try! :-)
22:02
@Makyen I saw you here pretty late last night... out of curiosity, do you ever sleep? :)
@EJoshuaS Every once in while. :-)
Yeah, I was wondering... only reason I was up at that particular hour was the fact that I couldn't sleep.
I'm sorry to hear that. It's almost never fun when you can't get to sleep when you want to.
OTOH, meetings help (as long as I'm not the one presenting).
Yeah, but it often goes wrong if you start to snore. :-)
22:26
I had a friend in college who was on the basketball team. He dozed off in a large lecture class and started dreaming that he was in practice and was yelling for a teammate to get this loose ball.
heh
He woke up with a start wondering if he had ACTUALLY been yelling... turns out, he wasn't, but still.
would have been much funnier ;)
I would've known, I was in the same class
M-M
M-M
@StephenKennedy 90s web didn't suck as much as SO 90s theme does. Just wanted to express my opinion. lol

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