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user4639281
12:57 AM
@TinyGiant That one will probably be too broad by the time the debugging question requirements are satisfied.
 
user4639281
I feel like answering a question or two, off to the close vote queue I go
 
user4639281
> I have no code because its a question
 
user4639281
1:57 AM
There, found a question to answer in the CVQ and answered it.
 
@YvetteColomb Killed
 
user3956566
@Pang thanks
 
user4639281
8:13 AM
I can't see myself ever using Docs. The lack of direction and consistency, as well as the format make it unusable.
 
9:37 AM
@TinyGiant That was my conclusion too after trying to work with it.
 
10:00 AM
 
10:27 AM
@BhargavRao Good idea! Done.
!>stop
 
For the heatdetector, we took that data. :D
 
I'd like to consult you English-speaking guys about a culture difference issue.
Say if you hang out with your friends, and you're sitting at a table, about to eat meal.
Is it allowed to ask such questions here?
 
morning
 
10:42 AM
@ZhengquanBai I can't judge that nor is this room geared to helping out on that kind of stuff. Sorry. We in general try to stay away from that kind of discussions. Please see our FAQ to learn where this chatroom is about.
 
Okay. I got it.
 
np
 
11:24 AM
@FOX9000 Good edit
 
11:47 AM
This guy claims Javascript's gone mad, and for one, I have to agree
 
Can anyone who is into PHP check if there is something in the comments that isn't addressed in the answer?
 
Hiya
 
@rene The latest comment is younger than the latest revision
 
@rene I thought they were all purged for reasons of sanity
 
@JanDvorak ah, didn't notice that, I'll leave them then
 
11:57 AM
 
12:09 PM
@Kyll that edit you just rejected sure does "make sense as an edit"
 
@JanDvorak Even in the context of the question? Since the question asks for tool, pointing to a new / updated version of a tool should be its own answer
 
I feel like it could go either way
Basically, I meant that as a question rather than a complaint. Thanks.
 
12:25 PM
does this have value: stackoverflow.com/q/7919261/578411 I would assume a duplicate would be available but I'm not sure if the Java one would be correct here?
 
@JanDvorak np. I was kinda meh on that edit, better just close the whole thing
 
@rene it would be correct
 
yes
 
@rene yes it would be correct
classic NPE
 
Ok, dupe voted
 
12:56 PM
Would this be NAA or VLQ or something else. stackoverflow.com/a/5518461/578411
 
VLQ
delete-voted
 
I don't have that option to flag as VLQ
 
Yeah it's too old. Hence the delete vote
Well, you were ninjad.
 
1:16 PM
@Rizier, Can you confirm if this is a dupe? stackoverflow.com/questions/6804328/… Thanks
 
@BhargavRao Was not a dupe. The dupe was about invalid property names, while the question was about something different.
 
Thanks. You helped reduce the size of the mod queue. :)
 
:)
 
And he doesn't even get a waffle for that :o
 
If that is the goal I'll stop flagging
 
1:24 PM
@rene If only everyone on SO did that :D
 
Post on meta? ;)
Or just ban the flaggers, pr0blam solved
 
Lol, I'll have to ban Andy first. He pumps 100 flags into the queue in 3 mins :D
 
Ah, his automation is running ;)
 
A comment on a link only answer - "This link tells that link only answers are bad"
 
1:41 PM
questions needs votes too says who?
 
inline the image?
bah voted to delete
 
:/
 
2:04 PM
> give me solution
 
:/
 
I don't understand how posting an image is quicker then just copy-paste the code?
Is there a plugin or so?
I have the feeling there is a mod lurking ...
 
bah ^
 
2:20 PM
Meh, it's just vlq.
 
afk
The people answering the Java tag are already annoying me
 
@Tunaki why bah? I checked that site, it is riddled with ads and non-sense.
 
Maybe it is legitimate nonsense?
 
2:41 PM
Yeah, that might be an interpretation issue based on opinions
The French can have it
 
3:03 PM
OP provides another question in comment; looks like XY problem with the other question being the actual problem.
 
user3956566
3:28 PM
reject please it can imply customer support
 
user3956566
> does not clarify that it purely is for programming, it could imply use for customer support.
 
Eh, I still prefer descriptive tag wikis over empty tag wikis.
 
user3956566
better empty than incorrect
 
Who's watching AGDG, by the way?
 
user3956566
?
 
user3956566
ah k, nope (obviously)
 
It's a speedrunning marathon annual event
 
user3956566
nice
 
I've seen a speedrun of Pokemon Blue done in six seconds or so
 
user3956566
I think our mammalian @Kyll showed me things like this
 
3:48 PM
Am I right that the closing of a question somehow invalidates the reviews on an answer? What is the rationale behind that? The link in that answer is useless atm
 
IDK, queue invalidation is rather complicated. Even Shog needs more than a page to explain it.
 
Hmm. But then at least clean-up the mess if you invalidate pending reviews
 
Hi
 
@YvetteColomb I probably did, I'm a TAS and speedrun fan
Pokémon was beaten in 60 seconds thanks to a glitch which allowed going deeper than the game intends into the inventory, so that the items you see are actually RAM values. TASers then switch some values (for example by dropping an object, setting the value to 0) so as to manipulate the game into executing the end-game code sooner.
Took 15 years or so to find a way to do it in such a quick time
 
non-TAS? That's crazy
 
"glitched" doesn't even begin to describe it :-D
 
I'm betting he's going to corrupt the memory using sorta safe ways
 
The best part was the show the guy put around it
 
You can hear the button mashing during the dialogues
Woah that guy tears it
Very nice, thanks Jan
@JanDvorak Do you watch Super Mario 64 TASes?
 
4:17 PM
I haven't yet
 
There's been one of the craziest improvement in years recently. It involves parallel universes. youtube.com/watch?v=TkOkJvLKxUY
 
Thanks for the link. I'll check it out after AGDQ
 
yay SMG2, I really liked this game
What will the TASBot run be on?
 
4:34 PM
Sounds like there will be a TAS run for SMG2
 
@JanDvorak Oh, sexy
Checking the schedule
 
Where's the schedule?
 
Thanks
 
NES Classic, SMB3, MegaMan 1, Link to the Past
And Community Choice.
 
4:40 PM
I'm looking forward to the Undertale speedrun
 
True Pacifist, hence 100%
 
Would it be possible to set watch two streams at once, one with each ear?
Firefox / Win10
Ooh, Dark Souls 3 should be interesting
 
Probably not without specialized software
Plop Thaill- Woah, what happened to your avatar?
Oh wait it loads when I click
Weird.
 
dem skips...
 
5:09 PM
@Kyll tabs or spaces?
 
@Braiam I don't care. If one has to be chosen, tabs
Otherwise, project default.
Why?
 
5:23 PM
Quickly, banish Kyll from this room!
 
Heh, good try
Plop hasn't gotten me banished, tabs certainly won't!
 
user4639281
6:13 PM
sup homies?
 
Nuthin, tiny
 
@TinyGiant Your message
 
user4639281
@Kyll Only if your monitor is oriented correctly
 
@TinyGiant Wait, it's off
 
user4639281
:P
 
6:28 PM
> "ooh, hitbox" "nice!"
 
6:51 PM
@Braiam We can't do that, he has threatened to plop every single one of us otherwise :(
 
7:19 PM
@Tunaki I will bring the big guns... paging Bart
 
7:58 PM
It is funny to see a mod close something and immediate have a re-open vote on it: stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/14886872
 
user4639281
@rene There's no reopen vote on that
 
Hmm, you're right. How did it end-up in the queue then?
 
user4639281
Not sure
 
user4639281
Hasn't been edited
 
Is that because they don't trust mods?
I can imagine they want to keep on eye on Martijn ;)
 
8:02 PM
@Tunaki meeh maybe because we built or lib on swing... but javafx is like android... so we need to say it's crap..
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
> Sufficiently popular, where popularity is calculated based on question score, top answer score, or views per month. We're still tweaking the exact thresholds for these.
 
@TinyGiant No, it's difintely that
 
user4639281
So every high scoring post that we close ends up in the reopen queue directly afterwards.
 
user4639281
That explains why they have a tendency to be reopened.
 
user4639281
8:05 PM
Someone sees a high scoring post in the reopen queue and votes to reopen solely because it is a high scoring post
 
Pfff
another reason to only focus on the new stuff
@TinyGiant left a comment for Shog there
 
user4639281
upvoted yer comment for Shog there.
 
dat voting ring
 
user4639281
comment repz 4 teh whale
 
8:25 PM
It is by design, shog replied
 
user4639281
Quick everyone! Pick a color! It's extremely important!
 
#00FF00
 
user4639281
Well that's not very exciting
 
#00000000
 
user4639281
that's not even a color
 
8:32 PM
That's not a color.
 
@TinyGiant I picked one, now what do I do?
 
user4639281
@Tunaki Tell me what it is :P
 
@TinyGiant it is
 
ok
@TinyGiant what it is :P
 
it is AARRGGBB
 
user4639281
8:33 PM
@ColdFire Black is a shade
 
user4639281
@Tunaki That doesn't sound like a color I've ever heard of
 
But it's not black. It's transparent.
 
user4639281
transparent is not a color either
 
1 min ago, by Glorfindel
That's not a color.
 
Yep, it's a colour.
 
8:34 PM
^
 
Not a color
 
user4639281
This is about as useful as talking to myself
 
Oh I have this color, it's AMAZING, like so beautiful you could stare at it for hours
 
8:51 PM
@Pro, Regarding EditMonitor. Q: Are you monitoring suggested edits on tag wikis also? If yes, Then Add plagiarism to the list of rejection reasons here and report those too! (There are a lot of those being approved). If No, Then I'll fork it.
 
@BhargavRao I'm afraid that EM's way of fetching new edits, doesn't work with tag wiki edits.
 
Aren't they returned by the API?
 
I'll look at it again.
 
Doesn't seem to.
 
No, based on the suggested_edit type, it can't have tag wiki edits.
 
8:56 PM
> post_type : one of question, or answer
Sorry for the false alarm.
 
@Sot Do you have a dupe for stackoverflow.com/questions/41652947/… I've been searching for 10 minutes, I have things that are 99% dupe like stackoverflow.com/questions/32471499/… (the answer is exactly the same but code in question slightly different) I'm going mad
 
@BhargavRao Ah, alright. Too bad! Feel free to let me know if you see that it got added.
 
@ProgramFOX Pinged Kevin there. But I don't expect it to be added in the next 6-8 years.
There are a lot of FRs ignored regarding the API. :|
 
yes...
 
user4639281
@BhargavRao inorite?
 
user4639281
9:04 PM
That's not me BTW, that's Giant Dwarf
 
Mods can view even the hidden accounts. :D
(It was mentioned somewhere on MSE, So not new info)
 
user4639281
:P
 
user4639281
Funny, I don't remember getting a notification for that last comment there
 
9:19 PM
It isn't your post, why should you get the notification ...
 
Plop and welcome @Greg, I just saw the mention of Floern
If you're wondering how the room works, feel free to ask or check our FAQ.
 
user4639281
9:37 PM
@rene I mean... er... nevermind
 
\o/
 
> edited by mistake
 
?
 
@rene Edit description of the above report.
 
yeah, I saw it
 
user4639281
9:56 PM
@FOX9000 That's the best question title I ever did see
 
user4639281
> making my code right
 
Just saw this on triage and I'm not really sure what the right way to deal with it is. It's written in Spanish but does seem to be about programming so I just flagged unclear. Is that the right way to deal with it?
 
@Signal if you don't understand a word of it, then it's definitely unclear
 
@Signal definitely
 
10:05 PM
SO does exist in Spanish however, but I think since so few questions are posted in spanish on the english SO a migrate option would be a waste of time
 
@Signal Check Tiny's link, should give you all necessary guidance
 
Reading now, thanks
 
@TinyGiant Oh wow, actually relevant moderation-centric content in the starboard, without a pin! Waddayaknow.
 
user4639281
I know, I can't believe it
 
user4639281
 
10:07 PM
Orange.
 
user4639281
yup
 
I don't want to hate it, but you made it orange.
 
user4639281
Well, I asked for colors, all I got was nonsense, so I went with nonsense
2
 
You asked Tunaki didn't you.
layout-wise I like it
 
user4639281
Yeah, Tunaki is great at that, eh?
 
10:09 PM
I like orange, it's like all the buttons in the chat UI
 
@approxiblue Orange is fine in dark layouts
 
user4639281
Unfortunately the color used in the chat UI looked horrible, so I had to use a different but similar orange
 
@FOX9000 Eeeh
 
user4639281
its an improvement
 
user4639281
@Kyll what color would be preferable?
 
user4639281
10:12 PM
I don't need an exact color, just the name of a color
 
@TinyGiant SOCVR is five letters. use an 8-bit ASCII table to map it to 5/6 of a colour, then fill the rest?
 
user4639281
hmm
 
user4639281
 
Better. With some more red in that blue?
 
user4639281
 
10:20 PM
too much facebook for me
 
user4639281
Colors are fun
 
I vote orange
 
user4639281
One vote for orange
 
I'm for the second blue
 
I vote for unicorn rainbow color with a waffly shine
 
10:21 PM
What about making this a meeting poll?
 
user4639281
starts smashing head on desk
 
Or call @gunr and schedule a dedicated meeting
 
user4639281
 
@TinyGiant Wait can we start over, my monitor was off
 
user4639281
continues smashing head on desk
 
10:25 PM
I've decided that I'm fine with anything because I will use custom style to make it orange
 
I'm fine with anything that's not bad
 
user4639281
 
@TinyGiant Made it the colour of your blood-covered desk?
 
user4639281
Yes
 
magenta
 
10:27 PM
Also meh, actually looks somewhat aggressive
 
@TinyGiant Red is generally a bad idea from a UI point of view. It is usually a stop/attention signal.
 
user4639281
 
@Tiny What about rene's yellow?
 
user4639281
What's rene's yellow?
 
rene's profile pic yellow
or you can use rene's pic as a repeating background for the header
 
user4639281
10:29 PM
Yellow can never be dark enough to use with white
 
user4639281
Otherwise it would be orange
 
user4639281
Nah, yellow just looks bad. Would have to use a dark background
 
user4639281
No one has anything to say about purple?
 
depends on which purple
 
10:32 PM
Darker purple?
 
@Signal IMO, the Off-topicâžžbelongs on another site (Migration)âžžSE Site should allow us to specify any site on the SE network, not just a very few select ones.
 
Darple.
 
user4639281
@approxiblue The one I linked above.
 
@TinyGiant Use this as inspiration for a background color choice :D
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@makyen I believe I saw ameta post on this, one sec
 
10:33 PM
@Makyen It's been rejected because then migrations could overwhelm smaller sites
 
user4639281
@Rizier123 Thanks, now I'm jerking around on the floor having a seizure.
 
user4639281
@Makyen No one wants questions from us.
 
user4639281
@Kyll Darple?
 
@TinyGiant Also that
@TinyGiant I like.
 
@Kyll While the reason might be more complex, the short version is not reasonable. That's basically saying "Our question and answer site doesn't want questions, because we would be overwhelmed with questions."
 
user4639281
10:35 PM
@Kyll Well that's a relief. Anyone else got druthers?
 
@Makyen No, but because poor migrations could represent more than what a small SE site high-rep users can handle
 
@TinyGiant resident expert
 
user4639281
@Makyen More like "Our question and answer site doesn't want questions from your question and answer site, because they are all crap"
 
@Tunaki =D
 
user4639281
@Tunaki :P
 
user4639281
10:37 PM
@Kyll that lasted a while eh?
 
I vote for green
 
@TinyGiant So long for 2017 resolutions.
 
user4639281
@Tunaki light or dark?
 
@Tunaki That's nonsense
 
light
 
10:38 PM
Ew
 
user4639281
More blue or more yellow?
 
Just green
 
user4639281
 
Ew
 
@TinyGiant While I understand that most questions posted on SO which are more appropriate for another site are crap, not having them migrated is a poor way to handle it. No need to hash it out here, I'm sure if I search there will be at least one question about it on meta.
 
10:40 PM
more yellow and more blue
 
user4639281
@Makyen There are many questions about it, the consensus is to direct the user to the relevant help center and close the question.
 
Also, too straight
 
user4639281
@Tunaki I'm putting you in my ignore list.
 
round the corners a bit
 
136
Q: Flagging migration should include more options

ZeMoonI have encountered numerous questions in with the sprite-kit tag such as: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23215645/should-i-use-sprite-kit-for-a-simple-game-like-flappy-bird-or-games-that-simpler These questions do not belong on SO, but when I flag them and choose Other Reason -> Off-topic -...

 
10:43 PM
@TinyGiant How many colors are you wanting to have in the UI? Pick a number, usually 2, 3 or 4. Then use a tool to select a palette of complementary colors. Don't just pick one (unless you are sure you are only going to use one).
 
@TinyGiant I don't like this... that's w3schools green
 
try random, there's a change we'll get a nice one
Oh
make it user configurable, #NotYourProblem anymore
 
user4639281
@Makyen I pick the complementary colors based on the primary color.
 
user4639281
I am a tool
4
 
this was the light green I had in mind en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shades_of_green#Light_green
 
user4639281
10:47 PM
ew
 
^
 
ok let's move to blue then
wait
why does it need to be a uniform color
 
We already rejected rainbow, Tuna
 
@Kyll Thanks. Obviously, the other options are to just have "belongs on another site (Migration)" as an option, or an "other" option on the list (and let a moderator pick, which is more or less what the top answer on that question says to do, but with a custom flag). My issue is that there is a good off-topic selection (Migration) that has a limited set, without "other".
 
80% green, growing as a circle, and the rounded corners light blue
or just the bottom corners
 
user4639281
10:49 PM
 
@Tunaki I feel like I'm going to trash this message because you've just lowered the poor taste bar to new lows.
 
I'm not even at the stripes :(
 
@TinyGiant is a cheese
Also ew.
 
@TinyGiant While that is a reasonable start, and knowing which general range of primary to start with is good, I have often found that it is a good idea to be willing to significantly adjust the primary based on what the complimentary colors end up being (some are not suitable).
 
user4639281
Do we seriously need to have a room meeting topic about the color scheme?
4
 
10:50 PM
\o/
 
We need a poll
 
And what better time to poll than the room meeting
 
user4639281
Y'all realize I pretty much own the starboard right now, right?
 
Disagree
 
@Makyen Meh, these options cover most use-cases. If you find some high-quality post that would have a better life elsewhere, and it isn't simple for OP to just delete it and repost it there, then a flag works.
 
10:52 PM
You don't even have any pins
 
user4639281
@Tunaki what?
 
@TinyGiant Yeah
 
so sneaky, so Magicâ„¢
 
user4639281
Not at all
 
user4639281
> You have already voted, but the voting has been cleared by a moderator
 
user4639281
10:53 PM
I ain't no moderator
 
user4639281
^^ Thats what happens if you try to repin a pin that you've previously pinned and unpinned
 
Sounds like a title for a Meta post
And once you've reached all the glory with it, you'll thank me for this productive color conversation.
 
@TinyGiant No no, we don't need a meeting topic just for that, we need an entire meeting just about the color scheme! :p
 
user4639281
resumes smashing head against remains of blood covered desk
 
What did the desk ever do to you?!
6
 
10:58 PM
@Tunaki Didn't pick a colour. he took the hit for all of us. This desk is a hero, ma... fish.
 
user4639281
It willingly provided itself as a sacrifice
 
user4639281
 
It was a helpful desk. A... help desk.
 
@Kyll I agree that it is sufficient, it just isn't good user-focused UI. The fact that a user-closing needs to send a custom flag is not easily discoverable from the user's perspective. To know that is the right choice requires that the user-closing knows that in advance and does not let a consensus be shown that it is the reason that question should be closed. It also does not provide good information to the question's OP.
 
@TinyGiant too much blue
 
10:59 PM
@TinyGiant Meh
 
I like mdn blue
 
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