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20:00
Is this R/A, or just downvote and close?
@rene as you know people can build socks suggesting edit on own post, then approving them and I was thinking maybe its time to find them or by searching for same editor <2K community approved multiple times on post (like at least 2) or maybe only sequence of community approved edits. Is this something that can be done with SEDE or do we need to included it in some bot monitoring edits?
@EJoshuaS Is closed so I would say that's all we need. Doesn't seem like it needs a red flag
Still, some of the OP's subsequent comments are condescending and rude - definitely flaggable as unkind.
The question should be deleted
it will be..
@EJoshuaS flag the comments not the question
20:11
meh he's agitated and probably now question banned. and those comments are borderline rude at worst.
@EJoshuaS I del voted the Q. OP is beating a dead horse in comments
@PetterFriberg that sounds doable with SEDE. PostHistory has all data you need, posthistortypeid 4, 5 and 6
Zoe
Zoe
JS questions related to angular should be tagged with angularjs and not angular, right?
js-angular
20:15
lol
ang-js-ular
5
angular-js, surely?
Zoe
Zoe
eh, whatever it's called and not the non-JS version ^^"
@Zoe Seriously, no idea. Don't the tag wikis have usage guidance?
Zoe
Zoe
Nothing specific
Questions about Angular (not to be confused with AngularJS), the web framework from Google. - I have no clue what the difference is
20:17
don't search on meta for guidance on that topic
@Zoe Questions related to angular needs to be tag angular and questions related to angularjs, angularjs look what I posted today meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/380756/… :), anyway you need to show question for me to judge.
@Zoe I think the newer one is written in Typescript?
Typescript-js I hope?
Yeah angular you write in typescript, but it is compiled to js and you could include custom js-script...
Zoe
Zoe
@PetterFriberg uh, closed the tab a while ago :/
20:19
You've had 1 star from me Rene, you're not getting any more.
Zoe
Zoe
I'll dig it up again
@PetterFriberg Good reason to not use Angular...
meeh I actually like it, at least it compiles :)
@Zoe the difference is just the version. Angular is a newer much bigger thing. AngularJS is the original version when it was smaller in scope
You don't like TypeScript @TylerH ?
20:21
PHP, ASP all those script/html is messy
@StephenKennedy No I don't have any feeling about TypeScript. What I don't like is trying to program in one language, which then compiles into another level of the same language because it's just an abstraction
@rene Just go for the Jav-ular
@TylerH That's the beauty you kind of program routers and controllers... you don't need to worry about the compiled stuff (js), dom manipulation etc.
it's more a dev environment, you should check it out
@PetterFriberg Why not just use HTML and JavaScript
or ASP.NET :-)
Zoe
Zoe
@PetterFriberg this one
@TylerH so pretty much the same thing and the same language, except age xd
20:28
@TylerH because it's messy, I done most of it, XML -> XSLT --> HTML, Faces, Intel XDK (jquery) and it's messy to mix user interface (html layout, images), user actions and backend data.
With stuff like Spring (you have a nice backend dev), angular a good organized front-end and then you just need some css devs if you don't like bootstrap or similar
@Zoe That's angular, not angular-js throwing an error when trying to compile using/on node.js
Zoe
Zoe
yeah, should've figured. Kinda thought there was some mistagging in there, but if it's all on versions, I don't have a chance in hell of cleaning it up without knowing the difference ^^"
'lo all /o
@TylerH I actually hated web applications before angular/react/vue and prefeered old installed swing, mostly because it was messy with ASP/PHP, faces, css, html, j-script..... and time consuming to maintain (browser change), however with these new language and aws/azure etc I'm slowly changing my mind.
I tried MVC - I don't like it because the controller gets compiled to a .dll so I can't just hop onto the production server and sneak a change into the code :-P
you should check out one of Angular/React or Vue they are not bad atleast angular have a nice controller, template structure, there are great libs you can use (so you don't have to dev anything like sortable/searchable tables, datepickers etc yourself). You pretty much only concentrate on the views and the routing.
True it compiles to an unreadable js... but you have full control of css it's outside and it's easy to sneak in a new re-compiled js...
20:44
@TylerH We use Web API (admittedly not MVC) in an old ASP.Net website and I can hack any of it on the fly (it has to be a 'web site' not a 'web project').
What I dislike is that it's messy to install and specially update... you can loose hours over an error like the one Zoe showed.
@TylerH Normally I would agree, but you're assuming equal implementation, something JS has lagged behind in. I got into using JS frameworks to even out those implementation problems
^ there's a flaggable comment there (I went NLN to be on the safe side)
@StephenKennedy I went unfriendly and it autonuked
@StephenKennedy No, it's most definitely unfriendly
with a dollop of sense of entitlement to boot
20:52
Sure it is, but so is calling someone "an awful person" and I got declined on that.
@StephenKennedy don't worry about... I got tons of them
Maybe they deserved to be called that (?)
Yeah we all do..
It was an unfriendly exchange all round, and the other party was a moderator. I hadn't noticed the other party was a mod when I flagged (it came from a bot report in SObotics)
@Machavity IIRC multiple flags of either NLN or Unfriendly (and a combination) will auto-nuke a comment
in some cases you can also unilaterally nuke a comment depending on key words or length criteria
like old "thanks" or "+1" comments
20:58
@TylerH and some rude comments (regex on word and length of comment), considering that the comment was reported I bet it was nuked because the numbers of flag.
@TylerH Yeah, I just wasn't sure if they all had to be the same flag or not
I know NLN on a "thanks" comment will generally autonuke as well
21:15
@Machavity I don't think flag type matters, it deletes with single flag probably based on some Shog regex fu etc or with multiple flags (3+comment score/3) something like that
The regex fu is not very good.. but don't say that I sad that :)
@PetterFriberg Your secret's safe with me :)
I always have so much angst right before I'm about to post a question on SO
@Machavity :) hash it with some MD5
@TylerH Well, it's not like we're all waiting here to close it or anything. Oh, and can you hurry up and post? We haven't got all day...
@Machavity lol
21:23
@PetterFriberg pssh We roll with SHA1 these days. Gotta be safe ya know
@Machavity fine, posted
*hides head in sand and awaits the inevitable dupe or some obvious thing he missed*
@TylerH cv-pls :)
@Machavity would that my question is as well-received as yours
I think one of my questions has received 9 upvotes but it took 5 years and also incurred some (probably revenge) downvotes in that time as well
@TylerH Heh. That's after I bountied it. Still not gotten a full answer yet
21:26
ah, fair enough
If I knew git, I'd help ya out :-)
I'm barely passable in PS
same
I write one script every year or so it seems
Famous question badge is gold, and it requires 10,000 views. The 3 newest recipients of that badge have scores of 0, 0 and 7. So maybe +9 isn't so bad after all?
@StephenKennedy a +9 question is quite good, even though the system says it's 1 short of 'nice'...
Having said that, I see lame questions which have earnt more rep than my entire repertoire and it makes me sad.
21:33
I have a couple of questions that will probably hit the 10k view mark. Both have more than 10. I'm in no danger of getting any other gold question badges. I don't have any gold answers either
@TylerH Oh I see I have a question on +9 too, but it's quite recent and still relevant (C#7) so I see a "nice question" badge in my future :)
bad keyword in username 'Sunchips'. I'm not seeing it.
I have "Famous Question" and "Great Answer". The latter is on +150 but will surely stop paying me soon as it's about Visual Studio 2015.
@StephenKennedy ah, you have quite a few well-received questions... good job :-)
@StephenKennedy you'd be surprised how long people will use old versions of software...
there are still some die-hards complaining about lack of WinXP support I'm sure...
@TylerH Thanks. I'll settle for 180 (the maximum score in darts) having recently moved up from 147 (maximum break in snooker).
@StephenKennedy don't settle! aim for 300, the perfect score in bowling
@TylerH I didn't know that
21:53
#themoreyoulearn :-D
oh, I was wondering why I didn't get any rep popups for the first two votes on the question... it's because I already downvoted 10 answers across the site today -_-
once again I wish the top bar would show negative rep notifications without having to expand it...
@TylerH +2 already?
@StephenKennedy +3
when it was +2 I figured it was caching to blame
then I saw +5 from the 3rd and it hit me oh, I've probably downvoted 10 answers today
@TylerH nice
I should get about 7 of that back as those were also all flagged as exact dupes of much older answers
BhargavRao at least is good about following up on those; dunno about other mods, though.
22:10
@TylerH Wat am I following up on? o_O
@BhargavRao er... I was referencing some mod-flags I raised on several answers in one question today
in the past you have been efficient at handling those, at least when I flag them
for when there are newer answers that are exact copies (or add nothing new) of existing, older answers already to the question
Yep, everyone deletes those..
\o/ das gut
You probably have seen only me because whenever you flag something, the moderator page for me starts blinking and a police siren starts ... :|
LOL
I'm surprised all the mods don't have a siren going off whenever someone from SOCVR mod flags something
22:16
I have different sirens for different people ...
"oh great, one of those SOCVR folks is active again... *puts on glasses* it's go time..."
If rene flags, all other processes are immediately killed and only the browser is left.
one-boxing to gain rene's attention? ;p
that's a day late. We had the Orwell jokes yesterday!
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, onebox. 2 minutes expired, so it wasn't going to be edited.
Waiting for the CV queue to cross 5,000,000 reviews so we can one-box here for 1 hr ...
@Makyen Aw. I was leaving it as a surprise for rene. I wanted to see what a flower can do to a hovercraft ;)
@NathanOliver You can always move it back, if you want. :-)
And incur the wrath of rene? No thank you :)
22:37
If someone comes in and reads just the last few messages, they'd probably think that rene is a ruthless dictator
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He's not so ba<thorn to the neck>
(XX)
Time to stand up against the tyranny of flowers
(xx)
Rene disliked a comment I made on meta, and burnt down my village :(
@Machavity you have a typo in aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/60613/… - routs -> routes
23:36
@TylerH and he has a new answer
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