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5:40 AM
@ekad how come this didn't get roomba'd?
 
oh thanks, it's no longer visible as accepted on the deleted post
wait, are we talking about the same post? shouldn't the accept be visible on the timeline then? stackoverflow.com/posts/32750555/timeline
 
I posted the link to the timeline of the answer.. not sure an accept is shown in question timeline or not
 
ohhh, right, thanks, I didn't know that
 
 
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8:13 AM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre why no roomba?
 
@tripleee no roomba because upvoted answer
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre oh right, I was looking at the no sequence point duplicate which should get roomba'd
 
8:35 AM
Morning
 
9:02 AM
@InsaneCat Why not just flag it and let the review queue (or a mod if queue is slow) handle it?
 
user8682794
@InsaneCat you just need to flag this and the queue will take care of it
 
@AndréKool i'm already flagged it
ok got it @AndréKool @PearlySpencer
 
@InsaneCat Good job. Now for the hardest part: Patience (Or is it really so abysmal that it needs to go NOW?)
 
i'm waiting for review queue :) @AndréKool thanx
 
user8682794
@InsaneCat i think the idea of the group here is to take care of things that queues do not handle quickly enough or just neglects to deal with.
 
9:07 AM
Also o/ morning
 
/0\
 
9:42 AM
@Machavity Yeah... he did a bit more research than me and believed it was a direct answer to the question so undeleted it...
 
10:01 AM
 
10:18 AM
@rene Can you please remove my last cv request? That question has been edited to be an MCVE now. Thanks
 
10:33 AM
\o
 
o/
 
10:48 AM
 
 
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11:49 AM
@Makyen Is this one of those shog official documentation on-topic questions?
 
12:27 PM
stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/20604092 why is an edit like this rejected?
the change it to avoid clicking and going to a new tab to see an image
 
It wouldn't really make the post any better/clearer/contain mcve/etc
 
@MatejMecka it should be closed.. No amount of editing by anyone other than OP will salvage it
also if the edit gets accepted after the post is closed, it gets pushed into the reopen queue which is a waste
 
I asked a question, related to a syntax, because I was not getting it.

https://stackoverflow.com/q/51873488/6891563

A user suddenly marked it duplicate to another question, which does not answer my question.

He (who marked duplicate) had no reason to mark duplicate, he could just give a downvote cause silly question.

Is there a rule on SO, that new comer to any language can not ask things?
 
@MatejMecka to add to what @SurajRao just said: these kind of edits are only acceptable after you have 3k reputation. Being above 2k means your edit is not in the queue, and having 3k means you can close vote, and edits by people who close voted will not push such a question needlessly into the queue.
 
@MatejMecka Because even with the change the question is not worth remaining, you were "polishing a turd" as they say, hence I rejected it.
 
12:35 PM
@Khemraj I often see the suggestion that people are downvoting randomly, or that people are close-voting without a reason. It's likely they do have a reason, and you just don't see it.
 
Afternoon
 
Then they should close with specific reason. But not mark duplicate, It will lead future users to wrong question.
 
@Khemraj I'm having trouble wondering what you're asking, if the duplicate doesn't answer your question you need to edit into your question an explanation as to why it doesn't
Also, afternoon NO
 
@Khemraj In the comments you say "I don't have enough time to learn kotlin in my company", but this does not excuse you from the guidelines. Getting enough time is a problem you (or your company) have to fix.
 
12:38 PM
@NickA I also mentioned that I have seen that question also. But my question was different, he marked duplicate, and none user could answer me. So I could not find a quick solution to my problem.
 
@Khemraj do know that you can ping the user who dupehammered in a comment if you use his full username. I'm not an expert but without seeing what you've implemented from that solution you linked to it still looks as a proper dupe.
 
@Khemraj You mentioned that you'd seen it, not why it doesn't answer your question, at least not in any way that I can understand
 
@halfer Yes I have to fix, but often when I searched for 15 minutes and could not find issue, then I asked.
 
@Khemraj Sure, but your general tone in the comments - and this is helpful feedback - is that you do not need to take any further action ("I don't have enough time to learn", "this is not fair on me", "everyone else is misusing their voting powers"). That is likely to get people to close their ears already. As Nick says, you need to edit your question, to explain why it is not a duplicate.
 
^ "everyone else is misusing their voting powers" - this one especially is likely to grind some gears
 
12:44 PM
(I think you have edited a bit, but my guess is that it won't be sufficient. Not my area though, so it's up to folks who are active in that tag.)
 
Yes you are right, I was using wrong tone. But that was because it was second time, when I asked question again. And user immediately marked question duplicate. I regret of that. But a wrong duplicate mark had lead this all and it lead my question 6 down-votes.

I wanted that user at least once see my request that my question is not duplicate.
He could take back his action when he found my question not duplicate, But there was no one to hear me.
I edited my question

> I have checked **[solution][1]** but that does not tell way for a model/data class.
 
@Khemraj True, once a question has gotten into a pickle, it is hard to rescue it. It may be best to delete your comments (or at least the combative ones) and have another go at clarifying.
 
@Khemraj As it stands from you making your case here about it not being a duplicate you've not got any re-open votes, you need to take some time (not just 15 minutes), to sit and research your question, determine why it's not a duplicate, edit that all into your question and then see what comes from it.
 
@Khemraj edit your post to make sure it's not a duplicate or at least explain why - if you've done that already it got lost in the midst of the comments I've had to clear up as nothing constructive was going on in most of 'em.
 
@NickA Thanks sir for suggestion. I will make another edit, which clarify my question not duplicate.
 
12:50 PM
> 3, 666 helpful flags
 
@Khemraj In the future, you may find it useful to respond to duplicate suggestions in the helpful way they were intended (see the new code of conduct about friendly/unfriendly language).
@Khemraj So, rather than "this is a wrong duplicate mark", you could say "thank you for helping me find a possible duplicate. However, I don't think that will work in my case because of reason X. If you still think it is a duplicate, would you be able to explain why? I may have misunderstood something".
By being less combative, people will see you appreciate their efforts, and may be more inclined to assist (even where they believe a question really is off topic).
 
Thanks sir, I will remember this. Because my language has lead my question many down-votes.

Also I have edited question for further reviewing.
 
@kayess Ten from 12012 :)
 
@PetterFriberg : )
 
@Khemraj Great! I can't really cast a vote as I it is not my subject area. But there should be some Java folks here.
 
12:56 PM
@Khemraj also I suggested you don't use Sir on SO, there is no need, just be polite instead
 
@PetterFriberg Sure petter
 
Sir Mr. Honoured Petter Fribergo
 
:), great, I have also notified Tim that you don't agree
 
@PetterFriberg In India I think that mode of address is very normal. It may be worth explaining why (that it is understood in other English speaking countries as exceedingly formal)
@kayess Today I wish to be known as The Right Honourable Halfer Esq.
 
@halfer haha yes, You are now known as The Mighty Honourable Lord Halfer Earl of SOCVR
 
1:02 PM
@kayess Ooh if I am going to be known as Mighty I might need to borrow someone's Mjölnir (and close some stuff randomly, snarf!)
 
@halfer I'm pleb so can't help your there, Your Majesty
 
With all those fancy titles flying around you can simply call me Dude :)
 
Yes, but we may call rene the Duke
 
@AndréKool No problem Your High Dudeness
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haha
@halfer oh wait, calling someone being high does not sound so welcoming
 
1:06 PM
@kayess It depends. Generally, Dudes will regard it as a compliment. As long as it is a good Highness and not a bad Highness :=)
 
@kayess I'm Dutch......
 
QED!
 
@halfer well bad highness is lowness, at least formally
 
@FrankerZ I'm not sure if you're asking a serious question, or not. That looks like Unclear / General Computing to me. However, you've linked to an answer, so I'm not sure if you linked the correct question.
 
@Makyen Serious question, and was referring to the question
 
1:13 PM
Ummm, since when has a green box appeared in the top right of the screen after flagging that says "Thanks for flagging"?
 
since 6 to 8 days ago
 
That "I didn't know where else to put it" thingy made me laugh in the meta post that explained the positioning :)
 
morning
 
\o
 
Afternoon
 
1:16 PM
@FrankerZ It could be, if the question was clear enough. However, IMO, what change in policy is desired, and what definitions are to be used, really needs to be clarified with a Meta post.
@FrankerZ But, that really looks Unclear/General computing to me.
 
@Machavity I love the autohotkey answer
 
@SmokeDetector I can't follow through to the youtube link. Is that spam?
 
It's just so wrong on so many levels
@NathanOliver No
 
1:23 PM
@NathanOliver It's fishy tho. The video was just published today
 
Are the user names the same?
 
No
 
I mean, it's trying to answer the question
And he did provide code
So, a -1 and off we go
 
If I think a comment chain is unhelpful/irrelevant should I flag one comment or all of them?
 
@NickA Modflag one, and explain
 
1:34 PM
@ErikvonAsmuth Is that really necessary? It's just a few "Thanks" comments
 
If there is 10 or so I mod flag the post instead of flagging each comment
 
A moderator will need to clean them up anyway, unless they contain keywords that makes them instantly disappear. With an explanation they know your motivation
 
@NickA @JonC once told me: if they all can go, modflag one, otherwise go through the tedious 5 second wait process and just flag all of them as "no longer necessary", which usually deletes them directly for thanks-like ones
 
@Adriaan In the current case, there are 2 comments and both can go
 
@NickA that's so few I wouldn't bother modflagging
 
1:40 PM
@tripleee Is it? I might go with too broad but the OP has scoped the Q to using google translate.
 
then maybe find a duplicate where the answer is "no, unless you pay for it"
 
2:01 PM
@Adriaan Is there still a 5 second delay between comment flags then?
 
@JonClements yes :(; it's 3 seconds for opening a new diaglogue (same or new comment), 5 for the actual flagging
 
@JonClements "You may only attempt to flag this comment every 3 seconds."
It's at least 3 :)
 
Oh... thought that was removed... or it might be it doesn't apply to mods... definitely know there was changes to it regarding delays/such a couple of years ago
 
@NickA They need to do bursting, and not this 5 second per flag crap :(
 
According to the rate-limiting guide: 5 seconds between flags + 3 seconds between opening the flag dialog
 
2:04 PM
@NickA the good thing now is that it doesn't close the modal on you if you try to flag too quickly
so it saves a few seconds between each flag
On an unrelated note, there are a few "what's your favorite plugin for X" questions in the CV queue if anyone has some extra CVs lying around and wants to filter by POB questions.
@Machavity definitely don't visit those links at work
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@TylerH :P
 
@Machavity reject that edit as well to not push it into the reopen queue please
 
are they troublesome enough that we want to del-pls? it is now eligible for deletion by 10k+
 
@tripleee Nah. They're not hyperlinks and the TLD kinda screams NSFW
 
BDL
@JonClements If you're still on here, could you have a look at meta? It's kind of flooded with synonymize requests.
Last one is [this](https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/372641/synonymize-pdf-viewer-and-pdfviewer). All from the same user.
Some users have already tried to talk to them in comments, but there is no response from him.
Most of them are closed already, but they still keep coming in at a rate of ~2 per hour.
 
2:12 PM
@BDL That question history is impressive
 
@BDL To add on this. There should be multiple mod flags by now for that user.
 
BDL
@AndréKool There is at least one mod flag from me from 1.5h ago/4 questions ago
 
@BDL The appropriate thing to do is the flag those questions for a moderator. We prefer that you don't ping moderators in here for flaggable actions
In fact I think it may even be written as a rule
 
@TylerH #17
 
@TylerH #17
 
2:15 PM
@BDL I'm busy with other bits - but a mod/CM will get around to it :)
 
We're starting to get into Leroy Jethro Gibbs territory with the rules :-D
 
BDL
Sorry for that.
 
@TylerH Nope, there is no #17 on his list
 
Scooby snacks speak louder than apologies I heard somewhere? Might be making that up though... and I haven't had lunch yet... so who knows :p
 
@JonClements no lunch?!? That's late, even for puppies in the UTC+1 time-zone. Have a scooby snack! Throws one West
 
2:21 PM
\o/
you're a good pink elephant :)
 
@AndréKool I did say close... but there's some competing sources, too... ncis.wikia.com/wiki/Gibbs%27s_Rules
 
@SmokeDetector user shouldn't be blacklsited
 
@TylerH Some of those perfectly apply to SO, like: "Rule 11: "When the job is done, walk away.""
 
@AndréKool lol
also "Never go anywhere without a knife... especially into questions"
 
2:56 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels do know you already posted a cv-pls earlier here. I've casted the final close vote so those requests will now move to the Graveyard but please try to keep track of what you've already send here.
 
Pancakes are done
 
3:12 PM
When you mess up your prod deployment and accidentally uncover a prod bug OxO
 
@AndréKool please pass the stroop
 
@rene Sorry, I only got poedersuiker
 
No spek pannekoek?
 
OxO
 
Rule 23: don't talk about food when Compass is listening
 
3:16 PM
Me wants pancakes now
waffles
 
more waffles
 
I think that user already posted several times on meta
 
eats the room
I am now the singularikitty
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@Compass wow... good luck with the indigestion :)
 
@AndréKool it certainly rings several (alarm) bells
 
4:12 PM
o/ I am a little late. There is still any pancakes or waffles?
 
@Vega /me yawns and burps cutely... doesn't look like it - someone must have eaten 'em I'm afraid...
 
@Vega Every time I come here, someone makes me hungry /grumble ;-)
 
@halfer slow cooked pork ribs with spicy rice (peppers and a bit of chilli and stuff) and a decent sized glass of mojito at mine in about an hour... :)
 
@JonClements Ooh yum
Vega mentioned waffles, and I know of a cafe close to hear that does waffles with maple syrup and fresh fruit, perhaps with a cappu on the side
 
well... might be a little more than an hour depending on how quickly I can convince a DB cluster to start behaving but...
 
4:21 PM
I should have been job-hunting today, but got bored of talking to recruiters, so did some tech tinkering instead.
 
Dinner time is in 1h30 but now I am hungry too
 
PHP is a bit of a swear-word in here, but nevertheless, if anyone sees a PHP beginner struggling, ping them my tutorial.
 
@Vega Would you like some spam to snack on? ;)
 
@NathanOliver Only if spam goes with waffles or pancakes
 
Like luncheon meat? Hmm...
 
4:25 PM
It does. Fried spam is kind of like sausage or bacon.
 
Isn't it for the brunch time?
 
Fried Spam? It's good anytime.
I should disclose that I am a person that can eat dinner for breakfast and breakfast for dinner.
 
I had some really good URGENT YOUR MICROSOFT SUBSCRIPTION IS NOT ACTIVE VISIT SOCVR.ORG/MICROSOFT BEFORE YOU GET SUED yesterday, quite tasty.
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I can eat pancakes any time, specially if there is maple sirop and cappu on the side ;)
@gunr2171 After that I guess no more pancakes neither waffles for me ;)
 
:D
 
4:33 PM
@gunr2171 I keep getting Russian blackmail spam, very spicy
 
6:41 PM
@gunr2171 well I hope you did! End of the world if you didn't! :p
@gunr2171 also... if you happen to need a new fridge freezer... I know a company that'll do that for you "better than anyone else" and offer the "best prices"... I'll just point you to a few deleted posts on the site :p
 
ah, are we getting another wave of spam about that?
but sad face for me, I can't see delete posts
 
nah... no new ones I've noticed anyway
no doubt that fridge deleted:1 would be an interesting query to run
woo hoo... look at me - I'm slowly getting use to smokey commands :)
 
6:58 PM
@JonClements just click the ms link and no need for command :)
 
@Petter sounds like hard work? :p
 
Lol, but yeah sending f to SD is great help it deletes message and maybe avoid people flagging incorrectly
 
@PetterFriberg Why look it up when smokey can just tell you? That is the SO way after all ;)
 
@PetterFriberg Isn't that reserved to RO only?
 
meh... haven't got that far yet... "why" for now works for me :)
 
7:01 PM
@Vega No SD privs is enough..
@JonClements pls try to send f to that report, Im curious if SD will accept it
 
like that?
 
Yeah and it worked check MS link
 
mods are privileged
 
Interesting
 
7:05 PM
Hmm showing chat flags does not work well on mobile
@Vega if you study well all SD commands and are active in SOCVR you can ask RO's to get privs for feedback. To me the most useful feedback is f when it's a false positive, you help new users that are a bit to quick in flagging
 
@PetterFriberg Thank you, that's useful! I need to improve my flagging skills yet, so I will keep tracking sd f from others
 
7:21 PM
I'm in the red flag as little as possible squad always presume good faith as long as you can, but yeah to me there is no universal way of flagging other then personal common sense
 
Woot. All of my badge counts are a multiple of 5.
 
@NathanOliver also your rep :)
 
ohhhhh. I didn't notice that. I got the quadfecta.
\o/
_/o\_ handstand
\o/ _/o\_ \o/ cartwheel
 
waits for another ASCII dog
 
7:25 PM
@NathanOliver Wow, so impressive! :D
 
... that was quick.
 
Nathan's goal in SO life is to get to 314159 rep and stay there forever
 
@Machavity That wasn't the goal but now I don't know how I could not do that. The wont let my reputation be i so I'll have to shoot for that.
 
@NathanOliver ask Skeet for a loan? :p
 
I'll get there sooner or later. I'm already 73% to my original goal
 
7:55 PM
Amazon has DDR4 RAM available on a subscription... who needs to buy RAM every month?
 
I'd image large enough data centers would. They probably have the same thing for HDD's
 
@Machavity DDR4 - isn't that like 00's tech?
 
@JonClements That would be SDRAM. DDR has been a mainstay for about a decade now
 
@Machavity perhaps I'm thinking of EDO RAM ?
 
@JonClements That's serious old school. I think that predates SDRAM
 
8:01 PM
early 90s I think?
I vaguely remember upgrading the ram on my P2 and the motherboard only had two slots for some RAM or other and it came with EDO RAM
 
The puppy is getting DDR4 Ram and Dance Dance Revolution mixed up. Apparently the puppy has some moves ;)
 
Ask Will, he's still on W 95
 
@JonClements Yep, EDO predates SDRAM
 
@PetterFriberg When did he upgrade?
 
8:03 PM
I'm still waiting for my commission on that one :p
 
@Machavity the other day with IE5 also
 
@JonClements hahaha
 
@Nathan and the best thing is... I was playing the piano piece at the same time - it's like magic! :p
 
oh - any mine craft players here?
I've suggested to the python room we restore our old server where we use to hang out...
build a few things and just chill out kind of thing
 
8:08 PM
I haven't played mine craft but I do play factorio
 
@NathanOliver I've looked at getting that... but I missed the sales on it and I'm still not sure if it's a game where I can just spend 10 minutes on and leave for a day kind of thing...
good thing about MC is you can just join it - potter around a bit and just leave it
 
It is. The problem is you won't want to stop after 10 minutes. I've had plenty of time where I figure I'll play for an hour or two and 6 hours later I have to pry myself away from it.
 
when I was 16/17 I'm sure I'd spend all night on games... (at that point even on dial-up) - these days - just can never be bothered...
A good hour/so on Civ 5 or strategy game I'll do...
 
I'm 33 and it still sucks me in. All of the logistics and being able to basically program in it allows you to make some really complicated and fun systems.
 
think my steam library is just Portal 2, Civ 5, Civ: BE and Duke Nukem 3D
 
8:13 PM
nice
 
oh and Bioshock Infinite or whatever it's called
 
Portal 2 was fun. gunr and I cooped that
 
@Nathan @Adriaan and I tried it but I was constantly having to run off for bits on phone calls/video conferences even though I was sure I had the day off :)
 
dang real life getting in the way of coop video gaming.
 
how dare it, right!? :p
 
8:16 PM
someone should have a talking with it ;)
 
Nowadays the young whippersnappers play For the Knight or something. Back in the day, we had to know the IP of the Quake server before connecting!
 
@SmokeDetector edited the self promotion out.
 
 
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