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@jhpratt why you post that ^. I don't see any recent activity on that. Script show last activity -> '2 years, 8 months ago'
 
@Shree thank you
 
 
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7:28 AM
Morning all
 
\o
 
8:17 AM
Autoflagged FP: flagged by @SmokeDetector, @Floern, @Magisch, @Federico
 
9:09 AM
o/
 
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10:41 AM
@IslamElshobokshy ^ I don't see any recent activity on that post . Am I missing some thing ?
 
10:58 AM
@Shree a post needs to have a recent activity to be reported if it doesn't fit the rules?
 
@IslamElshobokshy See FAQ section Generally I follow the rule : 'Never wake up sleeping dog unless it's bark'
 
Got it, sorry :-)
 
11:18 AM
@IslamElshobokshy You can ping any RO to trash that request and Retract your flag if you think it's a mistake.
 
11:42 AM
Can any 10k users verify if this question and this one are identical? Specifically the linked image
First one has been deleted so I can't check, but I remember seeing that image earlier this morning and suspect sock puppeting
 
@MichaelDodd Yup, image is identical, slightly more text on the second
 
@ErikA But different users?
 
Indeed. this user posted the first one
 
@ErikA Cheers, I'll modflag then
 
Is this how people earn reputation in Stack Overflow? :P
 
11:49 AM
@double-beep I'd roll back that question, and modflag if that user has done it more than once
 
they would lose that once that post gets deleted. (Highly likely to be deleted)
 
@MichaelDodd They have, and it was approved under same circumstances both times
 
@NickA Definite modflag then
 
No need to rollback. I would just mod-flag.
 
One got an approve vote by a reviewer, hope they get smacked with a ban -.-
 
11:51 AM
ok, I have mod-flagged that.
 
@NickA Not suggesting an edit ban, but more of a poke from a mod to say "that's not how edits work"
 
@double-beep That's not some sort of rep hack, it's just to bypass the 50 rep comment requirement. Better than just posting an NAA answer imo, but still bad.
 
@MichaelDodd I meant the 13k reviewer that voted to approve
 
@NickA Ah ok, definitely a ban for that reviewer, that's a blatent reject.
 
The whole rep requirement for comments is a necessary evil, it's a pretty bad user experience but else mods have to do overwork on removing bad comments
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11:54 AM
Seems the flag queue is overloaded today :-)
 
 
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1:33 PM
Morning
 
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Is this NAA?
 
@double-beep Certainly not, it's a valid answer to a typo question. Typo questions generally shouldn't be answered, though.
 
@double-beep It's an answer IMO, but it's pointing out a typo so I'd question its overall worth (higer-rep users should know better though)
@double-beep Been deleted now (I'm guessing by a mod as the comment chain got deleted first)
 
Yep.
 
1:44 PM
@SurajRao And by almost sheer coincidence: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/380316/…
 
@SurajRao 2 undeletes...
 
2:04 PM
@Machavity complete f? Not a 'good that you caught the word, no flagging need though' response (whatever the shortcut for that may be)
 
@Adriaan The standard Charcoal runs on is that if the bad words can be edited out, it's false. You sustain it if the bad words are the message
 
@Machavity Best way I can sum it up is "Is it abusive? TP. Is it frustration and not being used as an insult? FP"
 
And in that case, i think it was an unfortunate typo
@MichaelDodd That's a good way to put it
 
@Machavity looks to be, yes. The thing was riddled with typos, so might well be. Oh well, let someone more versed in Python than me edit that back in if necessary
 
@Adriaan rule of thumb: it is only a true positive when you flag it.
 
2:22 PM
Hello All
 
@Android Please don't spam a single question to every single chatroom you could find. They have been flagged as spam and will be removed.
 
3:11 PM
@eyllanesc what is the typo? OP says that doesn't fix the error
 
@TylerH Then the OP must provide a [mcve]
 
in SOCVR comment list I think the language please section needs to be available for questions as well...
 
3:28 PM
@StephenKennedy back in my day I used to earn stars left and right (cc @rene). Standards definitely have been lowered... more people are earning stars these days :-P
@eyllanesc fair enough :-)
 
nvm got deleted as I posted
 
@treyBake Spam should be flagged, not closed
it'll get auto-deleted by the community with enough spam flags
(the room tag for that is [tag:flag-pls] but you can also report to Smokey if it has not been reported yet (in this case it was already detected a couple lines above)
 
@TylerH ahh I see, didn't know that! Ok thank you :)
 
flagging also has the benefit of us not spending our precious few close votes per day (though if a question is closed and deleted before the end of the UTC day I believe we get the close vote back)
It would probably be of less concern if we got, say 100 close votes per day...
 
3:38 PM
I would be more concerned... about your health spending all those votes...
 
@PetterFriberg okay Shog...
an entirely trumped up concern IMO
 
meh, it's a lot of reviewing to spend 100 cv...
 
@PetterFriberg I regularly have to choose where I contribute each day - here or the CV Queue. It'd be nice to be able to do both
 
I would like more weight to my votes instead, specially if I vote in tags that I know.
 
Morning all /o
 
3:41 PM
Then also some rep to people that find good duplicates...
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@PetterFriberg Por que no los dos?
@PetterFriberg except not for when you mjolnir a question as that'd be too easy to abuse
(and would be a way to unilaterally self-award rep)
 
Shog had talked about 2 points when OP accepted dupes... lets see in 6-8 :)
 
4:41 PM
workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/128981/… this is a very sad thread, after the edit :-(
 
@TylerH sad for that company :), lets hope happy for the employee...
 
@PetterFriberg perhaps... I'm sure they'll be happier now than recently under that new CEO, but happier than they were before the new policy? Who knows
Let's hope the board or whoever ousts that CEO after having to comply with a multi-million (or billion, depending on the size of the company) ADA lawsuit
 
@TylerH Yeah, that's just... really bad, particularly in California.
 
@Zoe not sure maybe it can reworded, but probably unclear or mcve
 
Zoe
yeah, it's also requesting tutorials though. There's one NAA and one that probably could be a comment
 
4:54 PM
@Makyen yeah I saw that state tag and was like "seriously?! of all states?"
 
@TylerH Yeah, terrible choices on the part of the company. About the only thing which might save the company is if it has very few employees, but the structure of the company that's implied by the question would indicate they are way above where that might help them.
 
5:41 PM
@TylerH my brother in law is facing something similar. Not sure why people end non problematic WFH policy
 
@Machavity ingrained culture from the past somewhere I'm guessing
 
hah, in one my friends company, the manager tried to enforce a no WFH policy. His plan back fired when all employees threatened to quit
 
Damn, read that post. Sad stuff.
 
6:00 PM
@BhargavRao Yeah, it's really unfortunate for the people affected. I hope they end up in better positions elsewhere, with minimal disruption to their lives. From a business POV, it's just insane, for many reasons.
 
Yeah, fingers crossed.
Some good stuff from that link ... TWP is having elections, and looks like @Magisch is running! Good luck.
 
A business's culture, spirit, milieu and ambiance come from the top, and this one is headed in the wrong direction. I agree with the advice that the question asker should start looking himself.
 
True. I settled for a lower paying job, just because the company culture was more laid back.
 
Yep, the entire situation matters. While money is a significant part of it, it's certainly not the only thing. For many people, particularly for the type of personalities that tend to excel at programming/engineering, it's often not the primary motivator, beyond "enough" money to be comfortable in their current life (and sometimes less than that).
 
6:20 PM
@BhargavRao thank you
 
@BhargavRao TWP?
 
@Machavity The Workplace I'm guessing workplace.stackexchange.com/election?cb=1
 
Yeah, that ... ^
Just to differentiate between Workplace and WordPress, they call Workplace as TWP.
 
@BhargavRao honestly I was more confused by TWP thinking it was "The WordPress?"
Because Workplace is just W
 
Cool, a site where I have enough rep to vote
 
6:48 PM
Abbreviating single words is fun... :p
 
@BhargavRao You mean pressing words is fun ;)
 
@BhargavRao probably just as easy to type Work.SE
(which they should definitely re-direct to workplace.stackexchange.com)
 
That's usually done for Information Security..
It's referred to as Sec.SE
 
I'd do InfoSec.SE
There will probably be a non-infosec Security SE site which should rather have Sec.SE
 
So you read SE as "ess ee", rather than "see"?
Reading like that kinda ruins the shortened form ... :(
 
6:52 PM
I read the letters
 
@BhargavRao yeah ess ee
"Seck dot Ess Ee"
 
Yeah... you shouldn't do that..
 
Read "ess ee" as "see", and drop the dot..
 
Can't do it. Wakanda "Seck dot Ess Ee" forever
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7:02 PM
Grrr...
 
@BhargavRao I get it. You want it to be sexy ;)
 
I kinda knew that you guys were playing with me ... :D
 
7:21 PM
probably ok
 
Tim Post has answered the question about the 'leaks' saying that he feels... continuation here.
 
Zoe
7:55 PM
Does anyone else get periodic conversion for GitHub-style code formatting to four-space formatting along with slightly broken backtick removal with the magic editor?
 
@BhargavRao Sec.SE: Where Shog6 is permanently memorialized
 
@Magisch Good luck in the moderator election on The Workplace.
@Zoe Could you provide an/some example(s)?
 
Zoe
that's the thing, I've seen this on a couple posts, and intentional reproduction in the sandbox failed. I'll bring up the last one I saw it on though, one sec
This one (direct link to edit)
pay attention to the first code block specifically
wait, hold on
derp xd Forgot to clean up everything there
okay, there
 
@Zoe Looks malformed to me. There are 3 sets of 3 back-ticks.
 
Zoe
If you now edit and run magic editor, it should indent the first block, remove two backticks, and indent the last one
@Makyen yeah, that's an accident from the first round... Left out some stuff after I ran it because I missed it .-.
Brought it back to a "breakable" state with proper GH-style formatting
Not entirely sure why that happens either...
Sandbox reproduction failed, even with two blocks, so there's likely some special trigger for it
 
8:13 PM
Do note that MagicEditor has not been updated since the GitHub style code fencing went live. Thus, conversions to four space code-indent was desirable as of the last time it was updated. (Still checking the example.)
 
Zoe
nvm, read that has "has been" xd
 
@Zoe I was able to duplicate the problems you mentioned in the example you provided. Thanks. I can confirm that it didn't properly remove the backticks in your example, but did properly add 4 spaces to both code blocks. While conversion away from GitHub style used to be desired, it's no longer desirable (i.e. we should not enforce one style over the other). MagicEditor should be/will be updated to leave GitHub style code blocks alone, similarly to how it handles indented code-blocks.
 
Zoe
oki. Thanks for taking a look at it ^^
 
np. Thanks for reporting it and providing an example.
 
Zoe
No problem
 
9:14 PM
Night all \o
 
9:38 PM
@SurajRao interresting!
 
 
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11:26 PM
@IslamElshobokshy This question is not "no MCVE". It's not a debugging question. It's a "how to" question. The "no MCVE" reason only applied to debugging questions. Only debugging questions require code. No other question type requires code (Homework questions require an attempt, which usually means code). Other types of questions are commonly "too broad" or "unclear". Adding code can often narrow or clarify the question significantly, but code isn't required and "no MCVE" doesn't apply.
For this specific question, while I'd like to see a bit of code in the question to frame it a bit better, it does not appear to be too broad or unclear. I'm also not thrilled with what's effectively multiple questions, but the questions are tightly coupled, so having them in one Question isn't too bad, IMO.
 

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