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12:06 AM
 
12:20 AM
It links to a product on a market website, and the username is the one who posted that product
I could not have said that more awkwardly. It looks bad
It might answer the question, but I'm still trying to decipher the question
I don't think it answers the question
 
I think it's spam
Definitely exists only to promote a product, and doesn't disclose affiliation
 
@AndrewMyers By the definitions used by SO/SE, it is spam (undisclosed affiliation). It's debatable if the question asks for such recommendations. If you believe the question doesn't, then it also qualifies by being unsolicited. However, the nature of the post is one that we usually give the user the benefit of the doubt on the first occurrence. Usually, I'll leave a comment with links to the various policies regarding self promotion (done), with the hope that the user will update to comply.
I'll then revisit after a time (e.g. 2 days) and flag as spam at that time, if the post has not been updated.
 
eh, wouldn't flag
 
It's also NAA: link-only, which deserves it's own comments and flagging as NAA, which I would do immediately.
 
 
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Rob
2:24 AM
@AlonEitan Hmm, source code of which page? I can't find it anywhere
Now I'm curious
 
Do you think it's something that you, as a mod, should be able to trigger?
 
Rob
I doubt it
 
Konami code doesn't trigger anything :-(
 
3:02 AM
Looks like the reference to wheel7.mp3 is in cdn-chat.sstatic.net/chat/Js/eggs.js?v=3
"eggs.js" hmm....
 
Rob
3:15 AM
I don't have sound at my work, so I can't test it. But try typing <(?:"[^"]*"['"]*|'[^']*'['"]*|[^'">])+> as a message
 
I think it's not available for us miserable non-employees
It's part of the easter egg script
It's Eggs.WOB, to be exact. WOB = Wheel Of Blame, which is on the SE internal chat
All easter eggs are in the source code to start with, but they get deleted from the object after it checks what site its on, so we can't get it :-(
 
Rob
They still work
Try the above message
 
<(?:"[^"]*"['"]*|'[^']*'['"]*|[^'">])+>
Yeah. That's only enabled on Stack Overflow, I think
That's Eggs.Cthulu (sic). There should be Eggs.WOB, Eggs.MTG, etc, but they don't show up in the console
Of course, you can still copy the source code and paste it in the console...
...And it still doesn't do much because I can't trigger it. It gives me UI to turn on "wheelsound" in local storage, but the Eggs.WOB.blame function won't get called unless there's actually a Wheel of Blame thing (I think)
 
4:19 AM
@EJoshuaS For future reference, questions need a score of -3 or lower to be eligible for 20k+ deletion.
 
@MikeM. True...
I wish I had 20k rights on this site - I have Trusted User status on a Beta site, but it's kind of boring because people are so well-behaved there that I hardly ever have to vote to delete
 
@EJoshuaS It's cool. I had a spare vote. ;-)
 
:)
 
 
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5:32 AM
@SurajRao 20k deletion requires a score of -3 or lower.
 
oh well.. that is kinda difficuit in a low traffic tag. and people seem to upvote by default when there is a downvote
 
I bookmarked it, for to come back in 2 days, but it looks like it might hit the mark soon, anyway.
 
@MikeM. It has -3 now - I downvoted it.
That one was definitely worth downvoting, seems pretty useless to me
 
5:57 AM
^ he edited the question to make it contain jQuery just now
 
yes.. but its still too broad asking for code.
 
true that
 
^deleted by Mod
would you call it Robbed ? :p
 
Rob
;)
 
@Rob cdn-chat.sstatic.net/chat/Js/eggs.js (Search for var I = "/Content/wheel7";)
 
Rob
6:11 AM
@AlonEitan Thanks!
 
6:24 AM
Not sure if I should mod flag in such cases ^
 
Rob
Nah, we get an autoflag
 
ah ok thanks
 
hmm.. the answer deleted shows the previous names from the review not the second del voters. Is it a bug?
 
6:49 AM
Morning \o
 
7:38 AM
Morning
 
@AlonEitan Given that it has almost 30k views, deleting it doesn't seem like a good idea. It's a duplicate (now), and clearly something that people land on (i.e. it will probably be a good signpost, which is what a duplicate is supposed to be).
 
@Makyen But what about the -7 votes? So many views an not so many upvotes
But you can delete that del-pls if you prefer (1 vote away from getting deleted)
 
@AlonEitan I didn't say it was a good question, just a good signpost.
 
Well, it is now deleted. I request deletion because I was expecting more upvotes on the question/answers with so many views, so I concluded that it wasn't helpful for the majority of viewers
 
7:59 AM
@AlonEitan Duplicates are signposts. They're not in any way about the question or answer scores (actually, we hope that duplicates have no answers). Duplicates are about being high in search engine results to get people to the dup-target, not the duplicate. Unless there's something wrong in the question or answer(s), or it's actually cluttering up search results, which this didn't appear to be, then there's no reason to delete, and every reason to keep it, if it's being a good signpost.
 
@Makyen OK, so do you think I should request undeletion of that one?
@Makyen Nevermind - Undeleted just now (I cast the last vote)
 
@AlonEitan Thanks.
 
8:32 AM
What would be the correct thing to do when I see someone doing something I have been told not to do in this chatroom?
 
\o
 
Or should I ask that on interpersonal site?
 
Heh :-)
 
@Makyen Did you see this and following discussion? chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/42847220#42847220
 
o/
 
8:42 AM
@StephenKennedy Yes, but it felt like the conversation was over by the time that I saw it.
 
@Makyen I read gunr's response as "not sure" rather than "no"?
 
@AndréKool I think the short answer is that if you are confident about a room rule, feel free to mention it. For example if I became aware someone was making several CVs on one user, I'd mention that, because someone mentioned it to me.
In other news, I bagged me a job yesterday :-) PHP + Symfony + Go + Kube
 
@halfer I can't really find it in the faq (specificly), so no I'm not confident about it.
 
@AndréKool Gotcha. You can ask a general question here about it then, not pertaining to a specific individual - someone will know.
 
I'd say it's largely difficult to give an answer without knowing the exact circumstances (i.e. seeing the specific questions). I'd probably be somewhere between at least wanting there to be an attempt to get it closed through normal means (i.e. a close vote and seeing if the CV-queue handled it) and being OK with posting a cv-pls.
 
8:52 AM
@halfer Congratulations
 
@halfer \o/
 
@Makyen Thanks. I'll let it go this time. Tab closed. Cheers.
 
Is there a rule about the amount of cv-pls requests a person can make (in an hour/day/week) or is there only a general guidline? (I was told a while back to limit myself)
 
@AndréKool Ahh... sorry; missed this. I basically agree with what @halfer said. If you have a question about the rules, feel free to ask. We do attempt to apply them more-or-less uniformly, but we're not perfect.
@AndréKool There is a general guideline. There is not a set maximum. IIRC, you encountered both an issue regarding users making requests which they don't, currently, have the ability to act on (e.g. del-pls prior to having 10k rep.) and limits to the average number of requests made per day by those who have the requisite ability to act on similar requests. There was a more in depth discussion about this at a room meeting. (I'm working on organizing references).
 
Is this question BT/Unclear? stackoverflow.com/questions/50757041/…
 
9:15 AM
@GertArnold "How did this even pass the checks?" --> check the revision history, it wasn't all code at first (well it was but it wasn't formatted as code)
 
@AndréKool The issue regarding making requests which you don't currently have the ability to act upon is in Can I request people to vote or flag on posts I find?. The statement is very general and says "...should be kept to a minimum". The general issue of too many requests was discussed in the Room Meeting a year ago in May 2017: When are too many cv-pls, too many?
 
@AndréKool OMG, yes. Totally forgot that.
 
@Makyen Thanks for that info, I had overlooked that in the faq (the bold texts drew my attention to the next line) and currently reading the second link :)
 
9:34 AM
Isn't a confidential code used in this question: Upgrading older CQ 5.5 Blog components to AEM 6.2 ? (only visible if you edit the question)
 
@Makyen Can I bug you some more about this? (my autism is kicking in: hating when something isn't specific)
@krlzlx Just gonna point out it says "Copyright 1997-2009" and I personally live in the year 2018.
 
@AndréKool Sure. Just so you know, I'm not expecting to be around much more today, as I'm getting close to the end of my "day". However, I'm happy to continue to discuss it.
 
@Makyen I understand it is a general (loose) guideline for not posting more than 4-5 cv-pls request in a row/short time. I'm just missing an absolute limit (like max 10 a day) also I have seen people doing maybe 10 requests in 10 min (hard to say in a row because other people also posting inbetween). Would that be to much?
 
ask in the room if you find yourself doing more than a few in quick succession
the quality of the posts is also a factor; if they are horrible then maybe bend the rules a bit (but on the other hand probably discuss the lode you found and whether it should be coordinated and/or discussed on meta)
if nobody is responding then you are probably not disturbing a lot of people right there and then
@krlzlx I flagged for mod attention
 
9:50 AM
@Makyen And can anyone say something about it or only RO's (maybe experienced regulars). And if I can say something about it how should I do that (I really suck at being delicate/not blunt)
 
@AndréKool As has been stated, there isn't an explicit limit. The 10/day average I've previously mentioned is based on what's sustainable for the room.
 
@tripleee Alright, thank you
 
@AndréKool chat is a community resource, room owners can kick or ban you but don't wait for them to step in if others in the room are asking you to slow down
 
@AndréKool If you feel some number is too many from someone else, you can open a room for yourself and an RO and mention your concern to them, if you're not wanting it to be public (note that such rooms are not actually private, as only moderators can make truly private rooms). However, if you feel comfortable mentioning it in public, you can say something like "@foobar I happened to notice that you just posted 50 cv-pls requests in the last 30s. That feels like a bit too many."
 
@tripleee This is not about me but about me seeing other people doing something I have been told not to do
 
9:54 AM
then obviously feel free to be one of the voices who asks them to respect the room rules, ideally with a pointer to the documentation
NATO
 
@tripleee Problem is (for me atleast) there isn't a rule, only (vague) guidelines. That's why I was asking about it.
 
@AndréKool Phrasing things in a manner that doesn't come off as being blunt can take a reasonable amount of practice, particularly when you're approaching it from the position of being at a similar level (just another room member), or where you perceive yourself to be at a lower "status" level than the person who you are talking to (e.g. feel that they have been in the room much longer than yourself).
In such situations, I often make it more about my wanting to understand the rules, rather than trying to "enforce" the rules upon someone else. So something like "@foobar My understanding based on [link to FAQ] that we were supposed to do X/not do Y. I've noticed you doing Q. Was I misunderstanding what we were supposed to be doing in this situation?"
 
10:11 AM
in practice I suppose we all do a bit of back and forth around when something exceeds a reasonable threshold ... and then often you find that when one person is irritated enough to complain, several others have already been giving it similar thoughts
 
I make a point of close-voting a couple whenever I have a coffee/beer. That covers me for when I see the occasional attack of multi-trash that I need to notify here.
 
(Any point in updating Yam about my actions?)
 
That guy keeps arguing like GMail isn't working in Dreamweaver. Dreamweaver is worse than IE 6! LoL.
@PraveenKumar , it works on codepen but now in dreamweaver — Samuel Hardson 1 min ago
 
@PraveenKumar Javascript/Jquery is called JAVA?? blasphemous
 
@SurajRao I know. Had to face it. Let us all die in peace. In Mars.
 
10:17 AM
@AndréKool You can always preface any statement you make which you feel may be blunt with a similar disclaimer. Or "btw I am Dutch" may suffice :)
 
@PraveenKumar Didn't look at it but it takes (atleast) 2 people to have an argument. Did you try walking away?
 
@AndréKool I did. I am happy. :D
 
@AlonEitan I believe it's been stated (by Makyen?) that such feedback is useful, but it's not formalised (yet?)
 
@PraveenKumar Good for you :)
@StephenKennedy Unfortunatly there seems to be something called being too Dutch
 
@AlonEitan Yam doesn't actually take feedback. However, replying to GraveRobber reports lets other people know that you've checked it out and made a determination. This means that they don't need to. In addition, it means that ROs can archive that Yam report, as it's served it's purpose. Personally, when someone replies to a Yam report I add the report and reply to the list of messages to archive the next time I run the Archiver. This gets them out of the way sooner.
 
10:30 AM
@MartinJames That's exactly the idea of surge protection. Problem with a generator is it will not start anything fast enough to provide seamless power to your devices. Nor is it a protection device (in fact it can create EMI problems on its own). For few second drops it's obviously also unusable. So you need some battery buffer anyway and that's where UPS come into play. Either a small one under the desk or a larger one (in terms of power, not necessarily battery capacity) for the whole house.
 
@Makyen I see, thanks! Will continue to replay to the robot
 
But without proper surge protection it's just like flushing even more devices down the drain in case of an event. Expect more problems due to thunderstorms the next few years. It's a safe bet imo.
 
10:50 AM
@SurajRao I'll report the NATO as spam
 
@halfer I would have but I am not sure of affiliation here
 
@SurajRao Fair enough, but it could equally be deleted as LQ anyway.
 
@halfer never mind logisticinfotech.com/company/our-team The username looks like one of the cofounders but that could be coincidence
 
And yes, this unfortunatly looks like I'm targeting a user but these two questions were posted only 2 hours apart in the same tag.
 
@Yam Now it is Too broad.
 
11:03 AM
@AndréKool I think it is OK if you found them organically
(obviously if this happens a lot on one user, give them a bit of a break :-) - I try to do the same with my editing)
 
@halfer I did find them organically, just thought I should mention it
 
+1
 
@Yam It's too broad. And I am not sure if it is still on topic
 
11:22 AM
 
Looks weird for me.
 
@Vega Here is the formatted version :P stackoverflow.com/a/50759135/4916627
 
Aah, much better ! :)
 
@AndréKool that didnt have any links
 
@SurajRao Take a look at the revision history.....
 
11:26 AM
They're both deleted now, so no need to worry about them
 
@ErikvonAsmuth ah it got Robbed
 
11:40 AM
@SurajRao Rob'd to make sure
 
12:27 PM
Are my advices regarding the broadness of the question to asker proper here? chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/172761/…
 
@WiktorStribiżew If it actually is the 1Mth dupe it should get an award :P
 
Afternoon
 
Hiya @Nat
 
12:42 PM
Plop morning everyone
 
Afternoon
 
Sup?
 
sup!
 
12:49 PM
@AndréKool Sorry, but I really see them coming every day in maxi-batches :)
 
@WiktorStribiżew I know the feeling. I think most tags have questions that are being asked again and again.
 
@WiktorStribiżew You sup train killa! :(
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1:15 PM
morning
 
We have a winner for best question by a new user this week I'd say
4
 
People with names in italic are RO's, right?
 
@Adriaan nice :) My pessimism made me think it was sarcastic before clicking the link :p
 
@SurajRao ghe yea :P
@AndréKool yes
 
@SurajRao Isn't that realism?
 
1:27 PM
@AndréKool Also puppies.
 
\o @PaulStenne! Long time no see, you got drowned in 1.5L PET bottles of beer?
 
Blegh, lack of coffee and having to work with someone else's code are affecting my brain :(
 
> Your problem is that matlabFunction is a smartass
alright....
 
@Adriaan the tag for delete-vote is del-pls
 
@Adriaan done
 
1:36 PM
@MunimMunna thanks, but I've been delv-ing questions in here for two years and the scripts catch it and the ROs are fine with it
 
@Adriaan Wait, people are using SO as intended? We'd better close that quick, before they get ideas. Otherwise we'll be out of a job
 
@Machavity yes, these pesky first-timers apparently very uniquely do read the help centre etc to read a proper question
 
@MunimMunna Oddly enough, it was [delv-pls] originally. I was the one who started calling it [del-pls]
 
but but but the faq
 
1:41 PM
@Machavity I think it was called that because cv-pls also has the v for vote, and dv-pls could be read as downvote-pls.
 
@Machavity lol, I didn't know that, I'm new and I only read the FAQ, guess both are fine then :)
 
@Adriaan Yeah, dv-pls was a convention we had to kill because it could be read as asking for downvotes
 
@AndréKool @MunimMunna FAQ updated with the alt form. should be live in a few seconds.
 
2:07 PM
oh missed that
it was fixed by the time i opened the post. :)
 
@NickA So apparently the mods' position is that any question is on-topic at RPG.SE if there's so much as an RPG being played in the vicinity.
Even if you're asking about rescuing a cat from a tree I'm guessing
 
Climbing a tree? Roll a skill check.
 
Ron
2:36 PM
o/
 
user2286243
I vote to close this room ;)
 
@VarunAgrawal This room will review your vote and get back to you in 6 to 8 :)
 
3:10 PM
@RO please remove this cv-pls OP fixed the question
 
@techraf done
 
Ron
How is everybody feeling on this glorious Friday?
Tough crowd.
@Nkosi Yeah, keep on walking on sandy beaches, never mind us landlocked, poor souls.
 
Doing good. I wish it wasn't raining but at least the week is almost over
 
Ron
Very nice.
 
3:25 PM
@Ron You could always create one in the back yard. :P
 
[tag:javascript] [tag:angularjs] duplicate [angular ng-model is not working for input type=checkbox
](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38300120/angular-ng-model-is-not-working-for-input-type-checkbox)
 
was a rather hot week this week
beach for sure this weekend to cool off. :P
 
what's wrong with my message?
 
Ron
@Clint Put your cursor at the end of =checkbox and hit del + enter.
 
Can't edit anymore, my tags didn't work either
 
Ron
3:29 PM
You could use a js generator. More info at socvr.org.
@Clint And here is a direct link to some useful scripts.
 
thank you
 
Ron
@Nkosi Some people have it good I tell ya.
 
That question was last active 1 month ago
 
@Ron all a matter of perspective.
 
Ron
True.
 
3:32 PM
make the best with what you have
 
Ron
Well said.
 
4:06 PM
Also POB ^
 
4:24 PM
@MartinJames 45k cucumbered too
 
5:16 PM
"I am going to ignore the terrible choice of using eval... but do read this link because I can't really ignore it at all." LOL! — Cris Luengo 51 mins ago
 
5:34 PM
Custom ModFlagged as this was suspicious: stackoverflow.com/q/50765520
2 upvotes within few seconds for an unclear question...
 
I ordered extra spicy curry today.
The restaurant made it extra spicy =w=
 
Straightened the whiskers, huh?
 
lips were numbbbb
 
Did you breath fire?
4
 
no
 
6:10 PM
@TylerH Yeah I saw, seems a little odd to me, but hey-ho, I would've just expected them to be nicer about it than make assumptions about where your priorities were
 
> I swear I'd never heard a cat scream quite like that any time before.
 
wat
 
@JohnDvorak You never had cats having fun right under your window? Sounds like babies fighting to death, just louder.
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There's only one cat living in my neighbourhood, and he's domesticated.
 
`graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/110285/… Graphic Design SE looks like a fun place
 
6:26 PM
@NickA yeah I guess that's the danger you run with appointed mods vs elected ones
 
@Compass Maybe we should get them to make us a new SOCVR logo
 
=w=
 
7:13 PM
@Compass It's only really spicy hot if it burns twice.
 
nah
Then it's not spicy hot. I have immunity.
 
7:55 PM
@Compass So you can just drink Tabasco Sauce?
 
8:12 PM
Yes that is one of my super powers
 
 
1 hour later…
9:17 PM
Glad the valgrind question is gone
 
I love it when a 10k rep user makes a request for an off-site resource and puts a bounty on it.
 
@E_net4 where... I've got cvs :D
 
@AnttiHaapala Uh... CVs don't work on questions with an open bounty, lad. :(
 
I've got dv's too :D
 
I had to mod flag it.
Oh, did I say love? I meant loathe.
 
9:50 PM
@techraf how's vagrant "general computing"?!
"Vagrant enables users to create and configure lightweight, reproducible, and portable development environments."
I'd rather close because of screenshot...
ah ... tag wiki says so :D
 
10:36 PM
 
11:33 PM
@techraf I agree this is "too broad", but I don't see how it's a resource request. The user does say they couldn't find other examples, but doesn't actually ask for them.
 

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