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12:38 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Can you edit that dupe target list to include the second link I posted? It includes the final missing information that std::cout rounds floating point numbers
 
@Justin done
 
Ty
 
 
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2 hours later…
 
6:49 AM
 
@SurajRao no clue about that issue, but lets trust OP..
 
8:15 AM
Wow... This guy agreed he's a spammer! LoL.
I'm spamming because I don't want to copy and paste the article i wrote. LOL, you're comical. I'll edit it just for you so you can feel better. — CodebyRay 2 mins ago
 
o/
 
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@rene missing closing curlybrace, sytax error.
 
}
fixed
 
8:57 AM
@kayess I thought it was a hello after a workout
 
Morning all \o
 
@Vega lol nice
 
morning all
 
9:39 AM
 
As @Compass and @halfer will attest to, some cats like to bring mice home. Some link to bring birds.
This morning my cat proudly brought home a slice of stale bread.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
That's so funny! I have heard that it's a reward for the owner
 
Maybe she thought you're hungry
 
Well, stale bread is still a lot more edible than a mouse I guess...
 
@Vega Well, me and my wife normally have salami on toast for breakfast, so he could be trying to bring us breakfast
@ErikvonAsmuth Lot easier to clean up too
 
9:45 AM
Easier to catch as well!
 
Or he brought his bread expecting that you would provide the salami? ;)
 
@Vega knowing him, probably :P
 
Our cat once brought a complete cod-fish. It was bigger then he was so it was a struggle to get it home and the back neighbor (a fisherman) wasn't too happy about it. My mom chopped it, put in the freezer and our cat ate from it for the next 3 weeks...
 
@MichaelDodd Fleas, at the moment. I will be getting some treatment for her today :-)
 
Not a request, but just posting it here because I'm astonished. A proper self-answered Q&A post that looks legit. Can't find any sources of plagiarism, and looks like it's deservedly getting upvotes.
 
9:57 AM
@MichaelDodd maybe see if adding attribution can save it?
 
And another place copied without attribution :(
Possibly, I'll hold off the flag for now and leave a comment. Large portions of the post are copied, but there's some original material in there
 
@MichaelDodd too broad or maybe General Hardware I'd say
besides, something, something abuse of bold formatting
 
@Adriaan It may be of interest to those who develop for AOSP (of which I'm one of those developers)
 
@jww is that because you ran into it or because you saw it discussed here?
 
jww
Hi @Rene. My apologies, I'm disconnected from the thread. What were we discussing?
 
10:05 AM
@jww it was brought up here and there seem to be other "issues" with it as well
 
Can anyone confirm if this question is spam? (Check the link)
 
@AndréKool I'd go with yes
 
@AndréKool yes
 
jww
@Rene, I did not see the previous discussion. It made my radar because I follow the tag. I moved against it because the question was gathering upvotes.
 
@jww OK, that is fine. I was just wondering, that is all.
 
10:09 AM
Thanks for taking a look.
 
10:32 AM
@PetterFriberg Why not just flag? It seems appropriate, and one of the commenters implies he's already flagged it
 
beeh not sure I want to red flag it.. a good 20K delete is fine with me..
@ErikvonAsmuth hmm maybe yeah a custom mod flag would be fine to delete all answers from that user
 
@PetterFriberg I've flagged it rude/abusive and it's gathered enough auto-flags to be deleted. Custom flag not needed imo, if he's a repeat offender it will raise an autoflag.
 
@PetterFriberg I red-flagged because of the malicious command rm -rf /
 
I raised a custom flag to delete all answer :), it's clearly just a troll
 
rm -rf / is just a myth nowadays, it only works in really rare conditions.
(see this post on unix and linux, I'm not encouraging trying it)
 
10:43 AM
@ErikvonAsmuth True, the malicious intent is still there though.
 
11:04 AM
:43816311 That's a fp, but amused they got away with that username on github
 
11:16 AM
Quick question: How to handle a duplicate question in the best way? (stll a bit new) this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/52165026/… is answered in this post: stackoverflow.com/a/2792790/5309807
(Hope this is not the complete wrong channel to ask this)
 
@MarkusMauksch Well, it has already been deleted in the mean time, nothing to do anymore
 
This is a good chat to ask such questions, though
 
Normally you just flag it as duplicate :), see the flag link under the/a question
when you get to 3000 rep you can close vote it.
 
Oh ok. So duplicate flag and the link to the answer?
 
11:19 AM
Yeah when you select duplicate it will make you search for a question, if you already know question, post the question link in search box, then select it
Hence we duplicate question to other question, not to other answer...
 
Ok thank you :) Is there a specific channel for this kind of noobish questions / discussion
 
You are fine here (as long as it has to do with moderation type questions)
 
Yeah kind of lurking to get a feel for what is a bad question and gets shredded^^
 
@MarkusMauksch ooh yeah if it already have duplicate vote it will show the question as you try to flag, if not once you suggest a duplicate it will leave an automatic comment see this for example stackoverflow.com/questions/52161669/…
@MarkusMauksch keep your own parameters what is good an whats is bad, don't trust anyone ;)
 
@MarkusMauksch you can ask questions about moderation here in this room, specially if you ask them the way you did. Beyond that we have our FAQ and Meta as source for guidance.
 
11:26 AM
@MartinJames Seems 2 members of the same class... They even both tagged it java
 
maybe because java is pretty popular so lots of people watch the tag
 
11:47 AM
(still haven't gotten around to asking for SD privileges yet. One day...)
 
this looks like spam/selfpromotion to me: stackoverflow.com/questions/52165600/…
 
@Vickel Yeah already requested for flags earlier. Looks like spam to me because of the username/bio
 
12:08 PM
 
12:36 PM
Morning
 
afternoon
 
that ^
 
Good ^
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
12:44 PM
@tripleee what is your quarrel with this one?
 
@rene @NathanOliver I'd like to apply for SD privileges for SOCVR, if possible. Did apply in Charcoal HQ, but apparently I need to ask directly here
 
I've posted your request in the backroom. The RO team will inform you of their verdict in 6 to 8 ....
 
@rene Cheers, hopefully the coffee machine will be working again by then :)
 
1:01 PM
@MarkusMauksch setting up LXD is more of a Server Fault / SuperUser / Unix&Linux topic than a programming topic
@MichaelDodd feel free to create a Github issue for SmokeDetector once you have approval github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/issues
 
@tripleee oh. that makes sense
 
merged
 
thanks
 
@rene @tripleee Cheers :)
 
1:08 PM
should be live now
 
They didn't give you a lot of time to get that coffee machine working though
 
!!/coffee
 
@tripleee brews a cup of Cappuccino for @tripleee
 
@ErikvonAsmuth There's enough tea to tide me over :)
 
^ see, it works now
a bit late in the PM for me, and I hate milk in my coffee ... any takers?
 
1:10 PM
sure
 
1:36 PM
morning
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by SmokeDetector
@MichaelDodd: It seems this is your first time sending feedback to SmokeDetector. Make sure you've read the guidance on your privileges, the available commands, and what feedback to use in different situations.
 
@SmokeDetector could use a " If you have a new question, please ask one" comment
 
@Adriaan done, and deleted
 
@Mithrandir I'm disappointed there was not a full "clippy" reference there.
 
@Mithrandir Already done prior to requesting, but thanks for relaying the message
 
1:51 PM
@MichaelDodd a good tip is to use - or short commands like n, f,k, v when providing feedback, that way you reduce the noise in chat (the - tells SD to not reply)
 
@PetterFriberg Cheers
 
if you are unsure that it worked or not you can check the MS link, hovering over the feedback indicates names
 
O_o
 
1:56 PM
o¯0
 
.._..
 
ם_ם
 
°_°
 
Nice facetrain up there...
 
2:37 PM
@RiggsFolly you had me refresh chat... :)
 
Is code in image a good enough reason to withhold an answer as comment?
 
 
3:23 PM
Missing train every friggin time... :sob:
 
Sounds like you should pick up a train schedule
 
Zoe
Hiya
 
hi :)
 
so whats the discussion here?
 
3:33 PM
it is about moderation of posts on SO proper
We have an external website socvr.org that explains how we came to existence and what we do here on a daily basis
 
@MrKovalKoval the current topic up for debate is what the best weed-killer for vague plants is
Starts running
 
@Adriaan Are pink elephants quick runners?
 
@MichaelDodd quicker flyers
slower than an average human, although fast enough to outrun a flower
5
 
4:54 PM
^ chrome is asking if I want to translate that page from Vietnamese
 
who knew JSON and Pickle were Vietnamese...
 
Further proof that Python is a foreign concept to me
 
5:23 PM
@PearlySpencer Please do not ask cv-pls on questions you have a stake in. You answered, albeit deleted by now, which counts as a stake.
 
user8682794
@Adriaan what do you mean i have a stake in? The answer was deleted because no error can be reproduced on said question.
 
@PearlySpencer it's not my definition, ask the ROs
e.g. @NathanOliver can probably tell you why
@SmokeDetector I edited out the email, as it looks like a misguided new user; could be a spam set-up, we'll know soon enough
 
user8682794
sure @NathanOliver, enlight us
 
You have an answer on the post so you have a stake in it. even though it is deleted it still counts for us. We ask that you don't ask for closure on posts you have a stack in.
 
5:26 PM
I can imagine it's because once the post is closed, you can undelete your answer regardless of the closure, and thus have the sole answer
 
user8682794
There is no question man. No one has answered because there is no error given the example data. Nobody can reply. The question is not valid, will just linger there forever. This has nothing to do with my answer.
 
@PearlySpencer my statement was a general one, not specific to your question. I'm not targeting you specifically here, I'm just giving a general observation as to why the rule "do not post cv-pls on questions you have a stake in" hold for deleted answers as well. This is also to avoid the idea of SOCVR being a fraternising voting mob, picking on specific users and preventing others from answering after one of their members has done.
 
user8682794
The entire question should be deleted
 
I'm just explaining the rule. If you would like it revisited you can add it to the next room meeting topics here: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/room-meeting-topics/issues
 
user8682794
i understand the rules but as i said to rene before these should not contradict common sense.
 
5:30 PM
@NathanOliver I'm pretty sure I saw "non-deleted" somewhere in the FAQ...
and a deleted answer isn't really a stake...
No abuse potential = let it be
 
@JohnDvorak rule 15: Do not request action on a post that you have asked or answered, or for an edit which you have made.
 
@JohnDvorak I explained the abuse potential already
 
That same argument applies even if you answer after posting a CV-pls
 
user8682794
what is the tag for deletion? i will put in a new request for deleting the question
 
@JohnDvorak There is abuse potential. We close, the person undeletes their answer. Now they have the sole answer on the closed Q. To avoid something like that happening we just disallow it. There is enough crud out there that we can skip that Q that someone answered and then decided it was unanswerable.
@PearlySpencer You can't ask for deletion until the question is closed.
 
user8682794
5:34 PM
hahaha you guys are unbelievable
 
user8682794
whatever! let it linger
 
That is the way the system (SO) works. You can't delete an open question.
 
@NathanOliver Has that ever happened, via SOCVR or not?
 
IDK. Like I said, if you guys want to debate this make a room meeting topic. I'm not going to argue this. We have a rule, it was violated, I trashed the message.
 
... I knew our last meeting had went too smoothly.
 
5:37 PM
We really didn't have anything controversial in the last one. We'll need to make up for that
 
5:50 PM
Oh, I know of something controversial. Let's allow people to post links to the questions being discussed, without having to precede them with emoji!
Just so that Rene can throw that whole rule out just because it was unclear in one tiny thing
 
@JohnDvorak @rene's quite vague anyway
 
Hey, don't summon it!
 
waves
 
@rene no Frenchies, British (bull-)dogs, or Mericans on the visit-list so far?
 
5:56 PM
nope
 
aww
 
6:16 PM
Just a heads up: Expect rule 15 that is about having a stake in a Q/A to be less tight. We will allow you to have a deleted answer there. The exact wording is part of the publication of the roommeeting rulings later today, if not tomorrow. /cc @Adriaan @JohnDvorak @PearlySpencer
 
@rene aww, we're not allowed to discuss along?
 
Nope, we're done with that
 
6:44 PM
@rene Out of interest, is there a perceived conflict of interest if I raise a cv-pls on a question I have edited? I'd not thought of that before, and I probably do it a lot, since I feel that questions should be edited as a demonstration of good readability even if they are off-topic.
 
no that's not in the FAQ
 
I don't think there's any conflict
but, don't polish turds
 
halfer by now edits all question in jasper-report and I love it!
I'm not sure if he have favorite that tag, if not @halfer you should :)
 
@JohnDvorak I actually do cosmetic edits such as code formatting, grammar and inlining images, before some <2k does and accidentally puts it in the reopen queue
 
@halfer Yes, and no. Just editing the question isn't something that results in you having a conflict of interest. The "edited" wording in the rule was specifically about making requests for people to approve/reject your own edits (added as a result of a prior room meeting about requesting approval of your own tag wiki edits).
However, the room meeting specifically discussed the issue of people using an edit of their own to cause the question to be "active" in order for a question to qualify for a cv-pls. This was clearly decided as not acceptable.
 
6:51 PM
Do 2k edits not trigger reopen?
 
@JohnDvorak I am in two minds about that, since teaching an OP about good technical writing is mostly unrelated to its original quality. I understand the point about lost causes though!
 
Edits from those that have voted to close or flagged the question do not put the question in the reopen queue.
 
@JohnDvorak they do as well, but >2k editors are less likely to edit poo, besides; CV casters won't put it into the reopenen queue
 
@Makyen Ah yes, agree on both of your points. Thanks for the explanations.
 
Interesting
 
6:52 PM
baah let halfer edit if he likes (as long as he is not doing it to avoid the active rule), which he has never done.
 
@PetterFriberg Yeah, for a long while I've not brought anything here that is old, even if it is NATO. Plenty of new stuff to handle.
 
I actually love it when you edit jasper-reports stuff, yeah often it's crap, but at least I can read it...
 
:-)
^ Someone's having a bad day!
 
Yeah Brad delete it
 
To be fair, I get tempted to make a similar post saying extremely rude things about recruiters, at least once a week.
It may be unwelcome spam, but by god it's therapeutic :=)
 
7:01 PM
Personally I would not flag that stuff as rude, it is not really offending anyone... I would just close it.
if you like some fun look at this old post revision stackoverflow.com/posts/770560/revisions specially 18,19,23 etc, old times when you still could express some anger and some fun.
 
@PetterFriberg Me too!
 
@PetterFriberg Heh, the irony of an elite user bitterly complaining about the elite.
 
I had such a lol at the border-collie stuff and there is more fun, check out the rollback war on the question :) ;D
 
The Matrix references are entertaining and slightly bonkers at the same time :-)
 
@halfer I would say no, when we apply common sense, what most of you seem to like. I've no idea who is going to look after the abuse cases of their common sense but I'll bring that up in the next roommeeting.
 
7:11 PM
@rene Coolio, ta flower!
 
@halfer still it feels honest to flag and delete it as abusive.
Time will fix it, let people complain some...
Do we are really need to abusive flag a user that is pissed off while installing mysql?
 
If it entertains the readers ... is it harming the site, or making it better? If it's making the site better, why do you want to slap it with a -100?
 
@PetterFriberg I'm in two minds - certainly it is good to teach people to manage their anger. I'm less worried about the phenomenon of "offence" to coarse language, but negativity is infectious, and it's not unreasonable to ask people to filter their frustration before asking for help.
I know I can get to a point of wanting to throw the laptop out of the window, but I shouldn't be inflicting that on other folks, IMO
 
@halfer I agree but closing, dv is enough, lets be honest no one of us was really offend,
 
(FWIW I helped that individual on another thread anyway).
@PetterFriberg Yes, unless they had a pattern of it that we've not seen
 
7:19 PM
That's up to mods not us, they will get question banned anyway.
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 23 secs ago, by rene
Yes, I like to be the first when it comes to creating chaos
 
I just knew if you sharpened the blurry avatar you'd get: vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/b/b8/…
 
Weird. When I tried sharpening it, this is what I got: orig00.deviantart.net/385a/f/2016/224/2/f/…
 
@rene time to update your blog.. darn last post is 2010.... anyway I like the "Alive and Kicking" entry...
 
7:30 PM
give me 48 hours in a day ...
 
Link or it didn't happen... @PetterFriberg @rene
Excited to check out your blog.
Is it the GitHub one?
 
Ha ha... :D
Saw that... 2010 post.
 
I wish I had that old stuff still up
I did some fancy flash stuff.. but yeah it's all gone...
 
@PetterFriberg Wow...
 
7:38 PM
@rene What do you think about stackoverflow.com/a/51867391/1849664?
Same user, tempted to nuke
 
yeah, I saw and checked it. That was spam for sure, I wasn't convinced on this last post, so only flagged as NAA
 
@PetterFriberg hasn't blogged since 2010, and the pictures on Sao Miguel are dead :(
 
k, thanks
 
@Adriaan I might have those still ... somewhere ...
 
@rene the blogs from post-2010? :P
 
7:42 PM
No, the images :p
 
@rene text as image? You sure?
 
you get lost, ok?
 
@rene Lost on the next train to the East? :D
 
any train will do
Sprinter, IC, you name it
 
any train to Rotterdam or Den Haag, get the IC to Groningen/Leeuwarden, get out a bit sooner, walk some 10 minutes...
 
Will any of you be online in about 7 hours or so (3:00 UTC)? I'm trying to get to disappear, that's when the unused tag deletion script runs, and questions were coming in at less than one an hour, but chances are pretty good someone will post one again and make the tag persist. For me, that will be at 5 AM, so if someone else could check and retag just before the cleanup runs that would be perfect
2
 
pinned it for the day
I'm in your timezone so don't count on me.
 
@PetterFriberg Too bad Facebook was already around for a few years in 2006 :-(
 
not maybe I guess only 2... so yeah rene should have invested :)
 
Thanks! I guess I'm not dedicated enough yet to wake up in the middle of the night to burninate a tag
 
8:00 PM
@ErikvonAsmuth I wonder if we can use Burnaki to keep track of this stuff...
 
It could in the past
 
I don't have a clue how I would go about and get it running. Second attempt, if a third fails I'm probably just going to try and get it blacklisted using meta
 
@ErikvonAsmuth yeah it works :), you need to clean 1 question.. chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/43822385#43822385
I'm outputting new questions in SOBotics... lot of message over there... but still
we could output these stuff in SOCVR in the future if RO's agree.
 
8:30 PM
@Adriaan the first picture of Sao Miguel has been salvaged
 
9:54 PM
@MartinJames How do Typo, general computing and server related apply?
Or wasn't it a challenge to find a close reason that doesn't fit?
 
 
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11:23 PM
This was closed here, and has been edited to include code. Does anyone wish to take a view on a reopen? stackoverflow.com/posts/52174394/revisions
Me, I am off to bed. 'Night all \o
 
@halfer Still too broad imo, but maybe "unclear" works, too
 
@toohonestforthissite Coolio, I've not voted, might peek tomorrow if I remember
 
@halfer "… the secrests of …" says all imo.
 

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