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18:01
@NathanOliver I clicked Makyen's pinned links
he uses a weird search parameter though
@TylerH Possibly - I'm kind of of the school that obvious requirements dumps should be closed right away and if the OP edits to show what they tried it can be reopened. It seems like it's almost never the case that they actually tried something.
@EJoshuaS I agree, just thinking that, since it's much harder to get a question reopened than closed, it's not asking too much to give them thirty minutes to a couple hours to fix their post, depending on its severity
hmm. That still doesn't show anything I get in the result text 458 matches but nothing is displayed. I wonder if the is the cv-review user script filtering things out.
@NathanOliver why would it filter out results on a static search?
not sure
18:03
@TylerH Not sure about that one actually, the reopen queue is far from being as clogged up as the cv queue.
@BaummitAugen People hold stuff to a much higher standard when voting to reopen
and there's also no group dedicated to doing it
@EJoshuaS Moved to the next stage...
To all of those running for mod, just wanted to say, "Good luck"
@PraveenKumar Till "code do us part".
18:12
Yea...
Just 26 hours until the election is decided
I had the sandwich. It was good.
@NathanOliver will there be room elections for a new RO if you are elected site moderator?
@Compass You didn't save any for me?!?!!1!
18:18
@TylerH Not sure. If I don't have to recuse myself from RO'ship to be a mod then I don't see why we would need another RO. If I do then that will be up to the other RO's to decide.
@NathanOliver Gotcha. I don't see any need for recusal off the top of my head; I'm just thinking from a time constraint POV
@TylerH @NathanOliver, The Unclosed Request Review script filters out [cv-pls] tagged message with links to closed/deleted questions and those without links. The links to pages 2 & 3 should be blank at this point. We have significantly reduced the queue, there are now 27 open [cv-pls] requests.
and bad db design if you ask me
@Fred-ii- commenting under OP "you should ask Fred if that's bad db design" :-P
One does not simply save a sandwich.
18:20
@TylerH LMHO!
Those are dupes of each other btw
oh, no I just had it open in two tabs
so technically I wasn't wrong...
well I had a good chuckle
technically, no
@TylerH Weird parameter? Which one? Those should be the links as generated from the "requests" button provided by the Unclosed request review script, as it only works on specific links.
18:21
When the tab bar looks like a toblerone bar you know you're an SO addict :)
@NathanOliver normal or during their 'scam the public' phase?
gotta love an answer on an OOOooooverly broad question
I love my comment about the envelopes, stamps and sponge.
@TylerH That's very common. Deep-frozen pizzas were much bigger some years ago, so they did not even fit on the plate. Now there is eveen some free space I can hold the (same) plate. That's why I always check the weight.
18:27
@SmokeDetector voted to delete. Not sure what is going on there.
@NathanOliver User trying to perform XSS, check contents of the link
@Nkosi & @gunr2171 Both Greasemonkey (GM) and Tampermonkey (TM) auto-update scripts if the script is installed directly from a URL detected as a user script, or if the script explicitly declares an @downloadURL or @updateURL (which scripts normally don't, as recommended in the docs). To have GM and TM auto-detect a user script you are installing from GitHub, click on the [Raw] button. Here is a GIF showing what happens in TM. GM is similar.
@Makyen Thx will check it out
hum, ok. I stand corrected then. I haven't uh, didn't think about this beforehand tampered with TM much before
I manually copied them over from FF, creating the scripts one by one.
I'll remove them and do it over directly from the source.
18:33
.... I've never seen anyone tag a question with both and before now
You saw that too? crazy
@Justin it's happened way more often than you think
Yeah it was tagged with all 3. Had to retag.
usually it's java, c#, and c++
Yep
But more often than not, it's not an example copied from a java book
18:36
@Justin I've seen one even toss PHP into that mix as well. Once you cross 2 unrelated language tags you're one taco short of an enchilada
"How can I make this program?"
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@BaummitAugen I've seen this form a lot
@BaummitAugen Some people don't care about how it works just that it does ;)
Yeah, that's pretty common. :)
This question in particular is crazy.... the code the OP posted looks like System.out.println { "some text");
....
18:38
@Nkosi That's how I read what you wrote. It sounded like a pain in the rear. Doing it over, installing from the sources, is probably a good idea. I usually only copy things over by hand when I've customized the script. I've done it quite a bit to test script modifications in different browsers/user script managers. It's a pain. I would not manually copy scripts that are unmodified from what is released.
Evening everyone, I'm back from my holiday
@milo526 I have yet to come up with a usecase where really any of those 5 would be fine. XD
@Justin Obviously C90 syntax. =D
Hey Ferry o/
Did you have fun?
I've not hanged out long enough in this room to get the full vibe, is it proper for me to dump a link to an question here asking what you think about this or is there another room better suited for that kind of questions (seems to be a homework question)
@milo526 Yeah you can ask us what we think about a question. What is should be closed as, whether we think it should be closed.
18:41
@milo526 You should read the "FAQ" socvr.org/faq - then if you're unsure about something, feel free to ask.
@milo526 If you want us to judge whether it should be open or closed you can do that here. Also that ^
Okay, will read while some of you might judge: stackoverflow.com/questions/45420544/…
I never knew the Teslas had a front trunk
Now I know.
`i.ytimg.com/vi/fTHHOfrWFqs/maxresdefault.jpg apparently large enough to store a hooman
@milo526 That's definitely too broad. There's 2 questions, and each of them is too broad
and knowledge is power
18:43
Makes sense, seeing as the cylinders on the engine take up a huge amount of space.
@Compass ??? there is no engine
@NathanOliver Actually red and blue lasers are power. Knowing is just half the battle
I guess the motor is the engine
@Compass How many cats with bread on their head, would that convert to?
18:49
Approximately nine.
One for each life?
That's morbid D:
@Makyen fixed. pulled them directly from Github just like in the gif and everything is as it should be. Thank you.
@Nkosi I'm glad it worked. Now we just need some updates to test it :-). [This is a dig at myself, as I've been working on various scripts, but not gotten to the point of filing pull requests yet].
@VadimKotov Yes, cv-pls requests for old, inactive questions are inappropriate, except in specific circumstances (e.g. a tag going through the official burniate process: with meta announcement, etc.). However, that doesn't mean we can't put some CVs towards a particularly egregious tag. The easiest way is for you to go through the Qs casting the first close vote (only 233 more rep! :-) ). Others, if they choose & have spare CVs, can then use the tools to filter Qs with close votes for that tag.
Flagging the questions (instead of an actual close-vote) will also work, but limits the tools we can use (i.e. we can only use the actual close-vote queue).
19:05
\o
That was a fast run as communications director.
19:13
@Compass a week!
Do people at that level of experience need resumes?
@Compass No, they just get recommended and get a call
they go through interviews but it's more for things like background checks than real interviews
because people do research on them to see everything they've ever written or said so that there's not much point in an interview.
At least, that's how it's supposed to happen at that level
Spoopy
I had to modify my resume for this EMBA prescreen
Last year they told me I didn't have enough work and leadership experience
What probably happened was Trump said "I want Reince out" and someone else was like "Pick Scaramucci, he's good people, trust me" so Trump said "make it happen"
This year I managed to convert 0 years of leadership experience into 3+
19:18
wut
Creative lifetime editing?
No
I was an EMT.
EMTs have to be Unit Officers.
So I was an EMT for 3 years, but never mentioned I was a unit officer =w=
What is a Unit Officer?
There's this vehicle called an amboolance.
Someone has to be in charge of the amboolance and patient care.
Someone has to drive the amboolance.
The unit officer is in charge of the amboolance and patient care.
@Compass So it's either amtruelance or amfalselance?
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19:21
and if it's an amBoolance it may not have enough funding.
I wasn't high on the food chain, but I was the officer in charge of the unit
At most, I'd get to tell a group of firefighters what to do.
Hun. Never though about it that way. I guess that works as management.
Mostly "help me carry this obese 400 lb person because I do not want to be a splatcat."
It always bothered me how obese people managed to live on the 3rd or 4th floor of a building with no elevator.
How... did you get there?!
@Compass there's a window; it's faster than taking the elevator. Least, on the way down that is.
Also, post 9/11, everyone down to unit officers needs to be trained in incident command.
@Compass Slow and steady. emphasis on slow
19:23
We are not dedicating a ladder to extricating a person =w=
We did have a tool called the Stair Chair which allowed us to take people down stairs
but its still tough carrying a 400 lb person in a chair.
The original chair was crud but it was lightweight.
The upgraded chair was made of steel and had treads, but it was easily 30 lbs.
@Compass well, it works better than this
Extrication of people is inordinately tough when the majority of people are obese.
Since obesity leads to other health risks.
We need to dedicate 6 or so people to just get someone out of a house.
When we had people who could walk, it was fantastic.
Luckily I didn't have any severe car crashes on my call
Did CPR a few times
That was a past life though. Now I am compooterkitty
@milo526 Hi, what is missing according to you?, maybe post a comment?
19:39
@FireAlarm hmm...*very* low-effort question, but unless there's a dupe, I don't think we can close it
@LunarWatcher I was mostly wondering about the minimal part ;) not at all requesting more information, it seems like a plain code dump
@FireAlarm Is this close enough for a dupe target? I don't really think it is
Or how about this? That looks a lot closer
19:49
@milo526 probably you wanted to respond to me ;), it's a debugging request, sure maybe he could try to make it more minimal (the java bean), but it would no change the question much, not sure mcve is right, a duplicate would be better, but I don't have enough experience in jsf, weblogic (my guess is that it's problem during the build)
20:13
@milo526 It is also a request for off-site resources
I'm out for the day, out of close votes now. Cya all later
@SmokeDetector Author clearly states affiliation
@milo526 Yeah the question is the problem
@PetterFriberg JF removed the tool rec stuff, but it's still too broad
@NobodyNada Yeah I see not sure it was good to remove it, the answers are more or less all tools
@PetterFriberg It's OK to post a tool-rec answer to a non-tool-rec question
as long as it's a good answer that explains how to use the tool to make a graph, instead of just saying "buy my product it's awesome"
20:25
@NobodyNada I agree but removing that user is looking for tool makes it too broad, hence not sure the edit has sense, you may only risk people flagging answers as VLQ
anyway no problem, however I will not retract vote
I actually think that JF invalidated all answer with that edit, since now it states how to solve the problem with graphviz's dot and geph, when instead everybody answer "any other apps that I could us"
 
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user3956566
22:30
Can we have delete votes on this stackoverflow.com/questions/45426214/… >20k please?
user3956566
or maybe there's a mod in the house
user3956566
@BaummitAugen morning eyes with no tree :D
Morning! o/
@YvetteColomb Voted, but would have roomba'd anyways.
user3956566
@BaummitAugen yes true
21.5h til the big hour strikes
22:35
@NathanOliver, @gunr2171, or any RO: My comment regarding 113 open cv-pls requests no longer needs to be pinned to the star wall. We're down to 22 open requests, which is quite reasonable. I'd prefer we don't over-use such notifications, as I want people to feel it's really something to act on when they do see one. My thanks to whoever did pin it.
user3956566
22:57
I don't know what to do - my neighbour has all these old books - some dating back to the 1800s and they're being collected this morning to be tipped at the rubbish dump.
user3956566
I feel a moral obligation to take them :/
Isn't there some second hand bookstore willing to take them, or some library?
Or maybe put the on ebay, so some interested collector can have them.
@YvetteColomb Take them. Period. Worst case is sell them on eBay or donate them to a library.
user3956566
@Makyen yep
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@BaummitAugen my neighbour said she'd tried everything
user3956566
23:06
There's a whole collection from 1873 of leather bound journals
Then ebay is best I guess.
user3956566
Her late husband was a university professor in the History and Philosophy of Science and had an interest in historical things
user3956566
worse case - is we have a collection of old books
user3956566
I can't bare the thought of them being tipped and destroyed
@YvetteColomb Cool. That's a great find. I'd take them, even if I ended up having to sleep on them. ;-)
23:07
You still need somewhere to put them. Storage room isn't free either.
user3956566
@Makyen lolol
user3956566
@BaummitAugen exactly! we live in apartments and my storage lockers are full - but I wouldn't like to keep them in the garages anyway - I'd prefer to have them upstairs. Behind glass would be better
The last time I had to deal with something like this (furniture instead of books, so even more space issues, also not quite as old), eBay worked out very well.
Not much money was made, but some of the buyers were quite happy.
user3956566
@BaummitAugen I don't want money - I want someone who can house them and preserve them
user3956566
I'm also on fb asking friends - and getting some leads.
23:13
Someone looking for old books on eBay probably fits that criterion.
@YvetteColomb Which you usually get when you sell them to someone on eBay. If they are paying money for it, they aren't doing it to destroy the book.
user3956566
@BaummitAugen yep
user3956566
@Makyen of course
user3956566
I think because they're of a scientific matter that people are not so interested - I dunno - I figure anyone with a love of books would find them interesting
23:29
@YvetteColomb I would expect so too. Yeah, sure, scientific books from that era are going to be outdated, but I'm not sure how that's a problem. It's not like someone would be getting them in order to use them as textbooks in a current STEM class.
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