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9:00 PM
it's only been around what, a year or two?
 
> new
 
well compared to the other queues
but yeah, H&I needs to expose the option to CV and flag as if it were a normal post (and have it count as the review action), and it needs a "this actually looks OK to me as it is" button
 
@LW001 The problem with Triage is they have a confusing "Requires Editing" button. And, of course, everyone assumes it means the OP needs to edit it into shape, not realizing that it means H&I has to edit it into shape
 
currently there's no recommended actionable item except "edit"
or skip
 
@Machavity that was exactly why I asked for what the queue did pretty much
 
9:02 PM
@Machavity It'd be great if they had a "looks OK" button on H&I that sent it back to Triage or on to Low Quality, and then for people who sent it to H&I, they get a message saying they have been sending wrong questions to H&I
and they get blocked from reviewing that queue
 
Or just change triages instructions for that button
 
nah people will still click it
best bet is to get rid of the triage queue
 
Ron
@Olaf It will probably be a uber fuel efficient diesel aka i30 for me.
 
Looking at it now it actually says "Could use improvements from editors or the OP" or something along those lines
 
@Ron Yes, the German site also lists a Tucking Tuscon. But the only 1.6l GDI has only 132HP and an accordingly lower torque. And the consumption for manual vs. automatic gear is indeed worse for automatic (as I said, ca. 0.3l more).
 
Ron
9:05 PM
@Olaf It's either i30 or i20 for me. Hyundai makes good cars.
 
@Ron If you're not up to a fast car or max. features, the normal Hyundai (or their siblings from Kia) i30 or so are fine imo. I also thought about them when I bought a new car. Problem for me was I wanted max. features (light automatics, including far-distance light, rain sensor, ACC, etc) and more power. I just don't see much use in those SUVs. They are too heavy and don't serve any reasonable purpose.
 
Ron
@Olaf Safety.
 
They also have more seating and storage space for luggage, etc.
And they sit up higher so you have better visibility of the road and other cars
 
@Ron Nonsense! Actually they are not even safer for you, as they have worse surround view than normal models. For others (children, other pedestrians, byciclists) they are simply murder stuff. In a country where everyone drives by car, this might not be an argument, in mid-Europe, it is.
 
@Olaf this is totally wrong. SUVs have much greater visibility for the driver than sedans or compact cars
and they are safer for the passengers of the vehicle in an accident, too
bigger stronger frames, more airbags, etc.
 
9:15 PM
@TylerH A van hass much more space. The small SUVs are in fact not much better than the models they base on. Plus they have worse handling. But, yes, if you only drive <55m/h or so, it does not matter much.
 
of course most manufacturers these days try to fit as many airbags as possible into even the sedans
 
Ron
@Olaf There is a video showing one of the Williams sisters got hit by another car. Good luck with that in your ford compact.
 
@TylerH That's pretty much nonsense. It can even be worse, as they are more stiff.
 
@Olaf every type of vehicle has advantages and disadvantages
you just shouldn't make up stuff about the ones you don't like having none
 
@Ron Ever seen kids who had an accident with a small car and with a SUV (vans are not much better, but they serve a reason).
SUV only compensate for - well - I should not say this, just that they are a cheaper version of Porsche, etc.
 
9:17 PM
your car is tuned to drive on the autobahn, we get it. Most drivers in the world don't want a car like that because they don't have an autobahn
 
Ron
@Olaf Haha, oh come on now.
 
@Olaf yes, the small cars are eradicated and the SUVs are just dented
unless you are building them out of cardboard like in China
you don't even know what you are talking about. Comparing a car type of SUV to a car manufacturer Porsche... you're trying to compare fruit to fruitcake here
 
@TylerH I know the crashtests for my Focus very well and they are excellent. Maybe you should by a real American car, instead of Corean oversized matchbox SUVs? :-P
@TylerH No, I comare the people who buy such cars. The only difference is the money they spend. The attitude is pretty similar.
 
@Olaf It's Korean, first of all, and second of all your Focus is a matchbox compared to any SUV. In addition I have driven American, German, Korean, and Japanese
and american cars suck unless you are buying a truck
but that's probably because most other car companies don't bother with making pickup trucks
Honda has one, Toyota has a couple
but most are Ford, Chevy, or Dodge/RAM
 
@TylerH That#s wy the Focus is actually a German car, if we talk about design (and built here as much as VW, Mercedes, etc). But well, I agree it does not make much sense discussing with SUV owners about rational decissions.
 
9:22 PM
I hope you never have a wreck in your Focus, because you will likely not survive it especially if you drive at the speeds you seem to think everyone buys a car for
 
@TylerH ENd of the 1990ies, I did a fliped-over with my Ford Fiesta at ca. 150km/h. Sure, the car was trash, but I had no problem getting out and nothing happend to me apart from two small haematomas from a mobile and glass water bottle. I don't see why the Focus should do worse today.
flip-over -> rollover?!
 
Speaking of cars, I used to work for the U.S. Office of a Japanese company writing software for a German car manufacturer, and most of my group was Indian. So, what nationality was the car from? I think that global supply chains have largely rendered "Made In..." obsolete.
Unfortunately, my work did not include getting a free BMW.
 
@EJoshuaS That's the point. But they are still designed mostly in one area (for that area, but in case of Ford or VW, etc. with a worldwide - well - focus)
@EJoshuaS I wouldn't buy a BMW or Audi or Porsche or VW (which includes Seat). And a Mercedes only if I have money to burn, so most likely never. All way too expensive. And at least the VW sellers I met (including Audi) were quite snobbish,. as if they don't need to sell anything.
 
Ron
9:37 PM
Good night all. Tc.
 
9:53 PM
Too slow again.
 
o/
 
Hi all, anyways! o/
 
Hey
 
10:12 PM
Not my day. XD
 
@NathanOliver Oh wow...
 
10:29 PM
@TylerH Just FYI: The Stack Overflow Unofficial Patch (SOUP) userscript/extension shows the close button under questions in the H&I queue (along with many other changes). While it doesn't fix everything wrong with the H&I queue, it at least makes it so you can CV questions which need it without having to open the question in another tab. Close voting does not count as an actual review action.
 
@Makyen Beautiful..
 
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