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12:05 AM
night
 
Bye. o/
 
12:21 AM
@Gothdo FYI this is close to be reopened stackoverflow.com/q/40823905/1743880 opinions?
Over and out
 
@Tunaki Someone in the comments seem to have an answer for that Q
 
Yeah I have no idea myself, but since I noticed Gothdo wasn't pinged, I think he might like to know about it to explain or reopen himself
I personally hate it when things I hammered get reopened behind my back
5
 
12:36 AM
@BaummitAugen I'm voting to close as too-broad instead
 
@SamuelLiew unclear would also be fine with me. This is all sorts of wrong.
 
Can I throw in POB just for the lulz?
 
I've never seen a question closed with five different reasons :D
 
@Tunaki I don't think it should be reopened. It's not only a duplicate; it also lacks MCVE, because it doesn't include the .babelrc file, Webpack configuration or the list of installed packages.
 
@JanDvorak Would not do much harm in this case either. :)
 
12:42 AM
Also, the sentence "Since I see the $(() => {}); part working, I assume that JavaScript 6 works on my machine." makes me feel that we should have the "lacks minimal understanding" close reason back.
 
But then the closing mechanism would have been too ef... I mean, people would abuse it
 
12:53 AM
why not type the custom reason "it doesn't demonstrate a minimal understanding of the problem being solved"?
 
I'm off to bed.
Bye all!
 
@BaummitAugen Goodnight
 
Woah when did Stack Snippets get Babel/ES2015 support? When did they add React?
 
I guess they're powered by your browser
 
Huh
Are there any potential downfalls to having a user be able to vote on answers of their own question regardless of rep?
 
1:04 AM
@AndrewLi Sock puppetry maybe? Or trolling askers who just downvote everything? Or perhaps using that vote to make whatever answer score 0 so they can self-delete?
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I'm not the insightful type. You're right, especially on the last point
 
Imagine a new user upvotes own answer. Bam! "Post more links, answer protected questions" is granted instantly. Now multiply that with the type of spam we see on a daily basis.
Although I must say the bots are already doing a good job ;)
 
Rob
I don't think they mean upvoting their own answer, but on answers on their question
 
@Rob Ohh. Well then privileges have to be earned for the simple reason that they have to be around long enough to know how the site works.
 
user6820627
1:41 AM
hello socvr who cleared that queue?
 
user6820627
 
user6820627
Nov 22 at 20:15, by Closey
Congratulations @Bhargav! I can't wait to see what the close vote queue looks like empty.
 
user4639281
@LearnHowToBeTransparent That's the low quality posts queue, not the close vote queue
 
user6820627
@TinyGiant i know but who clear that?
 
user4639281
Many reviewers
 
user6820627
1:43 AM
does it happen often?
 
user4639281
No, rarely. It has been quite a while since the last time I saw it empty.
 
2:36 AM
!!/alive
 
@dorukayhan ... did I miss something?
 
user1593881
2:54 AM
Slightly off topic. Has anyone else experienced a long SO page loading with attempts to connect to b.scorecardresearch.com ?
 
user6820627
3:13 AM
@RawN console screenshot pls
 
user6820627
@HovercraftFullOfEels you should ping me here :( the OP has enough rep
 
user6820627
active time is always 13:00 UTC in my experience
 
@LearnHowToBeTransparent: ah, hello. Did not know you were in here.
And sorry, you're right. He only needs 20 rep points to enter a room.
 
user6820627
@HovercraftFullOfEels i am always here if you ping here i'll always get a notification
 
@LearnHowToBeTransparent: gotcha. Thanks.
 
user1593881
3:49 AM
@LearnHowToBeTransparent Here is the link in meta I posted.
 
user3956566
I'm not convinced this question is off topic
 
user3956566
@RawN why did you delete it?
 
user3956566
4:07 AM
@TinyGiant I don't understand why two of the questions you've answered recently have 4 close votes on them. I think they're ok.
 
user4639281
The only time I have to find questions to answer is when reviewing close votes.
 
user3956566
ah
 
user3956566
I still don't think they should be closed
 
user4639281
I usually edit and answer questions I feel were close voted incorrectly.
 
user3956566
good idea
 
user4639281
4:08 AM
Some times I watch for the closure, sometimes I don't
 
4:21 AM
Hi all
 
user3956566
hi
 
o/
A question just went from +4/-0 to +1/-2 in <1 minute after dupe closure
 
user4639281
Tim must have lost his keys again
 
@TinyGiant he lost his whole keychain.
 
user4639281
oh no, his passwords!
 
4:31 AM
D=
 
4:50 AM
May a Java peep see which dupe is the best fit on that ^
 
 
1 hour later…
user4639281
5:55 AM
@TigerhawkT3 I voted no repro
 
6:41 AM
I don't think the OP has read a single word of anyone's criticisms.
 
user4639281
6:56 AM
@TigerhawkT3 You're supposed to read anyone's criticisms?
 
@TinyGiant comment taken as criticism and discarded
 
@FOX9000 spam!
Someone please move my last CV to sanitarium. Clipboard mixup
 
user4639281
7:13 AM
@AndrewLi → 1 message moved to SOCVR Sanitarium
 
Good morning
 
user4639281
@Magisch Morning good!
 
;)
 
7:30 AM
morning o/
 
Good Morning all
 
Moin moin.
 
7:54 AM
o/
 
user4639281
@Cerbrus Of course that's too broad, he asked for simple JavaScript. :P
 
"How to crash your browser with simple JS?"
while(true)
^ simple :D
 
Morning fellaz \o
 
Morning!
Barely.
 
8:03 AM
Barely? It's 9:03 :p
 
No, it's 0:04.
The only correct time zone is my own. =D
 
@Cerbrus It amazes me that browsers don't automatically recognize and optimize that out already.
 
@Magisch It's valid JS.
while(true){ doStuff; break if condition; }
It's an antipattern, but it's valid :P
 
@FOX9000 Looks like a good edit, but I don't know Java so I can't really tell.
 
It's a normal thing in Python, which doesn't have a do..while.
 
user4639281
8:12 AM
@Cerbrus for(;!0;);
 
user4639281
@Cerbrus That isn't localized to JS either.
 
@TinyGiant Short, yes. Simple? Not as much
You'd have a harder time explaining that to a non-programmer than while(true)
 
user4639281
@Cerbrus Y u haz tuh haz da sympul?
 
@Cerbrus It's also a pretty poor idea to use that if do while exists
At least imo
 
user4639281
OOOOO I just found an authoritative reference stating that you shouldn't answer duplicates! \o/
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
> Don't answer questions that have already been answered elsewhere. Yeah, you might earn a couple of points of reputation, but, because you are duplicating content, you are actually making the internet worse. Why? Because that answer might be true today, but as technology changes, it might not be true tomorrow.
 
@Magisch Never said it's a good idea :P
@TinyGiant THANK YOU
F yea!
 
user4639281
inorite? I've been looking for that for a long time
 
user4639281
(Cerbrus goes and updates all of his meta questions and answers about not answering dupes)
 
I have something to link now when a high rep user answers an obvious dupe
 
user4639281
8:25 AM
It also has a section about improper dupe closure
 
user4639281
> But it's not OK to close it as a duplicate of a twenty-seven page guide to netmasks. That's the moral equivalent of saying "RTFM."
 
Hiya
 
user4639281
Hiya
 
Plop!
 
user4639281
Plop!
 
user4639281
8:28 AM
It also seems to suggests that canonical posts should be community wiki
 
@Yam Mh yep, seems fine now.
@Yam No
 
@Yam Actually somewhat decent
 
user4639281
8:46 AM
> Trademark capitalization; acronym capitalization; grammar; noise reduction; irrelevant tag; layout; formatting
 
9:10 AM
That answer on the second one though :D
 
user4639281
@gnat done
 
@TinyGiant lol that bounty message. Only wafflez are missing.
 
Hi. You duped stackoverflow.com/questions/40834104/… but I believe the OP was asking about searching the contents of a div rather than looping through a collection of divs. I agree it is close but the answer to the OP's question was not clear in the one you linked to as the dup. Please un-dup.
 
@Gothdo ^^^^
 
Can you imagine that this survived 22 days on Stack Overflow stackoverflow.com/questions/40439736/…
 
9:35 AM
huh
 
wut how?!
 
@BhargavRao But how?
 
Yep, I'm asking the same question.
 
no bots caught it and since it have a only 1 strange tag... I guess no one saw it
 
@VanquishedWombat The hammerer was notified, they should react soon enough.
@BhargavRao can't see =(
 
9:37 AM
Thanks.
 
> **How do I deal with a girl when she is showing attitude?**
> If she looks at you or love you but she is showing you attitude. Then, Just Ignore her. Forgot her. Find someone new who will understand your as well as her own feelings.
 
@BhargavRao Wait. Does [relationship] have any meaning outside the context of data models?
 
@Kyll That's the full text -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------^
 
o_o
 
@Glorfindel Nope, None that I know of.
 
user4639281
9:46 AM
@Rizier123 :P
 
user4639281
@BhargavRao sound advice
 
user4639281
I love it when questions I've answered sit with 4 close votes for extended periods of time.
 
Like.... 5 minutes?
That has to be close to an eternity
 
user4639281
no, more like days
 
user4639281
@Cerbrus 20k
 
9:56 AM
I know
 
user4639281
please include that so <20k users don't waste their time
 
But I'm sure there are some in here that have 20k (or a diamond) that don't mind getting rid of it.
 
user4639281
That is totally fine, but I don't need to click it.
 
Shouldn't <20k users just ignore delete requests?
 
user4639281
No, I can delete vote questions after they've been closed for 2 days
 
9:58 AM
Oh, yea, forgot about that
 
@Cerbrus I won't vote on that, I have no idea and can't properly decide.
 
user4639281
yeah, thart
 
The OP is looking for dependency injection without putting anything on the global scope.
That's literally impossible
 
@Cerbrus diamonds won't handle the normal cases :D
 
And it's a mess of revenge downvotes
 
9:59 AM
They are there only for "extreme circumstances" :P
 
@BhargavRao But what's normal, these days? *Shakes fist in air*
 
IKR, Even "normal human" deleted his account.
 
user4639281
@Tunaki I would delete vote it if I could, for reference
 
@Cerbrus done
 
@BhargavRao
Morning firstly:) There is a post that may or may not be spam here: stackoverflow.com/questions/37021900/…
We got a confirmed spam advertising the same website on GraphicDesign.SE a few minutes ago
 
10:08 AM
@Magisch Very spammy, but they have other posts
Mod flag
 
Checking in 3 mins.
 
@EdChum appreciated
 
@Magisch Well it was nuked....
 
lol spam flags OP
 
Hmmz
 
10:11 AM
I was trying to leave a comment and it just went poof
 
I'll wait on @BhargavRao 's judgement on that and may blacklist the website
 
I was still checking BTW.
 
I didn't flag
Thats on GraphicDesign.SE so only MS viewing
 
@Magisch Yep, I'll ask for more "seasoned advice". There are other posts with the same URL that was delved normally and not as spam.
 
@BhargavRao really? I haven't found any searching
 
user4639281
10:12 AM
Excessive self promotion
 
stackexchange.com/search?q=banner-guru shows only varying appearances of that one other post
 
user4639281
@Magisch you wouldn't find them if they were deleted
 
@Magisch that ---------------------------------------^
 
Awwwh
I skipped over that "delved"
 
Err, I just asked in the mod room. I'm also not so sure atm.
:D
 
10:15 AM
I'll wait with blacklisting that until you figured it out
 
Sure, I'll ping ya once I find out.
 
@BhargavRao just curious, can mods comment on deleted posts?
 
Yep
Bit afk.
 
user4639281
You are also notified if you are pinged in a comment posted by a moderator on a deleted post. BoltClock tried for science with me one day
 
@TinyGiant That's interesting. Thanks for offering that tidbit :P
 
user4639281
10:27 AM
np
 
@TinyGiant Really? I remember a mod posting a comment to me, waiting 5 minutes or so, and then deleting the answer. I figured it was so that I could see it.
 
user4639281
BoltClock didn't know whether it would work or not when they attempted it. That mod may not have known this either.
 
Interesting.
 
Can moderators fix chat accounts that got borked due to an account merge? If so, here is one to fix ....
 
user4639281
IIRC they have to wipe the chat account. Could be wrong. Looking for ref
 
10:35 AM
I don't recall the wiping part
don't try it on my account then ... I'm NOT volunteering
 
Why not?
 
Because monday
 
Makes sense. We can do it tomorrow then if anyone remembers.
 
@rene A mod will quickly edit this into "I'm happy volunteering" :p
 
These kind of things that can go wrong are best left for friday, just before the happy hour starts
@Rizier123 A mod will be quickly un-modded when they do that ....
 
user4639281
 
@TinyGiant I found it it was BoltClock :D
 
user4639281
@Tunaki and that was after the science too...
 
user4639281
@Tunaki That was three minutes ago, what took you so long to find it?
 
I'm at page 10 of my chat search!!
 
user4639281
@rene So a mod would just have to click a merge button apparently
 
10:44 AM
:(
 
@TinyGiant is that a mod feature? I thought the team needed to do that?
 
user4639281
Oh, maybe, I thought I remembered it being done by a mod before
 
user4639281
No wait, mods can't merge accounts, can they?
 
user4639281
Off to bed for me
 
11:24 AM
Hmm, This is sad. 44 NAAs since I left... -_-
 
11:46 AM
@BhargavRao Did anything ever come from that banner-guru.com thing?
 
@Magisch They agreed that it was a spammish post. Better blacklist it. :)
 
@BhargavRao I actually also used their live chat feature and told them to cut it
At least the person manning the chat was responsive
 
@Magisch I visited that place ^
Intellipaat, Thanks to that, I get a phone call every week :D
 
Well
I tend to try that with companies small enough to be responsive to this kind of advice
it has worked in the past
 
Yep, True. Few people don't know that they are spamming.
In those cases, chatting with them helps.
 
12:20 PM
When a blind leads a blind, the former gets two rep
 
Plop againz
Gosh, SO disconnected me today, ending my hundreds-day-long session
 
Sounds like a bug report thing
 
@Kyll They dared to disconnect The Plopper! How rude
 
@Kyll Guess who nuked the wrong account? :P
 
Morning
 
12:33 PM
Morning
 
BTW, Congrats BR
 
Thanks :)
Next time perhaps you and tuna'll be in. :)
 
If it wasn't for the interviewing I would have.
 
Yep, It was quite easy this time
 
That ^, Sir, is a bold statement ....
 
12:39 PM
@rene Don't ever call an Indian a sir. They will think it's normal ;-)
 
Point taken, thanks for the culture lesson ;)
 
@rene :D ... If Nathan was in, I'd have been out, so it's quite easy to predict
 
@BhargavRao meeh to me it seems that you arrived second...
 
Yep.
 
12:48 PM
Done
 
What do you mean "Done"?
 
Gone.
 
The naa removed before i flag him
 
@Sami well, there was a question mark behind the NAA which means that Tunaki asked for our opinion on this. Not to jump on it and flag it.
 
Those darn mods have become fast
 
12:52 PM
They become annoying now and then, yes
 
@rene & that mean?
don't flag him?
 
@Sami yes, that does it mean.
 
Ok
so you can just ping me & say : Sami that's not your business
 
Yeah I think it could be read as an answer
"i have in urdu list item in list view how we find it in list item my code is" ---> "I have the same probem and this is the code I use to fix it"
It's a stretch
 
I'm not a reviewer , so i must leave this room
 
12:57 PM
Hi all
 
So much of a stretch it could kill your circulation
 
:D
@Sami Not necessarily, you can stay and watch
 
Hi o/
 
This is not a TV show man to watch it
 
That'd be so cool to make a TV show out of this room.
 
1:00 PM
Will it be a sitcom?
Or TV-drama?
 
whispers or an anime
 
More like an action-thriller
 
Also , im the stupid arabian man who keep asking for help , and try to help , & who banned for nothing for 1 month & can't create a chat room , & no help for learn.
Bye.
 
bye
 
@Sami It might help if you used words instead of symbols
 
1:05 PM
What you mean?
 
You know that & = and
so you can understand it
 
I can also climb ten flights of stairs every day, and yet I live on the ground floor
 
@Sami This has nothing to do with flagging a post. I was asking for opinions on whether something was an answer or not, so I was surprised to see "Done", hence the question.
 
I can't flag without read it man
 
1:08 PM
Aaaaah so you didn't flag
 
yes
 
I think we assumed that "Done" meant "Flagged", when it meant "Already deleted, don't bother"
 
first i must read it then flag it or not
 
That is true yes.
 
if is naa i'll flag
 
1:11 PM
Just another misunderstanding then :)
 
im not that stupid to flag without read the A
 
confusing room
 
It's ok bro @Tunaki
^^
 
Don't call us bros
 
I ping tunaki
 
1:14 PM
@JanDvorak be nice.
 
then i don't call you 'bro'
 
Sory. But he did tell us to tell him that.
 
& tuna is a bro for me
 
Hmm, not sure what the issue is about.
Moving on
 
1:15 PM
Even you a user or a mod and you say that to me , i'll just ignore you.
go ahead
as tuna say
 
@Sami @Jan Timeout, please. I don't want to read any other messages with unfriendly connotations.
2
 
Yeah , i understand & im not angry from him , anyway bye if you need me you 'll find me in RAD Studio room or SQL. im sorry bye.
 
... and yet the villain is me
 
@JanDvorak You either die a hero...
 
@MadaraUchiha or....
 
1:24 PM
Well, that's a tricky choice.
 
Every either should accompany an or block... - St. Praveen
 
@MadaraUchiha :D
 
@PraveenKumar You're a Saint now?
Wow
 
@MadaraUchiha Bless You! :D
 
1:25 PM
@PraveenKumar No thanks.
 
LoL
I am resigning my post of saint.
 
Good call
 
The holy light interferes with the way of the six paths.
 
I'm a villain
I usually have a evil mustache to twirl too but I misplaced it
 
1:29 PM
@Magisch That's cute
 
some evil mustaches aren't long enough to twirl
 
@MadaraUchiha You don't know my menacing and evil plan
 
@Magisch The plan doesn't matter.
It's the ability to execute it that counts.
 
plop!
 
1:37 PM
o/
afk
 
I'm so tired of seeing hot duplicate questions
 
@Tunaki The torrent of sewage is unabating
 
@Drew another one for your hammer ^^
 
So apparently it exists
 
@Tunaki you have a dupehammer though, you can singlehandedly mitigate the influx of duplicates up until a point
 
1:44 PM
sigh
 
user6820627
hello socvr
 
@LearnHowToBeTransparent o/
 
@dorukayhan I can only do so much when all the answerers have goldies as well
Sadly, I can't monitor the Java tag 24/7, real time
So I practically don't monitor it anymore, just letting hell go loose there.
 
user6820627
@Tunaki you can create bots
 
Needs to be real time. An answer comes within 20 seconds at most.
 
1:46 PM
I also stopped checking the python dupes after becoming a mod.
They're all running free :D
 
user6820627
@Magisch it exists? did you install?
 
@Tunaki Are you feeling the success for rep as sole provider of privileges yet?
Are you feeling it, mr crabs?
@LearnHowToBeTransparent No, lol. I could barely care less who voted what
 
I'm feeling it good yeah. Real good.
And I get downvoted right after closing. Thanks o/
I know I hurt someone feelings at least
 
@Magisch everyone can see it but the devs
 
@JanDvorak Mhm
Institutional mills grind slowly, so even if they recognized the problem and set course on a solution tomorrow we'd still wait 1-2 years for anything to actually come of it (and the first 2 parts of that if every will maybe happen in a couple years at the earliest)
 
1:52 PM
Maybe they are aware of the problem then
 
I'm unconvinced
I'm just saying if they were it'd still take years to get anything
 
@Braiam I assume the recommended read link you left in a comment is for others to follow, not because I'm missing something in my post?
 
damn the new review ban changes are coming into force
 
link?
 
See you again in 60 days @Magisch ;)
 
1:58 PM
@JanDvorak Here is the first instance I saw of it coming to fruition. Instead of the three tier ban system, if you get banned again within 30 days of your last ban ending, the new ban will be double the last ban's length, and there is no cap.
@rene I haven't had a review ban since like june
I saw someone moaning on meta about it
 
I feel like they should fix the audit system beforehand
 

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