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4:02 PM
@TylerH The peaceful bees are actually european bees. They indeed might be used to km and get exhausted flying the longer distances.
 
@NathanOliver we did. But it never got implemented everywhere because we're a free country
so everyone was free to go tell the govt to shove off
 
@TylerH I still wonder why you speak a (more or less) common language. Isn't that also against freedom?
 
Isn't it NAA?
 
@Olaf no?
we're free to speak whatever language we choose
 
@PraveenKumar that's an answer
 
4:05 PM
@PraveenKumar Not sure. Could have been explained better, for sure.
 
everyone just chooses English because it has the best cuss words
 
I have two minds on it.
 
But using a common, plausible and well designed measuring system is? Wow!
 
@PraveenKumar It fits my understanding of VLQ
 
4:06 PM
Ha ha ha...
@πάνταῥεῖ Yup... So VLQ also stands.
 
!!/location
 
@ThomasWard teward/Aurora
@ThomasWard ArtOfCode/EC2
 
@TylerH Certainly not! You should learn some German swearwords ...
 
@PraveenKumar VLQ may be appropriate, yes. Real culprit is the question probably.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ :P
 
4:08 PM
@Olaf I have, and they're fun, but not quite as emphatic as a good f-bomb
German is fun because they throw together like sixteen words to make a new one
 
@Olaf Hergottsakramentzipfescheissdreck ?
 
@TylerH I assume you are not a native german speaker?
@πάνταῥεῖ For example :-)
 
@Olaf definitely not
Backpfeifengesicht is fun
 
Zipfiklatscher!
 
gotterdamerung
 
4:09 PM
@TylerH That's actually an offence, not a swearword.
 
yes I'm just talking about fun words
not offensive ones
 
@TylerH Neither is that. It's a mythological concept. Not even a German, but a scandinavian (Ragnaröck)
 
Try saying Unabhaengigkeitserklaerungen 3 times fast
@Olaf yes it is downfall of the gods (twilight technically)
like I said, I'm not talking about swear words, just ones that are fun to say
 
@TylerH No chance for a non native speaker, sorry. Zipfeklatscher is absolutely appropriate here.
@Olaf Hast ein' norddeutsch, friesisches Äquivalent an der Hand?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Ich bin kein Friese streng genommen. Mir fällt da jetzt auch kein besondere Fluch ein. Bin beim Fluchen nicht grad kreativ :-)
 
4:22 PM
@TylerH Say Independence Declaration 3 times fast. Not really a challenge for a trained tong :P
@Olaf Gibt's da nix wie z.B. Pfützenfischer oder so?
 
Have a nice weekend y'all \o
 
Dünnbrettbohrer?
bye @kayess
 
@Olaf Ja, das ist die richtige Richtung :)
 
Kosakenzipfel?
 
Oops, I meant tounge of course.
@Olaf Sehr speziell. Benötigt kulturelle Bildung hinsichtlich Medien Kentniss. Aber Ja!
 
4:28 PM
Vico von Bülow ist doch Grundwissen, oder?
 
Guys lets try to keep in english. We don't need people flagging messages.
 
It's a conspiracy.
 
@Olaf Für den Deutschunterricht auf alle Fälle! Genauso wie Ernst Jandl.
@NathanOliver @Tyler asked aout it :P
Fr Au
Fr Fr Au Au
Fr Fr Fr Au Au Au
 
@NathanOliver: Well, we can stop it, but german fun-words without German words is a bit ... problematic.
 
4:31 PM
Yeah. To much non english is a problem though. Feel free to spin up a room and share there.
 
@NathanOliver Don't refrain learning dialects, and foreign humor. You'll expand your horizons probably.
 
@NathanOliver That would tkae the fun way of people wondering what we are talking about :-P. But fine, we're done anyway, I think all necessary has been said :-)
 
@Olaf Fr Au
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Ho lle?
 
@Olaf Schneit no ned :P
 
4:39 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ hey now, no I didn't! I just said English was the best!
 
@TylerH "English was the best!" That's wrong. The best language is if you can express yourself totally with it. I can't do that in english, even if I can get pretty close.
 
Pfft, obviously jQuery is the best language. </sarcasm>
 
My best language is white space. Just look at how well I can express myself:
 
I'm tending to malbolge, need to find a reliable compiler though.
 
4:53 PM
@TylerH If you only know McDonald's hamburgers, you also think they are the best!
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@AlexanderO'Mara You cannot do low-level stuff with it. Try writing an interrupt handler on a machine with 1KiB(!) Flash and 64 Bytes (!) RAM.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ No, it's not wrong; it's a preferential statement
@Olaf I know a fair amount about a lot of languages. English is still the best :-) And also simultaneously the worst in some ways
 
@SmokeDetector question's horrible
 
closed now
aand Undone(TM)
 
@TylerH You're living in a very small blue lagoon. That was stated earlier.
 
english yucckkkk
 
5:07 PM
... oh. I thought you meant reopen when you said "undone"
 
the best language english is rofl
 
Maybe the only allowed language worldwide would be Hebrew
 
@ColdFire I'll bet Hindi is the most concise choice :D
 
@JanDvorak Esperanto.
 
Lojban
 
5:08 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ nope i will say sanskrit is far better language
 
@JanDvorak But, but we'll need to learn reading from right to left :/
 
@JanDvorak xkcd.com/191 .
 
@ColdFire Isn't sanskrit said to be the mother of all the indogermanian languages?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ yes it is
 
@ColdFire And why the pope wears swastikas at their ornate ;) ...
 
5:13 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ eh where did you get this from
 
Well, nobody knew a crazed German would start using swastikas everywhere and ruining it for everyone
 
he also ruined the mustache
 
true
 
@JanDvorak They even did use it wrong, choosing the reverse direction :P
 
Can I ask if something is 'fluff' in an edit here or is there somewhere else that's better?
 
5:15 PM
@Henders Sure, shoot
 
You can ask here
 
This is fluff, right: "I tried many similar solutions I found but they doesn't seem to help me. I don't know if you need something else to help me out but just ask for any other thing."
 
@Undo Hmm, Charlie Chaplin is still lovable. I don't think he really ruined it, you just need to have the courage.
 
@Henders Yeah.
 
@Tunaki thank you :)
 
5:16 PM
@Henders I'd say so. "I tried many similar solutions" doesn't give us anything useful at all.
 
@ColdFire Common knowledge ...
@JanDvorak And it was an austrian to be precise please!
 
@NobodyNada yeah exactly. I appreciate the sentiment of 'ask if i've missed anything' but that seems obvious anyway..
 
But he lived in Germany
Sorry, I keep forgetting that
 
@JanDvorak Well, he screwed everything up, yes.
 
He didn't screw up plaid shorts, they just fell out of fashion
 
5:21 PM
I can't tell if austrians are the more likely fascist screwers, they've chosen their president very wisely recently.
 
I didn't notice there was a talk about Austrian elections. Maybe it was overshadowed by those in USA.
 
@JanDvorak Some people in the world are still sane. That's the good news :P
 
Woot. Today is my 2 years on SO
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@πάνταῥεῖ actually it wasn't, and I'm not, but carry on :-)
 
@NathanOliver Deserves a one box :)
 
@NathanOliver Congrats
 
@NathanOliver congrats
 
Hi Guys
Can I ask a question related to C# in this room?
 
5:45 PM
@Dodi82 Is it about moderating the C# tag?
 
Otherwise, no
 
Yes, as I am having a bit of trouble with my code
O.O"
:-/
:-(
 
@Dodi82 You can ask in a C# chat room
 
Isn't there an actual C# room?
 
Empty, spacey and there was no body there
 
5:48 PM
Thanks guys
 
Can I get a downvote here so we can delete it? It's a millionth duplicate and a generally terrible question.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis Please don't ask for up or down votes.
 
Please or don't
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis The later probably, that would make us a voting ring.
 
We can either delete it now or delete it in 2 days. Either way we're moderating as a group.
 
5:54 PM
hmm
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis The latter. I would say the most important rule in here is not to ask for up/down votes. I've seen some other rules slide, but not that one
 
The rule is DON'T. We do not request up or down votes ever.
 
We supposed to k or f misleading links in Smokey? Or defer to if it is spam or not?
 
Yeah, just read that
in FAQ
 
5:57 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara To me it needs to be spam or abusive on k, I have not heard any other rulez...
it's just a filter as any other...
 
Oh no, I hit the rep cap on Retrocomputing...
 
Is this room an appropriate place to ask for reopen votes?
 
waffle
 
@NobodyNada @JAL would approve
 
JAL
5:59 PM
@NobodyNada That's awesome, congrats! I still haven't done that yet
@Machavity: @NobodyNada has a great NES Q&A pair about screen scrolling
 
@JAL thanks; it was my split-scroll post
 
@JAL cool
 
@RamenChef but if this on stackoverflow.com/questions/38948090/…, you need a strong case... it was closed by user of this room
 
@JAL thanks!
 
@RamenChef if that question consider to ping Tunaki, he will explain his reasoning
@NobodyNada Congrats, seems like lots of fun over there...
 
6:08 PM
@PetterFriberg you guessed it. And yes, I noticed that. My case is that it isn't explicitly asking for an opinion, rather the benefits to a practice, and such questions shouldn't be closed. I had a citation for that, but I'm too lazy to find it agian.
 
@RamenChef I'm pinging @Tunaki he is a great guy he will explain and if possibile help you out.
 
You sure, @πάντα?
 
That is not spam ok vlq, but not spam, he is trying to format and edit his post
 
@NobodyNada Nope
 
I don't think it's spam; it points to a plugin that solves the problem.
 
@PetterFriberg User is not blacklisted (7273976 on stackoverflow.com).
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Joke? If not you should not report unless you are certain.
 
@RamenChef Why something is common practice is not really on-topic for Stack Overflow either, unless it's common because it is mandated by an API
if something is common because 'that's the way it is' or because programmers consider it 'best practice', that's still, essentially, opinion-based
 
@NathanOliver I'll keep more attention next time.
 
6:14 PM
not necessarily your opinion that it's best practice, but an opinion of a large crowd
 
@RamenChef Since I voted as well, I'll weigh in. I don't know Java, but I do know that the question is a semantic one. The problem with questions like these isn't that they aren't good, it's that everyone has an opinion. So everyone tries to weigh in
 
the answer to "why do they do it this way?" is basically "because they wanted to"
 
Hey @RamenChef. Yes, I think it's opinion-based because it's asking why things in the API are done in such a way, and the reality is that in the cast majority of those cases, the only person that could factually answer are the designers.
And asking SO isn't asking the designers. The answers you got show this: they are best guesses, and I'd argue that the top answer is plain wrong IMO (but again, my opinion)
 
@Tunaki your opinion stinks! Just like me! ...wait...
 
Another strike against Opinion questions is they tend to gather bad answers over time. You might not see it, but you've already got one deleted. Leave it open another year and you might have 2 or 3
 
6:21 PM
It's a shame because I'd agree with you that those questions are very interesting (knowing why things are like that)... See also Is a question that can only be answered correctly by a small group of people a bad question? On SO, everyone is able to answer, and in the end, you only get guesses, and none of that is really helpful.
 
@Tunaki still waiting for the meta where people where discussing around the table... hmm I can't remember the meta..
 
hmm I don't have it in mind
 
it's answer with people design the api discussing.... so in the end it's POB...
 
owo
 
maybe on stackexchange meta...
 
6:30 PM
@Compass o/
 
owo)/
I had nandos for lunch today. =w= so full
 
o/
Whats a nandos?
 
!!!
www.nandosperiperi.com/
its portugeuse grilled chicken company
Casual dining, marinated chicken =w=
 
By opposition to fancy dining, like marinated turnip.
 
@Compass Looks good. Got one about 25 miles away from me.
 
6:35 PM
Shame :(
It's a step up from fast casual food.
Mostly do it when I need that extra pow fo the afternoon.
 
@Compass Why? Do they serve it slowly?
 
They don't serve it as quickly.
Since they have to cook your chicken.
It's not like Chipotle where it's already cooked =w=
like, if your food is literally being assembled in front of you, i would call that fast casual
Maybe Five Guys is fast casual? But they still make your burger to order, and that takes time.
 
somehow, this room always manages to get back to the topic of food ...
 
It's always lunch time somewhere in the world.
 
@Tunaki A lot of the mods are carnivores
 
6:38 PM
Can you imagine if we talked about something else? Like Assembly?
 
@Machavity: Unless there are non-humans, the mods are all omnivores.
 
@Tunaki There are at least three broad meal times and we have people from all over the world. Chances are there is someone in here who is eating while I type this.
 
[Citation needed]
Can't carnivores technically eat plants? They may not like it, but they can still eat them.
 
@Compass Oh, I had ld R0, pasta yesterday. Still thinking what I TST R0 BEQ food today.
 
@QPaysTaxes He only has to worry about the other room owners
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6:40 PM
@NathanOliver I prefer to keep my keyboard clean from food.
 
@Compass Technically, they can eat dirt and plastic and lead. They may not like them (or digest them), but they can still eat them.
 
@NathanOliver Finger food is the primary reason for keyboard failure
 
I'm pretty sure you get sustenance out of the vegetable portion as opposed to plastic =w=
 
@Olaf Oh? I thought it was from beating clueless end users over the head with them.
 
6:42 PM
@Compass They do, but not as a primary source. If I catch one of our cats eating plants it's usually a precursor to them barfing
 
But they still eat them.
 
@NobodyNada Some things only once. For instance guinea pigs will die of meat. The protein is toxic to them
 
@rene is under siege. He could be eaten by a mod as a precursor to barfing!
 
@NathanOliver That was before they started using the internet, being in safe distance.
 
6:55 PM
Day 9 was pretty easy.
 
I got part 1 done. I have to rework the entire approach to do part 2.
 
Not me :p
 
Well we can't all have one liners.
 
Sadly :(
Pushed and done, woot.
 
7:12 PM
woot
 
@Compass WUT?
 
hi
 
We were talking about carnivores.
 
Like a casual conversation I guess.
 
7:46 PM
^ Target -- Java toString() SomeType@f2380abd
 
Aaah I thought I was hammering, but no :(
 
Guys - Hammering and Delete Votes undertaken...
Not answering anymore questions.
So, bring them in. Let's clean up the site... :P
 
Thanks.
 
8:01 PM
:P
 
@PetterFriberg Get me the dupes report.
 
19 more votes remaining.
 
@PraveenKumar ok... in what tag do you like'em
 
@PraveenKumar You need to to SO botics and run queen.
 
8:03 PM
@NathanOliver Queen is stalking... So no. I'll take Petter for now. :D
@PetterFriberg JS.
@NathanOliver Or is it just one time running report tool or something? If so, I am interested.
 
@PraveenKumar All right, dear, working on it...
 
@PraveenKumar Yeah you can run reports out of queen.
No need to be stalked.
 
:) :)
 
Oh wow... Nice.
 
8:05 PM
You can also filter the CVQ with duplicates and a tag.
 
@PraveenKumar check the batch, when done tell me I send the command and your progress is stored...
 
Just checking...
Slow connection... That's one more reason for this decision... :D
 
clean, clean clean... force clean
@PraveenKumar click open all... in new window and then just browse through all
actually I think I will do some java
 
@PetterFriberg That's the worst thing I did.
@PetterFriberg I don't wanna speak swear words here. So please keep me away from that $h!7...
:D :D :D
 
:D :) :|
 
8:08 PM
yesterday, by Jan Dvorak
They actually tried to make a decent garbage collector for Java, but they gave up when it kept deleting the whole runtime.
:-D
 
I have no idea how this question got 9 upvotes. And no one thought that it might have been asked before.
 
@PraveenKumar if you like to liberate cv's quick check this ... reports.socvr.org/111347/1879
 
@Gothdo one word: javascript
 
@Gothdo Same in Java. I close hot questions as obvious dupe regularly...
 
8:12 PM
not sure that question should be tagged or even either
 
Definitely not .
And it has been answered by two users with gold JavaScript tag badge.
 
why is that blacklisted?
 
@Tunaki if you missed it, here: ...
 
I got it, was about to do the same
 
!!/test comp.sys.mac.programmer.help
 
8:15 PM
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
 
In turn, means you ninja'd me, so I'll meet you in the back alley to clear that up
 
I wonder if someone was spamming that at one point.
 
@Tunaki Back Alley?
I am curious... Let's meet Tuna... I've got so much waffles to give you.
What about idlies for me? :D
 
I only have a whip with me.
 
8:16 PM
@Tunaki I am not coming to meet you. Go! :(
 
@PraveenKumar another 10 javascript that needs some care reports.socvr.org/111347/1880
 
Thanks...
 
you need more... I got tons of it...
 
Thanks, I am done.. All exhausted.
 
@Gothdo Well, what did you expect, eh? Nice dupe find though, perfect match.
 
8:20 PM
Finding that dupe target took me two minutes. Any of the users who answered this question could find it as well.
 
Oh I know.
 
@Gothdo but that way they would not get rep
 
8:31 PM
@FOX9000 Rolled back. That edit doesn't make sense. "How can jquery plugins be used"—which jQuery plugins?
 
dang it, dang it, dang it. I edit the C++ tag out of a Q, then go "oh wait, it is a dupe" and now I can no longer hammer :(
 
@TylerH Why did you edit it?
 
@Gothdo to remove fluff and fix grammatical errors in case it does not get deleted
and only because it had just been edited so I was not worried about necromancing a dead topic (since it had literally just been necromanced)
 
@NathanOliver seems like it was fixed anyway
 
8:34 PM
@NathanOliver if you put it back, I think you could
 
@NathanOliver you gotta close then edit my man!
@Tunaki mmm not so sure. You can't normally mjolnir questions for a tag that you personally add in
 
@Tunaki Sounds like we need to test that.
 
So I don't think it would count "re-adding in" as a rollback
though maybe if you just roll it back instead of editing it back in...
 
@PraveenKumar Do you have any close votes left?
 
@Gothdo Yup very few.
 
8:39 PM
I'm no Mjolnir but I also have some left
 
Wait your not a hammer? Jeez now I am going to have to change my mental image of you.
 
@NathanOliver nice comment
 
@PraveenKumar I have three duplicate questions that weren't tagged with : 1, 2, 3
 
i wonder whether self will get the comment
 
8:41 PM
@ColdFire :D
 
I hope they do.
 
Thanks.
 
@Gothdo Hammered them all.
 
@NathanOliver indeed
I am a nail
I get hammered often
 
:)
I must be a nail too then
 
8:42 PM
:)
 
Nails of a feather get hammered together
 
Woot
 
Moderators, ho! I flagged a question for moderator attention.
(Maybe that will work and call one of them down from upon high...)
 
catches a puppy sneaking
 
8:45 PM
nooo I was waiting for him!
 
@ColdFire dies
RIP
 
Worth a try lion-O
 
and an immortal anime fan
 
@ColdFire dies inside an* immortal
 
I wonder what caused that to be invalidated.
 
8:48 PM
must be some mischievious puppy
 
@NathanOliver m2, not edit and not deleted/undeleted... but helpful
 
@PetterFriberg That was probably marked helpful by a mod, without further action
The robo-reviewer there should be flagged....
 
Yeah, my money is on a mod dismissing it as helpful and leaving the thing as is
 
with It is still available... link only.... hmm
 
8:56 PM
I was about to facedesk when this question came up in the reopen queue stackoverflow.com/questions/40779308/…
but I thought to myself (there's just no way) and sure enough it was an audit
 
@TylerH What, you don't think that is a good question? What do you have, standards?
 
That's an incredibly valuable question.
To show things of what not to ask.
 
Now imagine it would be a positive audit. Voting ring caught.
 
9:14 PM
@Tunaki We share another winner
 
[java] [c++] ==> very high rate of great questions, eh
 
Yep.
Almost always guaranteed to be an awesome question.
afk
 
9:32 PM
hi
 
I'm buying some pizzas today.
 
@Tunaki Done
 
I'm thinking Moonstruck, Maverick, and Elvis.
 
@honk hey
 
owo)/
 
9:46 PM
Is this a typo?
 
unlikely to help future visitors, I'd vote to close it yes....
 
I've seen too many questions mixing up input and print arguments in python ^^^
 
ok, need to leave o/
 
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