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7:00 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre You say! I'm trying hard not to check the list currently.
@MartinJames Poor R.R.Martin.
 
@Olaf I meant 'Game of Trash':)
 
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@Olaf not the best comment stackoverflow.com/questions/46267629/…
 
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we need to rise above our baser instincts to mimic the behaviour we don't like in new users
 
@MartinJames Did you read that Hillarious Clinton sees herself as Cercei Lanister in her new wast of wood (aka "book")?
 
@Olaf LOL, no!
 
7:06 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre it is useless anyway...
 
@YvetteColomb Can't we just torture them or put them to the sword?
 
by the time you find a duplicate at least 3 other goldbadgers have answered the question...
 
@MartinJames Yes, and says it's Bernie Sanders' fault she lost the poll. Is that Alzheimer already or normal debility? I'm afraid it is the normal politician's blind spot.
 
I was going to post 'Welcome to the SO GoT Test and Verification House. Please send your gold or suffer our wrath'
 
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@MartinJames in here, not when rene is around - in comments, no :D
 
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7:08 PM
@MartinJames or - winter is here - we've closed our doors
 
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@Olaf is Bill her brother?
 
@YvetteColomb Hmm, I just tired to adopt to the language of the younger. A natural matter of mimicry I s'pose
 
@AnttiHaapala you mean closed the question, right? answering that for a hirep/gold badge would be really unethical.
 
@YvetteColomb I wish it were winter... but at least on the northern hemisphere, it is the 8783th day of autumn...
 
4 votes now, probably thanks to SOCVR
 
7:09 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre no, answered.
 
@YvetteColomb My, I didn't even think about that. But remember Cercei was married to that fantasy redshirt in the beginning. Let's say Bill had more luck.
 
@AnttiHaapala not talking about that one: stackoverflow.com/questions/46267827/…
And if a hirep users gets rep from answering duplicates, we should delete the Q&A altogether
 
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@Olaf yes Bill has had more luck
 
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@rene speak of the devil
 
@AnttiHaapala for Python it would be closed instantly. For C it's sometimes slower.
 
7:11 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre you can ping me with such hammer requests, I am glad to help :D
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm afraid @AnttiHaapala is right. Hmm, maybe I should forget about my ethical position and eventually get my gold, too.
 
Evening all! o/
 
that is because a) python room coordinates closures... b) organizes dv rings for voting gold badge holders down and complain them in comments for answering obvious duplicates.
 
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@AnttiHaapala I'll remember. In that case, you were the 5th voter. not much difference :)
 
7:12 PM
@AnttiHaapala Don't worry, it is getting colder in the world since years already - socially.
 
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@BaummitAugen no
 
Hm, they deleted it again. Odd.
 
@BaummitAugen Well, at least you didn't say 'Good evening'. Welcome to my day-before-homework-due nightmare.
 
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how are you eyes?
 
7:14 PM
@AnttiHaapala I never go to this python room (and what you're telling me doesn't motivate me to visit!!). I don't like DV rings. Better close as duplicate & delete question & answers altogether.
 
@MartinJames Lol, been there.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre No wonder with such supporters: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/356657/…
 
@YvetteColomb Tired, going to bed early for ones probably.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre well it is not an explicit dv ring :D
it is just that everyone has the same mindset already.
 
@AnttiHaapala Hmm, isn't that considered mobbing up? (sounds good to me :-)
 
7:15 PM
Scss possesses more esses than css possesses.
 
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@BaummitAugen yeh it's 5.15am I got up - will also go back to bed soon
 
I'm way more likely to be still awake than already awake at that hour. XD
 
@YvetteColomb Dawn approaches quickly, and all vamps must retire to their daytime rest places in the evil darkness of their lairs.
..or maybe you're just weary.
 
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@MartinJames precisely
 
@MartinJames I wish that was true for homework-vamps, too.
 
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7:19 PM
@BaummitAugen totally understand that
 
@Olaf you should get those 93 missing score fast...
@Olaf @MartinJames @Jean-FrançoisFabre one thing that helps in closing duplicates in fast is sopython.com/canon
 
@Olaf I don't see you answering that much. Bitchin', that you can do :) congrats for your meta question: you must be relieved.
do like me: leave the [c] filter running while at work, and if the question is interesting, answer it.
 
@AnttiHaapala I'm really not sure I want the hammer. And I definitivelly don't want to get those reps as a rep-tomacco.
 
Avoiding reps is no use.
 
7:26 PM
of course you want the hammer :D
the biggest problem in are the loads of noobie questions that would need more than 5 duplicates...
half of them are like that :(
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre ' if the question is interesting' what? On the [c] tag? Waste of good bandwidth and screen acreage:(
 
Our reps they mean nothing, they change throughout time, so come sit beside us and share in our wine
... or share in our whine?
 
it happens... well not every day.
 
@JohnDvorak I only have Coronas and Bishops Finger. I suppose I'll have to make do:(
 
of course most of them have already been asked, but some interesting combinations remain.
 
7:28 PM
In Python things are much better: you (usually) get an exception at one point, and then you ask about that.
in you coded for a week, and your code compiles and it has 1000 mistakes.
 
python is wider because there are a lot of packages (csv, pandas, scipy), so more good questions.
I personnaly never use C unless forced at gunpoint.
 
C questions are like "I found a piece of finger 5cm long. Where is the gun I shot myself with?"
 
Heck, these wannabe script-kiddies … Why don't they first learn how to write correct code before trying to write exploits? Or none at all and stick to being productive instead of destructive.
 
yeah. But productive AND C in the same sentence looks weird :)
 
@Olaf so should we write to meta about that :D
 
7:30 PM
@AnttiHaapala Well, yes, but only the first two are acually important. The rest is the compiler running off the rails because of one missing bracket.
 
Or do base-jumping without strings attached.
 
@MartinJames no I mean 1000 points of UB.
 
1000 points of UB I like that :)
 
@AnttiHaapala Orite:)
 
@AnttiHaapala I'm sure they won't even read it. Most of them seem to register once per question anyway.
 
7:32 PM
I really wish C compilers actually did include nasal demons.
 
@Olaf don't push your luck with meta today :)
 
I mean, asking for community consensus that script kiddoing would be considered OT...
 
Programming darwinism: If invoking undefined behaviour deletes your data and crashes the hardware instantly.
@JohnDvorak ^
 
@Olaf FR: make that the case
 
@Olaf You're not impressed by the continual 'Shellcode' questions coypasta'd from some out-of-date book?
 
7:33 PM
@Olaf like it never happened to you :)
 
That's why you make regular backups and only develop C code in a virtual machine, right?
... or, better yet, stay away from C and stick to Ruby
 
that's from a ♦: In any case, if the question doesn't appear to have any redeeming value (even to white hats), or targets a specific individual or organization (help me hack this website), then vote to close accordingly.
 
waffles
 
@Olaf Data deletion is fine. I just tell the customer to restore from backups, then tell them it's their fault if they don't have any, then go to the bar to celebrate the loss of all the corrupted data that my bugs have archived.
 
@rene sorry :D
 
7:36 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre How that? I'm done with that subject for now. The mod has appologised and hopefully takes measures for the future (see the answer/comments). I'm just not sure when the flag-ban is removed, I assume that's when a flag ages away.
 
@JohnDvorak LOL, timing function execution with a calendar:)
 
@rene relax, baby. It's not like the auto-quote was off-topic or anything.
 
sure, I relax
 
@AnttiHaapala Hmm, I'd expected delete o mod-flag, because that's illegal action is a lot of countries.
 
so basically, if the question is about "this hellcode doesn't work", just link that answer, close and cv-pls.
 
7:39 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I don't use C on the PC. Python does not have UB. :-P
 
@Olaf ummm you wish
 
@Olaf or any driver development.
 
@Olaf yeah! sometimes you have to link some C code with something. Python bindings are sometimes too much, in that case I link with C++ so I have strings and vectors.
 
Maybe I need to up my ram voltage? as a possible cure for a null pointer exception O.o
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Try to write an emulator using python...
 
7:40 PM
@Olaf cpython uses -fwrapv... because it is full of ub. (signed integer overflow)
 
@MartinJames I'm quite impressed people who refuse to read C books do read this rubbish.
 
@rene Lol.
 
@Olaf Python has UB. But it's on purpose: hash algorithm/salt is random to avoid some replay attacks.
 
may I note the question that Rene has just quoted from is closed now, or would that be disrespectful to the poster? :P
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre That's not really UB.
 
7:42 PM
@MartinJames From my experience, most data customers have should be deleted anyway. Including a lot of source code. So … Prost!
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre nondeterminism != UB
 
@Olaf :|
 
Ruby's Kernel#rand is nondeterministic by design but it doesn't infect the entire code base with "the compiler may now ruin your day for free"
 
@MartinJames On embedded a wrongly written driver can indeed trash your hardware (just think about outputs driving against each other).
 
@Olaf can a driver do that?
 
7:44 PM
@Olaf I may have noticed that. I had an umm.. 'incident' with a 340V 70A power supply:(
 
@JohnDvorak yeah okay. You can still crash python when using some poorly written extensions. But that doesn't count.
 
@rene 1kV should be enough for RAM, CPU and chipset. Just make sure you keep the voltage constant for some seconds. Ignore the smell.
 
The null terminator from the 1-character string that doesn't fit in char type[1] overwrites it. Use char type, and read into it using %c. — Antti Haapala 12 secs ago
 
I've heard about old CRTs that blow up if you switch the display mode too often, but...
 
I've added this here, and am now looking for a duplicate :D
let's see how many answers we get in the meantime
 
7:46 PM
@AnttiHaapala which question?
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre the one that I commented on...
 
@AnttiHaapala LOL, 'char type[1];' - you just know..
 
@JohnDvorak Electronic fundamentals: What happens if you driver high current trough a low-current transistor/MOSFET?
 
@Olaf can a piece of software do that?
 
@Olaf The magic smoke escapes?
 
7:48 PM
Too bad modern CMOS is much more tolerant. Bipolar TTL was way more critical.
 
stackoverflow.com/a/46268224 "As a department we have ditched Skype and we are now using Slack." WTF? can we flag an accepted answer?? edit: OP answered that.
 
heh, bipolar. kicks himself
Can, yes.
 
@MartinJames You should have connected 100 MCUs in series. 3.7V should b tolerable ;-)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre yes, but don't come whining here once it is declined ....
we'll wait with the wine ...
 
@rene I won't flag, I'll downvote instead :)
 
7:50 PM
your vote
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre the whole question should be closed. It is not a programming question
 
@JohnDvorak Could be, if the HV powersupply is designed badly. Most likely you need a specific frequency when switching to get some resonance in the LC circuit. Actually, this could also happen in modrn power supplies. But getting that frequency is the problem. That's one aspect of PSU design.
 
@Olaf It was quite 'interesting'. The PS rack had three cooling fans on the front, and they were blowing out flames and smoke.
 
@AnttiHaapala there's one answer which seems valuable. Can it be migrated to SuperUser?
 
@Olaf oh boy. This might be fun to code, but I don't expect any semblance of success.
 
7:52 PM
@JohnDvorak Why not? If you have an output from another device, e.g. RAM and dmissconfigure the MCU pin as output, too, driving a different vlotage: Current flow.
I was lucky I never damagesd something that way, but had this in my early days some times. That's why I prefer an MSO nearby when developing driver code.
 
I don't see how I can get into this HW destruction contest. I don't have anything connected that is vulnerable;(
 
@AnttiHaapala: let's post a programming Q&A like this: "how to write such code in C ?" then answer "never mind, I ditched C and wrote it in python instead"...
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre no automigration
 
then let's help the poor soul regaining his rep and close/
+delete
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre ..and I'm convinced it's working, but there's no I/O, so I'm not 100% sure :)
 
7:55 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre well, I entered the question into google.. .and guess what... first result is this q, the second is the help article from microsoft.
 
@MartinJames photo pls
 
@JohnDvorak CMOS, too. Not necessarily the MCU, but maybe the PSU, etc. Depends on the hardware-design.
 
@JohnDvorak No photo it was a long time ago, and on a mil site anyway, so no cameras:(
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre the rest of the answer is verbatim copy from the 2nd google result :D
 
@AnttiHaapala ok so plagiarism... let's delete all that crap then.
 
7:57 PM
@JohnDvorak ..and besides, I was running away.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre not plagiarism, it refers to that...
 
Yeah, just saw
 
but not terribly useful either...
 
@MartinJames Schrodinger's cat again.
 
@MartinJames Yes, voltage and current. Good combination for indoor fireworks. TBH, I'm a low-voltage/current person. The lower the current (voltage of 1.2-3.3V is fine for me) the better. This direction has its very own challenges, expecially if you have high currents in proximity (EMC).
 
7:58 PM
<bootlicking>why using Skype when you have SOCVR ? </bootlicking>
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Oh - the cat was dead for sure, as were the transformers and triacs.
 
Makes me think that I have a pinball machine to repair...
 
@JohnDvorak Not if the hardware was carfully designed. But I have seen designs where the voltage dropped below reset voltage at regular intevalls which we could trace back to interrups and DMAs active at the same time. The PSU developer had just used the averge current and used capacitors/coils too small for the max. current. That saved some ct in production, but cost some 1000€ for debugging. For devices with a total of ~10k sold! Do the maths yourself. MBAs …
 
crap because of you guys I missed 40 rep from this: stackoverflow.com/questions/46268221/…
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Who forced you to follow? :-þ
 
8:04 PM
you guys are likeable :) anyway, closed that with a dupe. Maybe not exact, but close enough...
not asking for deletion though. Moses is a useful fellow
 
@Olaf Eww.. a design AND test failure. Two 86's in one project:)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre You should see me without sunglases ;-)
 
I prefer cats :)
 
@Olaf OK, post a pic without the glasses, (but leave the brown, paper bag on).
 
that photo of mine, BTW, is an old photo when I was young and bored in some computer lab...
at least this is me :)
(probably pre-9am which explains the hair)
 
8:08 PM
@MartinJames It was actually the controller who talked the HW-designer into saving those ct. And the HW-eng. was too unexperienced for the project. I actually was there for software-only. First the HW-eng did not listen to my suspection, so I wrote a proof software, "borrowed" an Osci from a colleague and was able to show. It was mostly this which took most time == costs. If he had listened from the beginning ...
@MartinJames How rude!
I use white plastic bags!
@Jean-FrançoisFabre And now you are only bored, right?
 
@Olaf Well, you could flag me, since it's not a question title:)
 
"Once I was young and enthusiastic. Now I'm only young."
@MartinJames Not sure if a mod edits meanwhile (Hmm,can I flag in chat with a flag-ban in SO?)
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Moses? That guy with the proactive aquaphobia?
 
@Olaf: yeah, I may fire a minesweeper or such ;)
Moses? I wouldn't know about his personal life.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre You donm#t know that part he parts the red sea? Heck, I'm almost as far from a bible expert as can be, but that one is common knowledge like Darth Vader is Luke's father.
 
@YvetteColomb seriously?? and this one chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/39182205#39182205 - well if that's how they're taking this, I'll leave this room. You guys deal with this then
@Jean-FrançoisFabre if that's how you feel about this, then take it up with an RO then. I'll just leave this room and uninstall my script.
 
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8:20 PM
@Fred-ii- hey don't overreact - I was making a joke
 
@Olaf some rep hungry user answered...
 
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@Fred-ii- c'mon man - you're better than that - who cares what one person says. @Jean-FrançoisFabre and I were explaining what the other user meant by the comment
 
@MartinJames: "CO2 or dry-powder extinguishers are OK to use on electrical fires" - Some electrical problems are better solved with a sodium-cloride saturated water - finally. Halon might do as well in a closed room without venting. After all more human than CO2. (the breathing reflex triggers on too much CO2, not lack of O2)
 
@Fred-ii- I'm not the one which is bothered by this. As Yvette said, I was just explaining why he said that.
Don't shoot the messenger.
@AnttiHaapala dupehammer please for stackoverflow.com/q/46268420/6451573
then delete please...
 
Thinny-skinny day?
 
8:28 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre hammered... delves need -3 :P are you asking for dv mob here ;)
 
@AnttiHaapala Wait, I'll get my torch and pitchfork …
 
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@AnttiHaapala I think you need to talk to @Fred-ii- He's left the room over your remark.
 
@AnttiHaapala thanks. I think the mob quorum is met :)
@Olaf: admit it, you posted this dupe with your sock puppet account just to prove your point about "everything is a dupe in C"
 
@YvetteColomb that was a reference to the exchange around here.
 
You have to see it to believe it
 
8:35 PM
@YvetteColomb hmm the transcript link doesn't show deleted messages.
 
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@AnttiHaapala there was no problem with that. It's better to let the ROs say something if you think there's a problem. He was a long time helper in here
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels "I want to write my own OS in Java but I'm new to computing...". Yeaeh, joke.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre: indeed. Not too funny though
 
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@rene Fred isn't coming back (I'm on FB with him) until a RO pings him to address this issue - if you can't follow the thread, let me know. Thanks
 
the guy coded a big Java project and knows asm, but he needs tutorials on how to create an OS ? WTF?
@YvetteColomb this Fred fellow is a little touchy right?
 
8:39 PM
@YvetteColomb there wasn't any problem and I thought it was apparent from the emoticon. But then not everyone reads it the same way.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Guinea pigs don't have socks And we cannot handle sock-puppets anyway: no thumb (only ARM).
 
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@Jean-FrançoisFabre not usually
 
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@AnttiHaapala yeh there's a lot of misunderstandings in chat - I just don't want to see regulars leave
 
@YvetteColomb I'm sure this will calm down.
Noone was insulting.
 
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I haven't seen him quit before
 
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8:40 PM
yeh I know
 
@Olaf ok, so you're off the hook.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Hadn't even Sun given up on that one?
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Pew!
 
@Olaf omg I only now realized that thumb <-> ARM... mind blown
 
@Olaf: ARM / thumb just got it (when Antti explained it :))
@Olaf: JavaOS: latest version: 1999 July - JavaOS for Business 2.1, development environment for business from Sun and IBM.
Why do you said it's been given up ? :)
IBM + Sun = great bloatware + $$$ lost for support
 
8:44 PM
@Olaf: not sure, but probably
 
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@Olaf awesome song!!!! :D yeh I begged once - that's enough ;)
 
@YvetteColomb Honestly: I hated Paul Young in the 80ies. But now I really like his songs. Expecially this one and youtube.com/watch?v=SVmjKHkgxis
 
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@Olaf oh I love him and I listen to the 80s music all the time - it was my youth.. how old are you?
 
@AnttiHaapala @Jean-FrançoisFabre Good to see there are still people to get such a nerd pun ;-)
 
not only that but I never realized that thumb and arm are semantically related :P (because of course they thought about that when they decided to name the reduced reduced instruction set as "Thumb", duh)
 
8:49 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Just an impression. Maybe that poster will eventually do it: the OS to end all OS threads (and threats).
 
@Olaf don't push your luck with puns :)
and stop pulling my LEG.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Once you start it, it is hard to stop. But yes, I shall leave it at this. Just FYI: I looked up the exact syntax of "thread" and noticed all variants with h and without and t/d at the end actually are valid (with different meaning). Couldn't resist.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre LEG?-horn?
 
@Olaf Hm? LEG?-honk? Oh. Nevermind...
 
@Olaf: treat/tread/thread/threat nice.
we need more posts to close here :)
 
Another classic.
 
8:58 PM
@Olaf Ah, that one. Didn't remember his name...
 
sigh
do you have simple tutorial for my question ? — pabloescobar 13 hours ago
 
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@Olaf and this
 
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@Machavity ugh
 
OK, need to sleep, cya o/
 
@YvetteColomb more like this
 
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9:04 PM
@honk \o
 
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@Machavity yep - how's the cat?
 
@YvetteColomb I prefer it more than this
But yes, I somewhat like that snotty british voice and attitude of Byan Adams.
 
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@YvetteColomb I just watched the other version of the music video yesterday (with some rum intus). Hmm, I really should watch the movie again. One of the best movies imo.
 
@YvetteColomb The cone has helped, but my wife found something that really fits her behavior well
 
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9:10 PM
@Olaf ikr - emotional
 
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@Machavity oh poor darling
 
@YvetteColomb Sure. I have very strong relations to music. Never could stand this commercial sh**. Most kids can't follow this, they just know music as spottyfy/etc. warez.
 
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@Olaf my kids like some of my music - it's good I've brain washed them :)
 
@YvetteColomb I'm getting old. But still … youtube.com/watch?v=ljIQo1OHkTI
 
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@Olaf nice
 
9:19 PM
Anyway, Jim Kerr just does not have this arrogant sound in his voice like Adams (or Bowie sometimes, btw) has. Sorry, I lack better words to describe it.
@YvetteColomb Oh, I think could lead a whole conversation just with songs titles. Not sure if you know most of them, though.
 
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@Olaf from the 90s - mainstream - yes
 
@YvetteColomb 80ies actually. In the 90ies I was even more into independent and from ca. mid-90ies I discovered the 70ies: Tangerine Dream (the 70ies works actually), Mike Oldfield and Pink Floyd (deeper). Never forgot about my roots, though.
 
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@Olaf oh I meant 80s! Not the 90s
 
So much about my music heroes
 
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it's sad - love Bowie
 
9:26 PM
You saw hisLazarus? What a video and song! The man was >70!
What I like specifically is his humor and how relaxed he is in interviews. youtube.com/watch?v=P4d8QrRJvsE
 
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@Olaf never saw it - amazing
 
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@Olaf have you seen this imdb.com/title/tt0085933? I cried
 
@YvetteColomb The text sounds like his biography actually. At least there're a lot of line which pretty much sould like stations in his life. Can't help, but I always get tears in my eyes hearing this.
@YvetteColomb I have the DVD since many years actually.
Even bought the Ryuichi Sakamoto soundtrack CD
 
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@Olaf we're kindred spirits on the music front
 
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I better go - drop my son to station
 
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9:32 PM
nice to chat
 
@YvetteColomb Everytime. See you!
 
@Olaf: Yes, I bought that soundtrack too, years back. It touched me. Strange that this should be brought up and that folks here would know the same esoteric music.
 
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@HovercraftFullOfEels there's a few of us oldies around ;)
 
@YvetteColomb: it's not just age, since that soundtrack is not what I'd call part of the common music vernacular.
I've even tried to play a piano arrangement of the main theme.
 
Hmm, David Sylvian, another singer with that "special" voice youtube.com/watch?v=x1YkHJJi-tc
Heck, YT really is a wormhole to the past.
Looks like I have to add twitter to my list of unsuitable resources for learning C: stackoverflow.com/questions/46268956/…
@HovercraftFullOfEels I find it interesting to see how people from very different locations apparently share quite a lot of memories. Even more, as this is not a "fine old music" chat (I suppose;).
 
9:43 PM
Indeed. I remember going to the movie theater with my cousin to see that movie when it first came out.
On the flip side, I think a lot of coders are also musicians
More Homework dumps
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Not the ones I know. Most are not even interested much in Music, but more films and tv-series.
Ok, one last vid for today: youtube.com/watch?v=3xZmlUV8muY
 
10:03 PM
^Unclear / no specific problem description
 
10:26 PM
and inexplicably up-voted
 
no upvote there
 
Are ANY of those questions with silly and unreasonable constraints, (and unexplained, 'cos all homework), useful in any positive way to future SO users/visitors? I think no.
 
begging the question, with "silly and unreasonable"
 
@MartinJames Nothing is useless. It can always be used as a bad example. Point is: we have enough bad examples already, no need for more.
 
@JohnDvorak 'Do this with recursion instead of the obvious loop' is silly and unreasonable for any purpose except the setting of homework.
 
10:34 PM
or an interview
 
@JohnDvorak ..for which a reasonable answer would be 'Why on earth, or off-earth if spacecraft code, would anyone want to waste time on testing and debugging 'clever' code, I prefer to develop code that works quickly, rather than quickly works - it saves money overall, boosting profits'.
 
I need to stop reading fantasy novels and go to sleep. I'm startig to read 'newcomer' as 'necromancer'.
 
It's kind of the same thing, actually
 
@JohnDvorak Well, the newcomers outsource their expired code to SO so we can try to rasie it from the dead. Necromancers have to ressurect their own code.
Anyway, sleep. afk
 
10:48 PM
Ah, non. They resurrect old problems so that we have to kill them again.
 
11:40 PM
@AnttiHaapala My ears! Heard it to this room already.
 
Love how the answerer is asking the OP to accept the answer. I gave him a -1 instead
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Wait 10 minutes and it will be -2. Meanwhile I tried my regained flag-privilege and flagged thhe comment as "unnecessary".
 
@Olaf: thanks. I forgot about flagging the comment, and just did the same myself.
 
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