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user10976548
01:57
@eyllanesc What do you mean typo?
user10976548
:45451824 I'm still confused on what you mean.
@Vakore Typo: Typographical error, that is to say that the problem is caused by writing wrong the name of some variable, function, etc.
user10976548
@eyllanesc And we are supposed to flag for that?
Is this something valid to flag as R/A? stackoverflow.com/a/54858518
@Vakore We must vote to close it because that type of questions does not contribute anything to the community.
user10976548
02:03
@eyllanesc What am I supposed to flag future such questions as?
user10976548
Thank you. I'll keep this in mind for the future.
user10976548
@eyllanesc Why are you linking this to me?
@Vakore You will have the privilege of closing questions once you have a reputation>= 3k
user10976548
02:07
@eyllanesc I can still flag them though...
@iBug IMO, yes, but I'm not sure how the flag would be handled. I don't see much difference between random words that have nothing to do with the question and keyboard mashing.
@Vakore For you to read it and inform yourself of moderation, it seems that you do not know many concepts, bye
user10976548
(-_-)/ - huh?
02:21
The release version of the CV Request Generator (GitHub) (install) has been updated, v1.6.4, to handle deleted users (the alpha version already correctly handled these, so isn't being updated at this time).
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02:57
@Zoe For code formatting, I use a modified version of this Chrome extension. It looks like this one might officially support more languages, but I haven't taken a look at it at all (i.e. I haven't looked at features, or security).
As for the first one I linked: IIRC, I had to do some non-trivial modification to get it working well, but that was partially because I wanted it working in Firefox, but also so it properly added Markdown code-format indenting and syntax highlighting hints.
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07:13
Is there any use to / defined format to dump links to questions that are closed but should be subjected to further treatment the way SOCVR-closed questions are / is there any such treatment?
I don't get it. You mean simply archive them as being closed? (That's all we do with closed Qs for which a request has been made, right)
Yes
I was wondering if someone scours these for potential reopens
Zoe
Zoe
@Makyen I don't use Chrome ^^"
07:33
@Zoe Which browser do you use?
Zoe
Zoe
@Makyen Firefox (65)
@JohnDvorak There was a bot that watched questions which had been cv-plsed for edits with the intent of surfacing potential reopen candidates, but the bot hasn't worked for a while.
@Zoe I have not researched ones for FF recently. At the time I found the ones I mentioned (2016, or so), I didn't find anything for FF. Unfortunately, I can't offer the one I modified, because I never worked out licensing issues, so can't distribute without re-implementing a bunch of code.
Zoe
Zoe
That's why I'm working on one too. I haven't been able to find a plugin or a userscript that does it
I prefer the real browser
Zoe
Zoe
@BhargavRao you like IE?! :p
07:43
Perfection!
Zoe
Zoe
Sure, if you call bug perfection a good thing...
browsh?
stackoverflow.com/users/10681828/hey-you Check out this profile, is that kind of bio appropriate?
@Zlytherin it's not terribly inappropriate IMHO
Zoe
Zoe
^
07:56
Hmm
Morning all \o
@Tiw type furiously without spacebar and yell I am in
Tiw
Tiw
Sometimes I got similar feelings but I dare not spit it out, but I think it's mostly nice ppl though.
@Zlytherin no links to profiles those are room rules
Zoe
Zoe
08:03
@Jean-FrançoisFabre no?
There's no targeting, but that's a question about the profile itself and not the posts of the account
I'd allow this use of a user profile link
Just flag for moderator if you find it really inappropriate. No point in posting links in chat
How can the room help anyway? flag one of the posts with custom mod flag and explain. You don't need us for that.
I remember being kicked from here for posting 2 user profiles linked by voting fraud
Tiw
Tiw
Anyway, we walk the earth carrying unconscious biases and prejudices already. I guess I should just contain and behave myself, and try to avoid prejudgments and see things more thoroughly.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm not sure, but maybe you can create a room for these. I think that's no big deal, and the system will automatically remove some severe ones.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre It was a question, not an action request
Zoe
Zoe
08:11
^
@Closey help
Zoe
Zoe
Wow... It's not even 10 and I'm out of close votes xd
08:30
hey, don't ping me. I don't care :)
I've read the profile and yes, it would need a little rewrite.
@Makyen hehe, who's the OP thanking for their answer, themselves? :P
@Adriaan Looks like they are thanking themselves for the question. :-)
Zoe
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre it depends on context I guess
Can some of you verify if socvr.org is working for you as well? According to my dns the settings are fine. Check with nslookup -type=soa socvr.org and you shouldn't see transip mentioned there.
08:45
@rene loads ok for me
awesome
@rene works for me (pressing the link in the room description that is)
it didn't for me an hour ago.
Works here as well, nslookup -type=soa socvr.org returns ns1-04.azure-dns.com
Reckon this one is too broad? To be honest I'm just astounded by how much overkill it is
09:05
@Zoe probably, and of the mood of the ROs :)
Zoe
Zoe
@rene it's alive
@Jean-FrançoisFabre maybe
09:35
The standalone exe can be found here - Not sure if this contains a malware, use it after scanning only
??
@SurajRao isn't this Shog's "official download location" type, judging the accepted answer?
oh.. I didnt come across that change
is there a link?
dankjewel @BhargavRao
@SurajRao Also, that second answer is not a link and far superior to the accepted one imo
09:39
ah... thank you.. so the new answer qualifies as NAA
@SurajRao the NATO answer should go, looking at the citation by @BhargavRao?
Right.. retracted. Can an RO remove my request?
@ErikA as goes the saying, "if there's a higher voted answer than the accepted one, follow that"
10:13
Getting up and out of my chair for tea/coffee is proving difficult this morning...
10:49
@YvetteColomb: someone's asking about why you did something you did on meta, in case you wanna respond
user3956566
@Cerbrus yep thanks. I've written something
!!/coffee MichaelDodd
@StephenKennedy brews a cup of Macchiato for @MichaelDodd
@YvetteColomb I see no diamonds on that page? Pending re-read? :P
Patience, wolf... Patience
user3956566
@Cerbrus done. I'm avoiding a head ache. I don't want a protracted argument of the rights and wrongs of it. le sigh
10:53
In that case, option 3: don't respond ;-)
@StephenKennedy Cheers :) Ran a 10k PB yesterday in Winchester, so I'm a bit sore today
user3956566
@Cerbrus meh, I feel it's the right thing to do :). btw.. I have 8.25 horses!
Isn't that a bit... much? xD
@YvetteColomb is the quarter stored in your freezer?
Probably stored in another horse
10:59
@Adriaan 2 actual horses and a 6.25hp lawnmower?
user3956566
@Cerbrus I have 18 acres of lush pasture. So lucky
user3956566
@Adriaan Inside another horse and growing
@StephenKennedy so 8.25hp worth of lawn mowing
user3956566
Some of them are on the small site and don't leave much of a footprint on the land
11:20
^ with actual question in an image link
Ooh.. The X people chatting thing in the left sidebar got redesigned on MSO, and looks really nice imo! Finally a design change I fully agree with.
chatting?! down with this sort of thing!
@MichaelDodd Does have a response from OP now. Still closeworthy?
@StephenKennedy Careful now!
11:31
@ErikA I'm unsure. Personally I can't reproduce the issue.
@ErikA I can't find the change to which you refer. Can you share a URL?
@StephenKennedy Looks like this now for me: i.sstatic.net/vSWAk.png
@StephenKennedy That said, I now feel slightly uneasy quoting anything written by Graham Linehan, given his missives towards the transgender community over the past couple of years
@MichaelDodd Best seperate the art from the artist imho.
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12:00
o/ noon all
'middleday all \o
@double-beep but you said that at 12:01 :(
@NickA ?
@MichaelDodd I missed a trick there. Should have said "that would be an ecumenical matter" :)
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12:03
@double-beep You can't say middleday all at 12:01, you have to say it at 12 ;o
@NickA "It's high noon somewhere in the world"
not at 12:01 it isn't!
@StephenKennedy You can blame Railway Time for that
!!/blame
@Shree It's Petter Friberg's fault.
12:05
@MichaelDodd Only in apparent solar time, in reality there aren't any timezones 1 minute off :P
@MichaelDodd If you're able to listen to YouTube at work, here's some more gold from from the wonderful James O'Brien youtube.com/watch?v=VhtYYjV6ITs
@YvetteColomb my support goes to you. How can people answer crap, get 6 upvote and get away with it?
@StephenKennedy oh, in my country, the middleday is considered from 12 to 15. It is now 14:04! I was missing at 12:00:00,00
@double-beep Ah, cultural differences then. As I understand it, midday is exactly 12
@Jean-FrançoisFabre its seems to be more of splitting hairs over technicality of the NAA flag rather than the removal of that post itself
12:09
@StephenKennedy Hilarious yet incredibly depressing at the same time
@double-beep Ah, when I said noon all it was 12:00 my time :D
TBH I already flagged worse answers than this and flag was declined.
@StephenKennedy well, from the meaning of the word, even in my country it should be exactly the middle of the day. :P nvm...
Same here... most of the time Mods err on the side of caution and keep the bar low. This time Mod decided to delete
@Jean-FrançoisFabre You gotta be more conservative with your NAA flags when the answer is upvoted or accepted as they always go to a mod
Tiw
Tiw
12:17
My NAA flags got declined three times. I seldom use NAA flag after that.
and in my experience there is a considerable disparity between community standards in the LQP queue and the standards enforced by mods
^ one of the top hits for "parse URLs from XML" in Google; no good answer, nth duplicate
@tripleee If it's a dupe and top hit on Google, marking it as a dupe of something might be more productive, then the googlers won't get confronted with a closed question
I don't know whether to be happy or sad that my 147 answer has gone to 149. 147 was fun.
@ErikA tru dat, any good candidates?
this is basically language-agnostic so there probably isn't a single good dupe
12:27
multiple dupe targets are a thing aren't they? (if we organise the voting carefully or have a gold badge holder on hand)
yeah, I added a couple but this is a deep, deep rabbithole ... feel free to add more links for more languages
it's got less than 4k views
found one for php but too late
you can still add a comment, can't you?
@Makyen can you unpin some messages? e.g. socvr.org is down and underscores is being cleaned because there are just 13 unclosed questions remaining? There is a mess with 6 pinned messages I think.
le sigh reopens tab * 2 :)
12:36
@StephenKennedy thanks ... I know the feeling (-:
@tripleee Perhaps stackoverflow.com/q/6038061/7296893 (regex). Since OP isn't doing any XML parsing this seems valid.
I would have gone NAA there on face value but domain history is quite revealing metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/domains/21732
is it worth closing the question, given that it should Roomba in 4 days?
@SmokeDetector I removed the link as it points to an article in French but I'm not 100% sure I did the right thing as there is some spam history to that domain
I suppose it's ok if the link doesn't get added back in (and it does, generic bot should inform me)
12:58
@StephenKennedy The whole answer is just a Google-translated copy-paste of the linked page.
@IlmariKaronen May need custom mod flag then, as that wouldn't be immediately obvious
@StephenKennedy Already left a comment (and a delvote) on the answer.
@IlmariKaronen Google improved their translations quite a bit then o.0
@Adriaan a bit a lot.
@Adriaan They're pretty good with technical stuff, especially if their training corpus happens to contain something similar.
Anyway, I checked, and it matches word for word.
13:04
And I realized that Google converted <<>> to quotes: "", so yeah, Google Translated.
If anybody wants to help, I got moderator permission to do a mini-burn on the tag (meta)
@ErikA ... ugh
Parsing XML with Regex, I know, but OP doesn't want to parse XML at all as far as I can tell, and just recognize URLs in a text file. All those added in the comments don't do that.
are we talking about the same question? the one I cv:ed above talked specifically about extracting from XML
Yes, but doesn't say that those links are contained in specific nodes, so XML parsing gets you nowhere. If you just want all links located in any node anywhere in the document, then an XML parser gets you pretty much nowhere
If you have a well-defined document and know which nodes/attributes contain links it's an entirely different story
13:19
Why don't we just delete it? it's got <4k views and no quality answers in 4 years
:( Still need 550 rep before I can do that
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I've been there before stackoverflow.com/review/close/19000602
it'll go away... btw check questions now :)
@Jean-FrançoisFabre wow cool ty, I'll be attending to what's left after hours :)
13:23
@SmokeDetector both users created today; names look like they might come from the same country/language region. Spam setup?
I recently posted 2 cv requests. The questions were active again only because I removed some tags. Is that allowed BTW?
@SmokeDetector @Jean-FrançoisFabre "Hayk Ghazoyan - Managing partner - GlobalR.com | LinkedIn"
okay, spam. Nuke it.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre No, that's not allowed I'm afraid
ok, so maybe some RO can bin my 2 last requests (too bad as the questions are very off-topic)
13:30
@StephenKennedy Well, editing purely with the intention of making them active isn't allowed, not sure about it happening just because it was needed
@NickA Not sure I understand. To clarify my point, ofc JFF is allowed to edit but that recent activity alone doesn't make them eligible for cv-pls
Morning
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Done
13:36
@StephenKennedy I mean, under rule 27:"Edit an old question that's not currently "active" to qualify it, under FAQ #11, as active, thus allowing you to make a cv-pls request for an old question" - This didn't happen as the intention wasn't to edit them so they could be cv-pls'd, they were just edited and also got a cv-pls after
@NickA The idea is we don't want people editing them so they show as recently active and then posting a CV. We've had some people do that to actively skirt the recent activity rule
13:56
Waffles
Update on this request. It's no longer "No repro" but is a typo as per the answer. Same close reason applies.
@Machavity @NickA and therefore, I assume, intent doesn't matter - it's hard rule no exceptions?
@StephenKennedy Our goal is to be beyond reproach. Even if we know there was no aim to skirt the rule, we still don't allow it because others might point to it later as an example of gaming the system
@Machavity Yes, I thought so and have no problem with it, just wished for clarification. Thanks for providing it.
14:13
I edited to remove the tag, then saw it was too broad 😀 but that doesn't count I suppose.
erm about we have this locked post I can't edit out tag of: stackoverflow.com/questions/1195868/…
rest of those are pretty edited out.
@Machavity Yep, makes sense, thanks for the clarification
@Jean-FrançoisFabre on the contrary, being part of a burn makes them eligible for a cv-pls (although if there are many you queued up better to post a link to the queue)
imho if it's just those 2, they are eligible for cv-pls
@Jean-FrançoisFabre roomba forecaster says 4 days? Otherwise modflag I suppose. It doesn't have much (if any) value imo
user10976548
What is roomba? I'm assuming it is some sort of software nickname that cleans stuff up?
14:21
@Vakore Pretty much. Sweeps up certain closed questions after a set period of time.
user10976548
Ok, ty.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre if they're still open later I'll deal with it one way or another :) so, on to other business :)
@Compass TIL about: CatBoost :)
14:41
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Q: Blacklist the [priority] tag

smileycreations15The priority tag seems to be resurfacing with 122 questions. The original completed burninate request can be found here. The request is completed, but the tag is created again and needs to be blacklisted.

40 seconds, not bad
15:04
^ worth spam flagging that one?
Yeah one of the sites is their own, and whole post only advertises for their services. Flagged.
@MichaelDodd yes, fair enough
I've considered flagging as well, but then I just piled on the existing closevote.
@JohnDvorak It got spam nuked in the end
Fair
Though I do suppose there should be harsher punishment for the big pharma guys than for the "hey, I've made a library" ones.
(1305*) WHAT HAPPENED WHILE I WAS GONE
15:15
@Compass stuff
1305 new messages, at least one of which at-mentioned you directly or was a reply to a message of yours
=w=
skips
@JohnDvorak he wants free developers to help build his Craigslist rival :/
Yeah, that's definitely worse than "check out my free library"
and the -100 penalty doesn't matter a jot to somebody who will contribute nothing to the site
15:17
@StephenKennedy Until they get question-banned much sooner
@MichaelDodd wipes away the tears
@Compass We needed advice from an expert on nacho fries
@JohnDvorak huh? I though 'help' was no longer allowed in a question title?
Zoe
Zoe
@Adriaan eh...
That was "problem", and I think it's undisallowed now
Zoe
Zoe
15:18
It's somewhat more complicated than that
I was editing this one post and removed in Android Studio from the title, and the "the title cannot contain <the entire title here>" error popped up. Pretty sure it's a lot more than just a word blacklist
I have a $1E6 idea - instead of disallowing certain words in titles, let them make the question eligible for one-CV closing
@JohnDvorak all those words are only disallowed when the title is less than a certain character length
cc @Zoe
huh, weird
Zoe
Zoe
That makes sense
once you pass a certain character limit, the words are allowed again
15:21
@Zoe I'm sure about 50% of my edits have involved removing from questions
Zoe
Zoe
It's also made some tag burnination hell if there's included editing
I forget exactly where it is but I'm sure Shog has said somewhere in a Meta post
Zoe
Zoe
@MichaelDodd Most of my recent edits are for that too, although I'm starting on as well.
I leave comments too, and quite a few people (including some relatively high-rep users) replied and said they didn't know, even though it's written in the tag wiki...
@Zoe I have a theory very few people read the tag excerpts...
@MichaelDodd I don't have theories, I have proof
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Zoe
Zoe
15:27
@MichaelDodd I have a currently mainly proven theory most people don't read anything that doesn't cause a notification and that isn't visible (which includes edit summaries, tag excerpts, pretty much anything that isn't directly targeted at the poster and is in plain sight)
@JohnDvorak Too me a while to find, but if you haven't already you should read this proposal from Shog meta.stackoverflow.com/a/374490/397817
What is a "programming related SEO question"?
nacho fries - not bad
but just.. fries with cheese sauce
@Zoe what's a "tag wiki"?
Zoe
Zoe
Generally, /tags/<some tag>/info. Example
15:32
@Zoe OK I wasn't actually being serious, but it seems from my experience that most ppl don't know that they exist
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Zoe
@StephenKennedy oh xd
@TylerH People have come to know fileless URL structures as "SEO URLs". Also, if the SEO is meta to the question
Zoe
Zoe
my best guess is that the tag suggestions are to blame. Some of the new users are probably more likely to write "how do I do X in IDE", and SO then suggests IDE as a tag to add
@Compass isn't that called poutine in Canada
@Zoe that sounds like a proper use of the IDE tag to add in that case
Zoe
Zoe
15:34
@StephenKennedy Most of the tag wikis are so good I can't find anything to edit ^^" Getting 50 must be hard o-o
@TylerH ah, but not really
or do you mean "IDE" literally and not as a placeholder for whatever IDE they're using?
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Zoe
Because most of the users use that as if the IDE in question is the only place you can do that
@Zoe it doesn't matter if it is or not, if they're trying to do it in that IDE then that's a fine question and one that should be answered (and tagged with that IDE)
Zoe
Zoe
It's not "How do I display line numbers in IDE", it's "How do I fix this exception in IDE" when the exception is in the code. There's a base misunderstanding on that too
@Zoe okay, that's a different situation than your first topic
Zoe
Zoe
15:35
@TylerH But it's still independent of the IDE
fixing an exception is a code-based problem
Zoe
Zoe
it doesn't just stop at exceptions
but if they want to know how to do some feature of an IDE in that IDE, that's always a valid question
Zoe
Zoe
yeah, that should be tagged with the relevant IDE tag
like "how do I comment out lines of code in Eclipse" you can comment lines of code without using Eclipse but Eclipse also probably has a "comment line(s)" button or shortcut
Zoe
Zoe
15:36
But most of the questions are on how to do something in code in the IDE without it being directly related to features of the IDE aside basic editing
yes, that's a scenario of a faulty premise
Zoe
Zoe
Here is a perfect example too
@TylerH Well played, comic strip. Well played...
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Zoe
The point being that it's based on the language itself, but some of the new coders think that means all the power is in the IDE while it in reality is independent. The tag suggestions likely don't help either, but that's more speculation
15:40
@Zoe tsk, leaving that title...
@Machavity that's 4 not out then a leg before wicket
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Zoe
Eh, titles are the absolutely worst part of editing
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@StephenKennedy Is that only true when Bob's your uncle?
@Machavity no, you have to be as happy as Larry
@Zoe True, you have to know the question before you can write the title... which is why I always recommend writing the title last.
Zoe
Zoe
15:54
Yeah
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
@TylerH Shog has stated before he dislikes that type of system as there is no way to know if your vote will be the final vote.
Not sure if that is really an issue though
@NathanOliver why does it matter if you know that?
and yes you would know
you can look at the last person to do the delete-edit and see what badge they have (though it really should just show it in the revisions page next to the user (like it does for gold badge dupe hammering)
or, better yet, the system can look much faster and just tell you "hey, if you vote to delete-edit this, it will just delete it, because it's [met the threshold](link to how the system works])
Not sure that it does. In this case you could probably know but in cases like close votes all you know is the number of votes already cast
I'd keep it simpler, and just restrict it to silver and gold holders with equal weight
bronze is easy to pick up if you post a lot. silver+ shows some level of expertise.
but whatever the details, I think that Shog's proposal there is one of the best I've ever seen on SO
15:59
@StephenKennedy I don't think the ability of bronze badge holders to do this is an issue for a few reasons: you can't use the feature again if you've already done it, and OP can unilaterally undo your deletion by editing the post
@StephenKennedy I agree
and it's something that Tim Post also loves it
@TylerH but in your version you'd need 3 bronzes to get involved. what I'm saying is, if 1 bronze can't be trusted restrict it to silver+.
@StephenKennedy no, you'd need 3 bronze badge holders to truly delete (rather than delete + edit), which is how shog's proposal currently works for all badge holders, even gold
I'm saying "make it more powerful for silver and gold badge holders"
oic. I was thinking of the delete+invite OP edit, which to me is the brilliant part of his idea
@NathanOliver I'm going to shy away from RA but definitely close + del vote
Zoe
Zoe
Tf though? xd
16:03
@NathanOliver Trying hard not to troll them in comments
Zoe
Zoe
@Machavity "Math says no"
I was going to comment that the fact C++ exists proves the earth isn't flat because if it was we wouldn't be here to have created it.
Zoe
Zoe
@Machavity It's PythonScript, not FlatEarthScript :p
@NathanOliver the answer is yes you can
you can use any programming language that supports mathematical functions
16:09
@Machavity Any bets on how many different languages will now be named PythonScript?
@Makyen My URRS didn't auto-update from the version last updated 109 days ago, but I am using ViolentMonkey (not TamperMonkey) and I probably had to install the script manually last time due to githubusercontent being blocked at work at the time
@TylerH Thanks. Good to know. I'll play around with Violentmonkey a bit to see if I can duplicate.
@Makyen I'm waiting for the day that Oracle decides that the Internet is infinging upon their JavaScript trademark
@Machavity How did Oracle end up with a Netscape trademark? I guess Sun bought Netscape at some point?
Zoe
Zoe
I think so
16:17
@StephenKennedy Netscape shifted to Java so it could be cross-platform. I don't think Sun ever owned NS, but it was one of their big success stories early on in trying to win Java converts
reading en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape hasn't helped ease my headache. seems like a complicated web (no pun intended)
oh there we go, a part of a Netscape--Sun joint venture ended up with Sun
@SurajRao @gre_gor @Machavity @Makyen @River @EJoshuaS The Meta @SurajRao linked uses a question we closed a year ago as an example of an upvoted closed question.
oh and I know the answer to that Q :) Docker for Windows needs Hyper-V and Hyper-V cannot coexist with VMWare or VirtualBox
16:30
@StephenKennedy Wanting to answer an off-topic question? We're going to have tear up your membership card...
@Machavity Well I could answer it on SuperUser couldn't I? :)
which ofc is the answer to that meta too - sure it's a fine question, just not for SO
user10976548
We could always answer off-topic questions with the answer '42'
Well 42 is the answer to everything so why only OT questions?
brb man from the council is here with a bulldozer
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user10976548
Because people who have on-topic questions are smart enough to know that already. Off-Topics usually are in a state of confusion, and need to be reminded.
@StephenKennedy that's good to know
I have a home server that users Hyper-V and I was considering installing VirtualBox to toy around with it
I guess it makes perfect sense if you consider the paradigm with webservers -- you can't have IIS running on a server along with things like XAMPP; they'll conflict
16:36
@Vakore Idk, SO is not exactly easy to comprehend and there are so many off-topic questions that its understandable that ppl don't know they're posting off-topic. Pretty sure I posted a General Computing Q myself in the early days.
@TylerH My vague understanding is something aiong the lines of Hyper-V being a different kind of hypervisor to the other 2, more like a bare metal hypervisor; if I understand correctly, it actually loads up your Windows itself using virtualization
user10976548
@StephenKennedy That's why I said reminded, or enlightened. :)
What you can do in theory is run Hyper-V inside VMWare Workstation or Player as that supports pass-through virtualization (i.e. it virtualises the Intel virtualisation features) but I've not had any luck with Docker for Windows inside VMWare. I keep Hyper-V turned off now and run Docker in a Linux VM.
@TylerH What do you use the Hyper-V for, if you don't mind me asking?
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy Isn't it for performance on emulated systems?
@Vakore But you also implied I'm not smart :( Perhaps you meant I have appalling sense dress, in which case I'll concede the point :)
@Zoe Yeah, I just wondered about specific use cases as I've never used it, other than trying to get Docker for Windows to work
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16:45
I suppose in theory I could use it instead of VMware for my Windows and Ubuntu VMs?
@StephenKennedy I run an Ubuntu Server OS in a VM; I use the Ubuntu Server OS as a dedicated host for some Steam games with a small group of friends where having a dedicated server is useful
e.g. ARK: Survival Evolved
^^ yee can be done for a good variety of Steam games nowadays ^^ Not sure if any servers really use IIS/Windows Servers (god I hope not) for a lot of games.
@treyBake Windows Servers are typically a lot better for performance, feature support, etc., they just cost a lot of money
of course you can pay money to get support for Ubuntu Server as well (and I'm sure others -- Ubuntu is not a common distro for server OSes even in Linux-only mixes)
@Makyen And Shog9 reopened it
you get IIS and Hyper-V in Windows 10 Pro too, so it's not as if you have to pay thousands for it
16:57
@TylerH meh, I've found them to be nothing but headaches, personally I go for CentOS for servers as that's a sexy OS
@StephenKennedy oh, damn
but UbunutuOS is defos on the rise, think it's starting to overtake CentOS which.. surprised me
You mean I didn't need to get Windows Server 2019 after all :-)
@treyBake Don't ask me for linux advice, I run Ubuntu Server but I downloaded the full GUI experience for it :-P
@TylerH I hope you're joking?
by default is it CLI-only
16:58
@Machavity Yeah. My issue with it is that it really doesn't appear that the question contains enough information to duplicate the problem. The various answers taking different stabs at system configuration answers tends to indicate there's incomplete information in the question.
@TylerH nooo the CLI is where the real funs at
@StephenKennedy Sort of - I have Windows Server 2019 but I also have an MSDN license so I didn't pay for Windows Server 2019 itself
but the whole reason for me running this home server this way (rather than just paying for an AWS instance or DigitalOcean droplet) was so I could learn more about server management and VMs
@Makyen I gave the answer up above, just the tag combo windows + docker and the mention of virtualization is enough
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